Disappointing that there was no elaboration in the second games dlc's on the sith apprentice Luke thing established from the first dlc's. Would've been really cool to see starkiller training Luke to help him overthrow the emperor like Vader did with him. You could have him go up against Leia or something like that where he has to help his master track down his old friends. Or you go with the overthrowing the emperor route and have the 2 of them fight Palpatine. If you use the second games dark side ending and story you can throw Vader into the fight and you'd have a pretty cool 4 way battle between Starkiller, Vader, Luke, and the emperor that could happen. I'd imagine even still something like that went down after the last dlc. Either way I guess that's too much story for a dlc.
Its because this is an AU for this games dark side ending and it would be kinda random to make it the first games AU dark side ending and not second game I will admit it would have been quite interesting though
It be cool parallel you play as lord star killer in the first mission then play as Luke the rest of the game and have a choice to kill his master or the emperor
I mean they kindof did elaborate if you count the second games only dlc as a continuation since Leia does say that she would fulfill the destiny luke couldn't
@@Lightpaladin720 why I don't mind, I love it in fact! It's just very brutal and dark timeline that surely would not appeal for 'modern audience'. Those were times where the main tool was not appealing to wider audience but to make something original and exciting. Imagination - an elegant tool from a more civilized era...
I wanna see them do something like this with a modern Star Wars game- but sadly Disney would never do something the fans actually like… and if they did they would ruin it with identity politics…
In my perfect star wars universe, the Force Unleashed games only happen until the first one and its the light side ending. That way it fits in but there's still a cool story in between
@@WallNutBreaker524 in my mind starkiller has always been Canon, despite what Disney thinks. Then again seeing sam already voice acting maul, I'd imagine starkiller being an inquisitor and being voice acted by someone else, oh well if they were ever going to do that then it'll probably be after our time.
Ok, so something I’m trying to wrap my head around is how the dark side ending of the first game is connected to the dark side ending of the second game. Because if Vader was killed in the first game, but he shows up in the second game, then that means those two events can’t happen in the same timeline. However, Leia mentions that Luke fell on Hoth, so they have to be connected. Does anyone have a way to explain this?
Theres like 3 timelines: 1. Main timeline (light side ending of both games) 2. Dark Timeline 1: Vader dies in the first game's dark side ending, leading to the alternate ANH and ESB levels 3. Dark Timeline 2: Dark side ending of second game, then alternate ROTJ level.
What if Starkiller was made Canon… (And say this game brings Nostalgia back. Watching it again.) We all know that Starkiller would be the last thing standing in the Canon Star Wars universe.
Is that a cool idea? Yes Is it a good idea? No since he is overpowered as hell and due to the fact that his story will be very difficult to squeeze into the events after the ROTS and before A new hope
They did make him canon. Try to look for all the similarities between TFU and the sequels. The idiots at disney just recycled the EU and patchworked their trash out of it.
In one of the episodes of Star Wars andor, fans have seen a sith stalker helmet like the one starkiller wears in this game. Many speculate that it could be starkillers and he’s finally canon. Though most believe it’s just some other sighs old helmet, and not starkiller. Honestly, I’d just be happy if it means the sith stalker armor is now canon.
His story was idiotic and non-sensical. Starkiller's story is a story that sounds like a fan-fiction of a Star wars fan, his story and upbringing make no sense. So Maul killed his love when he was already 14 and literally in his mid-puberty with raging hormones while Starkiller just hangs out with his while having longer and perhaps more intense training, no dark side corruption, just a cool teen with red lightsabers. Overpowering Vader while being around 20 years old while even the most skilled force users like Sidious having to struggle with Vader etc. Maul is a Sith apprentice, Starkiller looks like he grew up in the Jedi temple. Even Kylo Ren shows more symptoms and characteristics of a man who had a traumatized childhood than Starkiller ever did. Kylo and Maul break down because that is what traumatized people do, while Starkiller has epic, swinging sabers.
