I need a way to add an external sound sound output (coming from a computer) to a an ATEM mini stream. This would allow bypassing the ATEM's converters when streaming concerts. I've tried feeding sound via HDMI without the images, but the sound is distorted when using Reaper, and with Dsp-Quatro, noise appears from time to time.
This is GREAT. I’m curious if it would be possible to combine your trick with the automatic camera angles switch macro ruclips.net/video/aIILx2zalz0/видео.html That would be DOPE for my livestream DJ mixes!
Thank you for your videos... With zoom i use the usb connector to get atem mini pro iso like a webcam. I saw in tour tutorial than i can record with obs the diffusion, but can i use the iso function of the atem during a zoom conference? Thanks for your help
This video is a MUST watch for anyone doing a live stream - precise and straightforward - an excellent tutorial that will result in a significant addition to your live arsenal. Excellent work, Alex - thank you.
A few questions; 1. Does this work on all ATEM minis? 2. Would it be possible to use a joystick (xbox controller) to emulate PTZ using those settings via a plugin? 3. What would be best for switching between shots(macros)? Stream Deck? iPad app? 4. Could you "Preview" a shot before switching to it?
1. It should work on all ATEM Mini Models. 2. I'm not sure. 3. A Stream Deck with "Companion" works great for activating macros. Reall buttons and very customizable. 4. Yes, but only on the Pro and ISO models. Create your DVE in the upstream keyer (your Digital Zoom). Then, in the software push the "Key 1" button in the "Next Transition" box. You will now see the second angle in the preview panel of the multi-view. 4.5. To test the transition to the new angle, click the "Preview Transition" button in the "Transition" box. Now try out various transitions (e.g. Cut, Mix, Dip, Wipe, but not the DVE transition. We're already using the USKey to digitally zoom in, so it is not available to use). When you are happy with one, turn off "Preview Transition". Now when you do the transition, it will show in the live stream. Hope this helps.
Got a chance to use this yesterday... Worked great... If Black Magic would make that DVE assignable to a "virtual" camera, that would be perfect. It would do 2 missing features 1. You would have a preview before switching and 2. you would be able to transition like the other cameras vs a hard cut... but still very useful!
You are brilliant. I have learned so much from you. I know it is all logical and in the end I would have found it out myself. But you save me so much time and you explain it so well. Thank you for this one as well.
Another terrific macro video, Alex - thank you. For those of us streaming solo these are of enormous value. This group is already on my Stream Deck XL.
If anyone is having trouble programming a macro to record key frame zooming, you have to make sure you change the speed as apart of your macro recording. Did the trick for me!
I had no idea that you could do this, and I am going to use it everyday now. Thanks so much! This changes my 4 camera setup to an "8 cam" setup with ease.
@@AlexPettitt Will do! I stream with my band, so we have a wide angle on the main camera, and then being able to also use that cam for tighter shots will be amazing. With a BMPCK can you integrate the power zoom control into macros?
We are stepping up our live streams with canon xa11's and the atem mini. Thank you for doing these training videos as it will put my company in front of the competition and keep us there!
Dude, this is Awesome! I do 2 person interviews with 3 cameras. This will allow me to multiply my shots to look like at least 6 cameras (minus the angles)
Alex, thanks for your tutorials. Could you make one on ATEM camera color correction/grading. How to make colors of cameras match using ATEM software. Thanks again
These macro tips you share are amazing. Have you thought, or perhaps you could think about, of sharing the macros. They're super quick for you to make yet I find I always miss a step. Practice makes perfect but for those of us occasional users its very time consuming.
I have thought about it... I think the simplest way would be for me to create a sharable restore file with a bunch of Macro's included, which people could edit the XML to customise if they wanted. What do you think?
This is pretty great. Ive been running a weekly livestream concerts with 2 manned cameras, a wide, and the fourth for putting graphics on screen. I could potentially set up a macro for each band member from the wide and be able to cut to anyone at any time.
Sounds like a good setup already Jimmy, but yeah applying this technique will allow you to get an even bigger variety of shots! Let me know how you get on with it if you do try it out :)
@@AlexPettitt Will do! One nice feature would be to prepare the DVE settings in preview and transition to it.But I don't think there's any way to do that. Transitioning the upstream key to on would be awesome too. Hey, while I have your attention. Have you found any way of getting the local recordings on the ATEM Mini Pro to have better audio quality? The audiobitrate field in the Streaming XML file is set to 128000 but the file I'm getting is 16bit
@@JimmyDThing Hey Jimmy, I'll add these two things to my list of things to look at. I'm pretty sure that you can preview the USK, just need to remind myself on how to do it. As for the audio bitrate, I'll have to check if changing that XML setting actually applies to recordings, or just streaming. A part of me thought it was only streaming, but I might be wrong. I'll check this :)
@@AlexPettitt I had one more thing, too, actually if you see this. The wide we are using is coming from a Red Scarlett. We are so drastically under-utilizing this camera, so I agree that having 4k input capabilities would do amazing things. That said, we have had to put the camera into ProRes LT to get it to work. When it's not, it drops a noticeable amount of frames every few seconds. It seems that the switcher can't handle the amount of data coming at it. Wondering if you've seen this at all or if you have any ideas about what else we could be doing.
