If you want to know more about Aly's last whishes note, its been added in the game by the devs because it was a ''last whishes'' of a woman in Shadowheart Voice actor stream who sadly died since.
I was trying to figure out exactly who Aly was for a week. Every google search was vague and focused on the mind flayerhunter tribute. I know there’s a stream she did but it’s a long video and isn’t labeled
@@blacklite911 idk if links are blocked or not. But if you want more context, in the Jen and Aliona youtube video called ''This one is dedicated to the memory of Aly'' they talked about it at 1:47:05
@@DeadGraphiKs that’s the stream I’m talking about but I didn’t wanna sit through the whole thing because it’s long, and she didn’t put time labels on it
It's the little moments like Jaheira's dialogue about her husband, the letters in the graveryard, and the level of details in even the small things that make this game so special to me. Yes the combat's really fun when you get into it (as much as D&D can be, really), the main quest is epic, and all that. But the slower bits with the companions, the fact that every single NPC has some dialogue, and the random lore drops in books put it over the top.
I never played BG1 or 2 so at first i didn't care for Jaheira at all and yet, of all the cast she must be the one who grew on me the most. I can't imagine how amazing it must have been to have known her 20 years ago and get to see her again, older and wiser. I love her. Also, she has a Cassandra Pentaghast vibe. Older woman with an east European accent with whom I don't always agree but I know i can always tell her and she will respect me more for it.
Well frankly jaheira as a class was near useless in AD&D 2nd edition as she was a multiclassed fighter/druid with shitty stats for either of the classes and all theliabilities of druid (animal forms were weaklings and druids could not wear metal armour or have the best weapons) and was sort of forced on you if you wanted to have the best fighter in the game for your party (khalid) and in BG2 most people just dumped her from the party pretty quickly.
I believe Aly's Last Wishes is a tribute to a deceased fan (thanks to Shadowheart's VA), and references her support of the Gray Muzzle Society charity. 0:50 Sarevok is resurrected and briefly becomes an ally in BG2, but never becomes close to Jaheira so if anything she hates him especially for killing Gorion (Jaheira's friend and foster father to the BG1&2 protagonist). Jaheira is just acknowledging that it is possible to turn Sarevok Good, but given that his 'redemption arc' was just three brief conversations it's no wonder he went back to being Evil (like he talks about 19:50). 9:52 As a half-elf Jaheira is the closet to the end of her natural lifespan (since she's 146), but Astarion (263) and Halsin (350ish) are way older than her. 12:50 She's just talking about levels without talking about levels, it's normally an ability Druids get at 18th level. 23:20 Humans manage to do what Sarevok did and worse in the real world. 40:00 Search icon is in the top right of the window.
Yeah, the discussions of immortality have some additional context in a setting like DnD. An average DnD human will live for about 80 years, a half elf like Jaheira will live for about 200, while an elf might live for 700 years. Is it wrong for humans to seek immortality and wish to live longer when there are races that DO live for centuries? Does a drow who'll live for almost a millenium have any place to advise a half-elf on not chasing immortality?
Sometimes writing is so good in BG3 (like Jaheira's monologue here) that it just makes a huge impression that will last a long, long time. This episode is very melancholic (which is not surprising talking about mortality and grief, being on the graveyard and visiting mausoleums, reading last wishes), but it also provides so much empathy to feel - equally for alive and dead - that it's a perfect follow-up episode and counter to previous one with Bhaal's cultists and their disregard to lives they took with such disgustingly sadistic joy. BG3 has certain flaws, but the way the storytelling is structured and presented here is exceptional: we probably wouldn't have felt this emotional to events and speeches in Act 3 if not for us going through so many things in Act 1 & 2 and now finding appreciation for what Act 3 generously gives to those who explore carefully. Seeing Welonz's letsplay made me cherish this beautiful game more. BG3 is like one big and cosy tavern where characters share stories about previous experiences. It'll be never gone so long as we (and future generations) remember it. Amen.
