Really great tutorial, I like that we see the riders in different angles, it really gives a sense of where the rider is with respect to the kite during the various loop progressions. I personally find the advice to "edge hard" against the wind the most unnatural to practice, but with this tutorial I can watch the slow mos and hopefully it will make more sense. Thank you!
I'm learning how to kite loop, and have one more advice. Practice "send jumps" before moving on to kite loops. When you "send jump" you basically initiate a loop in the air but then quickly send it back without completing the loop. This generates a yank similar to a kite loop. As you progress, you can gradually adjust the force of the yank by changing how far you send the kite down. Eventually, you will feel that it is simply easier to complete the loop than to send the kite back. Additionally, "send jumps" will allow you to practice helli loops.
I think too that Send jumps are a good practice, but the difference ist, that in the send jumps the Kite ist sent forward, while in the kiteloop, the kite goes back. Send jump would be the direction of a contra Loop.
Thank you Alex, amazing breakdown of the looping techniques and preparation for them. Time and time again, your lessons are the best! Thank you for doing this!
Honestly these videos couldnt have come at better timing. I just did my first powered loops today. But 9 out of 10 times i just hit the deck on landing. And with the examples, especially on pt. 2 i think i know what i was doing wrong. So next time hopefully powered loop and catch for me!
I'm learning how to kite loop. I have found that looking down rather than at the kite helps a lot in landing correctly. When I look at the kite (which is natural as I want to make sure the kite completes the loop) I often misjudge the height and/or forget to point the board downwind.
That's an excellent question. For the early steps (perhaps 1 and 2) I'd say it can help a lot to watch the kite, to make sure you're ending the loop at the correct moment etc. However, you don't want to keep doing that. Once you're getting more height and faster landings, you want to focus more on your body position, landing etc and at that point if you're staring at the kite it's more likely that you'll get something else wrong. After some training you should start to be able to feel where the kite is in the loop, or tell from your peripheral vision, or from the angle of the lines. I can tell what the kite is doing confidently without looking at it, I perhaps take the odd glance to check that the kite is where I think it is. So I'd say start by watching the kite in the early safe stages, and build up a feeling for the kite's position, so that you don't need to keep watching it.
Hi, the standard line lengths are generally good, 23/24m for the 12 and 22m for the 8 roughly. Slightly longer lines will make the first loops more forgiving as the kite can stay higher, whereas shorter lines (like 10 to 12m) will make the kite circle much lower and nearer high power due to the smaller wind window.
Hi, it depends on your weight, how upwind you get on take off, and what kite it is. For heavier riders (80,90kg), a 12m in 17kn works great for those first low loop attempts shown at 7:23. A lighter rider might have the luxury of using a 9m in light winds though. I'd say it's more about the wind speed than the kite size. Those first low loop attempts really want to be done in 16 to 21kn. That will make them forgiving. Trying in 25 to 30kn will be rough, risky, you won't learn much, you'll just crash hard. What kites do you have and what's your weight? (if you don't mind saying)
No because if you are cruising, the kite will not creep upwind of you. So if you pull a loop from 12 on cruise it will generate more horizontal pull than lift. The only scenario I can think of without jumping is if you cruise significantly downwind so the kite can go upwind from you. You should know that the kite can ofc front stall in those situations
Like @yonishara said you won't realistically be heli-looping on the ground. Only if you outrace your kite while on foil or something but then its just a kite recovery. The physics for a heli-loop works while airborne because while you are falling towards the ground your apparent wind shifts your wind window above you. It is no longer in front of you. This means the lift zone is now above your head and even slightly upwind of you.
Really great tutorial, I like that we see the riders in different angles, it really gives a sense of where the rider is with respect to the kite during the various loop progressions. I personally find the advice to "edge hard" against the wind the most unnatural to practice, but with this tutorial I can watch the slow mos and hopefully it will make more sense. Thank you!
Thank you! You have the best tutorials on youtube, by far.
I'm learning how to kite loop, and have one more advice. Practice "send jumps" before moving on to kite loops. When you "send jump" you basically initiate a loop in the air but then quickly send it back without completing the loop. This generates a yank similar to a kite loop. As you progress, you can gradually adjust the force of the yank by changing how far you send the kite down. Eventually, you will feel that it is simply easier to complete the loop than to send the kite back.
Additionally, "send jumps" will allow you to practice helli loops.
I think too that Send jumps are a good practice, but the difference ist, that in the send jumps the Kite ist sent forward, while in the kiteloop, the kite goes back. Send jump would be the direction of a contra Loop.
Thank you for this long-awaiting tutorial
Cheers, and sorry it took me so long to create :-)
A big thanks to Ross and Brett for helping with this video.