This is fantastic for my shows! I have the ATEM Mini Not-Pro and I can do the punch in Zoom. However, I am having difficulty creating the slow zoom. Is there *any* chance you can tell me how it can be done as you said a macro can be created but didn’t show it in this video. That would be super helpful. Thanks!
This is such an amazing feature tbh I know that I am quite late to the party so forgive me if all that follows are old news and/or has been covered elswhere. (In case of the latter, I would love to know where :) A few questions, observations and ideas:: 1: How many "non-hardware" macro slots does the ATEM have? I imagine that pairing the Atem with a thirdparty controller to achieve additional "directly clickable" macros than the limited amount of buttons on the ATEM could supercharge this technique further. 2: Am I correct in assuming that I could create separate macros for predefined various modes of zooms/crops and zoom/transition speed, thus allowing me for instance, to use 3 macro slots for nothing else but changing between 1sec, 5sec and 10sec and leaving the speed undefined in the macros that control zoom/pan? (thus allowing me to use a few macros in succession to multiply my options without using one macro slot for each? (Like defining things separately as follows: Macro1= zoom 100->120% + execute Macro2= zoom 100->150% + execute Macro3= zoom 120->100% + execute macro4= zoom 150>100% + execute Macro5= speed: 1sec Macro6= speed: 5sec Macro7= speed: 10sec Macro8= Center -> right Macro9= Right -> Center Macro10= Center -> Center - resulting in 24 (I think) different (useful) zoom variations using combinations of 10 macros. (24 useful combinations out of 36 total) (The example above is very crude and just meant as inspiration. In reality, with a bit of creative and logical thinking, one could really expand on this (like 1: moving the "execute function" to a button of its own so as to not have to follow a specific order in selecting zoom/speed/placement and 2: adding a MacroXX= static scale 200% (or sometihng to that effect), thus adding a handful of scaled pans between rightcenter at different speeds. Sorry about the wall of text, I am sure that this could have been put in way simpler form (english is not my first language), but I got so excited that I had to just share my thoughts. If my thinking is more or less without flaw, I will add further observations and use-cases when I have had a chance to experiment with the actual device.
Hey Yonso, I did hear back from BM saying that at the moment they do don’t have a solution which covers recording every single action on the ATEM in the DaVinci file. They’ll be working to implement these in time, but by providing the PGM record in the folder as well, it will allow you to reference and recreate the DVE as you wish to do so. Definitely not perfect....but they are aware of the problem and hopefully will continue to work on it :)
Thanks for the help on this Alex and Yonso. I assumed EVERY edit would be there so I'm pretty bummed this is not working. It really slows me down for doing the QUICK edits I hoped to do before publishing. Alas. I'll put in a help ticket and ask others to do so, as well. THANKS, for the great vids, Alex! They are super helpful, man.
This is awesome, it is the one thing that has been putting me off getting the Atem, well that and the fact it is not in stock anywhere for love nor money. Important questions though; is it possible to control the Macros with an ip[ad remote such as the Strata app?
This is great. Thank you. I do have a question. You mentioned using the virtual zoom and possibly shifting it to one side to make room for a PIP. What I am unsure of is that this virtual zoom and the PIP both use the upstream key's DVE controls. If that is the case, how can you actually do this zoom and PIP at the same time. We have been using our ATEM minim pro ISO for several months now, and it is great. But we started using PIP. We would like to have the main camera on a speaker and periodically shift them to one side while displaying a slide in a PIP pane. Any tips on using PIP and virtual zoom together would be greatly appreciated.
Love it - thanks! But I'm wondering if it is possible to realise close ups like this while keying in front of a greenscreen? The background, provided by another input (HDMI) or the Atem Media Library would also need to scale, right? Should be possible with macros, too - right? Is this a scenario you already tested? Thanks for a tip here :)
Incredible tips mate! This company is really on to something special. I just bought one of these. Do you think that it’s possible to setup a single macro that would switch to all 4 cameras as well as virtual zooms or would you need multiple macros?
Hello Alex, all of your tutorials are just wonderful. I am kind of newbie in ATEM Mini Pro. A question...Is there way to use ATEM Mini Pro stream, recorded video(MP4 file) besides using OBS? Thanks.
Alex, I am trying to incorporate your idea of Zooming (using Set A, Set B, varying rates) with Aaron Parecki's idea of camera switching & pause to create a very dynamic macro that goes from one camera to another, zooms in, stays there, zooms out a bit, stays there, zooms out fully, transitions to different camera angle... etc. Buuut I must be doing it wrong. Is it possible to hire you for an hour or so via Zoom so you can guide me through? Thanks again for all that you do!