One of my favourite things in this episode was just Welonz's real-life banter back at Jaheira ("why, are your bones crackling?", and "wanna place bets on that [who will die first]?). Welonz gets Jaheira, and knows that Jaheira doesn't like being patronised, and that she enjoys someone who can talk back to her with some snark of their own. 😄
44:52 don't know if it was intentional but that whole dialogue about Shar, light & shadows while Shadowheart has her face half in the light and half in the shadow (like on the thumbnail) was pretty fitting symbolically 🌖
On the difference between Kelemvor and Myrkul: Kelemvor is the God of the Dead, while Myrkul is the God of Death. It's a subtle but very important distinction. Kelemvor defends the sanctity of death, bidding his clerics to watch over graveyards and guard the dead from any and all desecration, such as Mortarch Scyre does here. His clergy are bid to spread the message that death is a natural part of mortal life and should not be feared. Myrkul, on the other hand, bids his followers to actively profane those same graves, often through acts of vile necromancy, in an effort to cultivate the fear of death in mortals, which Myrkul draws power from. Thus, Kelemvor and Myrkul are directly opposed to one another. Kelemvor is a warden for the departed, judging all souls that enter his Fugue Plane and directing them to their appropriate afterlives, similar to an Anubis or Hades figure. Myrkul, meanwhile, is more akin to the Grim Reaper, a personification of death that spreads rampantly, comes for all, and is pitiless.
Kelemvor is pretty much like Hades - administrative lord of the dead, in a sense. He is in charge of those that recently died until the deities they were faithful to can pick them up, and is in charge of the limbo-like realm people find themselves in immediately after death.
"Jaheira is the oldest here" No, Halsin is. Jaheira is about 130-150 Halsin is around 300. But Jaheira is a half-elf while Halsin is an elf, that's why Jaheira looks so much older than Halsin Hearing Jaheira talk about her late husband Khalid always makes me tear up. She kept his love letter together with her most prized treasures, hidden behind a secret locked door and protected by traps. He's been dead for 100 years and she still loves hm, still misses him ;_; Khalid was part of the canon party of BG1, inseparable from his wife Jaheira. Literally so, you took them in your party together or not at all I can still hear Jaheira cry when you find his corpse, ritually tortured to death in some experiments.
I was a bit sad about what they did with Sarevok (and one other character) here because in my gameplay of BG2 I always redeemed him and well, with the awesome mod, even romanced him :D But it is compensated with how well Jaheira is written.
I know it's hard to not get sidetracked since the city truly has so much going on, but the ideal for getting Minthara quickly and keeping continuity would be to finish Jaheira/Minsc quest and then head to Orin. Otherwise, I think it's fine doing Orin before a lot of the other city content tbh. It's a big boss so it feels big but I think that's fine, and there are plenty of other challenging bosses/missions aside from Orin, so it's not necessarily a cakewalk afterwards.
Saravok was companion in baldur gate 2 just like jaheira and viconia and minsc. Jon irenicas man murdered jaheira husband is main villain of baldur gate 2
I think Halsin or Minthara are the oldest in camp (although we don't know Minthara's exact age). Rough estimate of races life expectancy: -elves (including drows) and gnomes: 800 years -dwarves : 400 years -half-elves: 180 years -humans, halflings, tieflings: 100 years -half-orcs, dragonborns: 70 years. Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong !
It's understandable you'd question Sarevoks humanity, a lot of people did when they first saw him. ruclips.net/video/bYoRmGHIxA4/видео.htmlsi=0uYC15xzszncKat0
"Why are these two tombs linked?" I imagine it's because you tore down the wall that was separating them 😄
If you want to know more about Aly's last whishes note, its been added in the game by the devs because it was a ''last whishes'' of a woman in Shadowheart Voice actor stream who sadly died since.
I was trying to figure out exactly who Aly was for a week. Every google search was vague and focused on the mind flayerhunter tribute.
I know there’s a stream she did but it’s a long video and isn’t labeled
@@blacklite911 idk if links are blocked or not. But if you want more context, in the Jen and Aliona youtube video called ''This one is dedicated to the memory of Aly'' they talked about it at 1:47:05
@@DeadGraphiKs that’s the stream I’m talking about but I didn’t wanna sit through the whole thing because it’s long, and she didn’t put time labels on it
That moment of silence to mentally process all the murder and incest 🤣
It's the little moments like Jaheira's dialogue about her husband, the letters in the graveryard, and the level of details in even the small things that make this game so special to me. Yes the combat's really fun when you get into it (as much as D&D can be, really), the main quest is epic, and all that. But the slower bits with the companions, the fact that every single NPC has some dialogue, and the random lore drops in books put it over the top.
