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I really like your style, Ben. It was nice seeing you review the great points of the KLR, just like the old days. You really get the KLR-the one-up and two-up comfort, the range, the looks, the reliability, the luggage capacity, and its ok off road ability. I also love the transmission and the fuel delivery. Really, only the weight gets me down so I don't ride it on trails I think I might fall down on. I am considering lowering it, though. I know, that's anathema to a trail rider but I do dirt and rocky roads, mostly, and I don't think it will negatively affect that riding much. Best wishes.
@@mikebetts9677 Hey, thanks! Yeah, it felt good to be talking about the KLRs again. I don't regret lowering my XR one bit. I used to really be against it, but I gained so much more than I ever thought possible and lost very little, other than that tippy feeling. Now I think making your bike fit you and the terrain you ride it on most often, is the only sensible thing to do. The nice thing about it (as long as you don't chop your side stand apart) is that if you don't like it, you can always go back to stock! Let me know what you think if you do lower it and ride safe!!!
Same. And if one is having a RUclips channel as a primary source of income, one should probably target a bigger audience. There is an army of KLR nuts. That being said, love the DR content but don’t watch all - when I see KLR? I click Ymmv
I bought a 2024 Klr and hated it. It can’t pass slow vehicles on the highway, it was always low on oil, and it always felt unstable/ top heavy on gravel around corners. It really was good at nothing. Traded for an Africa twin for long rides. Even the heavy Africa twin feels lighter and more stable on gravel. and now I’m going to get a xr650l as a second bike for short day rides
@@Davyflave I weigh 280lbs and mine with crash bars panniers etc has zero issues passing cars uphill dowhill flat ground. I also own 5 other bikes so hardly a klr nut. But I have never understood the "adv bike must outrun a vette and have 90hp" crowd. I have zero issue on gravel etc keeping up with other bikes. Im usually up near the front of the crowd. Spinning constantly doesnt make a bike more efficient. I dont have oil issues either. But my break in procedure was different from recommended. I used to build big block mopar drag racing engines. I broke the klr in the same as those. Run the hell out of it. I rode it hard for 200 miles or more at a time to seat the rings etc. Mine is a 2023 and it has 17k miles and there is no noticeable oil loss between changes
@@SwankyCatProductions I installed the MadStadt windshield that Tim2wheels put on his. It has incredible wind protection! I love the KLR best, I have the green one like you had, Gen 2. If you get a 2014 1/2 or newer they have the better front springs that don’t dive when you brake and the better seat. I’ve logged 300 miles in a day on that stock seat.
People like you who try several similar motorcycles, are the ones who help others to make good decisions about the right motorcycle to purchase. You save us money. Thanks for this video.
I'm glad to hear you find value in my work, thank you!!! That's basically what I set out to do after not finding the info I wanted when I was originally trying to make up my mind between the DR and KLR!!!
If you only have one bike…and enjoy mild off-roading/backroads but almost never ride single track, dangerously technical trails, but would also hop on the thing and ride it across the country, there’s only one affordable choice for you. The KLR 650.
@@davidgun6826 I just rode a friend’s Gen 3 KLR 650 Adventure 2300 mi to northern CA from Illinois. It was a challenge, but, over 5 days and 4 nights, doable. Awesome trip. The fairing, a National Cycle V-Stream windshield, a rubber o-ring throttle lock are what made it WAY more comfortable than I think you’d be on the equally powered 390. I’m on my 4th KLR, and you can buy them CHEAP right now-used or new.
One thing that doesn’t get mentioned often is 2-up. My wife preferred my klr650 over my T7, dr650, versys 650, and vstrom 650. My guess is because the seat was wide, there was good length between my backside and the back of the seat so she wasn’t cramped against me and the seat was flat and parallel to the ground so she wasn’t sliding forward into me like on the t7. Heck the only bike she liked more than the KLR was my victory cross country. It helps we are both smaller I guess so that won’t apply to everyone but whatever the reason is, she says it’s the most comfortable adv/dualsport bike for her so Kawasaki did something right getting passenger ergonomics right
Great info there, thank you! We never rode anything other than my KLR (and mostly sport bikes before then) but my wife also liked my KLR and it seemed to work well for us!
That’s good to hear. I always ask 2up questions just in case I have a passenger one day. I usually don’t get answers. What Gen KLR? Was it the factory seat? I have a stock seat on my Gen2.
This is a wonderful, thoughtful analysis! Ditto to all you said about the KLR Gen3. One other plus that I would mention is the KLR community. There is no better m/c community out there IMHO than all us crazy KLR buffs, yourself included. You contributed so much positive energy to the KLR community with all your KLR videos! Thank you, Ben (and Jerry, too).
Awe, thanks Kawabungah!!! That really means a lot!!! The KLR community is a huge added bonus to any KLR purchase! I've talked to a lot of great people because of the DR and XR content this summer, but I learned so much and talked to so many great people because of my "last minute" gen2 KLR purchase... This channel wouldn't be what it is today without it! Take care and ride safe my friend!
Well said. Having owned First, and second generation KLR’s I fully agree with everything you said. Great video/content. Be safe out there, and enjoy the ride while you can.
Awesome video! I want a dual sport for my first bike and this really helped me choose between the Honda and the Kawasaki. It was surprisingly difficult finding information directly comparing them.
I owned both a gen 1 KLR and an early DR back in the 90’s. Now I’m retired in my early 60’s and looking to get either a KLR or a DR. I’ve ridden a gen 2 KLR and a recent DR (both used bikes I was able to ride for over an hour each). They are soooooo different. I originally sold my KLR to get a more dirt focused bike, but then wound up selling the DR because I wanted something better on the road. At the time I was interested in F650 BMW’s, but I never bought anything to replace that DR. So now I’m in the same place, sort of, but I’m also older and less strong. The big conflict is the bikes relative weights. The lower weight of the DR combined with its better ft wheel control on loose gravel are big selling points for the DR, but the road manners of the KLR are as much better than the DR as the DR is better in the dirt. Finally, once again, I’m considering an older g650 or F650 single. Unfortunately Dakar versions are virtually unobtainable. I wish this presenter would get an older g650gs for comparison. I’m currently completely torn.
Because of you, TDubs kid and a couple others, I purchased my first street legal bike about 6 months ago - a 2024 TW200, which was intended to be a bike for me and the kids to rip around our yard and for me to run small errands around our semi-rural town. I now find myself riding further away from my house than originally intended. I already have an urge for a larger bike, while keeping the TW of course. Looking at a KLR650s, Kawasaki Verseys or a Honda Transalp. I’m really leaning towards the later two because I like the excitement of a dual cylinder but I keep coming back to the KLR because if it’s rock solid reputation. I don’t plan on off-roading, other than on our property as I have a side x side and four wheeler for that hobby. Decisions, decisions…
That's awesome!!! I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the TW! Haha, it's funny how when you get one, all of a sudden you need two or three 🤣. I'm always on the lookout!
I currently own a kawasaki Brute Force 750, and Suzuki vstrom dl1000. I'm considering either the Klr650 or the dr650 to bridge the gap between those two worlds. My plans are to do more motocamping/exploring. Your information has been very helpful! Thanks!
Haha yeah, I was a lot more ambitious with mine when I was in my 20s. Now that I'm a little wiser and my joints hurt a bit more in my 30s, I much prefer single tracking bikes that around triple my body weight 🤣
For the DR, instead of a rally tower, you could install the acerbis 6.6 gallon tank and a tall madstad screen. You’d not feel much at all top or bottom at speed. I’m currently using the 5.3 tank with a madstad. It feels like an ultralight ADV the way it’s currently setup. 2022 dr650”
Nice! I almost purchased the 6.6 when I saw them on sale... I just wasn't sure if the additional weight and fuel sloshing around would throw me off. Maybe I'll still give it a go after some suspension work!
He is trying for an all in one perfect bike and you won't get that from any bike. These bikes fit in between the goldwing and the dirt bike that have knobby tires. Each one leaning to one side or the other.
@ I’ve owned 2 Gen 1 KLRs 2 Gen 2 KLR’s a XR650L a DR650 and a V Strom 650 in search of the perfect low dollar ADV bike and there really is no such thing. Out of all them I think the closest to it was the Gen 1 KLR. Especially after I added the Waypoint Rally Fairing. The most fun was definitely the XR650 though. How Ben still has the stock tank on the XR is beyond me though lol. My next bike will be the Gen 3 KLR just for the sake of saying I had all 3 generations.
Great video, Anyone that has owned a KLR knows exactly what you're talking about. I bought my Gen. 1 2005 2 weeks before I did a Mexico trip down to Belize and back to Tampa round-trip solo On a learner's permit. 20 years later I would do it again in a heartbeat on a KLR!
Funny to me on the thoughts about KLR looks - I've had the opposite feeling :-). Thanks for the video, still trying to sort out what might be on the list...
I did the dark smoke screen last year after seeing yours on your old bike and man is that boy dark! It makes the night commutes sketchy, especially since I’ve luckily dodged two deer narrowly
On the Gen2? What height did you go with? I don't recall exactly, but I believe I was always looking over it, unless I really hunched down. It's definitely too dark to see much of anything through.
