Woops! I left a question on Super Springs video. Ignore that. I am now a learnid man regarding the difference between helper and Sumo springs. My camper remains loaded full time. Helper springs is the obvious choice. Thank you for posting these demonstration videos! They help a lot!
I have a 2015 F550 rollback and I need whichever product reduces rear sag the most - The absolute most extreme product for reducing rear squat b/c the factory overloads are already making contact BEFORE it’s loaded with 2 vehicles.
Hi, thanks for reaching out! I'd recommend our SSA17 or our SSA26. Our SSA26 is the strongest. You'd probably require our ITL-8 tool to install it. But that'll get rid of the squat. - Josh
Added the blue summo springs to my 4Runner. As the springs are always in contact you can feel the difference. The 4Runner is not as smooth. It’s a little choppy. However, they do work. Fully loaded using the third row it does keep the 4Runner from sagging as much. Also improved the cornering a bit. They work but there is a pay off. I have Timbrens on my truck. They sit an inch above the contact point. So with those the ride remains the same until they make contact. Then they are really stiff. It does control the sag thigh. Again, a pay off as these are stiffer. I had airbags on my previous truck. Not recommended, but I kept them at 5 lbs of air to not stiffen the ride when empty. Bags where great for maxing out the truck, just a pain having to air up. Installing an air compressor drastically increases the price. Thus these too are a pay off.
Thanks for sharing your experience! It's great to hear that the SumoSprings are keeping your 4Runner level and improving cornering, even though they might feel a bit firmer compared to the stock setup. Unlike Timbrens that sit above the contact point and can feel stiff when engaged, SumoSprings are designed to provide progressive resistance, offering a smoother ride until they compress, providing a more comfortable experience overall. As for airbags, while they can be great for heavy loads, the need for air compressors and the potential to stiffen the ride can be drawbacks. SumoSprings offer a middle ground, providing support without the hassle or compromise in ride quality. It's all about finding the right balance for your needs, and we're glad to hear that SumoSprings are working well for you!
On a positive note regarding the Summos, having them in for about a year now, the jarring ride has subsided as they are now broken in. Still controls sagging and keeps the decent cornering. For our SUV I feel this is the better cost effective option.
@@jor8061 Thanks for sharing your follow-up experience with SumoSprings on your 4Runner! It's great to hear that after some time, the ride has become smoother and more controlled. This highlights one of the key benefits of SumoSprings-they tend to improve with time as they 'break in,' providing consistent support and comfort. Your comparison with other options like Timbrens and airbags also shows how SumoSprings offer a cost-effective solution without sacrificing performance. Here's to many more smooth and sag-free miles ahead with your 4Runner!
Great videos and maybe once I have seen them all I might have a good few of them answered. I find the comments very useful and you do a great job answering. So I too am reaching out .... I have new GMC 3500 HD Diesel and a new Cirrus 820 Camper. Great combo; works well so far. My camper unit - with me, my wife, the dog and the eggs, coffee and milk - uses 3600lbs or so of my payload. I added a 5 leaf upper stabilizer at the recommendation of my local independant suspension guy. This helped a bunch with sag and some sway, but now I am still a bit bouncy and I experience (and really now notice) PORPOISING !! Yikes - that dreaded movement front to back and back to front. Would the blue Sumo Springs be of assistance? I believe something to stop the "to and fro" sooner than later would be the answer. Is it a spring issue or a shock issue? Thanks in advance and I will keep watching. I might reach out to your help line to discuss. We will use the camper lots in the spring to fall, and when we have the camper on it might be there for a while. We will also use the truck because it is a truck. Maybe 50/50 use with heavy load
Hi, thanks for reaching out. Our black SumoSprings would be perfect for you. I'd go with our SuperSpringsint.com/SSF-202-47 for the front of your vehicle and SuperSpringsint.com/SSR-207-47 for the rear. - Josh
Just order a set of sumo springs for my 2008 Toyota tundra after talking to the gentleman in the chat window . We decided to go with the lightest set due to only hauling heavy loads 2 to 3 times a month.
You know it’s funny I told my friend these points and I went with the sumosprings while he went with the add a leaf on our personal trucks. Now he rides around with a shitty ride all the time while I got a nice ride unloaded or loaded.
I'm confused with the Sumospring ratings. The blue have 1000lbs limit at 50% compression, the blacks 1500lbs at 50% compression & the yellow 2800lbs at 50%compression. I have a Fiat Ducato H2L2 converted to a campervan, the kerb weight of an empty van is 1900kg (4188lbs) & the max payload is rated at 3300kg (7275lbs), mine now weighs in at 2980kg (6569lbs) Your spec stated the springs shouldn't regularly be compressed more than 55%. So which Sumosprings would I actually need? Just to note, my leak springs have sagged & the OEM upper & lower bumpstops are within 15mm of touching! The weight of the van doesn't change much, except for fresh water (+/- 50kgs...) Many thanks.
