LED Panel vs Point Source | What Light Should You Use?

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @TylerEdwards
    @TylerEdwards  4 года назад +16

    Panel or point source? What’s your choice?? Comment below! 👇👇

  • @stevenp6761
    @stevenp6761 2 года назад +130

    I learnt this from Hungary's most famous portrait photographer (he used to work in Hollywood, unfortunately he died a few years ago at age +90): Almost everyone's nose is curving a bit towards the left or the right, and to counter-balance this in photography, you want to place the main light on the "shorter" side. For example: if you look at this video, his nose is going towards his left, but he placed the light on his right. This makes the curvature effect more prominent. So ideally, he should have placed the main light on the other side, on his left - and the shadow would hide / lessen the curvature. This is something that very few photographers know, it was only thought by great masters in the early / mid 20th century.

    • @michelbeeler8103
      @michelbeeler8103 Год назад +15

      Now i can't unsee it 😄
      Didn't knew this trick

    • @manzelllyles1804
      @manzelllyles1804 Год назад +2

      This mainly applies to photography or still, non-moving subjects such as interviews. For action or moving shots, depending on where the actor is headed, you may not always be able to likgt the subject's "good side." That being said, photography subjects are usually not in motion, and if you are shooting in a studio, you can predict or direct their movement. There are lots of photographers who emphasized how to study the face, as well as how to light & pose subjects to enhance their good side & hide flaws. Two popular options I readily know are Monte Zucker and Clay Blackmore, both who were portrait masters. Monte was a Canon "Explorer of Light," was the United Nations Photographer of the Year, and created the Monte Zucker Pneumatic Posing Stool and Westcott's Monte Illuminator Reflector, along with some of their light kits (many discontinued; he passed in 2007). He had an online social forum for photographers at Zuga.net (also closed) where he taught how to study the face, critiqued images, and coached photographers. There are quite a few current famous high-end photographers who came from that website. He died awhile ago, but I'm sure you can find many books and videos he made about portrait photography and studying & lighting the face. Some of the poses and looks may be dated, but his insight is still worth looking up.

  • @flypieTV
    @flypieTV 2 года назад +30

    Great video. I’ve been looking for this info for several hours and you’ve nailed it. Don’t worry about the rambling, be confident in your expertise and know that those of us who are less experienced are grateful to you for sharing.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  2 года назад +1

      Thank you!! I appreciate the kind words!

  • @jeetabhii
    @jeetabhii 2 года назад +3

    Your ‘rambling’ is of so much value for someone trying to gather knowledge about various lights! Thanks, man 😊 Cheers!

  • @alexchen1981
    @alexchen1981 Год назад +1

    Very useful advice, thank you

  • @MsQwerasdf1234
    @MsQwerasdf1234 3 года назад +5

    accidentally found your channel , stayed and watched every single one of ur vids. damn it's good!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 года назад

      A happy accident! Thanks for the kind words!

  • @BenCaesar
    @BenCaesar Год назад +1

    Dude I honestly learnt so much. Instant sub

  • @prahinc4832
    @prahinc4832 Год назад

    In the opening how you explain how a really good video should be like is so valuable. The details that matter is often the hardest to understand until someone points it out. Thank you

  • @kenanali586
    @kenanali586 3 года назад

    No, no need scripts, this is way better. Subbed and liked. I never like or dislike, but this got it.

  • @shadowshapers
    @shadowshapers 3 года назад +6

    I love a great nerdy ramble about technical stuff related to filmmaking. Thanks for sharing your experience and wisdom.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 года назад

      🙏🙏🙏 thanks so much for the kind words!!