All great reliable tried and true fun bikes! Nothing is perfect. All shining in different areas. Looking forward to seeing what time tells for the KOVE 450, 450 MT, and DRZ 4S! Safe riding!
I think the problem is the grass is always greener and everything is a compromise so you have to decide what works best for you. Its really hard. I keep going back snd forth from adventure bikes to dual sports because i like the aspects of both. Probably the best bike for me is my T7 i currently have but thst foesnt stop me from lusting for other bikes. Once this small adv segment really gets going I can see leaving thr T7 for something a little less heavy and less powerful so that when im alone i dont have to worry about having issues with a big heavy bike. The dr and xr are definitely unicorns in that respect. Good power and good offroad ability. I do miss my dr650. I think a good modern alternative is the Himalayan 450. If you take off all of the extras it comes with (crash bars, center stand, etc) its getting close to 400lbs which i think is roughly the sweet spot for a smaller adv with 40-50hp. Im still hoping for a mini tenere, maybe 500cc single cylinder.
Yeah, there's always give and take when it comes to switching any bike, but especially from dual sport to adv. As nice as one is for one reason, the other is just as nice for another haha. The new lightweight ADVs may help with some of that though!
This is me in a nutshell. I’m always wanting to try the bike that’s not in my carport! I want to look at the T7, vstrom 800, etc…. I told my stepson that is the biggest indicator of bike addiction.
I bought my KLR as an all around bike- one I could ride anywhere at any time. I could mod it to my preference and enjoy the open road and the gravel road as well. After a while I found myself riding on the highway more that the gravel roads so I decided to get a luxury highway cruiser . Comfort and power over long distances. Now as I look at the KLR I look at is as a dirt bike. However, the KLR isn’t a dirt bike. So I’m thinking of getting a smaller ( lighter) dirt bike to fill that need. So as I still watch your channel the XR is probably where I’m heading. With my Goldwing for the highway and the XR for off-road I’ll have the best of both worlds. Maybe get a larger tank or a rear desert tank to provide the distance needed.
Yeah, I don't know exactly what it was but I've never had as much fun on a bike as I did my Gen2. I think it was just the first taste of adventure riding and exploring new trails, but it sure was a great bike for that!
Hello Ben from your neighbor state!!! I like the point you brought up about the klr and weight. After owning an 08 ktm xc300 and an 08 wr250r (still have the wr) along with my klr, I actually prefer the klr along with all of the mods I've done. The klr seems more planted to me even offroad, and i can actually manage the weight pretty well. Ride safe, and stay swanky!!
I've owned both an XR 650 and 3 Klr 650s. I currently own a gen 3 KLR. No doubt the XR is a better dirt bike. But as an ADV bike it falls way short. Of course you can add a bunch of mods, spend a bunch of dollars and make it better for traveling but I took the other fork in the road. I modified the KLR, to work better in the dirt because it's such a comfortable all day kind of ride. Mods include fork and shock upgrades as well as pipe, snorkel and ecu mods. Now it handles good, power delivery is better. It is still not as good off road as the XR or DR, but I can strap on enough camping gear for a two week tour to where ever, ride down unimproved dirt roads, ( heart in throat) and arrive at the camp site with beer and a cooler. Can't to that on either the XR or DR. Spend two weeks camping off of either of those and you'll be looking to take an add for sale out on Craigs List. Don't get me wrong I love to ride off road over rocks, sand, mud,v up crazy hills and scare myself while grinning all the while. But that's a job for my WR450, no way I'd want either the XR or DR for serious off road. Just sayin...
I love my KLR Gen3 lava orange and will probably keep it till it dies, but, 2 weeks ago I bought a new '24 T700 and have 4 boxes of goodies to install tomorrow. Now I have to flip a coin on which one to ride. I think the T7 on even days and the KLR on the odd days. Ben, you need to load up a bike and head to Colorado or somewhere on a week long moto camping trip, viewers love that type of content.
I am a bit sad I didn't go with a beautiful Gen2 Yellow/Orange one I was drawn to, but then the Himalayan 450 arrived at a great price. The F800gs was also a strong contender, but good ones sold quick. However, I did keep my KLX400r for the bush, which I have upgrade plans for, suspension, tank, seat having already done most of the minor running gear. Love it's lowdown grunt & get up n go. Cheers from Downunder, stay safe.
The KLR did have some really nice color combos over the years! The 450 looks like an awesome ride! I need to look into those a little more and make a video on them. Seems like they'd be a great option too. Hard to beat a DRZ/KLX 400 though!!!
When you add a luggage rack to your XR, you will notice the additional weight fairly quickly. I have the Tusk pannier rack (with top rack and sub-frame supports) and the whole kit is fairly hefty. It is solid and crazy strong - but hefty. The rack does provide excellent lift-handles to help pick the bike up. However, for me, the single most important advantage I have with the pannier rack system is the Rotopax fuel cell mounting system I fabricated. I now have a 1gal rotopax cell on each side of my bike (so 2 gallons) plus the 4.7gal Clarke main tank for a total of 6.7 gallons. I haven't tested the range, but it is confidence inspiring when I've wanted to explore a bit more. With a 14T front sprocket and my personal heft, fuel economy is not maximized so I had to create a solution.
That's the rack I've got waiting in storage! I'm glad to hear it's beefy, but I suppose that will mean a little heavier feel. I'm going to use my reckless bag system, but roto tanks on pannier racks would be sweet!
@@SwankyCatProductions You're going to love it! I can confidently take a passenger on the top rack (using a pillion I fabricated) with no problem for the beefy sub-frame. Fitting it on my XR was a bit of a play (I think I even used some longer hardware I had - though everything does come with) So yes, it works out pretty well. The rotopax's stay on and when I'm moving my bike out, I lean against them which is quite handy. As to being able to still use panniers, I have a set of soft-side's (nothing really fancy) that work well for my commute to work. However, if they're loaded much at all, the bike does become a wide (prolly similar to hard-side boxes). I've taken pics of the rotopax mounts to post before (i guess it's not very common which is surprising).
Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. The best bike is the one that puts a smile on your dial. If it gives you what you need then it has achieved the end goal. They have never identified the Unicorn of bikes and so many have tried. What ever does 80% of what you need or want is so close. People lose sight that life is full of compromises. Bikes are no different. If you can afford to have more than one then have one for each category , Road, Trail & Singletrack/ Bush , Adventure. Nothing will ever do it all perfectly. Two down, Shiny side up and have fun.
Merry Christmas to you and yours as well! Agreed! Any bike that gets you out and adventuring is a good one in my book! I agree that there is no one size fits all unicorn. As you said, the best we can do is find a bike that comes close and that puts a smile on our faces. If you find that, keep it and maybe buy a second to help cover the other 20%, or just because life is short and bikes are fun!!! Ride safe friend!
Asa past gen3 klr I would totally recommend a klr gen1 or gen2. Ended up trading it for a souped up Himalayan 411 and totally enjoyed that bike. I was a new rider so didn't care about or really need the power. Just recently I traded in the 411 for a Bear 650 and I am totally enjoying the new bike. The gen3 klr is a fine bike but there is so much more out there now.
Bought my gen 3 Lava Orange KLR because of your reviews👍I like the comfy feel of the KLR✌️as you get older, the more comfy you want to be. You have to choose the bike for your type of riding. I personally have 3….KLR/690 Enduro R/2024 KTM 790 Adventure. If things get tough, I ride the 690. Love all my bikes for different reasons. As long as I’m riding, the smiles keep coming👍
Cool video again..I enjoy your content..hey can I ask a question..i have a 2022 klr650 I was thinking about upgrading the Handlebars..can you recommend a brand and Specific model of bars with the same Bend I prefer 7/8 bars
My 24 KLR is a pretty darn good road bike. Comfortable riding position, huge gas tank and dead simple to maintain. I changed the front fender for a $20 Acerbis and tires are Shinko 705, still good enough on gravel- way good on pavement. It's also comfortable with a passenger cuz of the huge wide seat.
I'm super curious what the KLE 500 is going to look like, and just how ADV-dual sport-ish it will be. Definitely has potential to be a very cool bike, and could be a KLR "killer" of sorts.
Yeah!!! I'm really curious as well. I hope they went more off road oriented than that KLR, which will make the completion between them interesting. My bet is that the KLR will be less expensive and still stick around though.
I can’t not have a KLR. It’s comfort, the huge fuel range and ability to hit some dirt anywhere is too good. I keep a 500 EXC for when I need to hit some jumps, do long wheelies, and go on deep singletrack.
True! Compared to the other two lightweights, the KLR seems almost out of place. However, if you think of it instead as an inexpensive cruiser style bike, all of a sudden it's off road abilities are actually rather impressive!