Hi Alex, informative as usual. I’ve got the ATEM Mini Pro ISO coming tomorrow. Can’t wait to try this. One question. If I’m using the USB C to connect an SSD to record the footage from each camera, will I still be able to access the software and macros as you’ve described, on my MacBook Pro?
Yes it you will :) Take a look at my view about how to connect your ATEM via a network... this will show you how to access the software control via ethernet instead of USB-C :)
Simply brilliant, thanks a lot! You explain really good! Does anyone know if it’s possible to map the macros to let’s say an Elgato Streamdeck? Thanks a lot in advance!
This is almost what I'm looking for. Anyway to zoom in a video input so that I can switch normally and the source is always cropped in? I just want a camera input to always been zoomed in some, but without having to use the PiP to "switch" it.
Awesome tip - thanks, Alex! I just have one question: I understand that the ATEM Mini also can control optical zoom when using a power zoom lens with the BMPCC 4K. Can you then make macros that allow you to duplicate what you showed in the video (switching between wide angle and close up with the press of a button, as well as a constant zoom/in out effect), but with optical zoom instead? Thanks in advance! Kind regards, Martin
Did you ever recieve an answer to this question? I'm looking for the same solution. I have a blackmagic camera and can zoom, but can't seem to figure out how to record a macro for it
@@dodothev Hi, Andy! Sorry for the late reply, but unfortunately I have not found an answer to this yet. I don’t have a power zoom lens myself, so I have not been able to test it. Perhaps asking Blackmagic support is the way to go. Good luck! :)
Hi Alex; Love your videos. Question, I have a ATEM mini, and the software downloaded. Now the software has a zoom function that can actually zoom certain cameras I have been told? Do you know if it would work with the VIXIA HF R800 ?
Hi Alex! Why my RATE in keyframe goes up only to 8:10 ??? I see yours going 10, im 1080p 29.97 streaming high, and tested to change outputs (in case that related to buffer memory) with no success only 8:10 max long rate
Hi, I must say this is a life saver for me, thank you. I'm now faced with another issue. I have 3 cameras on my blackmagic atem mini, I scaled camera 2, each time I cut to another camera angle, camera source 2 will lose the scaling made Is there a way of making camera source 2 saved to avoid changes when cutting back to another angle? I will be glad if you can help. Thanks.
Hey, thanks for the tips, kind of a silly questions, the whites on my output look blown out, if I connect the source directly to a monitor, it looks good, but through the switcher blown out. I can't find the controls for camera brightness/gain in the software, or more specifically I see some things called gain, but adjusting them doesn't seem to have any affect on the picture...
Question..... i have a shot that I have to zoom on a door. Then as a person walks down an aisle zoom out and following them panning cam as we go. I manually do this now since changing views live will make the viewer seasick. Lol. Is there a way to set this up as just a button to press and the cam/software does the rest until I load my next cam view. This would make the transition nice and clean
At the moment, the camera buttons can only be used to cut to that specific HDMI input, they are not able to be assigned to macros. But something like an Elgato Streamdeck can be! :)
Is there ANY way to zoom in and also keep a PIP? We are trying desperately to crop out camera info on the main camera and still have a PIP and CANNOT make it work. Please if you have any advice!
Thanks Alex this is really useful. By the way, is it possible to use a different graphic on the USK and DSK ? They both seem to take the same graphic from the media player. I have used a camera input with a graphic from H2R dragged on to a second screen but it seems odd to have the USK and DSK tied to the same graphic otherwise.
@@AlexPettitt Thanks Alex - I suppose there would have to be a second media player to call up different graphics for USK and DSK - but I can use the USK with a green screen graphic (eg generated in H2R) into a 'Camera' input. Thanks for your really helpful videos and responses.
Is this the only solution to have multiple scenes from 1 camera? Do the macros create a cut in the project if we use the pro ISO? There are no options to set - CAM 1 - Wide view - CAM 2 - Zoom view etc. ?
nice ... but you are losing resolution by software zooming ... when you are doing postproduction you will take 4k from camera and you can go to 1080 without losing quality but what about live stream?
Hi alex.. Good tips I'm using a surface book 3 laptop with a resolution of 3240 x 2160 and another laptop with 1920 x 1080. Can atem downscale the 3240 x2160 to 1920 x 1080?
Hi Alex. I have a BM 6k and would like to create virtual zooms. When connected to the Atem pro iso I am still only getting 1080p, is there a way of using the 6k from the camera to split up the shot and not lose resolution?
if I am understanding this correct, you zoom digital in a FullHD pic, so you loose quality, right? its not really zooming in a 4k signal if your cam is 4k because the signal transferred to Atem is still only HD
Thanks for the video. Blew my mind. I tried to change the size value to greater than 1 but the software arrow is grayed out and if I type into the field it resets back to 1. I'm using an ATEM Television Studio HD. Any idea what I'm screwing up?
