Still Panual it was not supposed to be lecture but Konvo, am stuck between blaming you for talking too much or blaming Sihle for not offering her opinions openly and firmly. #DopeEpisode
Beautiful conversation.I used to love weaves and all that.I out grew them simply because they were chowing my hairline and i was just tired. I have been on natural hair since 2017.And i must say,it feels great.
Sihle hasn't really done a deep dive into these topics, but her heart is in the right place. Once she has done the necessary research, she will be an unstoppable force. Keep it up mogirl.
This comment is unnecessary. There's a trend in SA, especially black Twitter, where people always have to prove their depth, feminism & wokeissm even to the extent of not understanding their fellow SA'ns from different social backgrounds. You may not be Sihle's target, but others are. Find the person who speaks to you & don't belittle others.
Unneccessary. There are people she reaches & understand & find her insightful, This comment is unnecessary cause you could just go to those who've done a deep dive
This comment itself is surface level and provides zero insights but we move from people who can give criticism but cannot put their neck out and receive it...
Rebuke and correct. Interesting words, which I would normally find as a Christian in church. Though what I've come to realize is that as Christians, some find it hard to repent. Repentance goes a long way with many misunderstandings. "My understanding, stand to be corrected" Repentance it is when one is no longer attached to the sin committed and the for one has repentanted. Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone. It's for Christians to pray for sinners to be dettached from sin. Any one can be attached to not aiming high in this challenging times. Dettach from sin. Attach to aim!
Great conversation. On the issue of initiation schools among the Xhosa Christians, my take is that as long as they don't eat food offered to the idols and consume blood. This is according to the Book Acts 15:28-29. On the issue of choice, the Bible clearly mentions that all things are permissable, but not all things are beneficial. God also says He has presented with life and death, and He says 'choose life'. Sihle is very wise, great conversation once again ❤❤
Great conversation Pen ! Really enjoyed and fully agree with your perspective on Masculine traits as well as the black/dark skin inferiority complexes ! On the Masculine discussion i would add that the conservative Americans are now fighting back woke agendas and Trumps election win might be a significant shift for the Masculine imperative in America.
We need more conversations like this, especially with our children. The future is looking very scary with the coming generation. Values , morals, self love, basic wisdom seem to have been thrown out the window for the majority. We need to seriously educate our youth, perhaps too much freedom is a problem and dictatorship is the way to go in order to save our people.
Penuel the Black Pen deserves credit for sparking deep, esoteric conversations and challenging conventional thought. His approach inspires us to think critically about our power and place in the world. S/o for pushing the boundaries of philosophy and encouraging others to recognize the godlike potential within themselves. Psalm 82:6 (KJV) "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." Romans 12:2 (KJV) "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."
This was such a great & educational conversation 👏🏾👏🏾 My only question is after all this and realising standards set by culture & a system that is against black people. What then should we reference & what standard should we be living by , the campus keeps moving.
So, human beings are capable of doing horrible things to each other whether male or female but as society we've made these term "toxic masculinity" and ignored "toxic femininity" as if women are the are the holly species and man are the only ones who do horrible things. So inasmuch as we talk about toxic masculinity we need to also talk about toxic femininity whereby women intentionally do things that provokes man using their beauty and then play victim when man are reacting.......
Huh, funny because I'm always "picking fights" with my Christian friends and just yesterday I had a discussion about this with one of them. I'm glad to see these discussions in the public domain especially among Southys.
Well there are monitizable aspects of things that we are dominant in but unfortunately we do not control the full aspects of those things like you said sports, culture and talent. Those things won't do us any good until we actually own them like others own theirs. Minirals and raw material should also be one of those things. Poeple like President Trouré are those qe can aspire to be.🤷🏽♂️ 1:33:50
very good question she raised about Islam and muslim, I paused to search it. Islam and Muslim are not the same, but they are related: Islam is the religion, and Muslim is the term for someone who practices Islam
You platform promotes freedom of intellectual conversations on controversial issues and this is exemplary to that fact. Sihle needs some assistance in scripture referencing her points to improve her apologetics. I would love to be part of next conversation to further elaborate on Christology in relation to "theology" and culture. As for gender identity; cultural norms differ depending on a particular society. In fact Jesus wore a dress and Zulu male traditional clothing is what would be considered a skirt in the contemporary world. Much to discuss. Great rekevant conversation.