I weigh 280lbs and mine with crash bars panniers etc has zero issues passing cars uphill dowhill flat ground. I also own 5 other bikes so hardly a klr nut. But I have never understood the "adv bike must outrun a vette and have 90hp" crowd. I have zero issue on gravel etc keeping up with other bikes. Im usually up near the front of the crowd. Spinning constantly doesnt make a bike more efficient. I dont have oil issues either. But my break in procedure was different from recommended. I used to build big block mopar drag racing engines. I broke the klr in the same as those. Run the hell out of it. I rode it hard for 200 miles or more at a time to seat the rings etc. Mine is a 2023 and it has 17k miles and there is no noticeable oil loss between changes
Yeah as much as people (myself included) complain about the KLRs power to weight ratio, it actually has plenty of power for just about anything you need it to do. You may have to run it wide open at times, but that's part of the fun! I also broke mine in rather hard and never noticed a drop missing from my sight glass!
If you liked the wind protection of the gen 3, you would have loved the vstream windshield. Best 100 bucks I ever spent. I was able to move the mounts back to the low setting, and can ride 55 without my helmet face shield down. Now I can hear my earbuds.
I just graduated up to a ‘24 KLR from a CT125 and a Suzuki RV200. I am loving my KLR experience so far. I do hate perceivable oil loss on any four stroke machine, but I knew about that issue entering into the KLR. Just wondering, do the DR’s and XR’s have the same issue? I do know every engine burns oil, but to what extent I guess is the question.
I still have to put a few more miles on both to be sure, but it doesn't seem like either consume anywhere near as much as my gen2 did. I have noticed a puff of blue smoke when I really hammer on them, but it's not enough that I can see any loss in the sight glass/dip stick.
Great video! Thanks for the content. You should check out the Giant Loop Mojavi for a rackless luggage option. Just put it on my Tenere 700, gets the weight off your back and fits snug and secure with no need for the extra weight of the rack. A bit pricey though.
I love reckless bag systems! I've got one that I could install without a rack too, but it's a little large for these bike's fenders. They really are nice though, especially for these builds, since they don't require any side racks that add weight and width to the bikes.
There is no unicorn bike. I do not like the KLR, just to heavy with much weight up high, if I dropped it I would not be able to pick it up. It would be a great bike for interstate travel, going cross country on hwy. The XR and DR are my picks, but I don't know if I could lower the XR enough to work for me. I have lowered my DR and would still like it lower. I like that the DR came with an oil cooler, but you can add one to the XR. I can't believe Honda put such a small tank on the XR giving it no range. Still, no biggy, just get a larger tank. That is what I did with my DR. You are doing a great job on your comparisons. Looking forward to seeing some suspension mods and engine mods on both bikes. You and your family have a great Christmas.
Guess you completely summed it all up in this video in regards to which bike a person should choose when considering one for their personal riding preferences. FYI, I would be happy to fly up and drive one home for safe keeping for you if you need to make some extra space in your garage for another project. I already have my own 650L but like jewelry to women, men can never have enough motorcycles, right?
I'm glad to hear that! Thanks! Haha, true! It's pretty hard to have too many bikes. I wish I had more time to ride mine, but I'm constantly looking at more 🤣. I'll let you know when I need to make some room!
Haha yeah, the Gen2 had an interesting esthetic. I think a few mods, especially the KLR dash, really made it look a bit better. But the Gen3 is my favorite! I've also seen some pretty cool looking gen1s!
I think the first thing a person needs to consider is their first priority. You only have 1-1.2 hours drive to get to your playground (s) … me I travel out of Florida and my playground starts in Wyoming/Montana . Can you imagine taking your XR (as you have it built) vs. the KLR out for 2-3 months of travel? My biggest wish is 6th gear and tubeless tires …
Yeah, the DR is the same way. I'm interested to see how well it does after an upgrade, if it's anything like the XR afterwards, I think I'm really going to like it. I'll bet it would've really helped the KLR too, both on and off road.
@SwankyCatProductions I have owned both a gen2 and xr650l loved both for different reasons sold them for a t7 didn't really like the t7 now I have a vstrom 800de and a kdx200.. looking forward to the upgrade on thr dr650 never rode one but always been on my radar
I love my klr650 but I recently got a KTM390 same horsepower same top speed, but it has rider modes, abs, sixth gear, and it weighs about 100 lbs less. this is my new go to bike.
Hard to go wrong with any of these bikes. I've had a KLR, Versys 300x, Tenere, and others. I currently own a DR and the new Himalayan. All of these bikes were/are great for me except the Tenere (just not the bike for my riding style). I really liked the 300x, great wind protection. But low ground clearance that a bash plate helped remedy. You gave good advice when you said go out and ride each one. What feels good to you is what counts. Get out and ride - so true!!!
True! Yes definitely, as much as I thought I understood all three, it wasn't until I rode them all that it really came into sharp focus. I've always wanted to try the 300x but I think I'm going to end up skipping over it and try the new KLE, if it ever shows up here...
@fvpaquetqc Tenere is a performance bike. You touch the throttle and you GO!!! I'm older and want the "adventure" to be the destination and seeing the scenery along the way. I don't want the "adventure" being riding and man-handling the bike. Tenere is an awesome bike, but doesn't fit my riding enjoyment. Hope this brief explanation answers your question.
@georgeharsin6292 My opinion...the Versys x300. Even though its a 300 it puts out about 40 horse power. Wind protection is also very good.The stock seat was horrible for me. Seat Concepts or Corbin (Corbin is expensive).
Hey neighbor!!! Haha well to be honest this winter riding season has been a bit slow for me, mostly because we keep getting sick, but I'm hoping to get out and enjoy the snow that's on it's way!
I think the decision on the KLR vs the 650 dual sports is all about the riding you intend to do and enjoy. Kawasaki may call the KLR a dual sport, but I think it is really an adventure bike. It is better at eating highway miles and is great on dirt/gravel roads. But, on the single tracks you enjoy it is not so great. (I should have waited until the end to make this comment.)
Ben, I really enjoy your content. Since you have owned both, which was your favorite, the Gen 2 or the Gen 3 KLR? I currently have a KX 125 two stroke, a KLX140 and an MT07. Love all three. I grew up riding an XL250R Honda and had a Gen 2 KLR650. Looking at adding another KLR next spring but torn between the Gen 2 and Gen 3. Just curious what you would go with if you were to buy another KLR. Thanks!
Nice collection! I learned the majority of my dirt skills on an XL250R! Regarding the Gen2 vs Gen3, when I first got the Gen3 I was convinced it handled better and felt easier to ride off road than my Gen2 did. The Gen3 does have a longer swing arm, and an increased rake angle which I'm sure do play some part in that. But now I do find myself wondering how much my improved skills and time with the Tenere 700 in-between the two may have also affected how the two compared in my mind. Aside from the added weight, I really appreciated the updates on the Gen3. It feels a little more ADV than the gen2 did, but that's not for everyone of course. Hope that helps!
I've watch many of your videos. I've also watched hundreds of other videos... all about single track and adventure riding. I want to get a bike this spring but i honestly have no idea which direction to go. I want to do some light adventure riding (ID, WA, OR BDR) but I would be mostly riding local forest service roads and some single track. I have some dirt experience on a variety of bikes ranging from mid 80's XR's up to a kx500. I don't have a ton of road experience and all of my riding was 15 years ago. I originally thought the KLR was the best option but now i'm concerned with the single track stuff i may want to ride. I considered the KTM 500 EXC-F but didn't think it would be great for longer rides such as the BDR.... XR650 seems ideal but the fuel range kind of sucks..... Thoughts on my situation? what would you be considering if you had to choose just 1 bike to do it all.. It's probably important to add that I am a 235lb rider..
" it's not the bike, it's the rider" basically anyone can be happy with any bike if they develop the skills, but you have your channel to consider and just one bike will never be enough to continue growing.
Yeah I suppose that's true to a certain extent. I rode my KLR on 90% of the trails I've taken the DR and XR on. But at my size and skill level, I definitely enjoyed them more on the new bikes. I think the most important thing is understanding the designed intent of a bike and the skills required to ride it in those conditions, or possibly above and beyond when conditions require it.
Adventure touring - KLR. Light dual sporting - DR. Slightly more aggressive dual sporting XR. That said I put 55,000 miles on a DR650. I swapped it for a KTM 690 back in 2016. I have lighter dirt bikes and bigger Adv/Road bikes for when I want something different.
I have not ridden klr w fuel injection. Have a Dr 650. Had a klr 2009. Day on one at dealer. Heavier but that bigger tank I miss and the perfect fit , for me, of the klr
The deals on KLRs can’t be beat as the dealers have tons of KLR to move off the floor to make room for new 2025s. So new ‘24 & even a few new ‘23 are available at bargain prices !!!
Nice! I have owned all your bikes in your stable during my 50yrs of riding enduro's. With the exception of the T7. I recently spent some time on a Honda CRF450RL and within a short period of time I knew this is the bike I have been searching for. It is my unicorn. I will most always have a klr in the garage, but that Honda is something special.
That's awesome! Especially the part about the 450RL. I've always wanted one of those! I kept hoping that they'd make a Rally version, but it's looking like I should stop holding my breath and build one myself... Maybe next season!