Instead of making TFU II they could have finished the ultimate Sith edition dlc or they could have made the second force unleashed a sequel and continuation of it
Starkiller made killing all our favorite characters look cool because this was a dark-side power fantasy drug trip Disney made killing all our favorite characters look cringe because of social political bullshit change my mind
@@JacksonWalter735 princess leia and khan solo(they do not marry, get separated for years, khan is killed by his shitty son who even gets reddemed at the end, leia commands a pointless military group for years and passes away while tricking her son to get stabbed, but he even do not dies), luke skywalker(tries to murder khan and leia's son in his sleep because he had a dream about this boy becoming evil, then after the boy becomes evil because of his actions, luke flies into a random island on a distant planet, becomes an asshole hermit, behave like drunk bum, mocks the jedi ways, projects himself through the force to fight leia's and khan's son safely, but dies anyway).
If the og trilogy went this way, Luke hiding away in the sequels would've made more sense. As a young boy, he dreamed of being a Jedi, but instead, he turned to the darkside, and that decision got everyone he cared about killed.
As much as I want Starkiller to be canon again I would HATE to see him reduced to a measly Inquisitor, I’d rather see him remain as Vader’s Secret Apprentice and Personal Assassin.
@@lonestarwolfentertainment7184 I’ve gotta play those games, I played it with a friend years ago and don’t remember a lot of the story, just remember liking the character lmao
This is the cringiest shit I’ve heard from someone that doesn’t even know what they’re talking about. Vader slaughtered tens of thousands of innocents and burned entire planets in his wake by falling to the dark side. There’s never been a single instance of a female Sith to ever coming close to that level of needing to “space yourself”
@@FeedMeChaos1 he was a Vader 2.0 loosing a bit chunks of flesh, bones and skins after The Emperor punish him throwing his ship to him, ins PS2/Wii the emperor throw the ship with the front side, in PS2/Xbox360/PC is the rear side with the propulsion at his fullest
If we got a force unleashed 3 the dark side ending and dlc might have allowed us to kill off all the sequel trilogy characters which I'm really sad we never got.
@@MangaSlayer102 alright bro I hate the sequels too but this was never canon even before Disney. Starkiller is too powerful and if he ever was brought into canon he would have to be nerfed od
Not gonna lie, I want more of Darth starkiller and his apprentice darth luke 🤣😂👌 5:51 surprisingly, Darth Starkiller is more diplomatic than Darth Vader 😂😅 9:30 dude... Darth starkiller is brutal 😂 also force ghost obi wan? He didn't even do that against Vader, change of plans I guess.
The surgery in the beginning most likely had some kinda control mechanism installed in him. One of the alt costumes shows Darth starkiller without armor and mega battle damaged revealing just how much of him was fully cybernectic. Darth Starkiller was nearly 90% machine
@@Spooder_Donuts8121 yea i think the costume is called "mechanical horror" starkillers jaw was missing he had these red tube things in his chest cavity which could very well be the remains of his lungs. Dont forget starkiller was already impaled once before by vader and then thrown into space. "I brought you here to be rebuilt" theres no telling just much damage starkiller got internally after he was impaled especially since it seem he was impaled just below or through the heart and getting thrown into space (lets not count the sequel bs with leia) is not good even for a force user.
@@Spooder_Donuts8121 heres a video showing the costume. ruclips.net/video/Yz5NHnn7ugk/видео.html As for how damaged he got. As i said. Stakiller in the main game was already Impaled by vaders lightsaber and sabers cause some bad damage when impaled and then he was thrown into space. Being in space quite literally just freezes and boils you alive at the same time. As a powerful force user Galen perhaps was able to mitigate the damage the vacuum caused by instinctual use of the force. As for how bad the damage was. Before the darkside ending where hes on the operating table, darth sideos flung starkillers own space ship at him full strength and crush him this also broke the big window of the death star throme room so he was most likely exposed to a vacumm again causing further damage.
Starkiller was such a Rey prototype Like bro was strong enough to to tangle with not just Obi-Wan Kenobi, but his FORCE GHOST, which is a projection from his consciousness within the FORCE ITSELF. It’s kinda ridiculous that Starkiller is capable of even harming the ghost never mind defeat him
Unlike Ray he was trained by Vador so at least he has an excuse for being a good duelist and you can tell from the lightsabers on his hilt that he killed Darth maul and some other jedi. So this shows that he still has strength. As for the Force ghost it's not made to be canon in any sense of the word. The creators to creative liberties.
