Orthodox is spiritual due to God spirit present. As a child growing up in my Orthodox church l loved all the icons, the choir service its love towards God, when l became an Altarboy my love towards God was unquenchable that made me even serve in the altar when got old to teach the young ones too. God is so beautiful if you truly let yourself be in God control cause your spirit isn't like any others cause if you ask a priest, nun, monk or any others they will tell you they also let God and Jesus steer them towards heaven. If you don't believe me try it, you might find peace too.
Papal infallibility not being a thing in the Orthodox Church means every doctrine that is developed in your church is prone to error (and most likely developed in error) because you guys don’t believe the Holy Spirit leading the clergy in charge of making these important doctrine can prevent error which technically is blasphemous.
@@user-xm5tj5sd3bYou have that completely wrong. We believe the Holy Spirit leads the church itself and protects it from falsehoods, through councils and tradition. We dont believe sinners can be infallible. Its a paradox, and is meant to be.
@@ChrisShockz how are councils exactly led, and who is leading them? Also, how do you compose an infallible book with a fallible magisterium? Doesn’t even make sense logically. Are St. Paul, St. Peter, st mark sinners? Yes. Does that make their writings in scripture fallible?
I love my "orthodox" brothers and sisters in Christ. I love the church as a whole. I also love my "Catholic" brothers and sisters in Christ. I love my "Protestant" brothers and sisters in Christ. I have had a revelation from God in recent months that tells me the Church (all Christians) need to come together as one under the one true God that revealed himself in the flesh and died on the cross for the sins of the world, raised to life on the 3rd day and conquered death once and for all. Whoever that believes in him shall not parish but have eternal life. I understand there are ritualistic differences throughout different denominations but I believe coming together would make our lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth smile upon us and glorify his holy name. God bless you sir.
The only thing about the Catholic religion is that you all pray to Mother Mary and the saints, but the Bible clearly states that we should pray to Jesus and through Him, God listens to our prayers. I’m not trying to judge in no way so please don’t take it the wrong way, I just don’t understand? Can you explain this to me please and thank you?
@debrajones4010 much like when you ask someone to pray for you during a trying time Catholics ask the saints and the mother Mary to intercede for them in that same way.
also, i have been inspiring to some furries and got them out of situations that are unhealthy such as polygamy for example. It seems fit tht my calling rn is to be a light in the dark for people tht need it. I am trying but there are days where it is very very difficult to do tht.
@@daimionkaizafox ok, thats a great answer even tho theres nothing holding somone for to be a furry but aight 😂 the first step i would recommend you is remove the pfp and choose something you really love instead of this. besides having anxiety or a fur suit fetish what is holding you?
@@AleksandarArambasic the furry pfp isnt a fetish. I first found the furry fandom through wholesome means. My pfp is a representation of my personality. There is a nsfw side but i keep tht private.
As a Catholic I actually see this as one of the very strengths of Catholicism. You can definetly see different people and different traditions but at the core the Church is one.
Well I don't see the boundaries since you can be a muslim and deny Christ's deity and still be somehow linked to the body of Christ because you believe in one God. This will be my last comment, I'm not here to argue. Anybody who seeks shall find.
@@Isfean No it isn't because most of what you refer as tradition today developed over time within a cultural medium. The vestment, the liturgy, veneration of icons and even God's energy- essence distinction. You can afford to hold this view of Orthodoxy that you hold because the church for past 1500 years has remained predominantly within a geographical location. Catholics on the other hand have interacted with more cultures and offcourse will be influenced by those cultures.
As a Catholic I have to agree. You go to an orthodox liturgy and you know what you're gonna get. You go to a catholic mass and you don't know if you're gonna get an organ, guitars, drumkit, funny priest, reverent priest? It's a guessing game.
I agree with what he is saying, but even with those flaws in the Catholic Church, the truth is the truth therefore I will not leave the Catholic Church no matter the flaws because the truth remains the same, I am Catholic not because of the people, the practices, etc. I am Catholic because Jesus is present there in the Eucharist. hope we Catholics and orthodox come to unity one day🙏🏻
Former catholic 😂😂 as a orthodox I wouldn't accept you , if you can leave from a true church of christ to another true church , you stand for nothing you will soon leave for something else ,
I am Roman Catholic and i do understand what he is saying. I do see our church becoming too comfortable with alternatives to…not sure how to word this right…quality BUT I also understand how the leniency in some areas like the music at mass can help reach a extremely large variety of people
As a Roman catholic. I'm not sure what he is referring to. My church has latin mass everyday. And during the mass have the full latin rite during the consecration. And we sre big on iconography. Because the church is a reminder of heaven andnits beauty.
@@theremix54 a big problem is that there are not enough priests. This stuff use to be more common. But my 1 priest is the pastor of 2 churches and 3 prisons and our hospital.
@@KarmicSaltyes Francis has. He’s literally killing it at the seminary level and not allowing it in most dioceses, wake up to the evil that is Jorge Bergoglio.
I love the songs being sung in the church which makes followers mind directed towards god through songs is wonderful….. song is such that directs to where and who it is directed and is best way to hear and feel god….. ❤
It’s hard for me to think my Catholic religion is a graceless cult. If tomorrow I became an Orthobro I would still have a hard time denying the faith of the Catholics as more like a break in communion rather than a heresy.
It isn't bro, be careful of the misinformed people causing further divisions. the separation is from political egos and some theological differences of opinion. Check out ecumenism. We are of the same faith, have faith we will be one unified church again. Follow Jesus and where the Holy Spirit takes you, not that of the opinion of men, even mine, do some of your own research into the history of the church and what Catholic means. God bless.
Forgive me, this may come off as rude especially when compared to the other commenter above me: ecumenism is a heresy for a VERY GOOD REASON! The reason is this: To subscribe to some ecumenist idea like branch theory (or something like it) is to deny the obviously apparent differences between Catholic and Orthodox ecclesiology. Both institutions are EXCLUSIVIST to each other, despite modernizing efforts. As an orthodox Christian, I must say to you, both churches CANNOT be true at the same time due to theology, especially ecclesiology. Please, take your time in earnest prayer, I will pray that you come to understand the truth.