Hi, thanks for reaching out. For your van, I'd recommend our SuperSpringsint.com/SSR-313-54/ for the rear of your van and our SuperSpringsint.com/CSS-1195/ for the front. - Josh
Hello 👋🏼 Have you looked up our Coil SumoSprings? We have an online tool for measuring your coils and seeing what part would fit best. Our Coil SumoSprings add about 30% additional capacity to your existing coil springs and tighten everything up while adding some level and weight support. The link below is your best bet! 🙌🏼 🙌🏼 🙌🏼 -Tom www.superspringsinternational.com/coil-sumosprings/#find-your-coil
Would the Super Springs allow more load capacity to an F-550, just help with sagging, or both? It's always loaded at near maximum payload and infrequently tows trailers under 5,000 pounds. Would it improve handling or possibly make it less likely to rollover?
Need the perfect Sumo Springs for my new 2022 ram rebel 1/2 ton ....btw the rebel has a stock 2"plus lift which makes it difficult to get the proper airsprings / sumo's or timbrens to get the suspension helper system to engage as soon as possible so that the truck doesn't sag too much before the system is engaged....please advise... I like the idea of the micro cellular design that offers progressive resistance rather than the timbrens material so I hope that there is a solution to this ram rebel stock lift issue. Cheers
Hop on our website and use our chat function to talk with the team and get exactly what you need. You can even send pictures of the stock setup through the chat. - Adam
Hi iam from India I would like install it for Mahindra bolero please suggest me the best springs and I need this product to India is there any possibility... please let me know...thank you
I have a 1984 P30 motorhome (22') and I can't find anything besides front coil springs on your website. Does your product not fit my motorhome??? It was a design used for MANY motorhomes in the early-mid 80's I was interested in your sumo springs
Usually, we suggest one or the other. SuperSprings will lift the vehicle, which can interfere with how the SumoSprings engage and work correctly. However given your specific vehicle type, you can call our service department and they can help you determine what's best for your situation. 805-745-5553. -Matt
I don’t haul all the time however when I do I’m hauling heavier loads, we haul horse trailers and cattle trailers and a lot of hay that can be heavy. Do you recommend one over the other or is there ever an occasion where are you use both?
Yeah you can! We've had a number of people do that. You're going to get the best of both worlds. The SuperSprings will give you the ride height, stability and sway control. The SumoSprings are going to give you all the damping and vibration reduction. We'd love to get your feedback once they're in place. Will you be making a video? -Tom
Hello I have airbags currently on my f250 with a carli lift that has progressive leaf springs and need to run almost max psi on my bags to get back to near level even with my equalizer setup. Would the superspring still work with airbags and springs that don't have an overload?
I have a Ram 4500 HD wrecker tow truck that I use to do repossessions. Yes I do tow cars but there’s also times that I am just driving around unloaded looking for cars. The main thing I am interested in is reducing the bumpy ride. What would you recommend.
I have a Class B based on an extended body Ford Transit 350 HD dually. It came with Supersprings installed. Handling is nice, but would it be OK to add Sumosprings to help dampen the biggest bumps? If yes, what color should we consider. Unloaded weight is about 8700 LB. Thanks for the great videos!
Hi Jon - I also responded in the other video, sounds like you may have the SSA43 already! Love that! I'd recommend you add the SSR-121-40 in the rear to get the vibration reduction and damping. If you don't already have the front coil SumoSprings (it sounds like you might) then you'd want the CSS-1195 there. -Tom
One last question before I order--I just wanted to make sure you thing the Blue (40) is the best one. Given the descriptions, I thought the Black (47) might be the fit for this weight. Or is the Blue better since I already have the SSA43 springs. Thanks again!
Hi - I've got a 2007 Sequoia that I haul a 3400 horse trailer with on a semi-regular basis. Trailer loaded is about 5500-6000 lbs. I had Super Springs on my 2004 Tundra I had before the Sequoia and they were great. Should I go with the Sumo Springs on the Sequoia as I'm looking for a smoother ride? Thanks!
Hi Lindsay! That's right, SumoSprings are your best option here. Depending on how regular this is you have the option of either the blue (-40) or black (-47) SumoSprings option. If you're towing less than 50% of the time, I'd go with the blues. The part number for you is SSR-623-40 or change that ending 40 to 47 if you chose to get the black option. -Tom
I have a travel trailer with 4400 pound axles and max gvw 8200 pounds which ones do I need I had a lighter trailer and it had the blue one I think this trailer needs the black ones?
For trailer SumoSprings, we need the GAWR, not the GVWR. If the GAWR is between 3,000 and 5,000 pounds, I would recommend the blue springs. If it’s between 5,000 and 8,000 pounds, I would recommend the black springs. Hope this helps!
I have a ram 2500 4x4 crew cab with roll out bed, fully loaded with tools all the time, a large truck rack and usually ladders. I do tow a trailer also - I’m getting sway at 55 miles per hour. Any recommendations for your products?
I have a 2007 Dolphin 6320 (34' actual length) class A Motor Home. It's on a M22 Workhorse chassis. The wheel base is really too short for it's length. I have added Track bars front and rear, heavy duty sway bars, Koni gold shocks, steering stabilizer, and it still sways side-to-side in the rear. It is enough to make handeling somewhat difficult. Which of your products do you think would SOLVE this expensive problem? Many thanks!!