“M Kurwin” was a name you read in a letter addressed to Nine-Fingers that you found on Scratch’s owner all the way back in Act 1
I never played BG1 or 2 so at first i didn't care for Jaheira at all and yet, of all the cast she must be the one who grew on me the most. I can't imagine how amazing it must have been to have known her 20 years ago and get to see her again, older and wiser. I love her.
Also, she has a Cassandra Pentaghast vibe. Older woman with an east European accent with whom I don't always agree but I know i can always tell her and she will respect me more for it.
Well frankly jaheira as a class was near useless in AD&D 2nd edition as she was a multiclassed fighter/druid with shitty stats for either of the classes and all theliabilities of druid (animal forms were weaklings and druids could not wear metal armour or have the best weapons) and was sort of forced on you if you wanted to have the best fighter in the game for your party (khalid) and in BG2 most people just dumped her from the party pretty quickly.
Highly advise you bring Karlach more often in the city, she's a native after all, she has a fair few neat interactions with things.
I believe Aly's Last Wishes is a tribute to a deceased fan (thanks to Shadowheart's VA), and references her support of the Gray Muzzle Society charity.
0:50 Sarevok is resurrected and briefly becomes an ally in BG2, but never becomes close to Jaheira so if anything she hates him especially for killing Gorion (Jaheira's friend and foster father to the BG1&2 protagonist). Jaheira is just acknowledging that it is possible to turn Sarevok Good, but given that his 'redemption arc' was just three brief conversations it's no wonder he went back to being Evil (like he talks about 19:50).
9:52 As a half-elf Jaheira is the closet to the end of her natural lifespan (since she's 146), but Astarion (263) and Halsin (350ish) are way older than her.
12:50 She's just talking about levels without talking about levels, it's normally an ability Druids get at 18th level.
23:20 Humans manage to do what Sarevok did and worse in the real world.
40:00 Search icon is in the top right of the window.
Jaheira crying destroyed me.
Yeah, the discussions of immortality have some additional context in a setting like DnD. An average DnD human will live for about 80 years, a half elf like Jaheira will live for about 200, while an elf might live for 700 years. Is it wrong for humans to seek immortality and wish to live longer when there are races that DO live for centuries? Does a drow who'll live for almost a millenium have any place to advise a half-elf on not chasing immortality?
Sometimes writing is so good in BG3 (like Jaheira's monologue here) that it just makes a huge impression that will last a long, long time. This episode is very melancholic (which is not surprising talking about mortality and grief, being on the graveyard and visiting mausoleums, reading last wishes), but it also provides so much empathy to feel - equally for alive and dead - that it's a perfect follow-up episode and counter to previous one with Bhaal's cultists and their disregard to lives they took with such disgustingly sadistic joy. BG3 has certain flaws, but the way the storytelling is structured and presented here is exceptional: we probably wouldn't have felt this emotional to events and speeches in Act 3 if not for us going through so many things in Act 1 & 2 and now finding appreciation for what Act 3 generously gives to those who explore carefully. Seeing Welonz's letsplay made me cherish this beautiful game more. BG3 is like one big and cosy tavern where characters share stories about previous experiences. It'll be never gone so long as we (and future generations) remember it. Amen.
One of my favourite things in this episode was just Welonz's real-life banter back at Jaheira ("why, are your bones crackling?", and "wanna place bets on that [who will die first]?). Welonz gets Jaheira, and knows that Jaheira doesn't like being patronised, and that she enjoys someone who can talk back to her with some snark of their own. 😄
44:52 don't know if it was intentional but that whole dialogue about Shar, light & shadows while Shadowheart has her face half in the light and half in the shadow (like on the thumbnail) was pretty fitting symbolically 🌖
That speech from Jaheira at the beginning of the video also made me teary and emotional :,,
On the difference between Kelemvor and Myrkul: Kelemvor is the God of the Dead, while Myrkul is the God of Death. It's a subtle but very important distinction.
