Fairchild C-119F Flying Boxcar
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- John Reffett Fairchild C-119F Flying Boxcar N1394N fires up both engines at Palmer airport Alaska. (June 2003) and goes for a short taxi run across the ramp. Later on we where offered a fine alaskan hamburger and hotdog BBQ inside the Boxcar fuselage.
I caught a hop on this very airplane from Korea, going to Tachikawa Air Force Base near Tokyo Japan. Just got back from one year in Korea. All those R&R's to Tokyo were some of the very best memories of my life. I'm 81 years old now and I still recall first seeing Seoul Korea totally bombed out! The Koreans are amazing people to have rebuilt something from"ashes" to a bustling metropolis that it is today. God Bless them all!...
MY Dad flew C-119's in Korea. He participated in every paratroop drop they did, and helped drop the Treadway bridge spans so the guys could get out of the Chosin reservoir.
Salvatore Pedi 1956 I watched troops going and coming from the Tachi base ops coffee shop on these flying boxcars and always realized I had a great assignment near Tokyo for 2 years.
I just saw your comment. Thank you for your service sir.
I met my first girlfriend on board one of these. Nov. 1963, I was a CAP cadet in Nashville. The Tennessee Air National Guard flew a couple of cadet squadrons to Dayton to visit the Air Force Museum. Once we were at cruise altitude, they let us come a few at a time to see the cockpit. I wound up in line behind a very cute, petite young lady. Her foot slipped as she went up the cockpit ladder and I suddenly had a double armful of cuddly girl. Nice way to break the ice! Needless to say, I’ll always have fond memories of the C-119.
I believe you 😊
I am a Baby Boomer and also grew up (Norwalk, California) watching C-119F's flying over our backyard on a fairly regular basis. I know that aviation is safer and faster now, but some of the magic from the old days is gone.
My dad flew on these at Ellington AFB in Houston. Before that it was C-54. He retired on the C-5a.
That is me closing the door and storing away the entry ladder... Regards from Alaska!
I thought that you were going to die for walking to the propeller. Then I saw you stoping by the door and I could breath again in relief.
Does the jet engine work as far as you know?
@@sammysouth8372 Yeah that jet engine works fine! Worked on it a lot in 2002. It sounds absolutely outlandish! That old Westinghouse J34 sounds very different...
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Weird seeing a single jet engine top mounted like that. Two were normally mounted underwing outboard of the radials. One per wing.
I was a bit surprised that you were walking towards to the propeller ready to be chopped up like a salami!!
What a blast... We used to jump out of those babies in the late 60's while in jump school in Fort Benning in Georgia.... it was so loud that after 15 minute ride, you just wanted to get th hell out of the plane... but I love it.. fond memories. thanks for the clip.. nice & clear picture.. and the sound too!!! Go Airborne !.
flew standby from Dover afb to Azores and chatereaux in 1964- along with tank cargo... 14 hours freezing in unheated cargo hold- slept on top of tanks to be close to the single steamline running along the top. froze , lost hearing and loved it. great plane...
WOW! Do the memories come flooding back when I see these old aircraft from my youth in Vietnam. As a USAF special electronics tech, we huffed all kinds of aircraft parts and supplies in these old birds all over Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia in the day. I remember many times of buying a box lunch for 40 cents and settling in for a 6 hour haul. During flight you could sometimes look overhead and see the rivets rattling around in the air frame and often hear then fall inside the aircraft. That said, these girls were tried and true and I never experienced an emergency in one. Travel in these were just slightly faster than today's family sedan.
I remember seeing this aircraft on display at the March ARB air museum in Riverside, CA back in 2007. The C-119 Flying Boxcar was a mainstay transport aircraft during the Korean conflict.
The c119 was the plane I jumped out of when I was in the 101 st. In 1960 at fort camp. In Kentucky.
Nice plane, but what a stunning backdrop with those amazing mountains!
Colin m : the mountain in the background is called Pioneer Peak , it overlooks the Matanuska Valley .and It's a Beauty ! One of my favorite mountains in Alaska .
@@strgrazr58 Thanks, it really is breathtaking!
Palmer Airport?
My step-dad was a crew chief on the C-119 while in the A.F. Reserves. They would fly from Sacramento to Guam almost every year. No cargo,just a giant fuel bladder so they could get to Hawaii then on to Wake Island then Guam. What a neat old plane.
I can remember them flying overhead in the 50s. This is the airplane that Earthquake McGoon was shot down in while resupplying Dien Bien Phu.
Alfred Enisz : yeah Alfred, l remember those from the fifties, droning overhead, there was a lot of them, then seems like they just disappeared, flying boxcars, that’s what we called them. First one I’ve seen up close. Nostalgic! 🌈lol
@@jmartin9785 I too have memories of them flying overhead, and I'm 70 now. Later research showed the reason: I was raised in Allen Park Michigan, and they were being produced at the big Willow Run plant! Nowadays, still a very active pilot, for 48 years.