All a rally version would do ismake it more expensive and heavy. Add a Small windscreen to headlight and taller gearing and ride the he'll out of it. @@SwankyCatProductions
Good comparison. My love of my gen 2 KLR is emotional at this point. My DR250 is just a fun toy and dirt tool. I’m not sure a DR650 will grow on me like the KLR when I started calling her “she” instead of “it”. Time will tell.
@ Have you looked into where people are making diy rally towers on their own super cheap? They look really good. I’ve seen most of your videos and I think you could do it. It would make for some good content.
After riding a carburetor on the gen 2 then going to the Yamaha super tenere fuel injected bike I ride today it would be hard for me to go to a carburetor bike on a motorcycle. I know my bike is 600lbs and I give up so much . I am currently looking for something else with half the weight.
Yeah, as much as a little more off road ability would be nice, I think if they would've put a little more effort into the highway side of the redesign it would have been an even more incredible deal!
Hey! Inseam length (leg length) is sort of going to be the determining factor. I've been told the slightly lower S model is quite good, and at 5'10" with a 31" inseam my non-S 2022 model fit me ok, so I'd think the S should work for you. Just keep in mind, it will take some work to get used to shifting off to the side to get a good footing, and that the farther over the bike leans, the heavier it gets! I'd say you best bet is to sit on one and see what it's like to try and shift from one leg to the other a few times while on flat level ground. Then think about how well you could do that on uneven and possibly slippery ground. Best of luck and ride safe!!!
My gen 1 is 416 wet, but feels like 816 when picking it up or pushing it around in the garage. Still, there is something about the way she looks at me.
I put lowering links on my Gen 1 and it seems much easier to pick up. Plus my feet are flat on the ground. I still have decent clearance and a good bash plate.
Haha yeah the XR is ridiculously different than the KLR. I actually really wish I'd have gotten a DR between them. As great of a bike as the DR is, the XR just tends to overshadow it.
I acquired a 22 KLR, a 23 KLX and a 24 Triumph Scrambler 400X and my most fun bike of my riding careers th Triumph Scrambler second is the KLX300 and by far my least favorite was the KLR. It’s too tall and too heavy and first gear is way too tall for any fun in the dirt.
@SwankyCatProductions the Scrambler 400 is nimble on and off road, light and can go 80mph as smoothly as a 4 banger. The red line is around 12,000. You should visit the nearest Triumph dealer and give one a test ride. Oh and my salesman, the service mechanic and one of the guys at the Harley dealer next door all had one before I decided to get mine and that was testament enough for me.
I don’t own either, but the KLR is too heavy for dual sport and too unrefined for adventure in my opinion. XR or DR or go with KTM 690 to go lighter. Or jump up to KTM 890 or Aprilla Tuareg 660 for semi-light mid-weight Adventure Bike! The KLR is just an odd inbetweenie compromise for those who can’t afford otherwise.
I think it's more than that. It is definitely heavy for a dual sport, and of course isn't really an "adventure bike" by the usual industry definition. It's kind of the ultimate compromise, and while cost is always going to be part of the equation, I don't think it's the determining factor in a lot of cases. I know plenty of folks who own much larger, more expensive collections than I have and they swear they'll never sell their KLRs.
@@SwankyCatProductions Thanks for the video and reply, but what sort of "ultimate compromise" is it? Price and weight? Technology? I mean, if you want dual-sport and lighter weight, then the 650s are better, right? If you want an adventure bike, then the KTM 890, 790, or the BM
You should go ride a Kawasaki Versys 300 for shits and giggles. They are surprisingly fun for their size and are actually quite comparable to the KLR650s.
You won't get the best of both worlds from any one bike. The KLR has the looks of off road with limited abilities in that arena and not quit the Goldwing of the road either. The XR is not a pure breed dirt bike but does well enough in what I call the mid range of off roading and is just enough on the road to get you to your off road adventure. You have to pick your bike with those in mind and what they are better suited for, either more road worthy or off roading. They have their place in the market.
Didn’t find out till I got caught a hail storm. My KLR 2011 has better protection than I have had on some cruisers. The KLR is more than it appears to be . If nothing else the 6 gallon tank and 50+ miles to the gallon means a whole lot.The best damn thing is when you get yourself into a spot when you have that thought in the back of you mind I sure hope this single cylinder don’t cut out, IT DON’T!!!!!!!!!!! It won’t do everything,but IT WILL GET YOU HOME!!!!!!!!!!I rode the Suzuki,Most dirt oriented,the Honda,little less dirt, The KLR is the best WHAT THE HELL , WHY NOT BIKE, ONLY YOU KNOW what I’m talking about bike out there, and I get that with a KLR.a feeling of security!!!!!!!!😊
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I really like your style, Ben. It was nice seeing you review the great points of the KLR, just like the old days. You really get the KLR-the one-up and two-up comfort, the range, the looks, the reliability, the luggage capacity, and its ok off road ability. I also love the transmission and the fuel delivery. Really, only the weight gets me down so I don't ride it on trails I think I might fall down on. I am considering lowering it, though. I know, that's anathema to a trail rider but I do dirt and rocky roads, mostly, and I don't think it will negatively affect that riding much. Best wishes.
@@mikebetts9677 Hey, thanks! Yeah, it felt good to be talking about the KLRs again. I don't regret lowering my XR one bit. I used to really be against it, but I gained so much more than I ever thought possible and lost very little, other than that tippy feeling. Now I think making your bike fit you and the terrain you ride it on most often, is the only sensible thing to do. The nice thing about it (as long as you don't chop your side stand apart) is that if you don't like it, you can always go back to stock! Let me know what you think if you do lower it and ride safe!!!
The klr content is what brought me here to begin with. I would love to see you get another one some day.
Same. And if one is having a RUclips channel as a primary source of income, one should probably target a bigger audience.
There is an army of KLR nuts.
That being said, love the DR content but don’t watch all - when I see KLR? I click
Ymmv
That's the plan!!! Just waiting for the right one...
I bought a 2024 Klr and hated it. It can’t pass slow vehicles on the highway, it was always low on oil, and it always felt unstable/ top heavy on gravel around corners. It really was good at nothing. Traded for an Africa twin for long rides. Even the heavy Africa twin feels lighter and more stable on gravel. and now I’m going to get a xr650l as a second bike for short day rides
@@Davyflave I weigh 280lbs and mine with crash bars panniers etc has zero issues passing cars uphill dowhill flat ground. I also own 5 other bikes so hardly a klr nut. But I have never understood the "adv bike must outrun a vette and have 90hp" crowd. I have zero issue on gravel etc keeping up with other bikes. Im usually up near the front of the crowd. Spinning constantly doesnt make a bike more efficient. I dont have oil issues either. But my break in procedure was different from recommended. I used to build big block mopar drag racing engines. I broke the klr in the same as those. Run the hell out of it. I rode it hard for 200 miles or more at a time to seat the rings etc. Mine is a 2023 and it has 17k miles and there is no noticeable oil loss between changes
@@SwankyCatProductions I installed the MadStadt windshield that Tim2wheels put on his. It has incredible wind protection! I love the KLR best, I have the green one like you had, Gen 2. If you get a 2014 1/2 or newer they have the better front springs that don’t dive when you brake and the better seat. I’ve logged 300 miles in a day on that stock seat.
People like you who try several similar motorcycles, are the ones who help others to make good decisions about the right motorcycle to purchase. You save us money. Thanks for this video.
I'm glad to hear you find value in my work, thank you!!! That's basically what I set out to do after not finding the info I wanted when I was originally trying to make up my mind between the DR and KLR!!!
This is basically the difference between an adventure bike and a dual sport. Love my klr650
Indeed, it is!
If you only have one bike…and enjoy mild off-roading/backroads but almost never ride single track, dangerously technical trails, but would also hop on the thing and ride it across the country, there’s only one affordable choice for you. The KLR 650.
Exactly my thoughts on the KLR. That's why I think I'll always keep my Gen 2. It's great under 100km/hr up here in Canada.
I'd agree with that.
I would go with the KTM390
@@davidgun6826 I just rode a friend’s Gen 3 KLR 650 Adventure 2300 mi to northern CA from Illinois. It was a challenge, but, over 5 days and 4 nights, doable. Awesome trip. The fairing, a National Cycle V-Stream windshield, a rubber o-ring throttle lock are what made it WAY more comfortable than I think you’d be on the equally powered 390. I’m on my 4th KLR, and you can buy them CHEAP right now-used or new.
@@davidgun6826 as a KLR owner that appreciates it's reliability, simplicity, and maintainability there is no way in hell I'll ever own a KTM product.
I's clear that you have a lot of love for the KLR and it looks like you have room...I think you should add another KLR to your collection!
As soon as I find the right one, that's the plan!
@@SwankyCatProductions Awesome!