  • @1001Hobbies
    @1001Hobbies 2 года назад +6

    VERY INFORMATIVE video. Something else to hit on is probably the fact that the 300d MK II COB light and P300C are likely around 15 - 20% brightness, meaning a person can get away with much cheaper and less bright lights. Lights the level of an Amaran 60d (no yet available at the time of this video I realize) and a P60c (also not yet available, but I own both these lights) would also light this scene exactly the same on a much lower budget. Yes, there are times when more light is needed for a different shooting situation, but for this dimly lit scene smaller lights (and lower cost) would do just as well of a job. I have only used the full 100 watts of my 100d a couple times. About 85-90% of the time I am using 15 - 35%, and that is why I also picked up an Amaran 60d, which can also be powered off of Sony NP-F batteries for convenience when power is not otherwise available.

    • @emumist
      @emumist Год назад +1

      Thank you!!

  • @fr.loomis997
    @fr.loomis997 2 года назад +2

    This was by far the most helpful video on this topic I’ve seen. I also appreciate the mention of specific products/companies so I know where to begin my search. All this talk about lights, I couldn’t stop watching the sun moving across the windows between cuts, haha.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  2 года назад

      Glad it was helpful! haha ya, it would probably be way less noticeable if I just used a teleprompter and run through it in one take hahah

  • @asmr_reviews
    @asmr_reviews 2 года назад +2

    Great video! 👍🏼 I’m based in Colorado to

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  2 года назад +1

      Nice!! Colorado is awesome!🏔️

  • @MotMovie
    @MotMovie 3 года назад +6

    Don´t worry about the rambling etc. I think you were on the message all the time and it was all surprisingly coherent regarding how free flowing and understated it all felt. Subscribed based on just this video. Just keep doing what feels right and don´t overproduce yourself, I think you got something airy and nice going there ;)

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 года назад

      Thanks so much for the kind words!

  • @CrispyAF
    @CrispyAF 4 года назад +10

    The lighting is so good in this! 🙌

  • @cevxj
    @cevxj Год назад +1

    Bro, i subscribed at 43 seconds, that lighting is great. didn't notice cause it's also good, but audio is at a comfortable level 🥲✨

  • @lamontmcleod2
    @lamontmcleod2 4 года назад +27

    Great job man. Fellow Filmmaker sent me, and this was a good video.
    At the end you mentioned how turning the lights at the back off made it seem more serious... That's something that not enough youtubers talk about, so if you ever wanna talk about what lights create what mood, I for one would be very interested to hear that!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  4 года назад +2

      Thanks so much! It is definitely something I plan on talking about in a future video!

    • @alexsanroman3861
      @alexsanroman3861 3 года назад

      I second that idea. That would be a very interesting video to watch.

  • @terranceroberts2919
    @terranceroberts2919 3 года назад

    Your rambling is appreciated you know your stuff so it's not just ramblings

  • @videocasetteTV
    @videocasetteTV 2 года назад +1

    Awesome keep posting like this, your explanation is better than text books

  • @a.singleton8529
    @a.singleton8529 2 года назад

    Excellent comparison LED Panel vs Point Source. Awesome!

  • @asmakhan1632
    @asmakhan1632 2 года назад

    i really wanted to see how you set it up or which light you were talking about, as you talked about it so a pov/bts video, even off a phone camera would've been really useful! thanks for giving the other tips and easy to understand pros&cons list!!

  • @frame88multimedia
    @frame88multimedia 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for glossing over quickly for the more experienced guys. Sometimes videos can get a little to teachy about bunch of stuff you don't care about or sound like an infomercial Get Job!

  • @freddymiguelponce
    @freddymiguelponce 2 года назад

    First time in your channel. Great video!

  • @nerdynicknacksandgeekygear8682
    @nerdynicknacksandgeekygear8682 Год назад +1

    I have a Nova and I adore it. But I find myself pushing my 60D through a scrim to be my go-to when I'm out in the field.

  • @dewaynetodalen4491
    @dewaynetodalen4491 2 года назад +1

    Hi Tyler, thanks for this video. We are in Parker, Colorado.