Try updating your ATEM Software Control to the latest version and also update your ATEM to the latest firmware. If this doesn't work it's possible that your version of ATEM doesn't support going above 1. Hope this helps
Alex - have you experimented or know a workaround that would let someone use their USB-C monitor as the multiview monitor versus an Atomos or TV? Is it as simple as using an adaptor? I'm curious if you've seen such a configuration? To be specific, I have a LG 21.5" HD 4K Ultra Fine LED Monitor Black for Mac Only. The ports on the back are for USB-C (female), so I'm curious if an HDMI OUT (HDMI to USB-C) is possible with this monitor so I can free up my Atomos for my camera as an external recorder for the main angle.
Hey unfortunately not, HDMI to USB-C converters do not work. The USB-C is also only capable of outputting the program output, so you wouldn't get multiview on it anyway currently. Hopefully that is something BM will change in the future. Good question though!
Alex, I seem to be having a peculiar issue . I connect 2 cameras to HDMI 1 and 2 on the Atem mini Pro. The HDMI 2 works fine for about 30 seconds then goes black. Don’t have an issue with HDMI 1. Tried swapping cables, doesn’t help. the HDMI 2 source works flawlessly with another computer or iPad. What am I doing wrong ?
Does Keyframe animation recorded in macro as well? I just could record a macro that punch in and out .. but I'm haveing trouble to record the "animation"keyframe zoom..
It's been a while since I got my mini out and testing with it, but I'm pretty sure the software upgrade to the USK also included the Mini...so this method should work on all 3 versions of the ATEM MINI :)
@@AlexPettitt I ipgraded to 8.4 but the Size slider won't go after 1.0 It can not magnify it like you did on the video, what am I doing wrong? ATEM Mini PRO running 8.4
I tried to set up a zoom out using a macro with the same workflow you used for creating the punch in zooms but it won't work. Is it a different set of steps once you hit the record micro button for achieving the zoom out shot at the beginning of your video?
@@AlexPettitt thank you! I think this is good information for anyone thinking about a multicam setup for small sporting events. Buy the pro iso and marry it to mini pro, seems almost like a $$$ saving hack! Would love to see a short vid on your implementation.
Pretty sure the update to the USK was across the whole ATEM range and not just the ATEM Mini, so yeah it should work exactly the same for the ATEM Television Studio :)
Let me know below if you'd like more tips and tricks videos like this one for the ATEM Mini :)
I need a way to add an external sound sound output (coming from a computer) to a an ATEM mini stream. This would allow bypassing the ATEM's converters when streaming concerts. I've tried feeding sound via HDMI without the images, but the sound is distorted when using Reaper, and with Dsp-Quatro, noise appears from time to time.
I'm curious to know how much quality is lost in the "digital zoom". I suppose we each need to test ourselves. Thanks again for the great videos.
This is GREAT. I’m curious if it would be possible to combine your trick with the automatic camera angles switch macro ruclips.net/video/aIILx2zalz0/видео.html
That would be DOPE for my livestream DJ mixes!
Thank you for your videos...
With zoom i use the usb connector to get atem mini pro iso like a webcam.
I saw in tour tutorial than i can record with obs the diffusion,
but can i use the iso function of the atem during a zoom conference?
Thanks for your help
You mention this works on the ISO? Is there any reason it wouldn't work on the Mini?
Love this type of tricks/tips for the ATEM... please do more!
Glad to hear it Rob! I've got a bunch in the pipeline... Hoping to release a few a month along with my current content :) Thanks for the support
Your channel is gold for us „atem-starter“ !!!
Wow, that was super cool. Great way to use the DVE. Thank you for sharing.
This video is a MUST watch for anyone doing a live stream - precise and straightforward - an excellent tutorial that will result in a significant addition to your live arsenal. Excellent work, Alex - thank you.
By far the best tutorials on this product
Really enjoy watching your tips, learning so much more about the Atem software uses.
A few questions;
1. Does this work on all ATEM minis?
2. Would it be possible to use a joystick (xbox controller) to emulate PTZ using those settings via a plugin?
3. What would be best for switching between shots(macros)? Stream Deck? iPad app?
4. Could you "Preview" a shot before switching to it?
I'd also like to know answers to these questions.
me too! :-)
I would appreciate answers to those questions too 😀
1. It should work on all ATEM Mini Models.
2. I'm not sure.
3. A Stream Deck with "Companion" works great for activating macros. Reall buttons and very customizable.
4. Yes, but only on the Pro and ISO models. Create your DVE in the upstream keyer (your Digital Zoom). Then, in the software push the "Key 1" button in the "Next Transition" box. You will now see the second angle in the preview panel of the multi-view.
4.5. To test the transition to the new angle, click the "Preview Transition" button in the "Transition" box. Now try out various transitions (e.g. Cut, Mix, Dip, Wipe, but not the DVE transition. We're already using the USKey to digitally zoom in, so it is not available to use). When you are happy with one, turn off "Preview Transition". Now when you do the transition, it will show in the live stream.
Hope this helps.
Got a chance to use this yesterday... Worked great... If Black Magic would make that DVE assignable to a "virtual" camera, that would be perfect. It would do 2 missing features 1. You would have a preview before switching and 2. you would be able to transition like the other cameras vs a hard cut... but still very useful!