One thing that doesn’t get mentioned often is 2-up. My wife preferred my klr650 over my T7, dr650, versys 650, and vstrom 650. My guess is because the seat was wide, there was good length between my backside and the back of the seat so she wasn’t cramped against me and the seat was flat and parallel to the ground so she wasn’t sliding forward into me like on the t7. Heck the only bike she liked more than the KLR was my victory cross country. It helps we are both smaller I guess so that won’t apply to everyone but whatever the reason is, she says it’s the most comfortable adv/dualsport bike for her so Kawasaki did something right getting passenger ergonomics right
Great info there, thank you! We never rode anything other than my KLR (and mostly sport bikes before then) but my wife also liked my KLR and it seemed to work well for us!
I’ve wondered about this a lot. That’s good to know.
Thanks for your input, I've often thought about trading my dr650 in on 800de vstrom. Just to ride my daughter more comfortable..
That’s good to hear. I always ask 2up questions just in case I have a passenger one day. I usually don’t get answers.
What Gen KLR? Was it the factory seat? I have a stock seat on my Gen2.
@ gen 2
This is a wonderful, thoughtful analysis! Ditto to all you said about the KLR Gen3. One other plus that I would mention is the KLR community. There is no better m/c community out there IMHO than all us crazy KLR buffs, yourself included. You contributed so much positive energy to the KLR community with all your KLR videos! Thank you, Ben (and Jerry, too).
Awe, thanks Kawabungah!!! That really means a lot!!! The KLR community is a huge added bonus to any KLR purchase! I've talked to a lot of great people because of the DR and XR content this summer, but I learned so much and talked to so many great people because of my "last minute" gen2 KLR purchase... This channel wouldn't be what it is today without it! Take care and ride safe my friend!
Well said. Having owned First, and second generation KLR’s I fully agree with everything you said. Great video/content. Be safe out there, and enjoy the ride while you can.
Glad to hear that, thanks! You too!
Awesome video! I want a dual sport for my first bike and this really helped me choose between the Honda and the Kawasaki. It was surprisingly difficult finding information directly comparing them.
I love my KLR650. But I agree life is too short to argue, enjoy life!
Indeed! Any bike you can ride and enjoy is a good bike!
I owned both a gen 1 KLR and an early DR back in the 90’s. Now I’m retired in my early 60’s and looking to get either a KLR or a DR. I’ve ridden a gen 2 KLR and a recent DR (both used bikes I was able to ride for over an hour each). They are soooooo different. I originally sold my KLR to get a more dirt focused bike, but then wound up selling the DR because I wanted something better on the road. At the time I was interested in F650 BMW’s, but I never bought anything to replace that DR. So now I’m in the same place, sort of, but I’m also older and less strong. The big conflict is the bikes relative weights. The lower weight of the DR combined with its better ft wheel control on loose gravel are big selling points for the DR, but the road manners of the KLR are as much better than the DR as the DR is better in the dirt. Finally, once again, I’m considering an older g650 or F650 single. Unfortunately Dakar versions are virtually unobtainable. I wish this presenter would get an older g650gs for comparison. I’m currently completely torn.
I hear ya, I'm there with truck shopping
Check out the Cfmoto ibex or Himalayan 450
Because of you, TDubs kid and a couple others, I purchased my first street legal bike about 6 months ago - a 2024 TW200, which was intended to be a bike for me and the kids to rip around our yard and for me to run small errands around our semi-rural town.
I now find myself riding further away from my house than originally intended. I already have an urge for a larger bike, while keeping the TW of course. Looking at a KLR650s, Kawasaki Verseys or a Honda Transalp.
I’m really leaning towards the later two because I like the excitement of a dual cylinder but I keep coming back to the KLR because if it’s rock solid reputation.
I don’t plan on off-roading, other than on our property as I have a side x side and four wheeler for that hobby.
Decisions, decisions…
That's awesome!!! I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the TW! Haha, it's funny how when you get one, all of a sudden you need two or three 🤣. I'm always on the lookout!
I currently own a kawasaki Brute Force 750, and Suzuki vstrom dl1000. I'm considering either the Klr650 or the dr650 to bridge the gap between those two worlds. My plans are to do more motocamping/exploring. Your information has been very helpful!
Thanks!
Man, I hear ya, I'm 70 and recently traded in my 2022 KLR650, hated to see it go, but my riding skills aren't what they were !
Haha yeah, I was a lot more ambitious with mine when I was in my 20s. Now that I'm a little wiser and my joints hurt a bit more in my 30s, I much prefer single tracking bikes that around triple my body weight 🤣
For the DR, instead of a rally tower, you could install the acerbis 6.6 gallon tank and a tall madstad screen. You’d not feel much at all top or bottom at speed. I’m currently using the 5.3 tank with a madstad. It feels like an ultralight ADV the way it’s currently setup. 2022 dr650”
Nice! I almost purchased the 6.6 when I saw them on sale... I just wasn't sure if the additional weight and fuel sloshing around would throw me off. Maybe I'll still give it a go after some suspension work!
I put in progressive springs and I over extended the spacer by 1/4"
Feels great. $114 best mod I ever did! As always, just want more power!
Nice!!!
The IMS 4 gallon tank is the best thing I ever did for my XR650L
I prefer my KLR 650 now that I'm getting older. Just cruising keeping it slow.
I LOVE the XR! But the KLR is pretty hard to beat, especially since it's kind of in a class all its own!
Nice overview. The wind protection is certainly what I missed most when I sold my KLR. That, and it’s such a relaxed riding position.
Thanks! Yeah, it certainly is!
It’s crazy to me to see you add windscreen’s and try to make the DR and XR more comfortable for the road when you already had a KLR
He is trying for an all in one perfect bike and you won't get that from any bike. These bikes fit in between the goldwing and the dirt bike that have knobby tires. Each one leaning to one side or the other.
@ I’ve owned 2 Gen 1 KLRs 2 Gen 2 KLR’s a XR650L a DR650 and a V Strom 650 in search of the perfect low dollar ADV bike and there really is no such thing. Out of all them I think the closest to it was the Gen 1 KLR. Especially after I added the Waypoint Rally Fairing. The most fun was definitely the XR650 though. How Ben still has the stock tank on the XR is beyond me though lol. My next bike will be the Gen 3 KLR just for the sake of saying I had all 3 generations.
The KLR worked, but I wanted something lighter!
Great video, Anyone that has owned a KLR knows exactly what you're talking about. I bought my Gen. 1 2005 2 weeks before I did a Mexico trip down to Belize and back to Tampa round-trip solo On a learner's permit. 20 years later I would do it again in a heartbeat on a KLR!
NICE! That's awesome!!!
Nice summary. You hit all the points about why I love my KLR. For more off road riding I use my XT250.
Thanks! Yeah, it's definitely nice to have a smaller bike for when you're feeling more (or maybe less) ambitious.
Funny to me on the thoughts about KLR looks - I've had the opposite feeling :-). Thanks for the video, still trying to sort out what might be on the list...
I did the dark smoke screen last year after seeing yours on your old bike and man is that boy dark! It makes the night commutes sketchy, especially since I’ve luckily dodged two deer narrowly
On the Gen2? What height did you go with? I don't recall exactly, but I believe I was always looking over it, unless I really hunched down. It's definitely too dark to see much of anything through.
All great reliable tried and true fun bikes! Nothing is perfect. All shining in different areas. Looking forward to seeing what time tells for the KOVE 450, 450 MT, and DRZ
4S! Safe riding!
Indeed!!! Yeah I'm pretty interested to see how those new bikes do after a couple thousand miles!
I think the problem is the grass is always greener and everything is a compromise so you have to decide what works best for you. Its really hard. I keep going back snd forth from adventure bikes to dual sports because i like the aspects of both. Probably the best bike for me is my T7 i currently have but thst foesnt stop me from lusting for other bikes. Once this small adv segment really gets going I can see leaving thr T7 for something a little less heavy and less powerful so that when im alone i dont have to worry about having issues with a big heavy bike. The dr and xr are definitely unicorns in that respect. Good power and good offroad ability. I do miss my dr650. I think a good modern alternative is the Himalayan 450. If you take off all of the extras it comes with (crash bars, center stand, etc) its getting close to 400lbs which i think is roughly the sweet spot for a smaller adv with 40-50hp. Im still hoping for a mini tenere, maybe 500cc single cylinder.
Yeah, there's always give and take when it comes to switching any bike, but especially from dual sport to adv. As nice as one is for one reason, the other is just as nice for another haha. The new lightweight ADVs may help with some of that though!
This is me in a nutshell. I’m always wanting to try the bike that’s not in my carport! I want to look at the T7, vstrom 800, etc…. I told my stepson that is the biggest indicator of bike addiction.
I bought my KLR as an all around bike- one I could ride anywhere at any time. I could mod it to my preference and enjoy the open road and the gravel road as well. After a while I found myself riding on the highway more that the gravel roads so I decided to get a luxury highway cruiser . Comfort and power over long distances. Now as I look at the KLR I look at is as a dirt bike. However, the KLR isn’t a dirt bike. So I’m thinking of getting a smaller ( lighter) dirt bike to fill that need. So as I still watch your channel the XR is probably where I’m heading. With my Goldwing for the highway and the XR for off-road I’ll have the best of both worlds. Maybe get a larger tank or a rear desert tank to provide the distance needed.