Aii no Sihle is very thoughtful and wise I must say, respect her so much for standing for something and intentionally but the black pen 2 it easy on her 😅😅
L23:24 This is how u correct/judge someone the main thing is to help thing this verse gives the blueprint Matthew 18:15-20: "If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector"
WHAT I can say people must do their research because ther are so many book that are published about religion, once you do that you will see how much you don't know.
Arabiv is the most complex language to translate. A slight lower tone can mean something different hence Arabic is important to us to understand and learn in order to uphold the authenticity of the Quran
Mr Penuel let me say this when we look at genesis verse one it say God created.... but in the companion Bible it says alohim which is a plural that means God's and that get when you ģo to the verse where God created man, it say come let us creat men in our image, ask yourself who is calling, that means he or she was not alone.secondly it shows that moselem chose in a number of gods and chose ALLA as their God as much as other religions chose their gods, because each religion say their God is the only one. And remember religion is about numbers and power just like politics. If you can go back and research that how the religion was instilled to black people you be shocked and you will never defend it.thank your
God penuel your guest is just too fast in her speaking, perhaps it's her way of speaking but if she could adjust a bit for my sake and maybe other people who are slow listeners as well. I understand the inconvenience this may cause but if it's possible, she should consider. Thank you. God Penuel thumbs 👍 up for your sacrifice to humanity. May all forces that controls the universe guid you, protect you and work in your favour so all you do towards the uplift of mankind will continue to be a success. 1❤ from Naija
10:27 i would like to disagree that its the same. Would you say if 2 groups of employees got the same message and the same explaintion and same instructions from the boss. One did it as closesly as possible to the source, then the second one listened to the message but have distorted the source so far that it is barely identifiable from the source, wouldn't that be considered a false represention of the source?
What I'm trying get at (trying atleast ) is that the Abrahamic religions have a lot in common but certain make or break/ core pillars is what ultimately make them WAY! differentwhere they all claim to be the only way🤷🏽♂️
Mr Penuel , as a person who have been following Islamic Afghanistan before the US exit the war obviously. The status of women flexibility and freedom has changed, women are heavily veiled and aren't allowed to even be heard in the streets please give your view on it. One of your short videos will be appreciated, verspoedige nuwe jaar.
Sphesihle has a beautiful mindset, the type of mindset I teach my daughters, to question things, be knowledgeable and God fearing. She is a great asset to our nation and should 1 day consider getting into the leadership of this country via parliament or goverment. Just a correction Penuel, Christianity we are not following a person in Jesus Christ's. We are following His teaching which are God inspired. Who is God in this instance, the Triune God (God the Father, God the Son Jesus Christ and God Holy Spirit) So Jesus Christ is God, who took the nature of man, to redeem us from our fall. When he lived here in planet earth, He lived as God-man. He is the only one out of all religious formations who died and rose again. There is no other.
In our African way of life we don’t have two people coming together it’s always about Union of families , hence inyongo is improtant in that union of the families the two characters are just that. Hence they will always be accountable to the family.
As a black muslim ,uright pen We are not regarded as muslims if we dont believe in jesus When we pray we pray to God Allah , Muhammed swt we try to fellow his lifestyle, character n morals Our polygamy fundamentally steams from assisting a suffering widowed women with children. We muslims are basically practicing othodox Christians, if we judge from the 10 commandements
There is no polygamy in Othordox Christianity either. Believing in Jesus is not the issue, it's about believing who he said he was. The claims he made about God and Himself. Muhammad had a very questionable character and morals, I dont think you would want to follow him in this time and day.
You need to have more of these live chats. As a dark skinned person I'm triggered, but this is the truth. We need to be honest with ourselves at some point and do better.
😂bro im built different. I saw this whole conversation on a different eye. It's Sihle discussing religion with God(Penuel). 1000 years later the next gen will be discussing Penuelism😂, I love this simulation man Otherwise it was very educative shout-out 🤝
The problem is that you that’s both the host and guest call the African religion, culture or tradition , which is far from it. The African way of life which is what you call religion was unfortunately not written but it is well documented.