@@r4ngerr4ge32 be careful of your pride, brother. you might want to pray for understanding also. you're right though, there is only one truth but who are you or I to assert we have it? and ecumenism is far from being a heresy, it is simply the aim of creating unity in the church, if your patriarchs can do this you should be able to open your own heart toward it. It is the wish of Jesus Himself that we come together, asserting tribal pride and arrogance only hinders that goal. God bless. edit: I want to say something. on my journey I prayed for a church and Christ showed me the RCC and it was only confirmed to be the right decision for me since then on multiple occasions, but I don't deny the possibility that the Holy Spirit led all you Orthodox Christians to your churches. I trust His judgment and will so we should not attempt influence or manipulate him on his journey but he should pray and trust in God to guide him. I have wondered if the schism was part of His plan for some reason, who are we to guess why? we can only wait and see what comes of it. but I'm tired of seeing the lies, vitriol and hate towards Catholics from blatant misunderstandings, it is not Christ like. I see so much pride from Orthodox people on comments on YT and it's a shame.
I’m new and I’m trying find out what way to go. All I know is I believe in god Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I love learning the rosary and I don’t yet properly understand the different Christian faiths or quite where I belong yet. If anyone can offer any advice I will be so grateful 🙏
It’s not. Not all, but a lot of the differences between that exist between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, already existed centuries before the Great Schism between the West and the Est.
It shall help you to understand Scripture if you mark not only what is spoken, or written, but ask yourself of whom, to whom, with what words, what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances, considering what goes before and what follows after.”
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I went along to a Catholic mass recently in my home town. On the one hand I was impressed that it was so well attended, with lots of families with children, and generally a good atmosphere. On the negative side, the service was actually not too dissimilar to the Baptist church I used to go to, a structured service, but fairly light, liturgically, not quite informal, but straying fairly close.
I went to my brother's wedding a year or two ago at a Catholic church and it honestly barely looked any different from protestant services I attended growing up. Some of the music was even identical.
It’s a sad reality. That’s why the Latin mass is so SO important. Not like the new order masses… they do resemble more and more like Protestant services each year
It would seem to the outsider, that Orthodox adheres excessively to outward symbols and rituals of expressions of faith that are expected to be followed rigidly, as signs of faith. Wouldn’t that just be a new set of Mosaic Laws?
Not followed rigidly as signs of faith but aids to help us in our worship and stay on track on the way with Christ. I've been Orthodox for about three years, previously Baptist, and I feel that I've been given a big open space to move around in, even though there are clear boundaries - but boundaries are good and necessary. Going back to the evangelical protestant world would feel like climbing back into a box - even though I have the utmost respect for my many friends still in that tradition and also gratitude for the way that tradition nurtured me through the years leading up to my conversion to Orthodoxy.
I am a convert too Catholicism and attend the Latin Mass. I understand what he’s saying when it comes to the Novus Ordo; but in the Mass (Latin rite) that has been the bedrock of the faith for well over a millennium; no. The pontiff is the seat of Peter and this matters!
@@kimphilby7999 I think it’s best to clarify the significance of the seat of Peter and its biblical origins. Christ established Peter’s position when He commissioned him by his renaming after Peter’s declaration. Examples: The continual singling out of Peter in scripture; with the angel at the tomb, Jesus’s undoing of his three denials and Christ commissioning him, Paul’s referencing his authority, etc… Also, the historical fact of the church going to the leading bishop on authority when the apostle John was still alive. My point, is that there is a strong biblical argument. It’s also congruent with the old covenant and a high priest; ie, Moses. Jesus references the “seat of Moses” as an authority. The pope is the vicar. He himself can personally error but the Holy Spirit protect the position when it comes to faith and morals. Example: What has been made dogmatic has never been undone in the 2000 yr history of the church; no matter who was the pope. Christ IS The Church and this includes the papacy. God bless you.
@@daddydaycareah3994 there is something that i don't understand and i wish for you to explain it better for me: if the Pontif claims to be the descendant of Peter through apostolic succession, how can he do that if Peter was Bishop of Antioch, and not of Rome?
@@player1playforfun that’s a great question and I’ll do my best to answer. The successor of Peter has to do with the position of Peter, not of where, but of whom. Jesus didn’t establish Peter as a bishop of a place but of his church
John chv14 v 6 And Jesus answered, I Am the Way the Truth and the Life no one comes to the Father Except through me Acts ch 4 v12 Neither is there Salvation in Any other for there is No other Name under Heaven given Amongst Men Whereby Ye Must be Saved .Gods word.
As a Catholic I very much understand and respect this opinion, still while I highly value iconography and chants, I like that Catholicism offers other forms of practicing Christianity while not throwing tradition out of the window like Protestant tend to do.
What the Vatican has never understood is that if you take something and continually change it - which the RCC routinely does - then what you end up with is not what you started out with. So they can state all they want that they are "the church that Jesus founded" when Jesus would not recognize - let alone approve - of what the RCC now is.
I believe the God gives blessings to the Catholic church, the Orthodox Church, the Assyrian Church of the east and the Coptic churches. Jesus wanted his body to be whole and as humans we have found ways to divide ourselves. It will take a great amount of humility on all sides for us to be united as One. It will take the Holy Spirit working through the leity to make this happen. As a potential convert to Orthodoxy or Catholicism I appreciate both. All Glory be to Jesus Christ.
Though it’s not polite to say, the church isn’t divided. It’s one like it always was one (Orthodox). There’s no point in giving someone legitimacy for leaving it. Otherwise, we can call Arius and those who followed him a church too.
The catholic church has many avenues to know, reach, relate, worship Jesus, we all have unique degrees of holiness as God's people. The options or variety give God's people options or choice in how they desire to honour God Almighty.
I completely agree. You never know what you’re going to get walking into a typical Latin parish especially. It may be everything from the Tridentine Mass to a ‘high’ Novus Ordo with Gregorian chant and Latin, to a folk guitar Mass, Life Teen with a ‘praise band’, clown Mass, etc. It’s really become not much different than Anglicanism in this sense, an eclectic mix of rites that pleases everyone, while all claiming that it’s a ‘unified’ church under the pope.
Catholicism has a little bit of everything because it is universal. Eastern Orthodoxy is a pale shadow by comparison, having only the Byzantine rite within her communion. Catholicism is truly the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Eastern Orthodoxy is Holy and Apostolic, but they are neither One, nor Catholic (universal).
@@EasternChristian333 is Truth and Catholicity determined solely by a plurality of liturgical rites or adherence to the Faith? Catholicity has nothing to do with which church has larger numbers or more ethnic diversity or rites. According to St Vincent, it’s holding fast to the faith that which has been believed everywhere, always and by all”. So yes, the Orthodox are indeed Catholic.