Kelemvor defends the sanctity of death, bidding his clerics to watch over graveyards and guard the dead from any and all desecration, such as Mortarch Scyre does here. His clergy are bid to spread the message that death is a natural part of mortal life and should not be feared.
Myrkul, on the other hand, bids his followers to actively profane those same graves, often through acts of vile necromancy, in an effort to cultivate the fear of death in mortals, which Myrkul draws power from. Thus, Kelemvor and Myrkul are directly opposed to one another.
Kelemvor is a warden for the departed, judging all souls that enter his Fugue Plane and directing them to their appropriate afterlives, similar to an Anubis or Hades figure. Myrkul, meanwhile, is more akin to the Grim Reaper, a personification of death that spreads rampantly, comes for all, and is pitiless.
I think the graveyard really proves how great this game's writing is, especially in the smaller details and world building
Kelemvor is pretty much like Hades - administrative lord of the dead, in a sense. He is in charge of those that recently died until the deities they were faithful to can pick them up, and is in charge of the limbo-like realm people find themselves in immediately after death.
"Jaheira is the oldest here"
No, Halsin is.
Jaheira is about 130-150
Halsin is around 300.
But Jaheira is a half-elf while Halsin is an elf, that's why Jaheira looks so much older than Halsin
Hearing Jaheira talk about her late husband Khalid always makes me tear up.
She kept his love letter together with her most prized treasures, hidden behind a secret locked door and protected by traps.
He's been dead for 100 years and she still loves hm, still misses him ;_;
Khalid was part of the canon party of BG1, inseparable from his wife Jaheira. Literally so, you took them in your party together or not at all
I can still hear Jaheira cry when you find his corpse, ritually tortured to death in some experiments.
"Why are these two tombs linked?"
I'm pretty sure it has something to do with that wall you knocked down.
Umberlee is a goddess of the sea, widely regarded as an evil god.
46:25 - Was that a PUN?! In a GRAVEYARD?! ...Tomb soon, guys.
21:55 Yep, that's a document hard to process.
I forgot to mention you should bring Karlach to the Graveyard, too.
Yes, please!
I was a bit sad about what they did with Sarevok (and one other character) here because in my gameplay of BG2 I always redeemed him and well, with the awesome mod, even romanced him :D But it is compensated with how well Jaheira is written.
I will to the end of my days headcanon that Sarevok is a changeling who believes he is THE Sarevok
Damnit, the title and Shadowheart as a thumbnail bamboozled me here :D
I think Helena's mother was a Shapeshifter but Sarevok is indeed tragically human.
I know it's hard to not get sidetracked since the city truly has so much going on, but the ideal for getting Minthara quickly and keeping continuity would be to finish Jaheira/Minsc quest and then head to Orin.
Otherwise, I think it's fine doing Orin before a lot of the other city content tbh. It's a big boss so it feels big but I think that's fine, and there are plenty of other challenging bosses/missions aside from Orin, so it's not necessarily a cakewalk afterwards.
Fans of the first two games didn't like what they did to Sarevok. He had a redemption arc and I guess.
read every tombstone, if you can, you wont regret it.
That thumbnail omg 😍
I have completed the game twice and had never heard that conversation about Khalid
Saravok was companion in baldur gate 2 just like jaheira and viconia and minsc. Jon irenicas man murdered jaheira husband is main villain of baldur gate 2
Hope everyone's doing well today
From what I've read Sarevok did have a chance at redemption after the first game, the same way Loghain could in Origins.
Grody ol bhaal
Shart so pretty on the thumbnail 🥰
I think Halsin or Minthara are the oldest in camp (although we don't know Minthara's exact age).
Rough estimate of races life expectancy:
-elves (including drows) and gnomes: 800 years
-dwarves : 400 years
-half-elves: 180 years
-humans, halflings, tieflings: 100 years
-half-orcs, dragonborns: 70 years.
Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong !
It's understandable you'd question Sarevoks humanity, a lot of people did when they first saw him.
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