Hey Pen, thanks for your very interesting insight on the different levels that each group lies in , but I would like to disagree with your point at 1:28:56 , we can easily get carried away and think Caucasians(whites) are not innovative , but they are very very innovate , from creating tech products like the Internet, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook etc.., the list goes on, to automobile engineering (German car brands, popular British and Italian cars brands) I think white people come up with "most" innovations , and the rest of world create products that either copy or compete with those innovations. That was an interesting take though on the question of how we are at the bottom of the food chain.
Allah is Arabic and Eloah is Hebrew which is now commonly known as Elohim within Christianity, Which is a Diety. God comes from the Latin root word "Deus", Which means he who shines in the Firmament. NgesiZulu means yena "Oqhakaza Emkhathini", Umkhathi or Firmament is a Spiritual Realm or Heavenly Realm, so God basically means "He who shines above all in the Spiritual Realm". Which is alsa a basic Translation to "Our Father who Art in Heaven", Meaning the Head of the "Spiritual Realm".
Dear sihle I know that you grow up already the religion was up and running so I don't blame you but don't ignore the truth, remember that if you believe you believe some thing that you don't know whether it exists on not but if you know some things you don't have to defend it because you know it and it's true. Thank you.
@ 10:00 This is false. Christians and Jews worship YAHUAH, HIS name is not commonly known because of denominational doctrine and translations. Another thing is that a tenant of Islam is that allah begets no sons and any such belief is considered heretical, yet The in the bible the Father begets a Son. These are completely different beings. Christianity and Judaism are quite close the conflict is over who the Messiah is. Christians believe it is Yeshua who first came as a suffering servant and will return as a conquering King, while Jews believe the messiah is yet to come and reject Yeshua because they expected and still expected a conquering king. The Jews also take the suffering servant to be a different messiah.
Just to correct you Pen. Abraham was not the first Jew, the title of being a Jew is connected to Jacob who was also known as Israel. To add onto that, Muslims believe in the same God as Christians and Jews, the difference is that just like Judaism, Islam considers creating partners with God as the most unforgivable sin. Muslims believe in one God and pray directly to him and no one else. And also Muslims believe in the holy scriptures that were revealed to previous messengers such as the Zubur(Psalms) given to Prophet Dawud(David) PBUH, the Towrah(Old Testament) which was given to Prophet Musa(Moses) PBUH, the injeel(parts of the new testament) given to the messiah Isa(Jesus) and finally the revelation given to the prophet Muhammad PBUH in the Quran. The prophet Muhammad PBUH, did not bring about a new religion rather he was bringing a message to bring people back to worshiping God and God alone as Christian had diverted from Jesus’ PBUH teachings.
This is the perfect example of the blind leading the blind This is why we need to know the word of God (the Bible) so we don't say the things this young lady is saying 🙆🏽♀️
Thank you for having me Pen🙏🏾 I will always love me some thought provoking conversations 😌
@@Sihleeey always appreciate you. One more sitdown now in January... when you're ready.
@@PenuelismAwungifakela lengane Bafo mani
😂😂😂@@FakaziKhumalo
Pen gonna Marry Sihle and convert her into Islam
You are good lady
You know what Penzo, I differ with you on so many things, but you make so many valid points that keeps me subscribed to your channel.
I appreciate you 🙏🏽
Im growing to love Sihle 💐i jxt like how she's so well-informed and being unapologetic about what she believes amd stand for while being humbled
Sihle you're appreciated and celebrated. Keep it going.
For the record:
Sihle asked me to have a conversation this time around, & to pushback. Versus a one-sided interview.
That's flexible and nice to have than a traditional interview which allows not much of interruption. Iyabulela iLali 🖋️
I am liking the difference style in content… and I am learning more thus far.
Still Panual it was not supposed to be lecture but Konvo, am stuck between blaming you for talking too much or blaming Sihle for not offering her opinions openly and firmly. #DopeEpisode
I love, love that revelation on God’s judgment 🤯🤯. So, so on point and so scriptural Sihle❤.
Beautiful conversation.I used to love weaves and all that.I out grew them simply because they were chowing my hairline and i was just tired. I have been on natural hair since 2017.And i must say,it feels great.