However with Starkiller it makes sense that he would be OP, he’s the son of two Jedi Knights (one of whom was powerful enough to stop a Tie Fighter in the air with the Force) and was trained directly by Darth Vader for over a decade, what’s the explanation for Rey being OP? She’s the grandchild of a Cloned Palpatine? Hm ok I can accept that, but she still lacks formal training and instead just pulls her skills with a Lightsaber and the Force straight out of her ass.
This game makes wanna buy the PS3 ultimate sith edition just to play this. I grew up with the Wii version and had no idea this dlc existed. Watching chewie die sucked but good lord that is DLC worth paying for no doubt.
Star killer is the most over rated trash character… he is basically a Jedi that’s OP or a Sith Lord that’s op that’s all…. Little to no development… game was trash
Starkiller on the operating table, screaming inside his helmet, is the most inhumane, bone chillingly terrifying thing I've heard in all of star wars.
0:55 Starkiller is actually giggling, he enjoyed the whole grafting process!!
I thought muscle man from regular show broke in
@@Vipero_official m.ruclips.net/video/w1Gk3ImEW6U/видео.html
@@jakethesnake3593 bloody hell
It definitely gave me the chills when I was younger.
Vader's last words in his awakening scene "Nooooo!"
Starkillers *Inhuman agony*
The fact that Obi-Wan tried to keep fighting after getting stabbed with a lightsaber really shows that he really was dedicated to keep Luke alive.
Disappointing that there was no elaboration in the second games dlc's on the sith apprentice Luke thing established from the first dlc's. Would've been really cool to see starkiller training Luke to help him overthrow the emperor like Vader did with him. You could have him go up against Leia or something like that where he has to help his master track down his old friends. Or you go with the overthrowing the emperor route and have the 2 of them fight Palpatine. If you use the second games dark side ending and story you can throw Vader into the fight and you'd have a pretty cool 4 way battle between Starkiller, Vader, Luke, and the emperor that could happen. I'd imagine even still something like that went down after the last dlc. Either way I guess that's too much story for a dlc.
Its because this is an AU for this games dark side ending and it would be kinda random to make it the first games AU dark side ending and not second game
I will admit it would have been quite interesting though
It be cool parallel you play as lord star killer in the first mission then play as Luke the rest of the game and have a choice to kill his master or the emperor
I mean they kindof did elaborate if you count the second games only dlc as a continuation since Leia does say that she would fulfill the destiny luke couldn't
I think when you verse Leia in the second game she mentions that Luke Falls
They had balls to make DLC like this
what don't like your favorite characters getting killed?
@@Lightpaladin720 why I don't mind, I love it in fact! It's just very brutal and dark timeline that surely would not appeal for 'modern audience'. Those were times where the main tool was not appealing to wider audience but to make something original and exciting.
Imagination - an elegant tool from a more civilized era...
I wanna see them do something like this with a modern Star Wars game- but sadly Disney would never do something the fans actually like… and if they did they would ruin it with identity politics…
16:04
The developers knew what they were doing
He had the power to destroy plot armor
Thats some true power right there!
UNLIMITED POWAAHHH!!!
He's too dangerous to be left alive!
So we need him now to destroy andor and other disney bullshit.
Is it possible to learn this power?
In my perfect star wars universe, the Force Unleashed games only happen until the first one and its the light side ending. That way it fits in but there's still a cool story in between
Yeah me too!
In my opinion, force unleashed can never be canon, starkiller is too op and it kinda breaks the logic of the franchise.
Same !
@@thierry4140 hmmm.........that's if we're talking about Disney canon, if we're talking about old canon or legends...starkiller is definitely canon.
@@WallNutBreaker524 in my mind starkiller has always been Canon, despite what Disney thinks. Then again seeing sam already voice acting maul, I'd imagine starkiller being an inquisitor and being voice acted by someone else, oh well if they were ever going to do that then it'll probably be after our time.