Have a 22 f250 diesel 4wd. Tow a 36’ 5W twice a month for 2-4 hour trips and once a year for 2-3 weeks long trip 2-5 k miles. The truck is normally empty when it’s not towing, it’s a daily driver. What would you recommend ? Summo spring size
I deliver firewood and when im fully loaded I'm towing about 4,000 pounds more or less. I was thinking about buying the sumo springs but then I think they might make the suspension too stiff when the trailer is empty. What do you recommend, The sumo springs or the super springs? Thank you!
I have a 2015 f350 cab and chassis with the over load spring. I am a pipeline welder and i have a heavy load always on the truck from the welding machine and all the tools plus oxygen and acetylene bottles to the welding bed it’s self. I also haul a 5th wheel camper probably once every 3 months with a tongue weight I’d say around 3000lbs. What product do you have that will better suit my needs and help with rear sag. And maybe even ride quality. I’ve tried air bags but they do nothing to help the squat when my camper is hooked up.
I have 2019 ford transit van and i carry some heavy stuff at the back and found out it swing way if some wind hit.can you advice me which perfect for me?sumo or superspring?thanks in advanve
I'm looking to put one or the other on my mom's RV. It's a Class A that she lives in and travels in regularly so it's always loaded and of course the constant variation in the black, grey, and fresh water tanks is a factor. It has a frankly scary amount of body roll and lean when driving. Would the sumo springs still be the better option in this case?
Yeah our front and rear SumoSprings for Class A RVs will definitely help solve any body roll and sway issues. I'd suggest you check out our F53 page for more information and testimonials on our product. www.superspringsinternational.com/ford-f53/
I have 24’ gmc 2500. Use it for agriculture use. I pull mainly gooseneck trailers loaded with round bales of hay or cattle trailers. Pretty heavy most of the time. Hard to get 3500 dual wheel trucks through some of our gates. Trying to determine which application is best. Any suggestions?
I'm thinking I need blue. I load up my bed pretty good for camping trips. Getting a camper top next year, but nothing crazy heavy. Not thinking at all of doing anything major to the stock suspension. That chassis vibration you mentioned. When I'm on dirt roads and hit some washboard partches, the truck does start vibrating pretty good. Enough that I feel I have to carefully slow down, like I don't have totally good steering until it stops. Would these help with that? I
Have a 2022 Ram 3500 long bed dually. Which super spring would work the best/strongest? Will start doing 4-5 car hauling so I need your strongest stuff please. Note: I plan to install airlift 7500xl in addition to your product, if you have any. Thx
What would happen if i put sumosprings on a normal sedan car under 2 tons, which is not used for heavy load? Would it harden the ride? I'm looking for something to smoothen my average car ride (': Thanks in advance!
Hello! Our products work great for a daily driver vehicle. Getting the right product will ensure you have a smooth ride vs. a harder ride. On our website you can input some vehicle information (Year, Make, Model and Drivetrain) and that, if we have an application for your vehicle will show up! Of course if you need further assistance you can call us or use our website chat feature! www.superspringsinternational.com
We have a 2012 F250 Super Duty that we use to pull a Fifth Wheel with a 2800 lb pin weight. We only take it out 15-20 times per year. I'm guessing the SumoSprings would be better than the SuperSprings but not sure which "color". Am I incorrect or I guess I should say "what is your recommendation"? Also, if the SumoSprings are correct, is it ok to go with the heavier (5,000 vs 3,000) or is that not something I should do?
Would having a track bed cap, bedslide and roof top tent be considered as a permanent load? Total weight around 550 lb on chevy 1500. Which would work best for this scenario?
My new GMC saga a little bit when hooked to 30’ travel trailer. I’m not overloaded and have a 1300 lb hitch weight. Which would work best to level it out? Thanks.
Looking for one for my ram Promaster 3500. Your website didn’t have a leaf option for this vehicle but I am not sure the sumo springs will work as this would be a constant load (maybe variable depending on the water tank level in back) Thoughts?
We actually do! The product isn't showing up on our website but our SSA11 would fit your van. www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssa11 For stability and vibration reduction I'd go with our -40 SumoSprings. www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-313-40/ And I'd go with Coil SumoSprings in the front: SuperSpringsint.com/Coil-SumoSprings/ - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational hey so I bought your SuperSprings SSR-313-54 but when I go to put them on the top nut breaks loose and I can’t tighten it all the way. And then I take it off and I trying to switch to use the shorter bolts but I can’t loosen it to get the bolt undone. what do I do
Looking at adding a SSA26 to my 2006 F550 rollback, they bolt on top of the overload spring, could it not be adjusted so that they are not contacting the overload perch until weigh is loaded therefore not affect the unloaded ride quality? Not that its great now, just wouldn't want it much worse.