This woman has tremendous wisdom
She's tiny but very huge ❤
"Father Abraham had many sons like Penuel"😂🎉😂 you're funny Pen.
Great interview.
That dusted me 😂😂😂
Thank you guys for the sit down. I'm looking forward to the next one🤝
The Xhosa nation loves you . Siphesihle siyazingca ngawe ntombi❤
@Pen i really liked how you adressed the question about black ppl being inferior. Your explanation was well thought out and on point. 👊🏾
Sihle hasn't really done a deep dive into these topics, but her heart is in the right place.
Once she has done the necessary research, she will be an unstoppable force. Keep it up mogirl.
This comment is unnecessary. There's a trend in SA, especially black Twitter, where people always have to prove their depth, feminism & wokeissm even to the extent of not understanding their fellow SA'ns from different social backgrounds. You may not be Sihle's target, but others are. Find the person who speaks to you & don't belittle others.
Unneccessary. There are people she reaches & understand & find her insightful, This comment is unnecessary cause you could just go to those who've done a deep dive
This comment itself is surface level and provides zero insights but we move from people who can give criticism but cannot put their neck out and receive it...
Great Conversation, Love you Sihle...Pen can you have a Sit Down with Dineo Ranaka please..
Rebuke and correct. Interesting words, which I would normally find as a Christian in church. Though what I've come to realize is that as Christians, some find it hard to repent.
Repentance goes a long way with many misunderstandings.
"My understanding, stand to be corrected"
Repentance it is when one is no longer attached to the sin committed and the for one has repentanted.
Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone. It's for Christians to pray for sinners to be dettached from sin. Any one can be attached to not aiming high in this challenging times.
Dettach from sin.
Attach to aim!
I love when you have Sihle over!
Great conversation. On the issue of initiation schools among the Xhosa Christians, my take is that as long as they don't eat food offered to the idols and consume blood. This is according to the Book Acts 15:28-29.
On the issue of choice, the Bible clearly mentions that all things are permissable, but not all things are beneficial. God also says He has presented with life and death, and He says 'choose life'.
Sihle is very wise, great conversation once again ❤❤
This Boy is a master of Dope Conversations. Big up Boy🖋🖋
Great conversation Pen ! Really enjoyed and fully agree with your perspective on Masculine traits as well as the black/dark skin inferiority complexes ! On the Masculine discussion i would add that the conservative Americans are now fighting back woke agendas and Trumps election win might be a significant shift for the Masculine imperative in America.
Shoutout to Sihle ✨ and the black pen never disappoints 🔥✊🏾
Beautiful conversations 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Shout out to you Guys 🇿🇦👌✌️l love the podcast so educational and planting some seeds in our African brains
I agree on not making it a standard and pushing it on others.
She's a good listener.
Although she should do the talking as a guest. Says a lot about the interviewer.
@@thomasprogli3372it is not an interview, she say she wants a conversation
Great conversation ❤❤
Judgement: Rebuking vs Condemnation
Kind read more on your/the religious studies . Hinduism is the first religion that birth all the abrahamic religions .
She's so logical more than most men. It's unbelievable that most men can't stand up for masculinity. She's a Godsent!
Love Sihle❤❤❤❤
Last minutes was dope Pen❤🇱🇸
Let me like before I listen to this later on, enkosi Sihle and the team ngobuyela kwelikhasi libaluleke kangaka.
Great show 👏 👍 👌 🙌 ❤️ 😇😎
Thank you for another ONE
wonderful episode
I love Sihle and I agree with a lot of her views ❤
great conversation.
Yena uSisi unomntu?
I kid of course. She's one of the most interesting people to listen to. This should be good to listen
@@LwandoMpehle 🤭🤭🤭
I just also dreamt of pillow talk fantasy with such a great mind .., a rare jewel to die for ....
We need more conversations like this, especially with our children. The future is looking very scary with the coming generation. Values , morals, self love, basic wisdom seem to have been thrown out the window for the majority. We need to seriously educate our youth, perhaps too much freedom is a problem and dictatorship is the way to go in order to save our people.