Ok, so something I’m trying to wrap my head around is how the dark side ending of the first game is connected to the dark side ending of the second game. Because if Vader was killed in the first game, but he shows up in the second game, then that means those two events can’t happen in the same timeline. However, Leia mentions that Luke fell on Hoth, so they have to be connected.
Does anyone have a way to explain this?
Good point
Force Unleashed II takes place before ESB. So the dark side ending of TFU-2 could also lead to Luke dying on Hoth.
I'd take it as lightside ending in force unleashed 1 happens and then dark side for force unleashed 2 and then all the dlc's
Theres like 3 timelines:
1. Main timeline (light side ending of both games)
2. Dark Timeline 1: Vader dies in the first game's dark side ending, leading to the alternate ANH and ESB levels
3. Dark Timeline 2: Dark side ending of second game, then alternate ROTJ level.
It just means he died
The Jedis time is over
What if Starkiller was made Canon…
(And say this game brings Nostalgia back. Watching it again.)
We all know that Starkiller would be the last thing standing in the Canon Star Wars universe.
Is that a cool idea?
Yes
Is it a good idea?
No since he is overpowered as hell and due to the fact that his story will be very difficult to squeeze into the events after the ROTS and before A new hope
They did make him canon. Try to look for all the similarities between TFU and the sequels. The idiots at disney just recycled the EU and patchworked their trash out of it.
the good ending is canon
In one of the episodes of Star Wars andor, fans have seen a sith stalker helmet like the one starkiller wears in this game. Many speculate that it could be starkillers and he’s finally canon. Though most believe it’s just some other sighs old helmet, and not starkiller. Honestly, I’d just be happy if it means the sith stalker armor is now canon.
His story was idiotic and non-sensical. Starkiller's story is a story that sounds like a fan-fiction of a Star wars fan, his story and upbringing make no sense. So Maul killed his love when he was already 14 and literally in his mid-puberty with raging hormones while Starkiller just hangs out with his while having longer and perhaps more intense training, no dark side corruption, just a cool teen with red lightsabers. Overpowering Vader while being around 20 years old while even the most skilled force users like Sidious having to struggle with Vader etc.
Maul is a Sith apprentice, Starkiller looks like he grew up in the Jedi temple. Even Kylo Ren shows more symptoms and characteristics of a man who had a traumatized childhood than Starkiller ever did. Kylo and Maul break down because that is what traumatized people do, while Starkiller has epic, swinging sabers.
Instead of making TFU II they could have finished the ultimate Sith edition dlc or they could have made the second force unleashed a sequel and continuation of it
I'd play the hell out of that.
Your right, but disney wont have the balls to do it
I'm not sure why but I always feel the worst about Han and chewie's deaths, they're just so brutal for such iconic characters
Seriously. Talk about the disrespect to have Han actually blast Chewie
There was this op sith lord, and they all died -Patrick
15:29 *When you forget to take the chicken out the freezer*
Star killer knows how to take his opponents in stride
Starkiller made killing all our favorite characters look cool because this was a dark-side power fantasy drug trip
Disney made killing all our favorite characters look cringe because of social political bullshit
change my mind
I won’t try to change your mind, because you’re right.
Which characters did Disney kill for their social political bs? I haven't watched the whole series and stuff Disney made yet
@@JacksonWalter735 all of them
No need to change your mind
@@JacksonWalter735 princess leia and khan solo(they do not marry, get separated for years, khan is killed by his shitty son who even gets reddemed at the end, leia commands a pointless military group for years and passes away while tricking her son to get stabbed, but he even do not dies), luke skywalker(tries to murder khan and leia's son in his sleep because he had a dream about this boy becoming evil, then after the boy becomes evil because of his actions, luke flies into a random island on a distant planet, becomes an asshole hermit, behave like drunk bum, mocks the jedi ways, projects himself through the force to fight leia's and khan's son safely, but dies anyway).
If the og trilogy went this way, Luke hiding away in the sequels would've made more sense. As a young boy, he dreamed of being a Jedi, but instead, he turned to the darkside, and that decision got everyone he cared about killed.
I really hope that starkiller comes back as like an inquisitor or something in the next jedi game
As much as I want Starkiller to be canon again I would HATE to see him reduced to a measly Inquisitor, I’d rather see him remain as Vader’s Secret Apprentice and Personal Assassin.