Hi Chase, For the F550. The SSA26 will engage the overload spring and add a lot of preload to the leaf pack. Because of this, the overload perches are not used anymore. However, since the preload is much higher, the ride will be noticeably firmer. And the ride height is higher when the truck is empty. That's the give/take you have with adding SuperSprings to strengthen the suspension. - Josh
Hi there 👋🏼 This is an awesome question @norvlak! We're literally editing a new episode of this series about using them together. The short answer is YES! (depending on your vehicle.) The SuperSpring will provide constant load assistance and body roll reduction while the SumoSpring will provide shock absorption, vibration reduction, and damping. Look for the new episode coming very soon. - Tom
Currently I have yellow super springs on my 2020 GMC DENALI 3500. Told they don’t engage until there is at least 6000lbs attached to the bumper or fifth wheel hitch and won’t affect the ride because of this. Is this true? Are there logical reasons to add the Sumo bump stops to my truck? I’m towing a 15000 lb fifth wheel toyhauler with a Tripple axle and a 5000 lb payload capacity. The side by side weights approximately 2000 lbs and my wife will bring 2000 lbs of cargo for sure so I’m thinking we will be close on our GWCR rating of 29700 lbs. Are there any logical reasons to add super springs and or sumo bump stops to my fifth wheel? Thanks very much!
Hi Dell, thanks for reaching out. You have a heavy build, so I recommend the SSR-203-47-2 on the truck and the -47 Trailer SumoSprings on the 5th wheel. I need to know if the trailer is spring-over or spring-under axle to give you the exact part number.
@@SuperSpringsInternational I already have super springs on the truck but I’m not sure how to determine the numbers on them. I had a performance shop install them.
@@SuperSpringsInternational No sir When I bought them I thought there were super springs for the truck I have and I assume the shop sold me the one that are for a 3500 Denali. Is there a way to tell by looking at them? Say a model number on them somewhere?
Have an f-150 with a level kit and running 33.8 “ toyos (305/70/17) Which sumo do I need . I haul anywhere from 3500 to 7k trailer . Depending on what I rent. Do I need. Spacer for the sumo springs because of bigger tires. Thanks in advance
@@SuperSpringsInternational I have eibach leveling springs in the front with bilstein shocks in the back and bilstein struts in the front . So nothing in the rear is lifted. Just running the bigger tires . 305-70-17 which are approximately a 33.8” tire.
Hi Chris! For this, I'd go with our Blue Rear SumoSprings. They'll give you the best/most unaffected unloaded ride, and then give you a bunch of load support when you hook up the pontoon or fill the bed with camping gear! SSR-307-40 is the part number for your truck. -Tom
Woops! I left a question on Super Springs video. Ignore that. I am now a learnid man regarding the difference between helper and Sumo springs. My camper remains loaded full time. Helper springs is the obvious choice. Thank you for posting these demonstration videos! They help a lot!
No worries, We're happy to hear that our videos are beneficial to you guys! - Josh
Adam you do one heck of a good job with the video's. Very helpful. I will be calling Monday to discuss option. Keep up the good work.
Awesome, let me know if you have any questions. - Josh
Thanks Mike!!
So helpful! Constant load vs occassional load!
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I have a 2015 F550 rollback and I need whichever product reduces rear sag the most - The absolute most extreme product for reducing rear squat b/c the factory overloads are already making contact BEFORE it’s loaded with 2 vehicles.
Hi, thanks for reaching out! I'd recommend our SSA17 or our SSA26. Our SSA26 is the strongest. You'd probably require our ITL-8 tool to install it. But that'll get rid of the squat. - Josh
Is there any problem with road salt degrading or destroying the material.. Im up in the north east and when winter hits... road salt is laid down..
Added the blue summo springs to my 4Runner. As the springs are always in contact you can feel the difference. The 4Runner is not as smooth. It’s a little choppy. However, they do work. Fully loaded using the third row it does keep the 4Runner from sagging as much. Also improved the cornering a bit. They work but there is a pay off.
I have Timbrens on my truck. They sit an inch above the contact point. So with those the ride remains the same until they make contact. Then they are really stiff. It does control the sag thigh. Again, a pay off as these are stiffer.
I had airbags on my previous truck. Not recommended, but I kept them at 5 lbs of air to not stiffen the ride when empty. Bags where great for maxing out the truck, just a pain having to air up. Installing an air compressor drastically increases the price. Thus these too are a pay off.
Thanks for sharing your experience! It's great to hear that the SumoSprings are keeping your 4Runner level and improving cornering, even though they might feel a bit firmer compared to the stock setup. Unlike Timbrens that sit above the contact point and can feel stiff when engaged, SumoSprings are designed to provide progressive resistance, offering a smoother ride until they compress, providing a more comfortable experience overall. As for airbags, while they can be great for heavy loads, the need for air compressors and the potential to stiffen the ride can be drawbacks. SumoSprings offer a middle ground, providing support without the hassle or compromise in ride quality. It's all about finding the right balance for your needs, and we're glad to hear that SumoSprings are working well for you!
On a positive note regarding the Summos, having them in for about a year now, the jarring ride has subsided as they are now broken in. Still controls sagging and keeps the decent cornering. For our SUV I feel this is the better cost effective option.
@@jor8061 Thanks for sharing your follow-up experience with SumoSprings on your 4Runner! It's great to hear that after some time, the ride has become smoother and more controlled. This highlights one of the key benefits of SumoSprings-they tend to improve with time as they 'break in,' providing consistent support and comfort. Your comparison with other options like Timbrens and airbags also shows how SumoSprings offer a cost-effective solution without sacrificing performance. Here's to many more smooth and sag-free miles ahead with your 4Runner!