Penuel the Black Pen deserves credit for sparking deep, esoteric conversations and challenging conventional thought. His approach inspires us to think critically about our power and place in the world. S/o for pushing the boundaries of philosophy and encouraging others to recognize the godlike potential within themselves. Psalm 82:6 (KJV) "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." Romans 12:2 (KJV) "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."
This was such a great & educational conversation 👏🏾👏🏾
My only question is after all this and realising standards set by culture & a system that is against black people. What then should we reference & what standard should we be living by , the campus keeps moving.
When we talk about masculinity, we need to distinguish between toxic masculinity vs. positive masculinity.
So, human beings are capable of doing horrible things to each other whether male or female but as society we've made these term "toxic masculinity" and ignored "toxic femininity" as if women are the are the holly species and man are the only ones who do horrible things. So inasmuch as we talk about toxic masculinity we need to also talk about toxic femininity whereby women intentionally do things that provokes man using their beauty and then play victim when man are reacting.......
There's no such a crap as toxic musculinity ...there's only aspects of musculinity that are just like in everything... including femeninity ......
Where did you learn that?
You just accept things without applying own thinking
The point about the cash kontant boys is spot on and disturbing because I also observed it 😢😩
Dope episode
Dr Abel Damina will give you clear understanding of what christiology 😅 is about,please invite him. Thanks
A beautiful conversation it was ❤❤
Pen please bring Hakeem Endorson
Cassper catching strays 🤣😂🥱
Penuel, you spoke about Islam, however do you not think joining Nazareths (Shembe) requires discipline and can also be good for men? 16:41
The history of makeup and high heels is that it was first worn by men, as a sign of status and to inhance their appearance.
Huh, funny because I'm always "picking fights" with my Christian friends and just yesterday I had a discussion about this with one of them. I'm glad to see these discussions in the public domain especially among Southys.
Well there are monitizable aspects of things that we are dominant in but unfortunately we do not control the full aspects of those things like you said sports, culture and talent. Those things won't do us any good until we actually own them like others own theirs. Minirals and raw material should also be one of those things. Poeple like President Trouré are those qe can aspire to be.🤷🏽♂️ 1:33:50
very good question she raised about Islam and muslim, I paused to search it. Islam and Muslim are not the same, but they are related: Islam is the religion, and Muslim is the term for someone who practices Islam
Wow.... she's intriguing on that Identity band.
You platform promotes freedom of intellectual conversations on controversial issues and this is exemplary to that fact. Sihle needs some assistance in scripture referencing her points to improve her apologetics. I would love to be part of next conversation to further elaborate on Christology in relation to "theology" and culture. As for gender identity; cultural norms differ depending on a particular society. In fact Jesus wore a dress and Zulu male traditional clothing is what would be considered a skirt in the contemporary world. Much to discuss. Great rekevant conversation.
Pen tell african people the truth about our new year which starts on 21 to 23 September so we are in 2025🎉 as African people
Sihle is our very own Candice Owens❤❤❤
Today i have been clarified on the role of hip hop
54:23 - 57:34 What is said there? 🤫 that 10 seconds is most interesting part
Pen needs to give his guests time to answer questions without interjecting. It's like he likes listening to himself
@@Bright-r4n she asked me for a conversation instead of an interview.
Try to listen in the future, this is not an interview but a conversation
True
@Penuelism Noted, was just saying. Nice show, by the way, brother.👌
@thapedimojapelo5419 The fact that I commented means I listened and hoped to hear more from the guest.
We must protect Pen for that last speech about blacks.
@@lavaconda_ danko ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
Why does the audio cut from 54:20 to 54:36?
Aii no Sihle is very thoughtful and wise I must say, respect her so much for standing for something and intentionally but the black pen 2 it easy on her 😅😅
Penuel my brother , I hope and pray to Allah that you become Muslim. You have spoken what Islam really is and not what the media wants Islam to be.
L23:24 This is how u correct/judge someone the main thing is to help thing this verse gives the blueprint
Matthew 18:15-20: "If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector"
Tip for 2025: please try to sound less distracted by your surroundings leave your director to what happens behind the scene 🙏🏽
Our year as African people starts in 21 to 23 September so we are in 2025🎉
Not January, January is for western countries
Afeni black will be interviewed soon here, just waiting to release the book BLACK NATION KNOW YOURSELF
I loved the Muslim convo ,please consider inviting a Muslim man maybe we might learn a thing or two.