@@lonestarwolfentertainment7184 I’ve gotta play those games, I played it with a friend years ago and don’t remember a lot of the story, just remember liking the character lmao
@@Me-wx1mtlast I checked both games were pretty cheap on steam.
Starkiller is far too OP to be just an Inquisitor. Maybe a Sith Acolyte.
Wondering what became of Dark Luke
That scream in the beginning is scary, man.
i know aye
I love this game and this fan fic dlc. Pure over the top anime style starwars. Peak
the hoth design for dark lord starkiller is my favorite of all time ngl
I am surprised that Luke is still alive after being hit by a starship (13:28)
I imagine the person flying it being like “Oh shoot, was that Luke?!” 😂
Don't kill Leia, turn her to the dark side 😁
"The men are bad enough. But when a woman falls to the dark side you better space yourself"-atton Rand
This is the cringiest shit I’ve heard from someone that doesn’t even know what they’re talking about. Vader slaughtered tens of thousands of innocents and burned entire planets in his wake by falling to the dark side. There’s never been a single instance of a female Sith to ever coming close to that level of needing to “space yourself”
What's the deal with the Freddie Kruger hands?
Intimidation/backup weapon probably
@@FeedMeChaos1 he was a Vader 2.0 loosing a bit chunks of flesh, bones and skins after The Emperor punish him throwing his ship to him, ins PS2/Wii the emperor throw the ship with the front side, in PS2/Xbox360/PC is the rear side with the propulsion at his fullest
@@0predaking0 yeah I know, not really relevant to the question tho
@@FeedMeChaos1 they were to help him channel force lightning
And thus, the sequel trilogy never happened (if only).
Same
Maybe it shouldn't even have happened lol 😂
If we got a force unleashed 3 the dark side ending and dlc might have allowed us to kill off all the sequel trilogy characters which I'm really sad we never got.
@@Lunk42 id pay top dollar to brutally destroy rey and kylo. Finn would at least be thrown a lightsaber and given a chance to fight before the end.
@@Misery2331 Oh yes they are and tons of people agree.
Hoth Is still my favorite mission and the Damaged cyborg Skin is the best. along with the the hoth skin.
I would give a large amount of money for either:
another force unleashed game
a game that is a sequel to the DLC
There's been talk of a possible sequel been I've not heard anything for a while
И тут возникает куча вопросов, кто обучал Люка и Лею джедайскому искусству, от куда у них световые мечи?
I wish this story was Canon! 😫
Me too Ro, I love this 😅
For me this will always be cannon no matter what Disney says
@@thedutchcenturion3008 technically it wasn’t even cannon in the first place, the rest of the game originally was.
It is Disney just doesn’t know the lore
@@MangaSlayer102 alright bro I hate the sequels too but this was never canon even before Disney. Starkiller is too powerful and if he ever was brought into canon he would have to be nerfed od
Imagine they took a step further and had us fight obi wan on deathstar
That was Awesome!!👏🏼🔥🔥🔥
Y disney se atreve a plagiar a Leia con Rey Palpatine dandole una vestimenta similar y un sable amarillo
I was gonna say that this version of Starkiller is Darth Vader at home but then I remembered Kylo Ren exists
the game is a mad power trip, go play it on console/pc
no discount vader there :v
Not gonna lie, I want more of Darth starkiller and his apprentice darth luke 🤣😂👌
5:51 surprisingly, Darth Starkiller is more diplomatic than Darth Vader 😂😅
9:30 dude... Darth starkiller is brutal 😂 also force ghost obi wan? He didn't even do that against Vader, change of plans I guess.
Who voiced him as Darth Starkiller?
Needs return of the Jedi
Having the starkiller photo profile i can Say that It's real creepy
Leia died because she forgot how to count
How could a force ghost hold a lightsaber and also be affected by the force
Obi Wan needed balancing, the force has limitz®.
Why does bro look like Megatron from the second transformers
Boy, I hope the Jawas extended their warranty...
yeah, pretty sure this starkiller is stronger then Palpatine, HE DESTROYED A FORCE GHOST, a being made of nothing but force energy
Like Father, like Son. Killing Jawas and Tusken riders XDD.