@@user-oh3tl7je1q Except they cannot be since they do not hold to the filioque, immaculate conception, papal supremacy, etc. These are all Apostolic teachings and the Catholic Church has a plethora of sources to help you see these things taught by Councils, by the Church Fathers (East and West) as well as even some more contemporary Orthodox saints (who are still saints in the EO mind, despite their belief in Purgatory, Filioque, etc). And Orthodoxy cannot be the true faith by your own proposed litmus test as Orthodoxy has never been of one mind on much of anything. They have no central principal to rally around. The canons of the Church down to morality are all up to the individual interpretation of a bishop. There is no "final" authority in Orthodoxy. You might argue an ecumenical council but then again, you have not been able to call one since departing from Rome.
@@EasternChristian333 what you said is not accurate or representative of the Orthodox Church. Papal Supremacy, the most dividing issue separating the two communions, came about as a development in the Roman Church (among other dogmas) mainly in the 11-12th centuries as a result of the Gregorian Reform. Pope Gregory VII and his successors radically transformed the Papacy in the West. The Pope had his own army and could depose kings and excommunicate entire kingdoms. Yet, the Latins claim that the Orthodox Church has an issue with Caesaropapism?! The Roman Church has changed so many teachings and practices it would take me forever to list them all. The Orthodox Church has been more faithful to apostolic tradition. Our Church doesn’t “bless” sodomy like your church. Why if I may ask are you even commenting on this Orthodox channel? Are you a troll?
The weakness is the claim that it's true. Because when asked to demonstrate the truth claims, we are told to have faith. Faith is not a reliable pathway to truth.
Where does it say in the Bible that I have to go through first communion in order to be "allowed" to participate in communion? Doesbt simply believing Jesus is the Son of God simply enough? Also why doesn't the Catholic church talk about the Holy Spirit??
Mar mari stated that the Orthodox Church is like the straight path to god and that Catholicism is like a mother keeping her children under her roof. He said both ways are leading to god
If one colour is good enough to represent this earth it would be less complicated…..but all colours existed so each can survive. If simplified is enough to serve god it is great but if people needs requires different methods and different methods are used to keep people close to god is also in service to god…. One right intention is all in service to god, not absolute restrictions cuz with absolute force and restrictions bring stronger rejection and destruction and nature constantly displays by earthquakes ..etc which is caused by a big force
What I don't like about the Orthodox Church is that it doesn't consider the Virgin Mary the Immaculate Conception when she clearly is look at Lady of Lourdes, also I have felt the presence of Jesus A taste of him and I could not imagine having all of God within my womb so Mary is very special I smell roses all the time and I feel my mother's presence... I also can smell other Saints such as Saint Therese and I could feel her presence as well, the Orthodox Church doesn't recognize Saints after a certain period of time which is not right
1 Corinthians 14:33 King James Version 33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 2 Timothy 2:15 King James Version 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
All we have to do is accept Jesus Christ and profess Him as our saviour. He saves us regardless of chants, icons and all the other stuff. Jesus is a jealous God and doesn't share his glory with other 'saints' living or dead.
Raised a catholic but left as a teen. Never understood why catholism was so bad until studying scripture and understanding confessing to a priest who has no authority to forgive sins, meant all those sins can ONLY be forgiven by Yeshua/Jesus.
There is no iconography in the scriptures No iconography or partiular kind of singing in the teachings of Jesus Christ or Paul. JESUS warned against teaching which adds or make the traditions of men equivalent to scripture.
The Orthodox Church is wounded. They only have 220k members. Catholicism has 1.3 billion followers. Rome was the epicenter in handling all the heretical issues that came out of the east. We have a parish in every community of the world. We are responsible for building the Western world in terms of education hospitals and universities. We are the champion of life's and we are the greatest giver of charity.
As a Eastern Catholic I am with you 99% of the way here. The only thing I couldn't get behind was your numbers. Where did you get the idea that there are only 220k members of Orthodoxy? Eastern Orthodoxy is literally the second largest Christian denomination in the world. They have hundreds of millions of members, not a couple hundred thousand.
I will look into this. Sounds ritualistic to me. I went to my wife church Catholic and was being fed the word. I asked for a Bible. No Bibles. I want to read and test the spirit and see if its in alignment. They looked at me like I was crazy. Also i felt nothing in there nothing 😅 Holy Spirit
They’re not preferences. They’re all THE Christianity. There’s just a hierarchy. Though my heart is central to me being alive, my whole body is what what makes me
@@evangelus3289 By this logic both the Catholics and the Orthodox are big trouble because what each call tradition today developed over time. You merely saying our own development is more consistent than yours
...what did Jesus say to one of His female followers,?🤔 she was asking Jesus to tell her sister to help her with the serving, Jesus reprimanded Martha, because He enjoyed having His followers clinging on His every word, as does God enjoy us when we lean on His Word and His promises💁♀️💞🌿🕊🌈🌻🙋♀️
Thats why im leaning away from ortodoxy because the center is icons and not Christ i just need him not a icon of him i cannot forget the second comandment
I love everything about orthodoxy but camnot get into iconography. God says no graven images . Nor can i justify praying to a saint over jesus himself it makes no theological sense
God prohibits "graven" images, not images themselves. God even commands the creation of images/statuary with the ark of the covenant and with the building of the great temple. Don't fall for the weak protestant arguments. Just like they argue against the Hail Mary and whine about vain repetition. The keyword is VAIN, not repetition. Jesus Himself commanded us to pray the Our Father. To use the protestant logic we can only pray it once in our entire lives. Once we pray it a second time we have repeated a prayer and have become vain. And if they call that argument absurd then they must prove how many times a prayer can be repeated until it becomes vain. 2? 3? 7? They can't answer that because their arguments are foolish, ahistorical, and self refuting.
Idols are a no no. Icons are fine. Humans themselves are an icon of God. We are made in his image. Christ is the perfect icon, the perfect image of God. Mankind are flawed icons. By uniting with Christ we become unflawed icons, though still not perfect as only God and Christ are perfect.
I'm Roman Catholic and married to an Orthodox. We pray every day, use candles, we clean our house with incense, use holy oil for food...I understand about the difference❤
Only correct in the context of the post concillor church. Post Trent & before the 2nd Vatican Council, the Western Catholic Church wasn't a liturgical & doctrinal fruit salad. There was universal conformity, with only cultural variation in expression.
The Catholic Church was passed down from Christ! To Peter, then to the Popes, down through the ages. It's Christ's Church. The split between Catholism and Orthodox is truly tragic. Especially considering when the core beliefs and mediums of worship are essentially the same.
As time went by, scripture was joined by tradition. If tradition doesn't line up with scripture, what's it doing there? Icons, God said to not have graven images and to not bow down to them. We've gotten away from the ten commandments, the sabbath, Mariology, the priesthood of the believer (Mark 1615-20) Jesus passed a pure bride to us, who will he meet on his return?