WHAT I can say people must do their research because ther are so many book that are published about religion, once you do that you will see how much you don't know.
Arabiv is the most complex language to translate. A slight lower tone can mean something different hence Arabic is important to us to understand and learn in order to uphold the authenticity of the Quran
The Quran is a false book... Jesus is God
54:30 no sound
Hmmm... is this Casper we are talking about? @26:30
Mr Penuel let me say this when we look at genesis verse one it say God created.... but in the companion Bible it says alohim which is a plural that means God's and that get when you ģo to the verse where God created man, it say come let us creat men in our image, ask yourself who is calling, that means he or she was not alone.secondly it shows that moselem chose in a number of gods and chose ALLA as their God as much as other religions chose their gods, because each religion say their God is the only one. And remember religion is about numbers and power just like politics. If you can go back and research that how the religion was instilled to black people you be shocked and you will never defend it.thank your
God penuel your guest is just too fast in her speaking, perhaps it's her way of speaking but if she could adjust a bit for my sake and maybe other people who are slow listeners as well. I understand the inconvenience this may cause but if it's possible, she should consider. Thank you.
God Penuel thumbs 👍 up for your sacrifice to humanity. May all forces that controls the universe guid you, protect you and work in your favour so all you do towards the uplift of mankind will continue to be a success.
1❤ from Naija
Pen can you please have Dr Izak khomo historian on your show bro
10:27 i would like to disagree that its the same. Would you say if 2 groups of employees got the same message and the same explaintion and same instructions from the boss. One did it as closesly as possible to the source, then the second one listened to the message but have distorted the source so far that it is barely identifiable from the source, wouldn't that be considered a false represention of the source?
What I'm trying get at (trying atleast ) is that the Abrahamic religions have a lot in common but certain make or break/ core pillars is what ultimately make them WAY! differentwhere they all claim to be the only way🤷🏽♂️
Mr Penuel , as a person who have been following Islamic Afghanistan before the US exit the war obviously. The status of women flexibility and freedom has changed, women are heavily veiled and aren't allowed to even be heard in the streets please give your view on it. One of your short videos will be appreciated, verspoedige nuwe jaar.
Sphesihle has a beautiful mindset, the type of mindset I teach my daughters, to question things, be knowledgeable and God fearing.
She is a great asset to our nation and should 1 day consider getting into the leadership of this country via parliament or goverment.
Just a correction Penuel, Christianity we are not following a person in Jesus Christ's. We are following His teaching which are God inspired. Who is God in this instance, the Triune God (God the Father, God the Son Jesus Christ and God Holy Spirit)
So Jesus Christ is God, who took the nature of man, to redeem us from our fall. When he lived here in planet earth, He lived as God-man.
He is the only one out of all religious formations who died and rose again. There is no other.
That guy with 10 kids😂😅 love you Sihle ❤❤❤❤❤
Nothing as deadly as a staunch believer. Love her passion tho❤️🙏
In our African way of life we don’t have two people coming together it’s always about Union of families , hence inyongo is improtant in that union of the families the two characters are just that. Hence they will always be accountable to the family.
As a black muslim ,uright pen
We are not regarded as muslims if we dont believe in jesus
When we pray we pray to God Allah , Muhammed swt we try to fellow his lifestyle, character n morals
Our polygamy fundamentally steams from assisting a suffering widowed women with children.
We muslims are basically practicing othodox Christians, if we judge from the 10 commandements
You're clearly confused...if you know how much the Quran stole from the bible
There is no polygamy in Othordox Christianity either.
Believing in Jesus is not the issue, it's about believing who he said he was. The claims he made about God and Himself.
Muhammad had a very questionable character and morals, I dont think you would want to follow him in this time and day.
You need to have more of these live chats.
As a dark skinned person I'm triggered, but this is the truth. We need to be honest with ourselves at some point and do better.
what up with that window in your studio Pen. u must remove it
Pen i think the idea for the conversation is that it should leap into how humans should use a mirror
WOW!😮 This platform is important 🔥🔥🔥this was very informative 🥹Sihle is consistent -standing on business. I love it here🫡Telling it like it is.
