UK Legal Slipjoint Knife Options Updated

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2020
  • UK Legal Slip Joint Update. Sept 2020

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  • @MDM1992
    @MDM1992 3 года назад +16

    You don't need a good reason under 3 inches that's worded in the legislation. It's only when you want to carry something locking and/or over 3 inches of cutting edge you need a good reason. If an officer asks me why I'm carrying my sub 3 inch friction folder, I answer because the law states very clearly that I can and that's reason enough.

    • @AaronW-ww4ds
      @AaronW-ww4ds 2 года назад +1

      Just because its in the law doesn't mean you do not need a reason why since police can still arrest you and book you for carrying it as far as they're concerned you never will have a good excuse to be carrying any weapon legal or not so then once they boom you for it youll have to go to court and the judge will decide whether you can or can't but 99% of the time they won't even bother to ask unless you're going into government buildings , concert halls , football stadiums or other places that will search you before you go in or if you have it on show since its only legal when it is concealed once it becomes on show you've then broken the law

    • @JohnSmith-rw9dl
      @JohnSmith-rw9dl 2 года назад +5

      No, what’s stated above in your comment is regarding being charged for an “offensive weapon “ as they say the only reason you need a locking/fixed blade is to be able to stab. What happens is, even though it states you don’t need a reason, each time I’ve stated this when stopped by police, they instead arrested me for a “pointed or bladed article” which means the same thing except the intent isn’t there. The law also states you can use “reasonable force” to defend yourself in your home, yet how many times have armed burglars been stabbed and died and the home owner ended up on trial? I take it from your comment that you come from a rural area or have had very little interaction with the police or their dodgy tactics. Like saying you kept it on you for self defence, which only a moron would say, but as most of the ones who stopped me were thick as pig sh1t, when they come up against someone who knows the law they simply lie. It isn’t about what’s legal most of the time, it’s an ego trip

    • @requiscatinpace7392
      @requiscatinpace7392 Год назад +2

      Three of you comment on UK knife law and all of you have interpreted it slightly differently. This shows how messed up UK knife law is.

    • @chrisschepper9312
      @chrisschepper9312 11 месяцев назад +3

      It's not the cutting edge but entirety of the blade length that must be 3 inch or less.

    • @leemichel8199
      @leemichel8199 10 месяцев назад +1

      When a police officer asks you if you are aware that you are carrying an illegal knife that is within the law to carry , it is what you say back that counts ,you simply say no I did not ,then the officer may say you know this could be used to commit an offence you still say no ,sometimes thèy try to bait you into admittion ,they must then prove intent ,he may confiscate it but you ask for a receipt and crime number ,which your entitled to request, record for evidence, and ask the officer if he is recording, if he says yes it was without telling you .but comply and legally, you can retrieve your knife .,or simple thing is do not take one to town in court or private area and you'll be fine

  • @John..18
    @John..18 Год назад +2

    The UKPK, especially in S110v, is the greatest UK legal knife available, imho,, I can't get my head around anyone not thinking the same,
    😱🤯🤯,,
    I'm waiting to get it in LC200N, as soon as they're back in stock at HH......

    • @chrisschepper9312
      @chrisschepper9312 11 месяцев назад +1

      I have that knife. It's amazing. I live 12 miles from the factory.

  • @KeithBonedoc
    @KeithBonedoc 3 года назад +5

    thanks for a nice roundup review. I have 6 of your knives - totally agree about the spyderco UK - although functionally a good knife, I just don’t like it, but I can’t help but enjoy holding my bench made proper.

  • @ronaldayres546
    @ronaldayres546 3 года назад +5

    Nice knife collection,here in Indiana you can carry any knife you choose but a ballistic knife and throwing star.Fixed,locking, auto,switch blade,gravity, and no blade length limit. I carry my Glock 42 a spare mag.3 swiss army knives and Benchmade Osborne folding fighting knife. The one SAK is a hunter with long lock blade and a great saw.

  • @OriginalOwner777
    @OriginalOwner777 3 года назад +5

    I would highly recomend when you are wanting to spend a little more you look at the viper dan 2 from heinne haynes. They may be pricey but they are worth it and the silver twill carbon fiber looks fantastic in life. The reason you are paying so much is quality from the blade steel to the materials and uk legal cary with a pocket clip the dan 2 will be in your prefered style too as its a modified warncliffe tip.