  • @mateoallen
    @mateoallen 2 года назад +1

    I love the lighting in this shot! Great image

  • @chadbarnard3620
    @chadbarnard3620 Год назад +1

    Lighting has always been that scary thing that I think I'm going to mess up so this was super helpful to just take a step back and remember the basics

  • @edinechannel5704
    @edinechannel5704 3 года назад +1

    Awesome man, greetings from Indonesia

  • @z.onurcaliskaner7637
    @z.onurcaliskaner7637 3 года назад +1

    Hi. I have really benefited. I would like to ask something herein. Actually i would like to obtain a light beam in haze in the scene 7:05, for instance. In this scene, a nice light beam was coming from the window behind. Which type of source, i mean panel led or point spot, do you recommend to achieve a haze like that. Thanks in advance :)

  • @ValentijnStomp
    @ValentijnStomp Год назад

    Loving the look, what kind of filtration did you use?

  • @LeonidZabolotin
    @LeonidZabolotin 3 года назад +1

    I've been searching for a video that would explain to me which light is better for me and I finally found this information here in this video. Thank you very much!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 года назад

      Wow, that’s so awesome! Thanks for sharing!

  • @bralynstokes9193
    @bralynstokes9193 3 года назад +2

    At first I thought your window light was just tube lights sitting behind difussion curtains. I thought that's brilliant and looks really good! Then the light changed and realized it was the actual sun lol. Might be something to recreate. It was beautiful.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 года назад +1

      Haha good idea! I might have to make a video on that! Thanks for watching!

  • @Mike0193Azul
    @Mike0193Azul 3 года назад +1

    Very helpful explanation & examples thank you.

  • @ChrisHerath
    @ChrisHerath 4 года назад +9

    Great video, I think YT needs more lighting-related content instead of only camera reviews. It's tough to find good quality lighting videos. Saving up for the Nova now and love my set of 300dii's.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Chris! I appreciate you dropping by. I agree, if there was as much emphasis on lighting as “cinematic b-roll,” there would be much more cinematic content on RUclips 😂

    • @ChrisHerath
      @ChrisHerath 4 года назад +1

      @@TylerEdwards I would like to see a tutorial on lighting a wide interview shot. For example, interviewee on a stool and having one camera wide head to toe, second camera tight. Struggling to get it right since the key has to be far away.

  • @SustainableGal
    @SustainableGal 4 года назад +1

    It's way better when you ramble on my friend - we get way more info! great vid as always

  • @emiliesheng
    @emiliesheng Год назад

    Great video, I find it very helpful and well explained! thank you!

  • @wiremonkeyshop
    @wiremonkeyshop 2 года назад +2

    I thought you were concise and very informative. Good stuff! I would have loved to have seen more setups, but I know, lots of time.

  • @schuey323
    @schuey323 4 года назад +3

    As always, fantastic video Tyler. I’m already utilizing my 300D2 to the max just like you are. Utterly salivating over that P300 Nova! That’s the next lighting investment.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  4 года назад

      I appreciate the feedback Didier! The nova is a fantastic tool for sure!

  • @hedgehogenglish
    @hedgehogenglish 3 года назад +1

    Thanks! This video is really helpful. I'm trying to figure out what kind of lighting I need right now and it is so much more difficult than I first imagined.

  • @make_malvina_up
    @make_malvina_up 2 года назад

    Really informative and helpful. Thank you for making this video.I am in the market for the best lighting for beauty/makeup tutorials. Do you suggest a led or point source for makeup tutorials? Also, how many lights do you think are a must for filming makeup tutorials ?

  • @aristomenis_k
    @aristomenis_k 4 года назад +3

    Excellent video Tyler, very well organized even without the script. I was searching for a panel vs cob light comparison video and I was happy to rewatch yours!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  4 года назад

      Thanks man! Glad you dropped by as always!

  • @BrandonLiUnscripted
    @BrandonLiUnscripted 4 года назад +13

    Shotdeck user I see ;-) Thanks for the info!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  4 года назад +5

      Haha definitely! Love shotdeck!! Thanks for dropping by, love you’re work!