Put them on front sumo springs Ford e350 Pleasure way! Great product will purchase rear.
Thank you for your business! -Adam
Great videos and maybe once I have seen them all I might have a good few of them answered. I find the comments very useful and you do a great job answering.
So I too am reaching out .... I have new GMC 3500 HD Diesel and a new Cirrus 820 Camper. Great combo; works well so far. My camper unit - with me, my wife, the dog and the eggs, coffee and milk - uses 3600lbs or so of my payload. I added a 5 leaf upper stabilizer at the recommendation of my local independant suspension guy. This helped a bunch with sag and some sway, but now I am still a bit bouncy and I experience (and really now notice) PORPOISING !! Yikes - that dreaded movement front to back and back to front.
Would the blue Sumo Springs be of assistance? I believe something to stop the "to and fro" sooner than later would be the answer. Is it a spring issue or a shock issue?
Thanks in advance and I will keep watching. I might reach out to your help line to discuss. We will use the camper lots in the spring to fall, and when we have the camper on it might be there for a while. We will also use the truck because it is a truck. Maybe 50/50 use with heavy load
Hi, thanks for reaching out. Our black SumoSprings would be perfect for you.
I'd go with our SuperSpringsint.com/SSF-202-47 for the front of your vehicle and SuperSpringsint.com/SSR-207-47 for the rear. - Josh
Just order a set of sumo springs for my 2008 Toyota tundra after talking to the gentleman in the chat window . We decided to go with the lightest set due to only hauling heavy loads 2 to 3 times a month.
Love it! I'm excited to have you try them out. - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational thank you, sounds like I'll be waiting a couple weeks due to back order. Hopefully it's only a week or two out.
@@josesanchez-li1uc We're working hard to get these out to you ASAP! -Adam
@@SuperSpringsInternational got them and they work perfectly !
@@josesanchez-li1uc We love hearing that! We're glad you're able to enjoy a better journey. - Josh
You know it’s funny I told my friend these points and I went with the sumosprings while he went with the add a leaf on our personal trucks. Now he rides around with a shitty ride all the time while I got a nice ride unloaded or loaded.
😂 Glad you're enjoying your journey! We're here for your friend when he's ready!! -Tom
I'm confused with the Sumospring ratings. The blue have 1000lbs limit at 50% compression, the blacks 1500lbs at 50% compression & the yellow 2800lbs at 50%compression. I have a Fiat Ducato H2L2 converted to a campervan, the kerb weight of an empty van is 1900kg (4188lbs) & the max payload is rated at 3300kg (7275lbs), mine now weighs in at 2980kg (6569lbs) Your spec stated the springs shouldn't regularly be compressed more than 55%. So which Sumosprings would I actually need? Just to note, my leak springs have sagged & the OEM upper & lower bumpstops are within 15mm of touching! The weight of the van doesn't change much, except for fresh water (+/- 50kgs...)
Many thanks.
Hi, thanks for reaching out. For your van, I'd recommend our SuperSpringsint.com/SSR-313-54/ for the rear of your van and our SuperSpringsint.com/CSS-1195/ for the front. - Josh
I'd like to support my weak coil springs in my 2001 Mitsubishi Montero Sport LTD. Do you have sumo springs for that?
Hello 👋🏼 Have you looked up our Coil SumoSprings? We have an online tool for measuring your coils and seeing what part would fit best. Our Coil SumoSprings add about 30% additional capacity to your existing coil springs and tighten everything up while adding some level and weight support. The link below is your best bet! 🙌🏼 🙌🏼 🙌🏼 -Tom
www.superspringsinternational.com/coil-sumosprings/#find-your-coil
Would the Super Springs allow more load capacity to an F-550, just help with sagging, or both? It's always loaded at near maximum payload and infrequently tows trailers under 5,000 pounds. Would it improve handling or possibly make it less likely to rollover?
Need the perfect Sumo Springs for my new 2022 ram rebel 1/2 ton ....btw the rebel has a stock 2"plus lift which makes it difficult to get the proper airsprings / sumo's or timbrens to get the suspension helper system to engage as soon as possible so that the truck doesn't sag too much before the system is engaged....please advise...
I like the idea of the micro cellular design that offers progressive resistance rather than the timbrens material so I hope that there is a solution to this ram rebel stock lift issue.
Cheers
Hop on our website and use our chat function to talk with the team and get exactly what you need. You can even send pictures of the stock setup through the chat. - Adam
Hi iam from India I would like install it for Mahindra bolero please suggest me the best springs and I need this product to India is there any possibility... please let me know...thank you
Does your vehicle have Coil Suspension? - Josh
I have a 1984 P30 motorhome (22') and I can't find anything besides front coil springs on your website. Does your product not fit my motorhome??? It was a design used for MANY motorhomes in the early-mid 80's
I was interested in your sumo springs
Unfortunately, all we have is SuperCoils for your vehicle at this time. - Josh
Can you use super springs and sumo springs together?