  • @mountainbearoutdoors
    @mountainbearoutdoors 3 года назад +1

    just got a nice higonokami edc from TOG knives in bristol, they import from japan using the hitachi blue paper steel. mine is a beautiful little slicer that keeps a wicked edge.

  • @jonlouis2582
    @jonlouis2582 3 года назад +7

    US viewer here, I found this very interesting. I lice in a state with restrictive knife laws and anticipate worse soon,, Interesting about the prices stateside, some much higher, some much lower. I have some of the same knives, and my favorite is the Buck Canoe. It's very slim and my copy is absolutely perfect. I have found that the issue with the Chinese made knives is that there seems to be no quality control at all, about half of mine are very good, a few are virtually perfect and some are appalling, even from the same brand. Thanks for the tour of your collection.

    • @jbc_edc9736
      @jbc_edc9736  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for the response. Definitely no quality control over in some of the china factories. I have seen a lot of fluctuation in prices too. Seems insulting sometimes that some American made knives are sold to us at double the price. I appreciate there are import fees but double is ridiculous

    • @jonlouis2582
      @jonlouis2582 3 года назад +1

      @@jbc_edc9736 I agree. I have several American knives, but if they were doubled in price I would likely pass. A big draw for me is the warranty (which I have used) but I imagine a warranty claim would be a hassle from your side of the pond.

  • @GurtTarctor
    @GurtTarctor 3 года назад +17

    3:33 I'm pretty sure that's not correct, it's only with locking or fixed blades that you need to have a good reason to carry in public, non-locking folders do not require a specific reason - "It's illegal to: ... carry a knife in public without good reason, unless it has a folding blade with a cutting edge 3 inches long or less".

    • @simonci5177
      @simonci5177 3 года назад +1

      You can always say, that you like to eat apples, and it's to take skin from apples and to cut apples to peaces. That's what my friend sed and police let him go

    • @OriginalOwner777
      @OriginalOwner777 3 года назад +2

      To be honest it all depends on the situation and your location when answering the police. It is acceptable to say I am not required to have a good reason to carry it as it is bellow 3 inches and a non locking folder. However you would be far better to say I carry it for general cutting tasks such as food prep and cutting packaging.

    • @denisoleary5302
      @denisoleary5302 3 года назад

      There is no reason why, legal or not, you need to carry a Knife on a night out.

    • @simonci5177
      @simonci5177 3 года назад +3

      @@denisoleary5302 you can carry to open beer bottle, wine using cork screw, and blade to cut burger in half before eating. I like to eat burger when is cut in half XD

    • @denisoleary5302
      @denisoleary5302 3 года назад

      @@simonci5177 99% of the knives in this video do not have acorksvrew or bottle opener. Again all you Walter Mitti guys only carru a knife on a night out for what?

  • @SussexEDC
    @SussexEDC Год назад

    Thanks for sharing your collection.
    I'm hoping HH releases that UK legal CRKT Pilar again.

  • @Enigmatic..
    @Enigmatic.. 3 года назад +2

    I have lost all my carry legal knives over the years, mostly because my brother would always want to borrow them for camping and end up loosing them, i really need to get a new one. The only knives i have left are my Gerber Freeman Guide Drop Point Folding Knife which isn't carry legal because it has a 3.5'' blade and is locking and my Gerber LMF 2 which is also not carry legal because its a combat knife designed for helicopter pilots. I really need to buy a new everyday carry knife because there are a few times i have needed one over the years and didn't have one. One of the times was when i found a deer caught in some nylon rope in the woods and because i didn't have a knife i had to run to the nearest house and ask to borrow a kitchen knife so i could free it. Luckily the guy who's house it was actually came and helped me release it because i would have really struggled on my own. He held it down to stop it struggling while i cut it free. I'm glad he was willing to help because it might have injured itself on the knife as i was trying to cut the rope if it wasn't held down.

  • @ant7699
    @ant7699 Год назад

    Thank you. Man,these quality pen knifes ain't cheap...

  • @keobaker4232
    @keobaker4232 2 года назад

    Nice collection you got there mate

  • @Bigsaxas
    @Bigsaxas 3 года назад +6

    There is some terrible advice in this video. You do not need a reason for carrying a legal carry. Knives like the Lansky and broker world legal are 100% legal. The definitions on locking are very clear and police cannot question it.

  • @EastLancsJohn
    @EastLancsJohn 3 года назад +1

    Very informative, thanks.