  • @carlosq00
    @carlosq00 4 года назад +1

    Great video with a lot of very useful info bro! The more I learn about light the harder and harder it is to pick any one single type. haha

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  4 года назад

      Thanks bro! And I agree. Great thing there are so many great options out there on the market! Appreciate you brother!

  • @markokovacevic3225
    @markokovacevic3225 4 года назад +1

    Great explanation Tyler!

  • @vanessamarlowe
    @vanessamarlowe 2 года назад +1

    This was so helpful! Thank you!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  2 года назад

      Glad it was helpful, thanks for watching! 🙏

  • @delluxesports6392
    @delluxesports6392 2 года назад +1

    Great video my man

  • @reminiscentroadmedia
    @reminiscentroadmedia 3 года назад

    Thanks. Have both now. Will use them more intentionally and informed now.

    • @ronynikke
      @ronynikke 3 года назад

      Hello... so spotlight vs soft which is more soft putting diffusion panel in a spotlight ?

  • @WealthyPanda
    @WealthyPanda 2 года назад +1

    Very informative video. Thank you 😊

  • @user-nu8bf3bf9m
    @user-nu8bf3bf9m 3 года назад +1

    Which heat shield gel do you use on set? I happened to melt my color gel with my Aputure 300d mkII before and was looking for a solution so it'll be great if you tell me which one is right for your setup.

  • @brentpaul
    @brentpaul 3 года назад

    Great vid. Great lighting. Since you asked for a tip on he video, I wouldn’t say what you’re gonna talk about next, just talk about it. And a script would help, or at least bullet points. Thanks for the info.

  • @dadknowsbest3329
    @dadknowsbest3329 4 года назад +2

    Great work, always enjoy the content 🙌🏻

  • @wheimsickal
    @wheimsickal 4 года назад +3

    As far as your rambling on dude, the information density remains high throughout so it works great, at least for me. Rambling to me would be more like talking at length with low information density where it feels like time wasted without any new information. Love your format and B-roll example footage choices - just subscribed :D

  • @PopartFilms
    @PopartFilms 3 года назад +1

    Nice job, Tyler. Love the video. Visuals are gorgeous too. You live in Denver as well?

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! And yup, I am near Boulder!

    • @PopartFilms
      @PopartFilms 3 года назад

      @@TylerEdwards Nice. We moved here from Chicago and I'm still looking for a solid place to rent high end video shoot equipment from. Not nearly as many options here, if any. Recommendations?

  • @hayezmohairbi
    @hayezmohairbi 2 года назад

    Please suggest some set of video light for beginners and Intermediate level so we don’t go wrong in our selection.
    I appreciate your break down on the video light.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  2 года назад

      Amaran lights are perfect for that. Definitely can’t go wrong with Amaran!

  • @jasoncha1148
    @jasoncha1148 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for another great video Tyler!! Keep it up!

  • @brianlach
    @brianlach 3 года назад +1

    This is great! Thanks so much for sharing your insight, love this sort of detailed explanation.

  • @aorzya
    @aorzya 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the info! Packed with info and at the same time easy to understand.

  • @dab7963
    @dab7963 Год назад

    Help can't decide between the Aputure Amaran P60c or point source Amaran 300c RGB. Leaning toward the 300C because I can put diffusers on the front of it.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  Год назад

      300c

    • @dab7963
      @dab7963 Год назад

      @@TylerEdwards Thanks appreciate your opinion very much and I think I agree with you both good units but I believe the diversity of the 300C is worth going that direction I can buy one now and add a second one later.

  • @moshezuchter
    @moshezuchter 4 года назад +1

    Love your videos. Super informative. Thanks!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  4 года назад

      Thanks so much! Glad you liked the video!

  • @MattRozier1
    @MattRozier1 4 года назад +1

    Great video Tyler! Just out of interest what was your chat to camera focal length?

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  4 года назад

      Thanks! Hm I can’t recall exactly. Maybe around 20-24mm?