That sounds like an awesome plan to me!!! If you want fun, the XR is the bike to get! I think the DR will be close, once modded, but still no XR!
I totally get this. I still miss my 2013 Gen2 KLR. I had more fun on that bike, than any other bike I've owned. It could do so many things.
Yeah, I don't know exactly what it was but I've never had as much fun on a bike as I did my Gen2. I think it was just the first taste of adventure riding and exploring new trails, but it sure was a great bike for that!
Hello Ben from your neighbor state!!! I like the point you brought up about the klr and weight. After owning an 08 ktm xc300 and an 08 wr250r (still have the wr) along with my klr, I actually prefer the klr along with all of the mods I've done. The klr seems more planted to me even offroad, and i can actually manage the weight pretty well. Ride safe, and stay swanky!!
Howdy neighbor! Yeah, the KLR seems to carry it's weight low enough that it doesn't feel top heavy, just sort of sturdy. Which can be really nice!
bikes are like potato chips...you cant have just one. 3 in the garage now. and I agree with you, I like to stand around and look at them. lol.
Haha yes, indeed they are! Yeah? Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one!
I've owned both an XR 650 and 3 Klr 650s. I currently own a gen 3 KLR. No doubt the XR is a better dirt bike. But as an ADV bike it falls way short. Of course you can add a bunch of mods, spend a bunch of dollars and make it better for traveling but I took the other fork in the road. I modified the KLR, to work better in the dirt because it's such a comfortable all day kind of ride. Mods include fork and shock upgrades as well as pipe, snorkel and ecu mods. Now it handles good, power delivery is better. It is still not as good off road as the XR or DR, but I can strap on enough camping gear for a two week tour to where ever, ride down unimproved dirt roads, ( heart in throat) and arrive at the camp site with beer and a cooler. Can't to that on either the XR or DR. Spend two weeks camping off of either of those and you'll be looking to take an add for sale out on Craigs List. Don't get me wrong I love to ride off road over rocks, sand, mud,v up crazy hills and scare myself while grinning all the while. But that's a job for my WR450, no way I'd want either the XR or DR for serious off road. Just sayin...
Fair enough! It definitely all comes down to what your goals are and where you're willing to make sacrifices.
I love my KLR Gen3 lava orange and will probably keep it till it dies, but, 2 weeks ago I bought a new '24 T700 and have 4 boxes of goodies to install tomorrow. Now I have to flip a coin on which one to ride. I think the T7 on even days and the KLR on the odd days. Ben, you need to load up a bike and head to Colorado or somewhere on a week long moto camping trip, viewers love that type of content.
Haha yeah, when you've got two good bikes like that it can be hard to decide which to take! I've always wanted to ride dual sports in Colorado!
I am a bit sad I didn't go with a beautiful Gen2 Yellow/Orange one I was drawn to, but then the Himalayan 450 arrived at a great price. The F800gs was also a strong contender, but good ones sold quick.
However, I did keep my KLX400r for the bush, which I have upgrade plans for, suspension, tank, seat having already done most of the minor running gear. Love it's lowdown grunt & get up n go.
Cheers from Downunder, stay safe.
The KLR did have some really nice color combos over the years! The 450 looks like an awesome ride! I need to look into those a little more and make a video on them. Seems like they'd be a great option too. Hard to beat a DRZ/KLX 400 though!!!
When you add a luggage rack to your XR, you will notice the additional weight fairly quickly. I have the Tusk pannier rack (with top rack and sub-frame supports) and the whole kit is fairly hefty. It is solid and crazy strong - but hefty. The rack does provide excellent lift-handles to help pick the bike up.
However, for me, the single most important advantage I have with the pannier rack system is the Rotopax fuel cell mounting system I fabricated. I now have a 1gal rotopax cell on each side of my bike (so 2 gallons) plus the 4.7gal Clarke main tank for a total of 6.7 gallons. I haven't tested the range, but it is confidence inspiring when I've wanted to explore a bit more. With a 14T front sprocket and my personal heft, fuel economy is not maximized so I had to create a solution.
That's the rack I've got waiting in storage! I'm glad to hear it's beefy, but I suppose that will mean a little heavier feel. I'm going to use my reckless bag system, but roto tanks on pannier racks would be sweet!
@@SwankyCatProductions You're going to love it! I can confidently take a passenger on the top rack (using a pillion I fabricated) with no problem for the beefy sub-frame. Fitting it on my XR was a bit of a play (I think I even used some longer hardware I had - though everything does come with) So yes, it works out pretty well. The rotopax's stay on and when I'm moving my bike out, I lean against them which is quite handy. As to being able to still use panniers, I have a set of soft-side's (nothing really fancy) that work well for my commute to work. However, if they're loaded much at all, the bike does become a wide (prolly similar to hard-side boxes). I've taken pics of the rotopax mounts to post before (i guess it's not very common which is surprising).
Thanks, very nice video and channel its really helpful and interesting. Best regards from Sweden.
Thank you, I'm really glad to hear that! Best regards from the US!
Started to watch a lot more when you got the DR650... To me it's the GOAT.
It's definitely the most sensible and probably the most capable out of all three. I suspect that it'll be my favorite after the right mods too.
Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
The best bike is the one that puts a smile on your dial.
If it gives you what you need then it has achieved the end goal.
They have never identified the Unicorn of bikes and so many have tried.
What ever does 80% of what you need or want is so close.
People lose sight that life is full of compromises.
Bikes are no different.
If you can afford to have more than one then have one for each category , Road, Trail & Singletrack/ Bush , Adventure.
Nothing will ever do it all perfectly.
Two down, Shiny side up and have fun.
Merry Christmas to you and yours as well! Agreed! Any bike that gets you out and adventuring is a good one in my book! I agree that there is no one size fits all unicorn. As you said, the best we can do is find a bike that comes close and that puts a smile on our faces. If you find that, keep it and maybe buy a second to help cover the other 20%, or just because life is short and bikes are fun!!! Ride safe friend!
Asa past gen3 klr I would totally recommend a klr gen1 or gen2. Ended up trading it for a souped up Himalayan 411 and totally enjoyed that bike. I was a new rider so didn't care about or really need the power. Just recently I traded in the 411 for a Bear 650 and I am totally enjoying the new bike. The gen3 klr is a fine bike but there is so much more out there now.
True, there are going to be a lot of very good bikes with fairly similar specs in the next year or so!
Bought my gen 3 Lava Orange KLR because of your reviews👍I like the comfy feel of the KLR✌️as you get older, the more comfy you want to be. You have to choose the bike for your type of riding. I personally have 3….KLR/690 Enduro R/2024 KTM 790 Adventure. If things get tough, I ride the 690. Love all my bikes for different reasons. As long as I’m riding, the smiles keep coming👍
Yeah? Cool!!! I like my 701 as well, but it's a totally different experience than being on a KLR. Both are enjoyable, just for very different reasons!
Cool video again..I enjoy your content..hey can I ask a question..i have a 2022 klr650 I was thinking about upgrading the Handlebars..can you recommend a brand and Specific model of bars with the same Bend I prefer 7/8 bars
My 24 KLR is a pretty darn good road bike. Comfortable riding position, huge gas tank and dead simple to maintain.
I changed the front fender for a $20 Acerbis and tires are Shinko 705, still good enough on gravel- way good on pavement.
It's also comfortable with a passenger cuz of the huge wide seat.
Nice! Yeah, it's hard to beat a KLR for that!
I'm super curious what the KLE 500 is going to look like, and just how ADV-dual sport-ish it will be. Definitely has potential to be a very cool bike, and could be a KLR "killer" of sorts.
Yeah!!! I'm really curious as well. I hope they went more off road oriented than that KLR, which will make the completion between them interesting. My bet is that the KLR will be less expensive and still stick around though.
Great deals out there on used KLR‘s!!!!!!💪
Yeah! The Gen3s are incredibly reasonable!
I can’t not have a KLR. It’s comfort, the huge fuel range and ability to hit some dirt anywhere is too good. I keep a 500 EXC for when I need to hit some jumps, do long wheelies, and go on deep singletrack.
True! Compared to the other two lightweights, the KLR seems almost out of place. However, if you think of it instead as an inexpensive cruiser style bike, all of a sudden it's off road abilities are actually rather impressive!
I weigh 280lbs and mine with crash bars panniers etc has zero issues passing cars uphill dowhill flat ground. I also own 5 other bikes so hardly a klr nut. But I have never understood the "adv bike must outrun a vette and have 90hp" crowd. I have zero issue on gravel etc keeping up with other bikes. Im usually up near the front of the crowd. Spinning constantly doesnt make a bike more efficient. I dont have oil issues either. But my break in procedure was different from recommended. I used to build big block mopar drag racing engines. I broke the klr in the same as those. Run the hell out of it. I rode it hard for 200 miles or more at a time to seat the rings etc. Mine is a 2023 and it has 17k miles and there is no noticeable oil loss between changes
Yeah as much as people (myself included) complain about the KLRs power to weight ratio, it actually has plenty of power for just about anything you need it to do. You may have to run it wide open at times, but that's part of the fun! I also broke mine in rather hard and never noticed a drop missing from my sight glass!