@@TheMOV13 Sorry, but the Gospels were all completed in the 1st century, John being 94 or 95 AD. The letters of Paul by CA 65AD, he was killed 65 AD, Peter was before John, James was also early. Tradition evolved slowly, 2ndC to today.
@@regtaylor1163 The canon of scripture was decided upon in the late 300s, before that time there was no agreed form of the New testament that we enjoy using today. The faith and the practice of the church before that time was decided largely by oral tradition, handed down from the apostles. Tradition first, scripture later.
@@TheMOV13 The Canon was formalized in the 4th C. The canon being which books are included which ones were not. But: Like the rest of the New Testament, the four gospels were written in Greek. The Gospel of Mark probably dates from c. AD 66-70, Matthew and Luke around AD 85-90, and John AD 90-110. Letters of Paul 45-65 A.D. How could the letters of Paul be written in the third century, when he was executed mid third century? That's dumb. Also, the tradition was the writings of the church fathers, students of the apostles.
That would be a problem if that were the case, of course. This is the centre and foundation of our faith, would you agree with the following expressions? "I believe in one God, The Father almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, Of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, The Only Begotten Son of God, Born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, True God from true God, Begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father; Through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation He came down from heaven, And by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, And became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, He suffered death and was buried, And rose again on the third day In accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven And is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory To judge the living and the dead And his kingdom will have no end. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified, Who has spoken through the prophets. I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins And I look forward to the resurrection of the dead And the life of the world to come. Amen.
We literally read from the Scripture every day. You can go look at an Orthodox calendar and there is a daily Scripture reading for every day of the year.
We have the Byzantine Catholic Church that is no different than orthodoxy. But what the Catholic church has that orthodoxy doesn’t is the 6 other rites that are equally as historic and valid. Such as the eastern Syriac rite that speak the same language as Jesus.
The Catholic Church really lost a lot of the faithful when the Second Vatican Council changed the Mass. It became lukewarm. I'm lucky to have a Latin Mass here in New Mexico that follows the tradition. But I also would like to see an Orthodox Mass now that there is a reunification.
From what I hear yes and the Greek Orthodox doesn’t agree on their stances this is why it’s not the one true church… they can’t agree on anything. It’s all ethnic. If a Maronite Catholic bishop said something like that about a war pope Francis would not allow it.
Orthodox is spiritual due to God spirit present. As a child growing up in my Orthodox church l loved all the icons, the choir service its love towards God, when l became an Altarboy my love towards God was unquenchable that made me even serve in the altar when got old to teach the young ones too. God is so beautiful if you truly let yourself be in God control cause your spirit isn't like any others cause if you ask a priest, nun, monk or any others they will tell you they also let God and Jesus steer them towards heaven. If you don't believe me try it, you might find peace too.
Papal infallibility not being a thing in the Orthodox Church means every doctrine that is developed in your church is prone to error (and most likely developed in error) because you guys don’t believe the Holy Spirit leading the clergy in charge of making these important doctrine can prevent error which technically is blasphemous.
@@user-xm5tj5sd3bYou have that completely wrong. We believe the Holy Spirit leads the church itself and protects it from falsehoods, through councils and tradition. We dont believe sinners can be infallible. Its a paradox, and is meant to be.
@user-xm5tj5sd3b are you a Catholic? If so, how is Pope Francis doing?
@@ChrisShockz how are councils exactly led, and who is leading them? Also, how do you compose an infallible book with a fallible magisterium? Doesn’t even make sense logically. Are St. Paul, St. Peter, st mark sinners? Yes. Does that make their writings in scripture fallible?
@@viktoralexanderyakimov3936 I hope he’s doing good God bless
Glory to Jesus Christ ☦️
Glory forever!
I love my "orthodox" brothers and sisters in Christ. I love the church as a whole. I also love my "Catholic" brothers and sisters in Christ. I love my "Protestant" brothers and sisters in Christ. I have had a revelation from God in recent months that tells me the Church (all Christians) need to come together as one under the one true God that revealed himself in the flesh and died on the cross for the sins of the world, raised to life on the 3rd day and conquered death once and for all. Whoever that believes in him shall not parish but have eternal life.
I understand there are ritualistic differences throughout different denominations but I believe coming together would make our lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth smile upon us and glorify his holy name.
God bless you sir.
Convet to the Orthodox Church, then.
Convert to Orthodoxy! ❤
The only thing about the Catholic religion is that you all pray to Mother Mary and the saints, but the Bible clearly states that we should pray to Jesus and through Him, God listens to our prayers. I’m not trying to judge in no way so please don’t take it the wrong way, I just don’t understand? Can you explain this to me please and thank you?
@debrajones4010 much like when you ask someone to pray for you during a trying time Catholics ask the saints and the mother Mary to intercede for them in that same way.
4 different types of prayer. Read Paul's writing. @@debrajones4010
Who is this guy? He has a very pleasing voice and I wanna hear him speak more!
Thts my old teacher from Saint Katherine's College Fr. Andrew Cuneo. He is an amazing guy!
@@daimionkaizafox Why are you then a furry?
also, i have been inspiring to some furries and got them out of situations that are unhealthy such as polygamy for example. It seems fit tht my calling rn is to be a light in the dark for people tht need it. I am trying but there are days where it is very very difficult to do tht.
@@daimionkaizafox ok, thats a great answer even tho theres nothing holding somone for to be a furry but aight 😂 the first step i would recommend you is remove the pfp and choose something you really love instead of this. besides having anxiety or a fur suit fetish what is holding you?
@@AleksandarArambasic the furry pfp isnt a fetish. I first found the furry fandom through wholesome means. My pfp is a representation of my personality. There is a nsfw side but i keep tht private.
As a Catholic I actually see this as one of the very strengths of Catholicism. You can definetly see different people and different traditions but at the core the Church is one.
To me seems just an all people pleaser, which if you read the new testament, neither Jesus nor the apostoles were.
@@Isfean I mean, Catholic Church also has its own boudaries, point is within those boudaries there's room for charisms to grow!
Well I don't see the boundaries since you can be a muslim and deny Christ's deity and still be somehow linked to the body of Christ because you believe in one God.
This will be my last comment, I'm not here to argue. Anybody who seeks shall find.
I agree as someone considering catholic faith
@@Isfean No it isn't because most of what you refer as tradition today developed over time within a cultural medium. The vestment, the liturgy, veneration of icons and even God's energy- essence distinction. You can afford to hold this view of Orthodoxy that you hold because the church for past 1500 years has remained predominantly within a geographical location. Catholics on the other hand have interacted with more cultures and offcourse will be influenced by those cultures.