  • @marna7989
    @marna7989 3 года назад +1

    Do you think Newer's 660 LED is a significant difference from Newer's 528 LED?

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 года назад

      I’m not familiar with those lights, but I would assume the 660 has more output and would always recommend more output if budget allows!

  • @atogweoghieaga2205
    @atogweoghieaga2205 7 месяцев назад

    Quite informative. Keep on!

  • @scott_the_dreamer
    @scott_the_dreamer 3 года назад

    always loved your content brotha

  • @TheAstrologyPodcast
    @TheAstrologyPodcast 3 года назад

    On the ground pointed up at the ceiling, that's brilliant

  • @billf8217
    @billf8217 2 года назад +1

    Very thorough

  • @marksaustralia6464
    @marksaustralia6464 3 года назад

    Informative, and paced well. Thanks.

  • @thegenerousthief
    @thegenerousthief Год назад +1

    Great clip man! For a guy who’s just starting the hunt to get my first light this was a bang on. I went to look at the apurture 300II and the 60 today. 60 is small and versatile but I feel like I’m gonna grow out of it pretty fast. You think the 120 is a happy medium or should I just go all out and hit the 300 !?
    Cheers,
    James

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  Год назад +1

      I’m always in favor of more output! Better to have it just in case is my philosophy

  • @juju10683
    @juju10683 2 года назад

    Really nice video. The only way to improve since you’re someone who rambles would be to have a recap of bullet points at the very end.

  • @talkintruthelliotkillian
    @talkintruthelliotkillian 3 года назад +1

    nice, helpful video, Ramble On 😉🤘

  • @alphapyro360
    @alphapyro360 3 года назад

    I like the real world examples. Would love more!

  • @MrJPG1000
    @MrJPG1000 3 года назад

    Really great, lots of information and nice visual examples, and I like the speed talking. Alas, if you are relatively inexperienced (and the theme is so basic, it addresses the novices ...), you might have difficulties with all the specific names. A beginner perhaps doesn't know what a "Two-by" is, or what the specifics of a "Skylight" are ...

  • @monkynutzuk
    @monkynutzuk 4 года назад +1

    I instantly noticed how nice your lighting set up is. Are you using a cheeky mist filter? Looks really silky

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  4 года назад

      Thanks! I use a black pro mist 1/8

  • @WonderFilm
    @WonderFilm 3 года назад +4

    Wow! This video was incredible. I love how you talk about the different creative applications. It definitely helped me see the different uses of a point source. I'm trying to buy some lights and this really helped me see the difference.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching and so glad it was helpful!

  • @joonajks
    @joonajks 3 года назад

    Hi, would a clamp light with a led daylight bulb be a good key light starter for a new RUclips channel in your opinion?

  • @steve7015
    @steve7015 3 года назад

    Trying to get first lights and this really helped.
    Gonna go for the point source light for now.
    Thanks!
    wondering, how many watts from single point source would I need of studio portraits?

  • @TheRealMikeEdwards
    @TheRealMikeEdwards 3 года назад +1

    Well presented. Thank you.

  • @PandaUTC
    @PandaUTC 3 года назад +2

    that is a lot of info here, thanks

  • @winstonvlogs
    @winstonvlogs 3 года назад +1

    Very insightful video!

  • @a.b.5757
    @a.b.5757 3 года назад

    Really great explanation of lighting techniques. I am about to start a kids you tube channel and can't decide between 200x and 200d. The possibility to define exact color temperature seems to be a great and practical feature but then I will loose a lot of light power. Which model would you recommend?

  • @charlesnetzler2262
    @charlesnetzler2262 3 года назад

    Which light would you recommend for outdoor fashion? The talents are moving but the lighting assistant has about 1-2meter distance from the talent. I have been using an Aputure 300d but wondering if a smaller light setup will work like the godox ML60?

  • @nzrkm
    @nzrkm Год назад

    I noticed you weren’t doing cuts every couple of seconds and thought "How refreshing!" I’d personally pick that style over heaps of jump cuts. Stay genuine and ramble away!