  • @rachael5177
    @rachael5177 3 года назад +3

    Nice collection , you’ve answered a couple of questions on knives I can convert the Juke and Desta been looking at those ,keep up the good work .

  • @garethjones1505
    @garethjones1505 Год назад +1

    While I'm not a lawyer and this comment cannot be viewed as legal opinion or advice, the statement at about 3:35 "you still need a reason to carry any knife at all in the UK" is incorrect. The law says that a folding knife (that has been interpreted by the courts to exclude any locking folding knife) with a cutting edge (not total blade length) of less than 3" or 76.2mm needs no reason.

  • @slick_slicers
    @slick_slicers 2 года назад +1

    Sorry to be so late to the game, but I only just saw this. Interesting to hear your views on the UKPK. It doesn’t appeal to me either! So much so that I haven’t got one anymore. I do have an Urban, but I don’t like it either. The slippies are not a patch on the little lock-backs, which I love (Ladybug, Dragonfly). I loved the cowboys on the Rough Rider! I’ve never had a Böker Worldwide as my hands are too weak. The Leong Mah #5 is an horrendous knife, but I had 2 Blue ones that people were very happy to take off my hands. I fell out with Heinnie Haynes over the Pilar, so never got one. I love that Proper! It’s the same one I have. I’ve had others, but this is the original and best! I had it in my pocket till just yesterday. My Buck Canoe was pretty awful. I did a comparison with a Rough Rider and a Case. It’s one of my most watched videos, but my conclusion was, Case best, but expensive, RR almost as good, but really inexpensive; the Buck, horrible! I like the Wasabi. I have the cf version. I tried to buy a Kensai custom recently, but it had already been sold. The Whitby is, I believe the same knife, from the same factory as the James Brand, but I’ll bet they neither have authority to sell or pay for the royalty! I gave mine, plus my Mint to Tobias (knife chats with Tobias) but forgot to review it first!

  • @nicholaschristodoulou5766
    @nicholaschristodoulou5766 9 месяцев назад +2

    Crazy if you have a knife you want it to be as safe as possible when you use it . That means having a lock on it .. uk has lost its mind

  • @JCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJC
    @JCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJC 3 года назад +1

    Great vid JBC!

  • @keobaker4232
    @keobaker4232 2 года назад +3

    Ive carried the crkt dually and its an awesome we thing but i like larger tools, before i moved to the uk i would always carry a full tang blade.takes some adjusting moving here lol. I never knew a knife could hurt feelings 🤣.

    • @jbc_edc9736
      @jbc_edc9736  2 года назад +3

      I know. As a self employed engineer I carry a leatherman surge every day for work but it is a pain in the backside at times. Keeping up with the rules and regs can be hard work when you actually see knives as useful tools and are not just after using them as weapons.

  • @jimbaker4942
    @jimbaker4942 3 года назад +1

    Nice review.

  • @JamesDC42
    @JamesDC42 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the heads up on the UKPK. I'm looking for my first knife and still can't decide. My mind keeps drifting towards the Svörd Peasant Mini.

    • @jbc_edc9736
      @jbc_edc9736  3 года назад

      It’s a good option. It’s a great little cheap beater and does what it says on the tin 👍

    • @s10m0t10n
      @s10m0t10n 3 года назад +1

      You could do a lot worse than the Peasant Mini. The steel is pretty good and the knife is almost bomb proof although it seems the quality can be very variable. Mine came with a hugely uneven grind and wasn't very sharp, but with a bit of time and work, it cuts like a razor and it's been used and abused and come back for more. Hope this helps if you haven't already made your purchase.

  • @fr0d0scious
    @fr0d0scious Год назад

    No thumb stud knives?

  • @leemichel8199
    @leemichel8199 10 месяцев назад +1

    Im surprised you have not got an opinel on the list ,the law has slightly changed in uk now they class the blade length to be tip to toe of blade and not the length of the cutting blade ,stupid law but it would technically render a large majority of the svvord style knives illegal now ,which to me is crazy ,i would love to hear your views on the recent updates.thanks btw I know how much effort it takes to make these videos so appreciate it emensly .God bless ..lee

    • @Naptosis
      @Naptosis 8 месяцев назад

      Interesting comment! Do you know the name of the case law?