Lord Jesus Christ is with us. Glory be to Lord Jesus Christ. Lord Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. Amen 🛐☦️
Orthodoxy or death
Jesus Christ conquers
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You’re silly
Amen 🙏☦️❤️
As a Catholic I have to agree. You go to an orthodox liturgy and you know what you're gonna get. You go to a catholic mass and you don't know if you're gonna get an organ, guitars, drumkit, funny priest, reverent priest? It's a guessing game.
Don't exchange the glory of god to worship man even if it's a Catholic church
As a former Roman Catholic, I know exactly what he is getting at.
As a 0-400ad Christian there are many differences in all the countries/Churches and I'm not gonna leave the universal Church because of that.
@@ar2ro969orthodoxy isn't really leaving for the most part
The only thing dividing orthodoxy from Catholicism is simply the Pope and his authority
I agree with what he is saying, but even with those flaws in the Catholic Church, the truth is the truth therefore I will not leave the Catholic Church no matter the flaws because the truth remains the same, I am Catholic not because of the people, the practices, etc. I am Catholic because Jesus is present there in the Eucharist. hope we Catholics and orthodox come to unity one day🙏🏻
Former catholic 😂😂 as a orthodox I wouldn't accept you , if you can leave from a true church of christ to another true church , you stand for nothing you will soon leave for something else ,
What corruption? Why not get rid of it
Statues were rejected by the early Church
We dont have Statues only Icons that are Painted Pictures☝🏻☦️❤️
@RafaEl-qn6ep are you Roman Catholic
@@AleksandarArambasic Lord bless you ❤️🙏🕊️✝️
@@SeekTheCross thank you. He you too ❤️☦️🙏🏻
What a beautiful and gracious soul i aspire in this.
I am Roman Catholic and i do understand what he is saying. I do see our church becoming too comfortable with alternatives to…not sure how to word this right…quality
BUT I also understand how the leniency in some areas like the music at mass can help reach a extremely large variety of people
As a Roman catholic. I'm not sure what he is referring to. My church has latin mass everyday. And during the mass have the full latin rite during the consecration. And we sre big on iconography. Because the church is a reminder of heaven andnits beauty.
This is quite rare on the world stage. Most Catholic churches are not like this, and do not offer latin mass. I love Catholicism, but it is rare.
@@theremix54 a big problem is that there are not enough priests. This stuff use to be more common. But my 1 priest is the pastor of 2 churches and 3 prisons and our hospital.
It's not about lack of priests, Francis has gone out of his way to persecute the Latin mass. Vast majority of catholic services now are novus ordo.
@@therealkingbaldwin no he hasn't
@@KarmicSaltyes Francis has. He’s literally killing it at the seminary level and not allowing it in most dioceses, wake up to the evil that is Jorge Bergoglio.
True that ☦️ I attest to that as a former Catholic and now Orthodox 🙏☦️
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I love the songs being sung in the church which makes followers mind directed towards god through songs is wonderful….. song is such that directs to where and who it is directed and is best way to hear and feel god….. ❤
Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel 🫶 Fantastic preacher
This is not Mar Mari Emmanuel. Mari Emmanuel also is not Orthodox
@@distracted900 I never said Bishop Mar Mari is in the video. Bishop Mar Mari is Orthodox. I’m thankful he’s doing well.
@@GordonGartrell27 He is not Orthodox. He has never has been, and has never claimed to be a bishop of the Orthodox Church
@@distracted900 He's not Greek Orthodox, but he is Orthodox. Amazing preacher
@@GordonGartrell27 How you do define "Orthodox"?
So, if I buy an icon from a catholic store, is it good enough to be presented as a gift to an orthodox peer?
Depends on the icon. Don't use a sacred heart one or post schsmatics saint.
@@tcritchfeld481Iconoggaphy is not according tp the teachings of Jesus Christ.
It’s hard for me to think my Catholic religion is a graceless cult. If tomorrow I became an Orthobro I would still have a hard time denying the faith of the Catholics as more like a break in communion rather than a heresy.
It isn't bro, be careful of the misinformed people causing further divisions. the separation is from political egos and some theological differences of opinion. Check out ecumenism. We are of the same faith, have faith we will be one unified church again. Follow Jesus and where the Holy Spirit takes you, not that of the opinion of men, even mine, do some of your own research into the history of the church and what Catholic means. God bless.
Forgive me, this may come off as rude especially when compared to the other commenter above me: ecumenism is a heresy for a VERY GOOD REASON!
The reason is this:
To subscribe to some ecumenist idea like branch theory (or something like it) is to deny the obviously apparent differences between Catholic and Orthodox ecclesiology. Both institutions are EXCLUSIVIST to each other, despite modernizing efforts.
As an orthodox Christian, I must say to you, both churches CANNOT be true at the same time due to theology, especially ecclesiology.
Please, take your time in earnest prayer, I will pray that you come to understand the truth.
@@r4ngerr4ge32 be careful of your pride, brother. you might want to pray for understanding also. you're right though, there is only one truth but who are you or I to assert we have it? and ecumenism is far from being a heresy, it is simply the aim of creating unity in the church, if your patriarchs can do this you should be able to open your own heart toward it. It is the wish of Jesus Himself that we come together, asserting tribal pride and arrogance only hinders that goal. God bless.
edit: I want to say something. on my journey I prayed for a church and Christ showed me the RCC and it was only confirmed to be the right decision for me since then on multiple occasions, but I don't deny the possibility that the Holy Spirit led all you Orthodox Christians to your churches. I trust His judgment and will so we should not attempt influence or manipulate him on his journey but he should pray and trust in God to guide him. I have wondered if the schism was part of His plan for some reason, who are we to guess why? we can only wait and see what comes of it. but I'm tired of seeing the lies, vitriol and hate towards Catholics from blatant misunderstandings, it is not Christ like. I see so much pride from Orthodox people on comments on YT and it's a shame.
I’m new and I’m trying find out what way to go. All I know is I believe in god Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I love learning the rosary and I don’t yet properly understand the different Christian faiths or quite where I belong yet. If anyone can offer any advice I will be so grateful 🙏
It’s not. Not all, but a lot of the differences between that exist between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, already existed centuries before the Great Schism between the West and the Est.
He just says that before Chalcedon the only true Church is the Byzanite Church.
That’s a fair set of observations. But Catholicism is exceptionally ethnically and culturally diverse.
It shall help you to understand Scripture if you mark not only what is spoken, or written, but ask yourself of whom, to whom, with what words, what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances, considering what goes before and what follows after.”