You are brilliant. I have learned so much from you. I know it is all logical and in the end I would have found it out myself. But you save me so much time and you explain it so well. Thank you for this one as well.
Thanks so much for the lovely comment, and I'm glad to be able to help!
Another terrific macro video, Alex - thank you. For those of us streaming solo these are of enormous value. This group is already on my Stream Deck XL.
If anyone is having trouble programming a macro to record key frame zooming, you have to make sure you change the speed as apart of your macro recording. Did the trick for me!
Another awesome video showing me features I didn't know about in my AMPI. Thanks so much.
I had no idea that you could do this, and I am going to use it everyday now. Thanks so much! This changes my 4 camera setup to an "8 cam" setup with ease.
Glad to hear that Aidan, let me know how you get on when you try it :)
@@AlexPettitt Will do! I stream with my band, so we have a wide angle on the main camera, and then being able to also use that cam for tighter shots will be amazing. With a BMPCK can you integrate the power zoom control into macros?
This is really cool! So this is only done using the software on screen? Or can these actions be assigned to the buttons on the actual ATEM?
We are stepping up our live streams with canon xa11's and the atem mini. Thank you for doing these training videos as it will put my company in front of the competition and keep us there!
Thx Alex! I like this kind of tips and tricks. Best wishes from Germany! Go for it! Thx for your work!
Thanks man...so grateful for this..this is a monster switcher...
Dude, this is Awesome! I do 2 person interviews with 3 cameras. This will allow me to multiply my shots to look like at least 6 cameras (minus the angles)
Great tutorial. It helps a lot.
Nice video Alex. The ATEM has got a lot of tricks behind its small size.
Alex, thanks for your tutorials.
Could you make one on ATEM camera color correction/grading. How to make colors of cameras match using ATEM software.
Thanks again
Good suggestion Viktor, I'll add it to my list :)
Awesome man.
Perfect video.
These macro tips you share are amazing. Have you thought, or perhaps you could think about, of sharing the macros. They're super quick for you to make yet I find I always miss a step. Practice makes perfect but for those of us occasional users its very time consuming.
+1
I have thought about it... I think the simplest way would be for me to create a sharable restore file with a bunch of Macro's included, which people could edit the XML to customise if they wanted. What do you think?
@@AlexPettitt That would seem to be the easiest way for you to handle it - I would definitely use it
I would be happy to write a readme instruction to go with it
This is pretty great. Ive been running a weekly livestream concerts with 2 manned cameras, a wide, and the fourth for putting graphics on screen.
I could potentially set up a macro for each band member from the wide and be able to cut to anyone at any time.
Sounds like a good setup already Jimmy, but yeah applying this technique will allow you to get an even bigger variety of shots! Let me know how you get on with it if you do try it out :)
@@AlexPettitt Will do! One nice feature would be to prepare the DVE settings in preview and transition to it.But I don't think there's any way to do that. Transitioning the upstream key to on would be awesome too.
Hey, while I have your attention. Have you found any way of getting the local recordings on the ATEM Mini Pro to have better audio quality? The audiobitrate field in the Streaming XML file is set to 128000 but the file I'm getting is 16bit
@@JimmyDThing Hey Jimmy, I'll add these two things to my list of things to look at. I'm pretty sure that you can preview the USK, just need to remind myself on how to do it.
As for the audio bitrate, I'll have to check if changing that XML setting actually applies to recordings, or just streaming. A part of me thought it was only streaming, but I might be wrong. I'll check this :)
@@AlexPettitt hey! You're the best! Thanks!
@@AlexPettitt I had one more thing, too, actually if you see this.
The wide we are using is coming from a Red Scarlett. We are so drastically under-utilizing this camera, so I agree that having 4k input capabilities would do amazing things.
That said, we have had to put the camera into ProRes LT to get it to work. When it's not, it drops a noticeable amount of frames every few seconds. It seems that the switcher can't handle the amount of data coming at it. Wondering if you've seen this at all or if you have any ideas about what else we could be doing.
High quality and useful video, thank you man!
LEGENDARY. ANOTHER DOPE VID ALEX!
Cheers bro! Appreciate you man :)
Another great video, can’t wait to have my new space so I can put all of these ideas into action!
This is awesome. I can see a lot of potential for this. Thank you.
Great! Thanks for that! Want more
You got it! Cheers for the feedback MJ!
This is fantastic for my shows! I have the ATEM Mini Not-Pro and I can do the punch in Zoom. However, I am having difficulty creating the slow zoom. Is there *any* chance you can tell me how it can be done as you said a macro can be created but didn’t show it in this video. That would be super helpful. Thanks!
Nice clean explanation....keep up the good work
Thanks very much Tom :)
Thanks, Alex. Great stuff.
Great video, thanks for making this!
Awesome stuff.. I think I'll get a streamdeck and make some macros for these features.. could be very handy! thanks for the video,
Just Awesome ... like it, ... can the smooth zoom be also apply to Macros ?