  • @EnjoiFirstTry
    @EnjoiFirstTry 3 года назад +2

    Any tips on dying scales like you did with the CRKT? Looking at doing similar with the HH Pilar. Also, if you wanna get rid of the UKPK ;)

    • @jbc_edc9736
      @jbc_edc9736  3 года назад +1

      I used Rit Dye. It’s real simple. I just followed a RUclips video. It doesn’t matter if you use the powder or the liquid dye (powder is cheaper).
      Just boil the water with the dye and dip the scales for a min at a time checking it as it changes colour

  • @ballkeeper6662
    @ballkeeper6662 2 месяца назад

    so many knife i seen but blanked them cos they were locked, do you have a vid of doing it making then slip

  • @capttwitch
    @capttwitch 3 года назад +6

    Eafengrow actually uses real d2 ;) its a pretty cheap steel now but definitely good!

    • @chrisschepper9312
      @chrisschepper9312 11 месяцев назад

      The original super steel. I love D2. And more so now that it is so cheap.

  • @JVID3O
    @JVID3O Год назад

    Anyone can recommend a shop to get the slipjoint Pilar in Europe? Can’t seem to find it..

  • @ImaginaryEvil
    @ImaginaryEvil 3 года назад +1

    The Victorinox at 15:00 is a Bantam :)

  • @jonfox1919
    @jonfox1919 3 года назад +3

    UK knife laws are utterly ridiculous. Of course the individual policeman you might encounter has discretionary powers and might be quite reasonable but those guys are becoming pretty rare.

    • @AaronW-ww4ds
      @AaronW-ww4ds 2 года назад

      Any UK law is ridiculous you can't even carry any self defence weapon or even use self defence if something does happen say if someone threw the first punch and you hit back trying to prove you hit them back in self defence is difficult to prove unless it happened where you were in front of CCTV as even if it happened I front of witnesses they won't bother stepping up to confirm it was self defence and as long as its foldable, non locking and under 3 inches question's won't be asked unless you're going into a government building , concert hall , football stadium or any place that requires you to be searched for weapons

  • @paddyspotatopeelers2154
    @paddyspotatopeelers2154 3 года назад +2

    Nice little assortment mate keep them coming. Atb paddy

  • @clarky4492
    @clarky4492 3 года назад

    nice video

  • @silverback710
    @silverback710 5 месяцев назад

    Hi mate that lion mar 5 can you grab me a link for that can't find it anywhere and I'm new to collecting really like the look of that

  • @tumblodryay1189
    @tumblodryay1189 Год назад +1

    Non-UK knives are so much more fun. I have zero intention of carrying one but would love a fidgety type knife with nice sound and great materials. Is it illegal to even buy one?

    • @Naptosis
      @Naptosis 8 месяцев назад

      Everything except for butterfly knives, autos, and knives with bright green handles (I'm not joking) are legal to own and use if you have a 'reasonable' excuse.

  • @Jamesnebula
    @Jamesnebula 3 года назад +3

    Enjoyable vid. You can carry these everywhere btw no restriction.

    • @kaspertheghost480
      @kaspertheghost480 3 года назад +2

      Mate are you sure this is legal to carry out and about because I want to carry one but I’m not sure if you need a good reason to carry one and I need it just in case someone tries to kill me.

    • @Jamesnebula
      @Jamesnebula 3 года назад +2

      @@kaspertheghost480 100% sure, but with some exceptions. If you tell a Police person you are carry it because of rough area is an offence. Also if going to a protest or foosball match which often has violence, may be confiscated. If it says in your pocket you are gold wherever you are. Good luck👍

    • @kaspertheghost480
      @kaspertheghost480 3 года назад +3

      @@Jamesnebula Ok thanks I live in London and was recently a victim of a crime I’m not carrying it for any vicious intent. So can I say it’s for cutting apples and opening packaging.

    • @Jamesnebula
      @Jamesnebula 3 года назад +1

      @@kaspertheghost480 Yes 👍. In my view it's not worth resisting being mugged, who cares about phone and wallet. But for self defense the only legal option is a powerful torch. They can blind in daylight. Good luck.