A lot of the things you said towards the end are why I decided to sell my T7 and stick with my DRZ.
Big bikes can be fun off road, but mostly just to see what you can do with them. Lighter bikes are just fun!
Good review !
Thanks!!!
Try a Gen 1 KLR some day!
As soon as I find the right one!!!
If you liked the wind protection of the gen 3, you would have loved the vstream windshield. Best 100 bucks I ever spent. I was able to move the mounts back to the low setting, and can ride 55 without my helmet face shield down. Now I can hear my earbuds.
Nice, that's awesome!
Got my KLR today. Hope you get another.
Nice! I'm on the lookout for a nice gen1!
I just graduated up to a ‘24 KLR from a CT125 and a Suzuki RV200. I am loving my KLR experience so far. I do hate perceivable oil loss on any four stroke machine, but I knew about that issue entering into the KLR. Just wondering, do the DR’s and XR’s have the same issue? I do know every engine burns oil, but to what extent I guess is the question.
I still have to put a few more miles on both to be sure, but it doesn't seem like either consume anywhere near as much as my gen2 did. I have noticed a puff of blue smoke when I really hammer on them, but it's not enough that I can see any loss in the sight glass/dip stick.
Great video! Thanks for the content. You should check out the Giant Loop Mojavi for a rackless luggage option. Just put it on my Tenere 700, gets the weight off your back and fits snug and secure with no need for the extra weight of the rack. A bit pricey though.
I love reckless bag systems! I've got one that I could install without a rack too, but it's a little large for these bike's fenders. They really are nice though, especially for these builds, since they don't require any side racks that add weight and width to the bikes.
There is no unicorn bike. I do not like the KLR, just to heavy with much weight up high, if I dropped it I would not be able to pick it up. It would be a great bike for interstate travel, going cross country on hwy. The XR and DR are my picks, but I don't know if I could lower the XR enough to work for me. I have lowered my DR and would still like it lower. I like that the DR came with an oil cooler, but you can add one to the XR. I can't believe Honda put such a small tank on the XR giving it no range. Still, no biggy, just get a larger tank. That is what I did with my DR. You are doing a great job on your comparisons. Looking forward to seeing some suspension mods and engine mods on both bikes. You and your family have a great Christmas.
I'm glad to hear that, thank you! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!!!
Guess you completely summed it all up in this video in regards to which bike a person should choose when considering one for their personal riding preferences. FYI, I would be happy to fly up and drive one home for safe keeping for you if you need to make some extra space in your garage for another project. I already have my own 650L but like jewelry to women, men can never have enough motorcycles, right?
I'm glad to hear that! Thanks! Haha, true! It's pretty hard to have too many bikes. I wish I had more time to ride mine, but I'm constantly looking at more 🤣. I'll let you know when I need to make some room!
I deeply regret selling my KLR. I had a 1997. Absolute blast. I was repulsed by the Gen after that, but the new ones are awesome.
Haha yeah, the Gen2 had an interesting esthetic. I think a few mods, especially the KLR dash, really made it look a bit better. But the Gen3 is my favorite! I've also seen some pretty cool looking gen1s!
I regret not buying a KLR as my first bike. Love my bike, but would love it more if i was able to do light off-road.
Yeah it is a bit like a comfy road cruiser, with some impressive off-road abilities!
I think the first thing a person needs to consider is their first priority. You only have 1-1.2 hours drive to get to your playground (s) … me I travel out of Florida and my playground starts in Wyoming/Montana . Can you imagine taking your XR (as you have it built) vs. the KLR out for 2-3 months of travel?
My biggest wish is 6th gear and tubeless tires …
Baaah! It wouldn't be all that bad on the XR, I'd be drinking coffee and pumping gas just as much as I'd be in the saddle 🤣
The only problem with the klr650 is its so under sprung for the weight.. but then again so are all the Japanese dual sports and adventure bikes
Yeah, the DR is the same way. I'm interested to see how well it does after an upgrade, if it's anything like the XR afterwards, I think I'm really going to like it. I'll bet it would've really helped the KLR too, both on and off road.
@SwankyCatProductions I have owned both a gen2 and xr650l loved both for different reasons sold them for a t7 didn't really like the t7 now I have a vstrom 800de and a kdx200.. looking forward to the upgrade on thr dr650 never rode one but always been on my radar
I love my klr650 but I recently got a KTM390 same horsepower same top speed, but it has rider modes, abs, sixth gear, and it weighs about 100 lbs less. this is my new go to bike.
Nice! I'm really interested to try the new version of that bike, looks like fun!
Hard to go wrong with any of these bikes. I've had a KLR, Versys 300x, Tenere, and others. I currently own a DR and the new Himalayan. All of these bikes were/are great for me except the Tenere (just not the bike for my riding style). I really liked the 300x, great wind protection. But low ground clearance that a bash plate helped remedy.
You gave good advice when you said go out and ride each one. What feels good to you is what counts. Get out and ride - so true!!!
Whats your riding style that the tenere wasnt good in? Super technical terrain? Low speed?
True! Yes definitely, as much as I thought I understood all three, it wasn't until I rode them all that it really came into sharp focus. I've always wanted to try the 300x but I think I'm going to end up skipping over it and try the new KLE, if it ever shows up here...
@fvpaquetqc Tenere is a performance bike. You touch the throttle and you GO!!! I'm older and want the "adventure" to be the destination and seeing the scenery along the way. I don't want the "adventure" being riding and man-handling the bike. Tenere is an awesome bike, but doesn't fit my riding enjoyment. Hope this brief explanation answers your question.
Hi, would the KLR or the Versys x300 work better for mostly pavement and gravel roads in your opinion?
@georgeharsin6292 My opinion...the Versys x300. Even though its a 300 it puts out about 40 horse power. Wind protection is also very good.The stock seat was horrible for me. Seat Concepts or Corbin (Corbin is expensive).
You should get an xt250. Highly recommend if you enjoy the tw200
I've never tried one, but I did have lots of fun on my XL250R!
Hello from northern Wisconsin. Your tougher than I am, my bikes have been put away in November.
Hey neighbor!!! Haha well to be honest this winter riding season has been a bit slow for me, mostly because we keep getting sick, but I'm hoping to get out and enjoy the snow that's on it's way!
I think the decision on the KLR vs the 650 dual sports is all about the riding you intend to do and enjoy. Kawasaki may call the KLR a dual sport, but I think it is really an adventure bike. It is better at eating highway miles and is great on dirt/gravel roads. But, on the single tracks you enjoy it is not so great. (I should have waited until the end to make this comment.)
Haha, sounds like we're in agreement!
Ben, I really enjoy your content. Since you have owned both, which was your favorite, the Gen 2 or the Gen 3 KLR? I currently have a KX 125 two stroke, a KLX140 and an MT07. Love all three. I grew up riding an XL250R Honda and had a Gen 2 KLR650. Looking at adding another KLR next spring but torn between the Gen 2 and Gen 3. Just curious what you would go with if you were to buy another KLR. Thanks!
Nice collection! I learned the majority of my dirt skills on an XL250R! Regarding the Gen2 vs Gen3, when I first got the Gen3 I was convinced it handled better and felt easier to ride off road than my Gen2 did. The Gen3 does have a longer swing arm, and an increased rake angle which I'm sure do play some part in that. But now I do find myself wondering how much my improved skills and time with the Tenere 700 in-between the two may have also affected how the two compared in my mind. Aside from the added weight, I really appreciated the updates on the Gen3. It feels a little more ADV than the gen2 did, but that's not for everyone of course. Hope that helps!
I've watch many of your videos. I've also watched hundreds of other videos... all about single track and adventure riding. I want to get a bike this spring but i honestly have no idea which direction to go. I want to do some light adventure riding (ID, WA, OR BDR) but I would be mostly riding local forest service roads and some single track. I have some dirt experience on a variety of bikes ranging from mid 80's XR's up to a kx500. I don't have a ton of road experience and all of my riding was 15 years ago. I originally thought the KLR was the best option but now i'm concerned with the single track stuff i may want to ride. I considered the KTM 500 EXC-F but didn't think it would be great for longer rides such as the BDR.... XR650 seems ideal but the fuel range kind of sucks..... Thoughts on my situation? what would you be considering if you had to choose just 1 bike to do it all..
It's probably important to add that I am a 235lb rider..
There’s gas stations everywhere. Your prolly not gonna ride Dakar. First bike? Klx300 or drz400. But a klr650 is a good choice.
I was in the habit of trading in a bike every two years or so. My '23 Traveler will always be in my garage.
That's awesome!
" it's not the bike, it's the rider" basically anyone can be happy with any bike if they develop the skills, but you have your channel to consider and just one bike will never be enough to continue growing.