Starkiller isn't vader son and luke didn't kill tusken riders and jawas
How did he get the costume in the last one
It's one of the appearance options
Why did Starkiller listen and follow Sidious orders?
The surgery in the beginning most likely had some kinda control mechanism installed in him. One of the alt costumes shows Darth starkiller without armor and mega battle damaged revealing just how much of him was fully cybernectic. Darth Starkiller was nearly 90% machine
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq Damn, it was that bad?
@@Spooder_Donuts8121 yea i think the costume is called "mechanical horror" starkillers jaw was missing he had these red tube things in his chest cavity which could very well be the remains of his lungs. Dont forget starkiller was already impaled once before by vader and then thrown into space. "I brought you here to be rebuilt" theres no telling just much damage starkiller got internally after he was impaled especially since it seem he was impaled just below or through the heart and getting thrown into space (lets not count the sequel bs with leia) is not good even for a force user.
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq But how did he get so damaged to the point where he has tubes for lunges
@@Spooder_Donuts8121 heres a video showing the costume.
ruclips.net/video/Yz5NHnn7ugk/видео.html
As for how damaged he got. As i said. Stakiller in the main game was already Impaled by vaders lightsaber and sabers cause some bad damage when impaled and then he was thrown into space. Being in space quite literally just freezes and boils you alive at the same time. As a powerful force user Galen perhaps was able to mitigate the damage the vacuum caused by instinctual use of the force. As for how bad the damage was. Before the darkside ending where hes on the operating table, darth sideos flung starkillers own space ship at him full strength and crush him this also broke the big window of the death star throme room so he was most likely exposed to a vacumm again causing further damage.
They should do STFU 3,4,5,6 or 100 I would Play this until the Story of Star Wars would have no more sense
Very Nice. 👍
Starkiller was such a Rey prototype
Like bro was strong enough to to tangle with not just Obi-Wan Kenobi, but his FORCE GHOST, which is a projection from his consciousness within the FORCE ITSELF. It’s kinda ridiculous that Starkiller is capable of even harming the ghost never mind defeat him
Unlike Ray he was trained by Vador so at least he has an excuse for being a good duelist and you can tell from the lightsabers on his hilt that he killed Darth maul and some other jedi. So this shows that he still has strength. As for the Force ghost it's not made to be canon in any sense of the word. The creators to creative liberties.
However with Starkiller it makes sense that he would be OP, he’s the son of two Jedi Knights (one of whom was powerful enough to stop a Tie Fighter in the air with the Force) and was trained directly by Darth Vader for over a decade, what’s the explanation for Rey being OP? She’s the grandchild of a Cloned Palpatine? Hm ok I can accept that, but she still lacks formal training and instead just pulls her skills with a Lightsaber and the Force straight out of her ass.
I wonder how can character walk?
I hope the pepple who are makong the newest starwars game make some star killer ones
Nice
soooooooooo, basically the same screen roll... okay.
Hey, the devs were doing some roleplay. :d
Everything about this is so damn stupid but it was so fun to watch and play.
it's a what if anyways
Starkiller never took the title of Darth
In this dlc he did . He killed Vader and became Palpi new slave ... i mean apprentice .
@@dangi6516 No. He was called Sith Master Starkiller.
This game makes wanna buy the PS3 ultimate sith edition just to play this. I grew up with the Wii version and had no idea this dlc existed. Watching chewie die sucked but good lord that is DLC worth paying for no doubt.
Mmmmm gotta love backwards compatibility on xbox :)
you can buy it on eneba, it is like 2 dollars
Both games are pretty cheap on Steam (DLC included).
Star killer is the most over rated trash character… he is basically a Jedi that’s OP or a Sith Lord that’s op that’s all…. Little to no development… game was trash
Wtf is your problem starkiller is not a maREY sue
Whyd you click on the vid if you don't like the game? 🤡
did you play this game? There's a lot of character development. Although I bet you're one of those people who likes sequels
@@iiStrides ikr
One of the worst opinions I’ve ever heard