Yes, you can! We have several people use both for extra support and stabilization for heavy loads. - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational any video of this?
@@danlux4954 Our friend @urbanarkoverland has a video that shows both in action. ruclips.net/video/jHE-NrCJ7Q8/видео.html - Josh
I want to put this on my chevy express
Let me know if you have any questions. - Josh
Can you use SumoSprings in conjunction with SuperSprings? 2022 Ford E-450 Class C motorhome
Usually, we suggest one or the other. SuperSprings will lift the vehicle, which can interfere with how the SumoSprings engage and work correctly. However given your specific vehicle type, you can call our service department and they can help you determine what's best for your situation. 805-745-5553. -Matt
I don’t haul all the time however when I do I’m hauling heavier loads, we haul horse trailers and cattle trailers and a lot of hay that can be heavy. Do you recommend one over the other or is there ever an occasion where are you use both?
I'd suggest SumoSprings. If you're hauling less than 50% of the time, go blue. More than that, go black. -Adam
@@SuperSpringsInternational I mean I’m talking 32’ trailers with cattle, more than 50% less than 75%
When will Sumo spring be available for my Nissan Titan that I plow with? the sag from attaching a snow plow makes this ride way too low.
What year is your Nissan Titan?
Can I put both in , I already put the sumos in my van build and just ordered super springs
Yeah you can! We've had a number of people do that. You're going to get the best of both worlds. The SuperSprings will give you the ride height, stability and sway control. The SumoSprings are going to give you all the damping and vibration reduction. We'd love to get your feedback once they're in place. Will you be making a video?
-Tom
Hello I have airbags currently on my f250 with a carli lift that has progressive leaf springs and need to run almost max psi on my bags to get back to near level even with my equalizer setup. Would the superspring still work with airbags and springs that don't have an overload?
You'd have to send us pictures of your suspension to confirm fitment on your vehicle. - Josh
I have a Ram 4500 HD wrecker tow truck that I use to do repossessions. Yes I do tow cars but there’s also times that I am just driving around unloaded looking for cars. The main thing I am interested in is reducing the bumpy ride. What would you recommend.
The best option would be to get our lightest density Blue SumoSprings. That in combination with a good pair of shocks would be a great combo.
I have a Class B based on an extended body Ford Transit 350 HD dually. It came with Supersprings installed. Handling is nice, but would it be OK to add Sumosprings to help dampen the biggest bumps? If yes, what color should we consider. Unloaded weight is about 8700 LB. Thanks for the great videos!
Hi Jon - I also responded in the other video, sounds like you may have the SSA43 already! Love that! I'd recommend you add the SSR-121-40 in the rear to get the vibration reduction and damping. If you don't already have the front coil SumoSprings (it sounds like you might) then you'd want the CSS-1195 there. -Tom
@@SuperSpringsInternational Great! Will do! Order the blue ones . . . PS: I do have the front coil SumoSprings.
One last question before I order--I just wanted to make sure you thing the Blue (40) is the best one. Given the descriptions, I thought the Black (47) might be the fit for this weight. Or is the Blue better since I already have the SSA43 springs. Thanks again!
Hi - I've got a 2007 Sequoia that I haul a 3400 horse trailer with on a semi-regular basis. Trailer loaded is about 5500-6000 lbs. I had Super Springs on my 2004 Tundra I had before the Sequoia and they were great. Should I go with the Sumo Springs on the Sequoia as I'm looking for a smoother ride? Thanks!
Hi Lindsay! That's right, SumoSprings are your best option here. Depending on how regular this is you have the option of either the blue (-40) or black (-47) SumoSprings option. If you're towing less than 50% of the time, I'd go with the blues. The part number for you is SSR-623-40 or change that ending 40 to 47 if you chose to get the black option. -Tom
I have a travel trailer with 4400 pound axles and max gvw 8200 pounds which ones do I need I had a lighter trailer and it had the blue one I think this trailer needs the black ones?
For trailer SumoSprings, we need the GAWR, not the GVWR. If the GAWR is between 3,000 and 5,000 pounds, I would recommend the blue springs. If it’s between 5,000 and 8,000 pounds, I would recommend the black springs. Hope this helps!
I need rear ones but i cant find one for on 3 Gen 4Runner
While we do make rear Sumos for the 4Runner, we don't have any available for older models. We apologize for the inconvenience. -Matt
I have a ram 2500 4x4 crew cab with roll out bed, fully loaded with tools all the time, a large truck rack and usually ladders. I do tow a trailer also - I’m getting sway at 55 miles per hour. Any recommendations for your products?
Hi, thanks for commenting. What year is your vehicle? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational 2015
my fifth wheel has dual axles it weigh 8000 pounds it has a tongue weight or a pin weight of 1200 pounds which sumo spring would I need?
Hi there! Are you looking for SumoSprings for your truck or trailer? -Andrew
I have a 2007 Dolphin 6320 (34' actual length) class A Motor Home. It's on a M22 Workhorse chassis. The wheel base is really too short for it's length. I have added Track bars front and rear, heavy duty sway bars, Koni gold shocks, steering stabilizer, and it still sways side-to-side in the rear. It is enough to make handeling somewhat difficult. Which of your products do you think would SOLVE this expensive problem? Many thanks!!