That's right..
This is absolutely amazing and illuminating!
My favorite was watching ALL OF the previous GENTLEMEN, I wish I knew who he was! *On the truly importance of MARRIAGE AND WHAT IS SYMBOLIZES TO YOUR CHILD, OUR YOUTH, THE WORLD, BUT MOST IMPACTFUL WITHIN OURSELVES! As the love and companionship and friendship and respect is honor. His devotion and his commitment is truly real from loving me unconditionally. his loyalty his soul his heart and his mind are divinely connected and Genuinely aligned with mine! He has never wavered his compassion or his commitment for us and our very strong yet also delicate bond as one. Completely devoted companion’s who truly love and honor with compassionate care for one another can achieve the highest level’s of Absolute Love both together and within thy self. As God intended for all of us!*
And this is true salvation and happiness!
From my marriage I have felt the way God Loves Us! This is how I have succeeded in life in every aspect of my soul and mind and heart!
But without that I would truly feel hopeless and alone, unwanted and unloved! MOST IMPORTANT UNWORTHY! MY MARRIAGE AS HE SAID VERY MUCH SYMBOLIZES THE DEVOTION GOD HAS FOR HIS CHILDREN, ALL HIS CHILDREN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM!
I went along to a Catholic mass recently in my home town. On the one hand I was impressed that it was so well attended, with lots of families with children, and generally a good atmosphere. On the negative side, the service was actually not too dissimilar to the Baptist church I used to go to, a structured service, but fairly light, liturgically, not quite informal, but straying fairly close.
I grew up Baptist and the mass is not the same as a Baptist Sunday service
I went to my brother's wedding a year or two ago at a Catholic church and it honestly barely looked any different from protestant services I attended growing up. Some of the music was even identical.
It’s a sad reality. That’s why the Latin mass is so SO important. Not like the new order masses… they do resemble more and more like Protestant services each year
It would seem to the outsider, that Orthodox adheres excessively to outward symbols and rituals of expressions of faith that are expected to be followed rigidly, as signs of faith. Wouldn’t that just be a new set of Mosaic Laws?
Not followed rigidly as signs of faith but aids to help us in our worship and stay on track on the way with Christ. I've been Orthodox for about three years, previously Baptist, and I feel that I've been given a big open space to move around in, even though there are clear boundaries - but boundaries are good and necessary. Going back to the evangelical protestant world would feel like climbing back into a box - even though I have the utmost respect for my many friends still in that tradition and also gratitude for the way that tradition nurtured me through the years leading up to my conversion to Orthodoxy.
I am a convert too Catholicism and attend the Latin Mass. I understand what he’s saying when it comes to the Novus Ordo; but in the Mass (Latin rite) that has been the bedrock of the faith for well over a millennium; no. The pontiff is the seat of Peter and this matters!
So,you are giving Peter's seat,more credit than the church?
@@kimphilby7999 I think it’s best to clarify the significance of the seat of Peter and its biblical origins. Christ established Peter’s position when He commissioned him by his renaming after Peter’s declaration. Examples:
The continual singling out of Peter in scripture; with the angel at the tomb, Jesus’s undoing of his three denials and Christ commissioning him, Paul’s referencing his authority, etc…
Also, the historical fact of the church going to the leading bishop on authority when the apostle John was still alive.
My point, is that there is a strong biblical argument.
It’s also congruent with the old covenant and a high priest; ie, Moses.
Jesus references the “seat of Moses” as an authority.
The pope is the vicar. He himself can personally error but the Holy Spirit protect the position when it comes to faith and morals.
Example:
What has been made dogmatic has never been undone in the 2000 yr history of the church; no matter who was the pope.
Christ IS The Church and this includes the papacy.
God bless you.
@@daddydaycareah3994 there is something that i don't understand and i wish for you to explain it better for me: if the Pontif claims to be the descendant of Peter through apostolic succession, how can he do that if Peter was Bishop of Antioch, and not of Rome?
@@player1playforfun that’s a great question and I’ll do my best to answer. The successor of Peter has to do with the position of Peter, not of where, but of whom. Jesus didn’t establish Peter as a bishop of a place but of his church
John chv14 v 6 And Jesus answered, I Am the Way the Truth and the Life no one comes to the Father Except through me Acts ch 4 v12 Neither is there Salvation in Any other for there is No other Name under Heaven given Amongst Men Whereby Ye Must be Saved .Gods word.
One Church One Faith
As a Catholic I very much understand and respect this opinion, still while I highly value iconography and chants, I like that Catholicism offers other forms of practicing Christianity while not throwing tradition out of the window like Protestant tend to do.
Not all Protestant denominations reject tradition
I love God so very much, I miss Him.
Iconography is great. The levels of worship in the iconography can be the breaking point.
Not according to scripture.
What the Vatican has never understood is that if you take something and continually change it - which the RCC routinely does - then what you end up with is not what you started out with. So they can state all they want that they are "the church that Jesus founded" when Jesus would not recognize - let alone approve - of what the RCC now is.
I’m Roman Catholic and have icons on my wall. I love both iconography and statues 🥰.
The Catholic form of iconography is statues.... so our iconography is consistent 😂
Not true.
I believe the God gives blessings to the Catholic church, the Orthodox Church, the Assyrian Church of the east and the Coptic churches. Jesus wanted his body to be whole and as humans we have found ways to divide ourselves. It will take a great amount of humility on all sides for us to be united as One. It will take the Holy Spirit working through the leity to make this happen. As a potential convert to Orthodoxy or Catholicism I appreciate both. All Glory be to Jesus Christ.
Though it’s not polite to say, the church isn’t divided. It’s one like it always was one (Orthodox). There’s no point in giving someone legitimacy for leaving it.
Otherwise, we can call Arius and those who followed him a church too.
The catholic church has many avenues to know, reach, relate, worship Jesus, we all have unique degrees of holiness as God's people. The options or variety give God's people options or choice in how they desire to honour God Almighty.
I start to love the ortodox way more and more...
I completely agree. You never know what you’re going to get walking into a typical Latin parish especially. It may be everything from the Tridentine Mass to a ‘high’ Novus Ordo with Gregorian chant and Latin, to a folk guitar Mass, Life Teen with a ‘praise band’, clown Mass, etc. It’s really become not much different than Anglicanism in this sense, an eclectic mix of rites that pleases everyone, while all claiming that it’s a ‘unified’ church under the pope.
Catholicism has a little bit of everything because it is universal. Eastern Orthodoxy is a pale shadow by comparison, having only the Byzantine rite within her communion. Catholicism is truly the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Eastern Orthodoxy is Holy and Apostolic, but they are neither One, nor Catholic (universal).