I get what you are saying, but I think that's an oversimplified view.
Yeah I suppose that's true to a certain extent. I rode my KLR on 90% of the trails I've taken the DR and XR on. But at my size and skill level, I definitely enjoyed them more on the new bikes. I think the most important thing is understanding the designed intent of a bike and the skills required to ride it in those conditions, or possibly above and beyond when conditions require it.
Im from back in the day when the seats were below the tank, and I really hate the feel of sitting on a level rail.
Yeah, I feel ya!
Adventure touring - KLR. Light dual sporting - DR. Slightly more aggressive dual sporting XR. That said I put 55,000 miles on a DR650. I swapped it for a KTM 690 back in 2016. I have lighter dirt bikes and bigger Adv/Road bikes for when I want something different.
Could V-Strom or Transalp parts be used to add comfort and space.
I have not ridden klr w fuel injection. Have a Dr 650. Had a klr 2009. Day on one at dealer. Heavier but that bigger tank I miss and the perfect fit , for me, of the klr
Yeah the range and weight are probably two of the biggest differences between the two. That and wind protection I suppose.
The deals on KLRs can’t be beat as the dealers have tons of KLR to move off the floor to make room for new 2025s. So new ‘24 & even a few new ‘23 are available at bargain prices !!!
Yeah! I've seen that too! My dealer has a ridiculous amount!
Nice! I have owned all your bikes in your stable during my 50yrs of riding enduro's. With the exception of the T7. I recently spent some time on a Honda CRF450RL and within a short period of time I knew this is the bike I have been searching for. It is my unicorn. I will most always have a klr in the garage, but that Honda is something special.
That's awesome! Especially the part about the 450RL. I've always wanted one of those! I kept hoping that they'd make a Rally version, but it's looking like I should stop holding my breath and build one myself... Maybe next season!
All a rally version would do ismake it more expensive and heavy. Add a Small windscreen to headlight and taller gearing and ride the he'll out of it. @@SwankyCatProductions
Good comparison. My love of my gen 2 KLR is emotional at this point. My DR250 is just a fun toy and dirt tool. I’m not sure a DR650 will grow on me like the KLR when I started calling her “she” instead of “it”. Time will tell.
Haha, yeah I don't think I realized how much I liked my gen2 until after it was gone. So many great rides and adventures on that bike...
The XR looks like it has a Pope Hat!
"Hey hey, it's da Pope!"
Bob and Tom ruined me in the 90's
Haha yeah it takes some getting used to, but it's really grown on me now!
i live in indiana, the good places to go are all at least 2 hours so for me the klr 650 just makes the most sense
Agreed, if you're going to be on the road, why not enjoy it?!
I really wish you would do an ARX rally tower on your dr650 and then compare to the old klr
I wish I would too 🤣. Maybe next season if things are going well!
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Have you looked into where people are making diy rally towers on their own super cheap?
They look really good. I’ve seen most of your videos and I think you could do it.
It would make for some good content.
great vid. on my 3rd xr. the 24 is my lifer.
Nice! It's definitely one of the most fun bikes I've ridden!
After riding a carburetor on the gen 2 then going to the Yamaha super tenere fuel injected bike I ride today it would be hard for me to go to a carburetor bike on a motorcycle. I know my bike is 600lbs and I give up so much . I am currently looking for something else with half the weight.
Ha ha yeah, for as much as people complain about EFI, it's pretty nice to know all you need to do is turn the key and push start!
Good morning from Maine 🌲
Top of the morning!
Love my 2008 klr650, just wish they had a 6th gear.. and was more highway friendly.
Yeah, as much as a little more off road ability would be nice, I think if they would've put a little more effort into the highway side of the redesign it would have been an even more incredible deal!
Great video
Thanks
Ben
Glad to hear you enjoyed it, thanks!
Hello Mr. Swanky Cat! I'm think about getting a klr but not sure if I'm the right height. I'm 5'8" tall. Could you give me any advice? Thank you!!!
Hey! Inseam length (leg length) is sort of going to be the determining factor. I've been told the slightly lower S model is quite good, and at 5'10" with a 31" inseam my non-S 2022 model fit me ok, so I'd think the S should work for you. Just keep in mind, it will take some work to get used to shifting off to the side to get a good footing, and that the farther over the bike leans, the heavier it gets! I'd say you best bet is to sit on one and see what it's like to try and shift from one leg to the other a few times while on flat level ground. Then think about how well you could do that on uneven and possibly slippery ground. Best of luck and ride safe!!!
My gen 1 is 416 wet, but feels like 816 when picking it up or pushing it around in the garage. Still, there is something about the way she looks at me.
Haha yeah, they're always heavier on their side aren't they! My next KLR will be a gen1!
"something about the way she looks at me" 😂😂 and this is why wives sometimes get jealous of motorcycles! Haha
I put lowering links on my Gen 1 and it seems much easier to pick up. Plus my feet are flat on the ground. I still have decent clearance and a good bash plate.
Found ya because klr,stayed cause your doing stuff on older bikes and not so much the modern rocket ships.
Put 30k miles on a 2nd gen klr, many adventures. Switched to an xr650l, never going back. KLR should be a twin cylinder bike.
Haha yeah the XR is ridiculously different than the KLR. I actually really wish I'd have gotten a DR between them. As great of a bike as the DR is, the XR just tends to overshadow it.
Love my gen 3 klr 🔆😊
Glad to hear that!
Admittedly I stopped watching when the KLR was sold only reason I've checked out other videos was to see your carplay mod.
I acquired a 22 KLR, a 23 KLX and a 24 Triumph Scrambler 400X and my most fun bike of my riding careers th Triumph Scrambler second is the KLX300 and by far my least favorite was the KLR. It’s too tall and too heavy and first gear is way too tall for any fun in the dirt.
What do you like so much about the Scrambler?
@SwankyCatProductions the Scrambler 400 is nimble on and off road, light and can go 80mph as smoothly as a 4 banger. The red line is around 12,000. You should visit the nearest Triumph dealer and give one a test ride. Oh and my salesman, the service mechanic and one of the guys at the Harley dealer next door all had one before I decided to get mine and that was testament enough for me.
I don’t own either, but the KLR is too heavy for dual sport and too unrefined for adventure in my opinion. XR or DR or go with KTM 690 to go lighter. Or jump up to KTM 890 or Aprilla Tuareg 660 for semi-light mid-weight Adventure Bike! The KLR is just an odd inbetweenie compromise for those who can’t afford otherwise.
I think it's more than that. It is definitely heavy for a dual sport, and of course isn't really an "adventure bike" by the usual industry definition. It's kind of the ultimate compromise, and while cost is always going to be part of the equation, I don't think it's the determining factor in a lot of cases. I know plenty of folks who own much larger, more expensive collections than I have and they swear they'll never sell their KLRs.
@@SwankyCatProductions Thanks for the video and reply, but what sort of "ultimate compromise" is it? Price and weight? Technology? I mean, if you want dual-sport and lighter weight, then the 650s are better, right? If you want an adventure bike, then the KTM 890, 790, or the BM
You should go ride a Kawasaki Versys 300 for shits and giggles. They are surprisingly fun for their size and are actually quite comparable to the KLR650s.
Yeah? I always wanted to, but never came across the right deal. Maybe someday!
You won't get the best of both worlds from any one bike. The KLR has the looks of off road with limited abilities in that arena and not quit the Goldwing of the road either. The XR is not a pure breed dirt bike but does well enough in what I call the mid range of off roading and is just enough on the road to get you to your off road adventure. You have to pick your bike with those in mind and what they are better suited for, either more road worthy or off roading. They have their place in the market.
Indeed they do!!!
I hope you got that hat as part of their free deal
I'll sell ya mine. Many of the same things you had on it with just over 2k on it. 2023. Grey
Nice! I think my next KLR will have to be a gen1 though...
I have an '01 KLR and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
I think a gen1 will be my next KLR.
@@SwankyCatProductions I also recommend a gen 1. Best looking and best off road performance of all three.
ill trade you my gen3 for your DR
Haha that would be an interesting video! I think my next KLR has to be a Gen1 though...
Dont lie, the KLR is underpowered and the suspension slurps, i have one.
Get a Gen1 KLR
Someday!!!
If you have to place a bible as a prop, is it really about a personal relationship with your creator...
Didn’t find out till I got caught a hail storm. My KLR 2011 has better protection than I have had on some cruisers. The KLR is more than it appears to be . If nothing else the 6 gallon tank and 50+ miles to the gallon means a whole lot.The best damn thing is when you get yourself into a spot when you have that thought in the back of you mind I sure hope this single cylinder don’t cut out, IT DON’T!!!!!!!!!!! It won’t do everything,but IT WILL GET YOU HOME!!!!!!!!!!I rode the Suzuki,Most dirt oriented,the Honda,little less dirt, The KLR is the best WHAT THE HELL , WHY NOT BIKE, ONLY YOU KNOW what I’m talking about bike out there, and I get that with a KLR.a feeling of security!!!!!!!!😊
Yep, mine always got me through as well!