My Question too
Atem mini pro iso just got a lot better and nearly everything you'll ever need live... or even pre video editing
Great video! How would you crop the video as I do have some pieces on the left and right side of my video which I wanna hide. So a zoom in would help
This is such an amazing feature tbh
I know that I am quite late to the party so forgive me if all that follows are old news and/or has been covered elswhere. (In case of the latter, I would love to know where :)
A few questions, observations and ideas::
1: How many "non-hardware" macro slots does the ATEM have?
I imagine that pairing the Atem with a thirdparty controller to achieve additional "directly clickable" macros than the limited amount of buttons on the ATEM could supercharge this technique further.
2: Am I correct in assuming that I could create separate macros for predefined various modes of zooms/crops and zoom/transition speed, thus allowing me for instance, to use 3 macro slots for nothing else but changing between 1sec, 5sec and 10sec and leaving the speed undefined in the macros that control zoom/pan? (thus allowing me to use a few macros in succession to multiply my options without using one macro slot for each?
(Like defining things separately as follows:
Macro1= zoom 100->120% + execute
Macro2= zoom 100->150% + execute
Macro3= zoom 120->100% + execute
macro4= zoom 150>100% + execute
Macro5= speed: 1sec
Macro6= speed: 5sec
Macro7= speed: 10sec
Macro8= Center -> right
Macro9= Right -> Center
Macro10= Center -> Center
- resulting in 24 (I think) different (useful) zoom variations using combinations of 10 macros. (24 useful combinations out of 36 total)
(The example above is very crude and just meant as inspiration. In reality, with a bit of creative and logical thinking, one could really expand on this (like 1: moving the "execute function" to a button of its own so as to not have to follow a specific order in selecting zoom/speed/placement and 2: adding a MacroXX= static scale 200% (or sometihng to that effect), thus adding a handful of scaled pans between rightcenter at different speeds.
Sorry about the wall of text, I am sure that this could have been put in way simpler form (english is not my first language), but I got so excited that I had to just share my thoughts.
If my thinking is more or less without flaw, I will add further observations and use-cases when I have had a chance to experiment with the actual device.
This is awesome!! Any news on the lack of PIP recording in the Davinci Resolve Project?
Since my PIP does not get recorded in the Davinci Project, this zooms don’t show up on my timeline. Or am I doing something wrong?
Hey Yonso, I did hear back from BM saying that at the moment they do don’t have a solution which covers recording every single action on the ATEM in the DaVinci file. They’ll be working to implement these in time, but by providing the PGM record in the folder as well, it will allow you to reference and recreate the DVE as you wish to do so. Definitely not perfect....but they are aware of the problem and hopefully will continue to work on it :)
Thanks for the help on this Alex and Yonso. I assumed EVERY edit would be there so I'm pretty bummed this is not working. It really slows me down for doing the QUICK edits I hoped to do before publishing. Alas. I'll put in a help ticket and ask others to do so, as well. THANKS, for the great vids, Alex! They are super helpful, man.
This is rad! Thank you so much!
This is awesome, it is the one thing that has been putting me off getting the Atem, well that and the fact it is not in stock anywhere for love nor money. Important questions though; is it possible to control the Macros with an ip[ad remote such as the Strata app?
This is great. Thank you. I do have a question. You mentioned using the virtual zoom and possibly shifting it to one side to make room for a PIP. What I am unsure of is that this virtual zoom and the PIP both use the upstream key's DVE controls. If that is the case, how can you actually do this zoom and PIP at the same time. We have been using our ATEM minim pro ISO for several months now, and it is great. But we started using PIP. We would like to have the main camera on a speaker and periodically shift them to one side while displaying a slide in a PIP pane.
Any tips on using PIP and virtual zoom together would be greatly appreciated.
I wish I found this channel sooner
YES, would love 4k input on the ATEM Mini to not lose 1080 resolution with this digital zoom. Black Magic, over to you!
I have the same concern with this digital zooming. How much sharpness will you loose by this?
Love it - thanks! But I'm wondering if it is possible to realise close ups like this while keying in front of a greenscreen? The background, provided by another input (HDMI) or the Atem Media Library would also need to scale, right? Should be possible with macros, too - right? Is this a scenario you already tested? Thanks for a tip here :)
Incredible tips mate! This company is really on to something special. I just bought one of these. Do you think that it’s possible to setup a single macro that would switch to all 4 cameras as well as virtual zooms or would you need multiple macros?
Hey Matt, you could certainly create a complex Macro that rotates through all the cameras and virtual cams automatically :)
Hello Alex, all of your tutorials are just wonderful. I am kind of newbie in ATEM Mini Pro. A question...Is there way to use ATEM Mini Pro stream, recorded video(MP4 file) besides using OBS? Thanks.
Alex, I am trying to incorporate your idea of Zooming (using Set A, Set B, varying rates) with Aaron Parecki's idea of camera switching & pause to create a very dynamic macro that goes from one camera to another, zooms in, stays there, zooms out a bit, stays there, zooms out fully, transitions to different camera angle... etc. Buuut I must be doing it wrong. Is it possible to hire you for an hour or so via Zoom so you can guide me through? Thanks again for all that you do!