@@EasternChristian333 is Truth and Catholicity determined solely by a plurality of liturgical rites or adherence to the Faith? Catholicity has nothing to do with which church has larger numbers or more ethnic diversity or rites. According to St Vincent, it’s holding fast to the faith that which has been believed everywhere, always and by all”. So yes, the Orthodox are indeed Catholic.
@@user-oh3tl7je1q Except they cannot be since they do not hold to the filioque, immaculate conception, papal supremacy, etc. These are all Apostolic teachings and the Catholic Church has a plethora of sources to help you see these things taught by Councils, by the Church Fathers (East and West) as well as even some more contemporary Orthodox saints (who are still saints in the EO mind, despite their belief in Purgatory, Filioque, etc).
And Orthodoxy cannot be the true faith by your own proposed litmus test as Orthodoxy has never been of one mind on much of anything. They have no central principal to rally around. The canons of the Church down to morality are all up to the individual interpretation of a bishop. There is no "final" authority in Orthodoxy. You might argue an ecumenical council but then again, you have not been able to call one since departing from Rome.
@@EasternChristian333 what you said is not accurate or representative of the Orthodox Church. Papal Supremacy, the most dividing issue separating the two communions, came about as a development in the Roman Church (among other dogmas) mainly in the 11-12th centuries as a result of the Gregorian Reform. Pope Gregory VII and his successors radically transformed the Papacy in the West. The Pope had his own army and could depose kings and excommunicate entire kingdoms. Yet, the Latins claim that the Orthodox Church has an issue with Caesaropapism?! The Roman Church has changed so many teachings and practices it would take me forever to list them all. The Orthodox Church has been more faithful to apostolic tradition. Our Church doesn’t “bless” sodomy like your church.
Why if I may ask are you even commenting on this Orthodox channel? Are you a troll?
The weakness is the claim that it's true. Because when asked to demonstrate the truth claims, we are told to have faith. Faith is not a reliable pathway to truth.
The Catholic church is not just Roman. There are 23 different churchs such as Maronites who have their own Patriarch .
Depends on the time period. Unlike the Latin West, the Greek East had multiple iconoclastic movements to contend with
Amen
Amen!
Where does it say in the Bible that I have to go through first communion in order to be "allowed" to participate in communion? Doesbt simply believing Jesus is the Son of God simply enough? Also why doesn't the Catholic church talk about the Holy Spirit??
Mar mari stated that the Orthodox Church is like the straight path to god and that Catholicism is like a mother keeping her children under her roof. He said both ways are leading to god
Still waiting for an Orthobro to show me a pocket of iconography in the New Testament
No you arent.
@@MiskeenKareem I sure am. No one has ever done so before
If one colour is good enough to represent this earth it would be less complicated…..but all colours existed so each can survive. If simplified is enough to serve god it is great but if people needs requires different methods and different methods are used to keep people close to god is also in service to god…. One right intention is all in service to god, not absolute restrictions cuz with absolute force and restrictions bring stronger rejection and destruction and nature constantly displays by earthquakes ..etc which is caused by a big force
What I don't like about the Orthodox Church is that it doesn't consider the Virgin Mary the Immaculate Conception when she clearly is look at Lady of Lourdes, also I have felt the presence of Jesus A taste of him and I could not imagine having all of God within my womb so Mary is very special I smell roses all the time and I feel my mother's presence... I also can smell other Saints such as Saint Therese and I could feel her presence as well, the Orthodox Church doesn't recognize Saints after a certain period of time which is not right
1 Corinthians 14:33
King James Version
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
2 Timothy 2:15
King James Version
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
All we have to do is accept Jesus Christ and profess Him as our saviour. He saves us regardless of chants, icons and all the other stuff. Jesus is a jealous God and doesn't share his glory with other 'saints' living or dead.
The Gospel, Christ's sacrifice for sin, is so pure and simple. Why clutter it with man-works?
Mais, qu’as-tu dans ta tête ! J’aime mieux ne pas savoir, pour sûr des insanités ! Tes propres créations pas très catholiques… évidemment!
Raised a catholic but left as a teen. Never understood why catholism was so bad until studying scripture and understanding confessing to a priest who has no authority to forgive sins, meant all those sins can ONLY be forgiven by Yeshua/Jesus.
There is no iconography in the scriptures
No iconography or partiular kind of singing in the teachings of Jesus Christ or Paul. JESUS warned against teaching which adds or make the traditions of men equivalent to scripture.
Please don’t confuse the current Catholic Church (in crisis) with the true Catholic Church of the ages.
I feel Catholics and orthodox Christians have a strange sort of respect for each other that they don't have for Protestants
Orthodoxy promotes Oneness
Between us and Out Father right?
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The central part of catholicism is the Eucharist , the most important!( which we have and is available everyday)not the music or the chant.
The NO is sacrilegious to the Eucharist, turn back to tradition TLM or the Byzantine Rite.
That's why you all stopped giving it to all the members?
The Orthodox Church is wounded. They only have 220k members. Catholicism has 1.3 billion followers. Rome was the epicenter in handling all the heretical issues that came out of the east. We have a parish in every community of the world. We are responsible for building the Western world in terms of education hospitals and universities. We are the champion of life's and we are the greatest giver of charity.
As a Eastern Catholic I am with you 99% of the way here. The only thing I couldn't get behind was your numbers. Where did you get the idea that there are only 220k members of Orthodoxy? Eastern Orthodoxy is literally the second largest Christian denomination in the world. They have hundreds of millions of members, not a couple hundred thousand.
@@EasternChristian333 My bad, 220 million
And the Son. Orthodoxy still comes apart at the same old seam.
Why does the icon art not evolve? The songs evolved from the 1st century, why not the icons
You won't get a consistent answer. Even the iconography has evolved
I found the fullness of my Christian faith...
Check out the one part that is slipping. OCA
Definitely a strength in the Catholic faith.
Yes i love it. There is so much available for spiritual growth
I will look into this. Sounds ritualistic to me. I went to my wife church Catholic and was being fed the word. I asked for a Bible. No Bibles. I want to read and test the spirit and see if its in alignment. They looked at me like I was crazy. Also i felt nothing in there nothing 😅 Holy Spirit
The entire Mass has references to the Bible and there are multiple scripture readings. Are you sure you went to a Catholic church?
That is true I am Catholic I'm not proud of it I'm more favor to Orthodox church
Those things are preferences, not necessary. The Eucharist is what we are there for.
They’re not preferences. They’re all THE Christianity. There’s just a hierarchy.