@ross_dillon_player
@brett.vs.world
Thanks guys
Thank you Alex, amazing breakdown of the looping techniques and preparation for them. Time and time again, your lessons are the best! Thank you for doing this!
@@lightwillprevai7 thanks for saying so, it's much appreciated
Il migliore insegnante di kite!
Amazing tutorial! Something i wish i had watched before starting the loop journey 🙏
Thanks for your kind words, cheers
Thank you;-) Great job. Your training is well done. step by step.
great video so detailed ..best quidance than any other!!! thanx!!!!!!!!
Great video, funny that’s exactly what i am working on this week ! So helpful, thank you
Really good tutorial to learn the Kiteloop safe😃👍
Thanks so much
Very nice !! Shared!
Thanks very much
Very nice tutorial. Thanks!
Episode 2 (how to do a low-height loop and catch) is out now: ruclips.net/video/kPaH5CVsCsY/видео.html
Killing it , as always ... great job
Cheers
Great great great! Safety first ❤
Very great breakdown of trick
Honestly these videos couldnt have come at better timing. I just did my first powered loops today. But 9 out of 10 times i just hit the deck on landing. And with the examples, especially on pt. 2 i think i know what i was doing wrong. So next time hopefully powered loop and catch for me!
Thanks!! very very helpful.
@@johnravensbergen3324 Cheers John, you're welcome
Thank you for this!!
Cheers, you're welcome
Great vid, thanks 😊
You’re welcome 😊
nice video. thx
Great vid again! Where is that beautifull location?
Perfect timing with this vid. Do you always look at the kite?
I'm learning how to kite loop. I have found that looking down rather than at the kite helps a lot in landing correctly. When I look at the kite (which is natural as I want to make sure the kite completes the loop) I often misjudge the height and/or forget to point the board downwind.
That's an excellent question. For the early steps (perhaps 1 and 2) I'd say it can help a lot to watch the kite, to make sure you're ending the loop at the correct moment etc. However, you don't want to keep doing that. Once you're getting more height and faster landings, you want to focus more on your body position, landing etc and at that point if you're staring at the kite it's more likely that you'll get something else wrong. After some training you should start to be able to feel where the kite is in the loop, or tell from your peripheral vision, or from the angle of the lines. I can tell what the kite is doing confidently without looking at it, I perhaps take the odd glance to check that the kite is where I think it is. So I'd say start by watching the kite in the early safe stages, and build up a feeling for the kite's position, so that you don't need to keep watching it.
Thank you!!
What is the best sling length for training on 8m and 12m kites?
Thn
Hi, the standard line lengths are generally good, 23/24m for the 12 and 22m for the 8 roughly. Slightly longer lines will make the first loops more forgiving as the kite can stay higher, whereas shorter lines (like 10 to 12m) will make the kite circle much lower and nearer high power due to the smaller wind window.
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What max kitesize would you recommend for the first kite loop attempts?
Hi, it depends on your weight, how upwind you get on take off, and what kite it is. For heavier riders (80,90kg), a 12m in 17kn works great for those first low loop attempts shown at 7:23. A lighter rider might have the luxury of using a 9m in light winds though. I'd say it's more about the wind speed than the kite size. Those first low loop attempts really want to be done in 16 to 21kn. That will make them forgiving. Trying in 25 to 30kn will be rough, risky, you won't learn much, you'll just crash hard. What kites do you have and what's your weight? (if you don't mind saying)
So a heli loop would generate lift regardless?
Even when you are just cruising?
No because if you are cruising, the kite will not creep upwind of you. So if you pull a loop from 12 on cruise it will generate more horizontal pull than lift.
The only scenario I can think of without jumping is if you cruise significantly downwind so the kite can go upwind from you.
You should know that the kite can ofc front stall in those situations
@@yonishara ok, now I seem to understand a bit more about kiting in general, thanks!
Like @yonishara said you won't realistically be heli-looping on the ground. Only if you outrace your kite while on foil or something but then its just a kite recovery. The physics for a heli-loop works while airborne because while you are falling towards the ground your apparent wind shifts your wind window above you. It is no longer in front of you. This means the lift zone is now above your head and even slightly upwind of you.
@@mieblock4856 ♥ thanks, you made it very visible for me.
I’m unclear how to tuck in your heels? Is it feet towards your shins?
Hi Daan. Have you had a look at episode 2? There's a whole section on that exact question:
ruclips.net/video/kPaH5CVsCsY/видео.htmlsi=yFd_Dz6wpfdAhxaG
Send it or end it!
Did he say, "This might seem easy?"" WTF kkkk