Unfortunately, we don't have products that fit your Motorhome.
Have a 22 f250 diesel 4wd. Tow a 36’ 5W twice a month for 2-4 hour trips and once a year for 2-3 weeks long trip 2-5 k miles. The truck is normally empty when it’s not towing, it’s a daily driver. What would you recommend ? Summo spring size
Hi Connie, is your vehicle a 4x4 or 4x2? - Josh
Do you ship to Saudi Arabia (as you know the heavy wight item is really expensive, so if you have a way cheaper please?
Yes, we ship internationally! - Josh
I deliver firewood and when im fully loaded I'm towing about 4,000 pounds more or less. I was thinking about buying the sumo springs but then I think they might make the suspension too stiff when the trailer is empty. What do you recommend, The sumo springs or the super springs? Thank you!
Hi, what vehicle do you have? - Josh
I have a 2015 f350 cab and chassis with the over load spring. I am a pipeline welder and i have a heavy load always on the truck from the welding machine and all the tools plus oxygen and acetylene bottles to the welding bed it’s self. I also haul a 5th wheel camper probably once every 3 months with a tongue weight I’d say around 3000lbs. What product do you have that will better suit my needs and help with rear sag. And maybe even ride quality. I’ve tried air bags but they do nothing to help the squat when my camper is hooked up.
Hi Cody, is your truck a cab chassis? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational yes it is.
@@cody40131 I'd recommend our SuperSprings, they'd be perfect for your truck. SuperSpringsint.com/SSA25/
I have 2019 ford transit van and i carry some heavy stuff at the back and found out it swing way if some wind hit.can you advice me which perfect for me?sumo or superspring?thanks in advanve
Is it a camper van? Is your van always loaded heavy?
I'm looking to put one or the other on my mom's RV. It's a Class A that she lives in and travels in regularly so it's always loaded and of course the constant variation in the black, grey, and fresh water tanks is a factor. It has a frankly scary amount of body roll and lean when driving. Would the sumo springs still be the better option in this case?
Yeah our front and rear SumoSprings for Class A RVs will definitely help solve any body roll and sway issues. I'd suggest you check out our F53 page for more information and testimonials on our product. www.superspringsinternational.com/ford-f53/
I have ram 1500 2019 , which one would you recommend
What do you mainly use your truck for ? - josh
I have 24’ gmc 2500. Use it for agriculture use. I pull mainly gooseneck trailers loaded with round bales of hay or cattle trailers. Pretty heavy most of the time. Hard to get 3500 dual wheel trucks through some of our gates. Trying to determine which application is best. Any suggestions?
Hi Brandon, first off is your Sierra a 4x4 or 4x2? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational I’m sorry 4x4
@@SuperSpringsInternational any suggestions?
We have yet to 100% confirm fitment on 2024 model trucks. We are hoping to have this confirmed in January @@brandon779
@@SuperSpringsInternationalplease let me know thanks
I'm thinking I need blue. I load up my bed pretty good for camping trips. Getting a camper top next year, but nothing crazy heavy. Not thinking at all of doing anything major to the stock suspension.
That chassis vibration you mentioned. When I'm on dirt roads and hit some washboard partches, the truck does start vibrating pretty good. Enough that I feel I have to carefully slow down, like I don't have totally good steering until it stops. Would these help with that?
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Yes, these would definitely help remove some of that vibration. - Josh
Have a 2022 Ram 3500 long bed dually. Which super spring would work the best/strongest? Will start doing 4-5 car hauling so I need your strongest stuff please.
Note: I plan to install airlift 7500xl in addition to your product, if you have any. Thx
I'd recommend the SSA24 along with the SSF-302-47. You probably won't need the airbags after installing our SSA24. - Josh
2002 32' Holiday Rambler Class C with helper airbags that have given out. Can I replace them with Sumo Springs? How hard would that be?
Hi John, do you know what Chassis your motorhome is built on? - Josh
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@@johnmeengs7209 Could you send me some pictures of your suspension to my email? joshua@superspringsint.com - Josh
What would happen if i put sumosprings on a normal sedan car under 2 tons, which is not used for heavy load? Would it harden the ride?
I'm looking for something to smoothen my average car ride (':
Thanks in advance!
Hello! Our products work great for a daily driver vehicle. Getting the right product will ensure you have a smooth ride vs. a harder ride. On our website you can input some vehicle information (Year, Make, Model and Drivetrain) and that, if we have an application for your vehicle will show up! Of course if you need further assistance you can call us or use our website chat feature! www.superspringsinternational.com
@@SuperSpringsInternational once again thank youu!!
We have a 2012 F250 Super Duty that we use to pull a Fifth Wheel with a 2800 lb pin weight. We only take it out 15-20 times per year. I'm guessing the SumoSprings would be better than the SuperSprings but not sure which "color". Am I incorrect or I guess I should say "what is your recommendation"? Also, if the SumoSprings are correct, is it ok to go with the heavier (5,000 vs 3,000) or is that not something I should do?