Though my heart is central to me being alive, my whole body is what what makes me
The cannons would disagree and so would the saints
@@evangelus3289 By this logic both the Catholics and the Orthodox are big trouble because what each call tradition today developed over time. You merely saying our own development is more consistent than yours
@@yalechuk6714 the faith never changed for the Orthodox. Rome did change demonstrably.
You said that without knowing about the topic
@evangelus3289 Things you believe when you are in an echo chamber, not even your priest believe that.
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Why so much division. Explain please. I grew up south Texas Baptist. 🤔
An “Orthodox “ view indeed 🙏🙏🙏🕍
What's wrong is they do things and rituals that are completely no where in the Bible and are simply man made just like a corporation!
Who is this priest?
...what did Jesus say to one of His female followers,?🤔 she was asking Jesus to tell her sister to help her with the serving, Jesus reprimanded Martha, because He enjoyed having His followers clinging on His every word, as does God enjoy us when we lean on His Word and His promises💁♀️💞🌿🕊🌈🌻🙋♀️
But what I loved...
Thats why im leaning away from ortodoxy because the center is icons and not Christ i just need him not a icon of him i cannot forget the second comandment
I love everything about orthodoxy but camnot get into iconography. God says no graven images . Nor can i justify praying to a saint over jesus himself it makes no theological sense
God prohibits "graven" images, not images themselves. God even commands the creation of images/statuary with the ark of the covenant and with the building of the great temple. Don't fall for the weak protestant arguments. Just like they argue against the Hail Mary and whine about vain repetition. The keyword is VAIN, not repetition. Jesus Himself commanded us to pray the Our Father. To use the protestant logic we can only pray it once in our entire lives. Once we pray it a second time we have repeated a prayer and have become vain. And if they call that argument absurd then they must prove how many times a prayer can be repeated until it becomes vain. 2? 3? 7? They can't answer that because their arguments are foolish, ahistorical, and self refuting.
Byzantine Catholic ✌🏻
Thought icons were a no-no in gods eyes ?
Idols are a no no. Icons are fine. Humans themselves are an icon of God. We are made in his image. Christ is the perfect icon, the perfect image of God. Mankind are flawed icons. By uniting with Christ we become unflawed icons, though still not perfect as only God and Christ are perfect.
I'm Roman Catholic and married to an Orthodox. We pray every day, use candles, we clean our house with incense, use holy oil for food...I understand about the difference❤
Why always a beard?
Only correct in the context of the post concillor church. Post Trent & before the 2nd Vatican Council, the Western Catholic Church wasn't a liturgical & doctrinal fruit salad. There was universal conformity, with only cultural variation in expression.
Jesus is center head Lord apart from Hum we cannot do anything
And now there's a deaconess
Va 2. Peter.
Paganism too.
One other difference is that some orthodox churches allow marriage and divorce up to 3x. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Please! 😊
So many words to look up, in one short clip?!😅😏😆
So, occultism is your center. Bingo.
The Catholic Church was passed down from Christ! To Peter, then to the Popes, down through the ages. It's Christ's Church. The split between Catholism and Orthodox is truly tragic. Especially considering when the core beliefs and mediums of worship are essentially the same.
As time went by, scripture was joined by tradition. If tradition doesn't line up with scripture, what's it doing there? Icons, God said to not have graven images and to not bow down to them.
We've gotten away from the ten commandments, the sabbath,
Mariology, the priesthood of the believer (Mark 1615-20)
Jesus passed a pure bride to us, who will he meet on his return?
@@regtaylor1163The other way round, the tradition came first, the New Testament scriptures came about three centuries later.
@@TheMOV13
Sorry, but the Gospels were all completed in the 1st century,
John being 94 or 95 AD. The letters of Paul by CA 65AD, he was killed 65 AD, Peter was before John, James was also early. Tradition evolved slowly, 2ndC to today.
@@regtaylor1163 The canon of scripture was decided upon in the late 300s, before that time there was no agreed form of the New testament that we enjoy using today. The faith and the practice of the church before that time was decided largely by oral tradition, handed down from the apostles. Tradition first, scripture later.
@@TheMOV13
The Canon was formalized in the 4th C. The canon being which books are included
which ones were not.
But:
Like the rest of the New Testament, the four gospels were written in Greek.
The Gospel of Mark probably dates from c. AD 66-70,
Matthew and Luke around AD 85-90, and John AD 90-110.
Letters of Paul 45-65 A.D.
How could the letters of Paul be written in the third century, when
he was executed mid third century? That's dumb.
Also, the tradition was the writings of the church fathers, students of the apostles.
Nice way to glorify idolatry.
Orthodoxy is the only way I felt was truly Holy
Catholicism is a lie, I never knew the Bible or was told to buy a Bible, or how to go into prayer and praise to Abba Father.
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
The problem is that if the Gospel of Jesus is NOT central , you have nothing
And you are left with a nice iconography and rituals
That would be a problem if that were the case, of course. This is the centre and foundation of our faith, would you agree with the following expressions? "I believe in one God,
The Father almighty,
Maker of heaven and earth,
Of all things visible and invisible.
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
The Only Begotten Son of God,
Born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
True God from true God,
Begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
He came down from heaven,
And by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
And became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
He suffered death and was buried,
And rose again on the third day
In accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
And is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
To judge the living and the dead
And his kingdom will have no end.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
Who proceeds from the Father,
Who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
Who has spoken through the prophets.
I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
And I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
And the life of the world to come. Amen.
We literally read from the Scripture every day. You can go look at an Orthodox calendar and there is a daily Scripture reading for every day of the year.
Love the art...do not respect the religion.
Orthodox is beautiful but narrow to cultural constraints..Catholic is “universal “.
We have the Byzantine Catholic Church that is no different than orthodoxy. But what the Catholic church has that orthodoxy doesn’t is the 6 other rites that are equally as historic and valid. Such as the eastern Syriac rite that speak the same language as Jesus.
A heretic calling out heretical things in the RCC, SMH. Both are sinking sand.
Where do you see the heresy?
The Catholic Church really lost a lot of the faithful when the Second Vatican Council changed the Mass. It became lukewarm. I'm lucky to have a Latin Mass here in New Mexico that follows the tradition. But I also would like to see an Orthodox Mass now that there is a reunification.
Is it true that the Russian Orthodox named the Ukraine conflict as a holy war?
From what I hear yes and the Greek Orthodox doesn’t agree on their stances this is why it’s not the one true church… they can’t agree on anything. It’s all ethnic. If a Maronite Catholic bishop said something like that about a war pope Francis would not allow it.