Is Mr Penuel a Muslim? he is vouching for the religion..😊😊
Pastors also wear dresses which may translate to the same commedy dress skits
On the principle part Pen is spot on, lobola does not have a price tag, even if It's 2 goats.
😂bro im built different. I saw this whole conversation on a different eye. It's Sihle discussing religion with God(Penuel).
1000 years later the next gen will be discussing Penuelism😂, I love this simulation man
Otherwise it was very educative shout-out 🤝
Boom 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The problem is that you that’s both the host and guest call the African religion, culture or tradition , which is far from it. The African way of life which is what you call religion was unfortunately not written but it is well documented.
Hey Pen, thanks for your very interesting insight on the different levels that each group lies in , but I would like to disagree with your point at 1:28:56 , we can easily get carried away and think Caucasians(whites) are not innovative , but they are very very innovate , from creating tech products like the Internet, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook etc.., the list goes on, to automobile engineering (German car brands, popular British and Italian cars brands) I think white people come up with "most" innovations , and the rest of world create products that either copy or compete with those innovations. That was an interesting take though on the question of how we are at the bottom of the food chain.
Allah is Arabic and Eloah is Hebrew which is now commonly known as Elohim within Christianity, Which is a Diety. God comes from the Latin root word "Deus", Which means he who shines in the Firmament. NgesiZulu means yena "Oqhakaza Emkhathini", Umkhathi or Firmament is a Spiritual Realm or Heavenly Realm, so God basically means "He who shines above all in the Spiritual Realm". Which is alsa a basic Translation to "Our Father who Art in Heaven", Meaning the Head of the "Spiritual Realm".
Thank you for this 🙏🏽❤️
Dear sihle I know that you grow up already the religion was up and running so I don't blame you but don't ignore the truth, remember that if you believe you believe some thing that you don't know whether it exists on not but if you know some things you don't have to defend it because you know it and it's true. Thank you.
@ 10:00 This is false. Christians and Jews worship YAHUAH, HIS name is not commonly known because of denominational doctrine and translations.
Another thing is that a tenant of Islam is that allah begets no sons and any such belief is considered heretical, yet The in the bible the Father begets a Son. These are completely different beings.
Christianity and Judaism are quite close the conflict is over who the Messiah is. Christians believe it is Yeshua who first came as a suffering servant and will return as a conquering King, while Jews believe the messiah is yet to come and reject Yeshua because they expected and still expected a conquering king. The Jews also take the suffering servant to be a different messiah.
Just to correct you Pen. Abraham was not the first Jew, the title of being a Jew is connected to Jacob who was also known as Israel. To add onto that, Muslims believe in the same God as Christians and Jews, the difference is that just like Judaism, Islam considers creating partners with God as the most unforgivable sin. Muslims believe in one God and pray directly to him and no one else. And also Muslims believe in the holy scriptures that were revealed to previous messengers such as the Zubur(Psalms) given to Prophet Dawud(David) PBUH, the Towrah(Old Testament) which was given to Prophet Musa(Moses) PBUH, the injeel(parts of the new testament) given to the messiah Isa(Jesus) and finally the revelation given to the prophet Muhammad PBUH in the Quran. The prophet Muhammad PBUH, did not bring about a new religion rather he was bringing a message to bring people back to worshiping God and God alone as Christian had diverted from Jesus’ PBUH teachings.
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This is the perfect example of the blind leading the blind
This is why we need to know the word of God (the Bible) so we don't say the things this young lady is saying 🙆🏽♀️
Penuel the black pen,Lord God himself... everything 💯%korek!!!
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Penuel, make-up and wigs have nothing to do with the west. Women in the majority of culture/tradition enhance their appearance.
@@thapedimojapelo5419 we can agree to disagree.
This should be baby mommy no6
… she should be Baby Mama No. 01 and the only one, on my end 🤞🏽😅!
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Penuel if u have time my bro check the work of Jacque Fresco .
Penuel I've been confusing you with a Penson Mlotshwa, you both look alike 😂
That’s his brother