I'd go with our Blue Rebels the 3000 capacity ones! - Josh
Thanks Josh! I forgot to mention ours is a 4x4 if it matters.
Would having a track bed cap, bedslide and roof top tent be considered as a permanent load? Total weight around 550 lb on chevy 1500. Which would work best for this scenario?
Is your truck sagging at all currently or is it level? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational Right now it has only bedside and truck bed cap installed and I'd say it is level
@@alexvlasov3304I'd go with our -40 blue SumoSprings :) - Josh
My new GMC saga a little bit when hooked to 30’ travel trailer. I’m not overloaded and have a 1300 lb hitch weight. Which would work best to level it out? Thanks.
I have a f350 and a 4” lift. What sum spring do i need?
What do you use your truck for ?
Looking for one for my ram Promaster 3500. Your website didn’t have a leaf option for this vehicle but I am not sure the sumo springs will work as this would be a constant load (maybe variable depending on the water tank level in back)
Thoughts?
We actually do! The product isn't showing up on our website but our SSA11 would fit your van. www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssa11
For stability and vibration reduction I'd go with our -40 SumoSprings.
www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-313-40/
And I'd go with Coil SumoSprings in the front: SuperSpringsint.com/Coil-SumoSprings/ - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational hey so I bought your SuperSprings SSR-313-54 but when I go to put them on the top nut breaks loose and I can’t tighten it all the way. And then I take it off and I trying to switch to use the shorter bolts but I can’t loosen it to get the bolt undone. what do I do
@@justinwestphal6195 Hi Justin, could you send me pictures of what happened to my email, joshua@superspringsint.com . Thanks - Josh
Looking at adding a SSA26 to my 2006 F550 rollback, they bolt on top of the overload spring, could it not be adjusted so that they are not contacting the overload perch until weigh is loaded therefore not affect the unloaded ride quality? Not that its great now, just wouldn't want it much worse.
Hi Chase, For the F550. The SSA26 will engage the overload spring and add a lot of preload to the leaf pack. Because of this, the overload perches are not used anymore. However, since the preload is much higher, the ride will be noticeably firmer. And the ride height is higher when the truck is empty. That's the give/take you have with adding SuperSprings to strengthen the suspension. - Josh
Anyone know if you can use them both together?
Hi there 👋🏼 This is an awesome question @norvlak! We're literally editing a new episode of this series about using them together. The short answer is YES! (depending on your vehicle.) The SuperSpring will provide constant load assistance and body roll reduction while the SumoSpring will provide shock absorption, vibration reduction, and damping. Look for the new episode coming very soon.
- Tom
Is this available in india
You can purchase all our products on SuperSpringsint.com - Josh
Nice products and beard 😉
Hahah thanks! -Adam
Currently I have yellow super springs on my 2020 GMC DENALI 3500.
Told they don’t engage until there is at least 6000lbs attached to the bumper or fifth wheel hitch and won’t affect the ride because of this. Is this true?
Are there logical reasons to add the Sumo bump stops to my truck?
I’m towing a 15000 lb fifth wheel toyhauler with a Tripple axle and a 5000 lb payload capacity. The side by side weights approximately 2000 lbs and my wife will bring 2000 lbs of cargo for sure so I’m thinking we will be close on our GWCR rating of 29700 lbs.
Are there any logical reasons to add super springs and or sumo bump stops to my fifth wheel?
Thanks very much!
Hi Dell, thanks for reaching out. You have a heavy build, so I recommend the SSR-203-47-2 on the truck and the -47 Trailer SumoSprings on the 5th wheel. I need to know if the trailer is spring-over or spring-under axle to give you the exact part number.
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I already have super springs on the truck but I’m not sure how to determine the numbers on them. I had a performance shop install them.
@@dellparker7686 Do you know what the weight load level capacity of the SuperSprings are ?
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No sir
When I bought them I thought there were super springs for the truck I have and I assume the shop sold me the one that are for a 3500 Denali.
Is there a way to tell by looking at them? Say a model number on them somewhere?
@@dellparker7686 Could you send me a picture of it to joshua@supersprings.com ? Thanks. - Josh
Have an f-150 with a level kit and running 33.8 “ toyos (305/70/17)
Which sumo do I need . I haul anywhere from 3500 to 7k trailer . Depending on what I rent. Do I need. Spacer for the sumo springs because of bigger tires. Thanks in advance
Is your vehicle lifted? ANd how often do you tow? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational I have eibach leveling springs in the front with bilstein shocks in the back and bilstein struts in the front . So nothing in the rear is lifted. Just running the bigger tires . 305-70-17 which are approximately a 33.8” tire.
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How often do you tow?
Go with timbrens much better
Thanks for your comment. No rubber required for a better journey with SumoSprings. :) - Josh
I drive a 2010 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 SLT and pull a large pontoon. Any recommendations?
Hi Chris! For this, I'd go with our Blue Rear SumoSprings. They'll give you the best/most unaffected unloaded ride, and then give you a bunch of load support when you hook up the pontoon or fill the bed with camping gear! SSR-307-40 is the part number for your truck. -Tom