Great content. I can’t seem to get the slow zoom to work as a macro. Any chance of doing it step by step?
I have the same problem. Keyframe settings and rate don’t appear to be saved within the macro. Do we have any way around this please? 😊🎹
Thanks!
Hi Alex, informative as usual. I’ve got the ATEM Mini Pro ISO coming tomorrow. Can’t wait to try this. One question. If I’m using the USB C to connect an SSD to record the footage from each camera, will I still be able to access the software and macros as you’ve described, on my MacBook Pro?
Yes it you will :) Take a look at my view about how to connect your ATEM via a network... this will show you how to access the software control via ethernet instead of USB-C :)
Alex Pettitt Great, thanks. Will do.
Fantastic. Thanks a lot :)
Love the content, will this work with Switcher Studio?
Good info, what lens and setting do you use for you BMPCC 4K for live streaming?
Simply brilliant, thanks a lot! You explain really good!
Does anyone know if it’s possible to map the macros to let’s say an Elgato Streamdeck? Thanks a lot in advance!
Alex-Magic! Thx!!
This is almost what I'm looking for. Anyway to zoom in a video input so that I can switch normally and the source is always cropped in? I just want a camera input to always been zoomed in some, but without having to use the PiP to "switch" it.
This is amazing!!
Awesome tip - thanks, Alex!
I just have one question: I understand that the ATEM Mini also can control optical zoom when using a power zoom lens with the BMPCC 4K. Can you then make macros that allow you to duplicate what you showed in the video (switching between wide angle and close up with the press of a button, as well as a constant zoom/in out effect), but with optical zoom instead?
Thanks in advance!
Kind regards,
Martin
Did you ever recieve an answer to this question? I'm looking for the same solution. I have a blackmagic camera and can zoom, but can't seem to figure out how to record a macro for it
@@dodothev Hi, Andy! Sorry for the late reply, but unfortunately I have not found an answer to this yet. I don’t have a power zoom lens myself, so I have not been able to test it. Perhaps asking Blackmagic support is the way to go. Good luck! :)
This is amazing. Do you think the a6100 with the 16-50 zoom could be extended to go to a 100mm or more close up? Thanks
Great Stuff!!!
Hi Alex; Love your videos. Question, I have a ATEM mini, and the software downloaded. Now the software has a zoom function that can actually zoom certain cameras I have been told? Do you know if it would work with the VIXIA HF R800 ?
Great idea! Thanks.
You're welcome! Thanks for the feedback :)
Perfect
Alex, can you suggest a power zoom telephoto lens with f2.8 that works with BM 4K camera for using remote zoom in and out function of ATEM software.
Hi Alex! Why my RATE in keyframe goes up only to 8:10 ???
I see yours going 10, im 1080p 29.97 streaming high, and tested to change outputs (in case that related to buffer memory) with no success only 8:10 max long rate
Hi, I must say this is a life saver for me, thank you.
I'm now faced with another issue.
I have 3 cameras on my blackmagic atem mini, I scaled camera 2, each time I cut to another camera angle, camera source 2 will lose the scaling made
Is there a way of making camera source 2 saved to avoid changes when cutting back to another angle?
I will be glad if you can help.
Thanks.
Hi, Alex. Do I need power zoom lens such as 18-105? Thanks for help,
great video :)
Hey, thanks for the tips, kind of a silly questions, the whites on my output look blown out, if I connect the source directly to a monitor, it looks good, but through the switcher blown out. I can't find the controls for camera brightness/gain in the software, or more specifically I see some things called gain, but adjusting them doesn't seem to have any affect on the picture...
Question..... i have a shot that I have to zoom on a door. Then as a person walks down an aisle zoom out and following them panning cam as we go. I manually do this now since changing views live will make the viewer seasick. Lol. Is there a way to set this up as just a button to press and the cam/software does the rest until I load my next cam view. This would make the transition nice and clean
You are gold, if I just got 1 camera in input 1... Can I create anothers 3 macros and just pressing cam 2 or cam 3, can I switch the ángulos (zooms)?
At the moment, the camera buttons can only be used to cut to that specific HDMI input, they are not able to be assigned to macros. But something like an Elgato Streamdeck can be! :)
if the upstream key is already being used how would you overlay the presentation onto the live video?
And this should work with sony a6100 cameras yes? Still figuring out the software but just making sure its zooming after the camera on computer?
Is there ANY way to zoom in and also keep a PIP? We are trying desperately to crop out camera info on the main camera and still have a PIP and CANNOT make it work. Please if you have any advice!
Thanks Alex this is really useful. By the way, is it possible to use a different graphic on the USK and DSK ? They both seem to take the same graphic from the media player. I have used a camera input with a graphic from H2R dragged on to a second screen but it seems odd to have the USK and DSK tied to the same graphic otherwise.