    • @kaspertheghost480
      @kaspertheghost480 3 года назад +2

      @@Jamesnebula no I was stabbed and it fucked me up mentally

  • @deannesimmonds803
    @deannesimmonds803 3 года назад +1

    It’s called neutered

  • @name5949
    @name5949 3 года назад +1

    I really really want your scales from your victorinox hiker please can I have them for my victorinox fieldmaster 🤭 i really need to get some new scales for my victorinox fieldmaster by the way I've subd you happy new year Pal 👍

  • @JohnSmith-rw9dl
    @JohnSmith-rw9dl 2 года назад +1

    If you ever decide to sell the spyderco uk pk please let me know. Or if you would want to swap/px I’d be more than happy to. Was going to buy grasshopper but am not keen on the brushed steel handle

    • @jbc_edc9736
      @jbc_edc9736  2 года назад +2

      I would of offered it to you but I sold it over a year ago now. Couldn’t get on with it at all.
      I have since bought a roadie and I quite like that. It’s tiny but good for a little spare knife 👍

    • @JohnSmith-rw9dl
      @JohnSmith-rw9dl 2 года назад +1

      @@jbc_edc9736 thanks for the quick response. Where is the best site in the uk to buy pre loved knives? Cheers 👍🏻

    • @jbc_edc9736
      @jbc_edc9736  2 года назад +1

      @@JohnSmith-rw9dl in all honesty I don’t know of an all round site for pre owened. I know a bit of Googling will find you some leatherman collector sites and auctions.
      Best bet is to join a few Facebook groups/ pages:
      - Knife and Tool Banter UK
      - EDC COOP
      - knife collectors/traders Uk sales
      Most of them do sales or ISO (in search of) posts on Mondays only but some allow it all the time.

    • @JohnSmith-rw9dl
      @JohnSmith-rw9dl 2 года назад +1

      @@jbc_edc9736 thanks for that mate. I’ll give it a look. A few knives I’m looking for are no longer in production otherwise I’d order online.

  • @michaelmacauley3875
    @michaelmacauley3875 3 года назад +4

    I can assure you if you get caught carrying any of these knives in Inverclyde Scotland you are most likely gonny end up in jail 😨😨

    • @MDM1992
      @MDM1992 3 года назад

      Scotland won't even allow non locking knives under 3 inches?

    • @jaysee2213
      @jaysee2213 Год назад

      No you're not, if they don't lock and under 3 inches, as long as you're not using it as a weapon then you're never getting accepted into custody

    • @nintendokings
      @nintendokings Год назад

      @@jaysee2213 If cops think you’re up to no good with it they will book you using some act, regardless. But as long as you don’t say/do anything stupid and it’s indeed under 3in and folding; you should be ok

  • @Natecoxy
    @Natecoxy 11 месяцев назад

    F the law, i nearly lost a finger from a slip joint. Locking blades only.

  • @stokie1035
    @stokie1035 3 года назад

    If you were to be stopped for having one even if it is uk legal to have and carry but not for work ? And you was stopped for carrying one and the police ask you y what is a good reason to say you have it on you even if it is legal to have as we all know what the police are like 👍 and we all know with out saying it y we like yo have one on us (self defence) but what do we say if we are stopped with having one ?

    • @jbc_edc9736
      @jbc_edc9736  3 года назад +2

      I disagree entirely. I’m an engineer. I genuinely see knives as tools. I’m 6 foot 5 and I don’t feel that even in a very very worst case scenario unless someone pulled a knife on me that I would even consider that I have a weapon in my pocket. They are always first and foremost tools. I’m fortunate to live in an area with little crime relatively so it’s not a something I think about. I have always just been drawn to knives as useful tools and that would be my response to a police officer. That I’m forever fixing things as an engineer and the knives I carry get used for functional tasks. From opening packaging to cutting loose thread on clothing and everything functional related like that.

    • @AaronW-ww4ds
      @AaronW-ww4ds 2 года назад

      As long as its non locking , under 3 inches and foldable shouldn't get stopped unless you're going into places that require you and your bag to be searched and using self defence as a reason is not a valid reason to be carrying on since there's laws against self defence which any self defence weapon is illegal its even illegal to use self defence and if is rare that they'll believe anything was in self defence since self defence is extremely hard to prove unless you are around CCTV as even if there is witnesses the likelihood of them coming forward to confirm it was self defence is very unlikely since people do not bother to get involved in things that don't concern or involve them I always have a gerber gdc zip on my keys never been stopped even have one that's like a credit card in my wallet in college when I did catering had my chef knives always on me and on public transport nothing was ever said but that could be because they were always concealed in a canvas roll up bag

  • @dunzjos9754
    @dunzjos9754 3 года назад +3

    Idiotic UK knife laws make it into a police state, together with a lot of on street cameras and other silly laws. Glad they're out of the EC. Keep on rocking UK.