    • @thehonestdude1067
      @thehonestdude1067 9 месяцев назад

      Well he is cutting
      He is just talking about stuff in different batch
      And he is reading prbbly from a teleprompter and in addition to that he is filling in the blank with examples and B-rolls
      I could be wrong
      But that's how it feels like
      And nope I'm not denying he is good at talking to a camera
      Just telling you how he created that mood 🌸

  • @visionairecreativehouse1734
    @visionairecreativehouse1734 3 года назад +1

    Great insight! Thank you! 🙏

  • @johnnuckolls7795
    @johnnuckolls7795 4 года назад +1

    Great and informative video.

  • @jhlee6369
    @jhlee6369 2 года назад +1

    great video!! thanks

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  Год назад

      Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!

  • @careywest
    @careywest 3 года назад

    Ahh fellow Coloradan. Nice video, my dude.

  • @abdurrahmanghanem8499
    @abdurrahmanghanem8499 3 года назад

    Thank you for the video.
    Are the soft boxes (with regular bulbs) out of comparison because they are less reliable than the LED panel or point source? I want to know your opinion about them, specially those which are marketed with (45w x 12 bulb ... and so on).
    Thank you again.

  • @JohnnyJayVisuals
    @JohnnyJayVisuals 3 года назад

    looking for intros to lighting and find out your based in the same state as me thats so dope!!

  • @panomavridis
    @panomavridis 3 года назад

    To the point. very helpful! what I needed at the time...

  • @cookify6875
    @cookify6875 3 года назад +2

    Really interesting and well explained, I just checked your buttery luts and im interested for my R5, but i see that the clog one was made for the EOS R, that was 8 bit instead of 10 bit. Are you planning on releasing one for the R5 / R6? Thanks again mate!!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 года назад

      For my canon LUTs, head over to www.tylerfedwards.com/luts There you will find clog 1,2&3 luts which work for all canon cameras.

  • @MartinBlasick
    @MartinBlasick 3 года назад

    Great schooling. I’ll dust off my old Arri kit. Been using led only

  • @KAREKINFPV
    @KAREKINFPV 2 года назад +1

    Great video man! I live in Monument, CO. Where are you located? I do a lot of business filming. But if you ever need someone who does FPV drone work LMK. I'd be happy to come up and film with you for the day.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  2 года назад

      Nice! I’ll keep you in mind for FPV!

  • @SteveHubbardGuitar
    @SteveHubbardGuitar 2 года назад

    Well done sir! Subbed.

  • @MBimmer
    @MBimmer 2 года назад

    Well that was very informative 👍🏼 thank you

  • @rapbisnar
    @rapbisnar 3 года назад

    love this setup

  • @EricvanVuuren
    @EricvanVuuren 4 года назад +1

    Thnx for the video, love your style 🤟🏻

  • @TheTsatsiz
    @TheTsatsiz 3 года назад

    Great Content Man, keep it up

  • @HoP-PODCAST
    @HoP-PODCAST 3 года назад +1

    Literally Eminem... :D The fastest talking youtuber I know so far :D

  • @aleksanderwicherski8145
    @aleksanderwicherski8145 4 года назад +1

    thank you for the video! I love your lighting setups, they are super informative and I can learn tons from them! would love to see the BTS picture of the setup if you could include it in the future! thank you so much and looking forward to more of this awesome content!!!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  4 года назад

      Thanks so much! I have quite a few lighting breakdown videos on my channel!

    • @DuffTV
      @DuffTV 3 года назад

      Brilliant information, lobe your vibe. Maybe just slow down the speech a tad. We are a bit slow over here in OZ. Lol

  • @aleclatulippe
    @aleclatulippe Год назад

    Very valuable, thank you!

  • @jdlmediaco3541
    @jdlmediaco3541 4 года назад +1

    Cheers 🍻 thanks for the break down