Hey Delcan, the DSK and USK are not tied, you can select their sources in the USK and DSK pallet in the software control :) Hope this helps!
@@AlexPettitt Thanks Alex - I suppose there would have to be a second media player to call up different graphics for USK and DSK - but I can use the USK with a green screen graphic (eg generated in H2R) into a 'Camera' input. Thanks for your really helpful videos and responses.
Hi, how do you zoom out the background camera and keep the PIP at top?
exactly what i wanted to know if atem mini pro can do that.
Glad to hear that the video was useful for you :)
Is this the only solution to have multiple scenes from 1 camera?
Do the macros create a cut in the project if we use the pro ISO?
There are no options to set
- CAM 1 - Wide view
- CAM 2 - Zoom view
etc. ?
Is it possible to make cuts using this feature aswell? So that in post I have the full resolution.
I’m having trouble filling the screen with my canon 6d. Is there any work around for that ? I’m running the extreme iso.
nice ... but you are losing resolution by software zooming ... when you are doing postproduction you will take 4k from camera and you can go to 1080 without losing quality but what about live stream?
Hi alex.. Good tips
I'm using a surface book 3 laptop with a resolution of 3240 x 2160 and another laptop with 1920 x 1080. Can atem downscale the 3240 x2160 to 1920 x 1080?
Hi Alex. I have a BM 6k and would like to create virtual zooms. When connected to the Atem pro iso I am still only getting 1080p, is there a way of using the 6k from the camera to split up the shot and not lose resolution?
I mean what version should my ATEM have to be able to do this?
Hi Alex, does the Atem Mini work with Cisco's Webex?
if I am understanding this correct, you zoom digital in a FullHD pic, so you loose quality, right? its not really zooming in a 4k signal if your cam is 4k because the signal transferred to Atem is still only HD
Thanks for the video. Blew my mind. I tried to change the size value to greater than 1 but the software arrow is grayed out and if I type into the field it resets back to 1. I'm using an ATEM Television Studio HD. Any idea what I'm screwing up?
Try updating your ATEM Software Control to the latest version and also update your ATEM to the latest firmware. If this doesn't work it's possible that your version of ATEM doesn't support going above 1. Hope this helps
Alex - have you experimented or know a workaround that would let someone use their USB-C monitor as the multiview monitor versus an Atomos or TV? Is it as simple as using an adaptor? I'm curious if you've seen such a configuration?
To be specific, I have a LG 21.5" HD 4K Ultra Fine LED Monitor Black for Mac Only. The ports on the back are for USB-C (female), so I'm curious if an HDMI OUT (HDMI to USB-C) is possible with this monitor so I can free up my Atomos for my camera as an external recorder for the main angle.
Hey unfortunately not, HDMI to USB-C converters do not work. The USB-C is also only capable of outputting the program output, so you wouldn't get multiview on it anyway currently. Hopefully that is something BM will change in the future. Good question though!
Alex, I seem to be having a peculiar issue . I connect 2 cameras to HDMI 1 and 2 on the Atem mini Pro. The HDMI 2 works fine for about 30 seconds then goes black. Don’t have an issue with HDMI 1. Tried swapping cables, doesn’t help. the HDMI 2 source works flawlessly with another computer or iPad. What am I doing wrong ?
Does this work on the television studio hd?
Do you have I link where I could check out what else is in the last update?
Interested in OBS live streaming using ATEM mini pro ISO
will this work with the atem tv studio pro?
Does Keyframe animation recorded in macro as well? I just could record a macro that punch in and out .. but I'm haveing trouble to record the "animation"keyframe zoom..
Will this work on the mini or is it just on the pro?
It's been a while since I got my mini out and testing with it, but I'm pretty sure the software upgrade to the USK also included the Mini...so this method should work on all 3 versions of the ATEM MINI :)
@@AlexPettitt Thanks
@@AlexPettitt I ipgraded to 8.4 but the Size slider won't go after 1.0 It can not magnify it like you did on the video, what am I doing wrong? ATEM Mini PRO running 8.4
@@rafyperez Same question here. What do you think Alex?
I tried to set up a zoom out using a macro with the same workflow you used for creating the punch in zooms but it won't work. Is it a different set of steps once you hit the record micro button for achieving the zoom out shot at the beginning of your video?
I have the same problem. Thanks,
Have you attempted to "daisy chain" your Atem Mini's? Would it be possible to use, say a Atem Mini inputted to the Mini Pro ISO?
Hey Lamont, yes this is possible. I have my Mini Pro daisy chained to my Mini Pro ISO :) Works great 👍
@@AlexPettitt thank you! I think this is good information for anyone thinking about a multicam setup for small sporting events. Buy the pro iso and marry it to mini pro, seems almost like a $$$ saving hack! Would love to see a short vid on your implementation.
Is this specific to the ATEM Mini line or can the same punch in be setup on the Television Studio HD?
Pretty sure the update to the USK was across the whole ATEM range and not just the ATEM Mini, so yeah it should work exactly the same for the ATEM Television Studio :)