That restart on the second engine reminds me of the scene in Flight of the Phoenix, with Jimmy Stewart.
. . . and Connie Francis background vocals.
Good movie
Great movie, too bad that remade very poorly I might say of a classic movie.
T. C. Gore
THAT, in the ORIGINAL movie, with Jimmy Stuart,
WAS a Fairchild
C-82A "Packet",
NOT a Fairchild
C-119 "Flying Boxcar", as in the POOR remaking of this ORIGINAL good movie.!!!
(As usual, the movie remakings are generally WORST than the originals.!!!)
My brothers and I are fans of that movie and of _that_ particular sequence. Every time we have worked on an engine over the years someone will inevitably say, 'Okay, I'm gonna try one, ignition off, to clean out the cylinders.' The Phoenix engine start is on RUclips and I sent the link to all three younger brothers several years back. When watching the movie on the disc player or when it's on TV my favorite part is when Jimmy Stewart _really_ guns that engine until it roars.
Love those big old R-4360s. Wish I could have seen the Spruce Goose with all 8 fired up at once.
As I understand it, most C119Fs had Wright R3350s, only a few early production Fs had P&Ws.
My dad was a flight engineer on the C-119 flying out of Mitchel Field, Long Island. He claimed it was underpowered but he enjoyed working on it and taking it out on missions. The longest flight that he participated in was from Mitchel Field to Panama. He also was an engineer on B-17's, and B29's during the war. During the 60's he was a final inspection crew chief for the "Thud," the F-105. His crowning achievement was a member of the team at Grumman that assembled the Lunar Excursion Module, the "LEM."
I trained for paratrooper with the PPCLI in c-119's in 1962 at Shilo Manitoba and once I had my wings I rejoined my battalion at Edmonton Alberta Canada where we made many drops at various places. They certainly were noisy and we were very glad to get out of them. Watch out for the tie down rings at the door, I had a very scary jump when I tripped on one going out the door. I was released at the same time as we converted to the c-130's so I never got to jump from them.
I remember seeing these serving with the airforce of South Vietnam and they had the "jet" assists from C123's attached and even some with the clam shell rear doors removed (my second tour 1971 - 1972).
My Dad worked at Fairchild Aircraft, Hagerstown MD in the 40s and 50s where they built them.
I grew up if Frederick,MD & flew out of Martinsburg,WV. MRB ANG had c119s . They also F86s & C121,s I believe. I mainly remember the C130s though.
My airline was based in the old Fairchild Hangar back in the mid-80s. I remember thinking about all the aircraft built there, like the C-119 Boxcar. Need to go back there and check it out.
"It's a beautiful plane?" I suppose, if you think so, it is. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
ProChoiceJesus : Yeah! Beauty, as the saying goes, is only skin deep! Remember the song that goes, hey, l saw your wife today, man, shes ugly,🎵🎶 yeah baby, but she can cook! 🌈lol
I’m sure they have a lot of nicknames for that old bird. It personally reminds me of a flying locust. Not to take anything away from it’s beauty, because it is an amazingly beautiful warbird. Nice video. I was hoping to see a takeoff.
I knew them as "flying boxcars"
Coco19r
Only worked one problem on the C-119 - "low torque oil pressure" on #1 engine. Had to removed and replace the Torque Oil Pressure Transmitter (with its associated capillary tubing that ran from the nose case back to the xmitter, which was mounted near the eng fire wall) Must have been a gazillion adel clamps for the capillary tube! Did make one jump out of the 119; was out of Kelly AFB, in 1968 - jumped over Hondo, Texas. Only got 7,500 feet. Was fun, as I recall. N-6395T & B-6370
One of ours took off from Andrew's AFB in '68 with 2 4360's stowed in cargo bay, lost one Engine. Came back around, landed safely. 2 more roached 4360 20w's. 909 Mats.
These were still in use when I was stationed at ft. Wainwright, Fairbanks Alaska. I was a crew chief on UH-1's back then.....1982
Would occasionally see one of these struggling to get some altitude after taking off from runway 31 at Forbes AFB in Kansas back in the 1950s. My house was about 8-10 miles out from the end of that strip and these birds were still low enough to rattle the windows when they flew over. I always ran outside to watch the planes. Made my mom mad when I'd jump up from the dinner table to see a low flying plane but she just didn't get it!
@leyburnhealeyman TWA operated a C-82 Packet, the aircraft the Flying Boxcar was the developed from. The C-82 is slightly smaller with a different cockpit and front end. There are some pictures of the TWA C-82 on airliners-dot-net.
I remember watching my cousin Bob, 101st Airborne, jump from a C-119. I never had the pleasure - jumped C-123, C-130, C-141. Watched my son and grandson jump C-130, C-141, C-17. Would have liked to have added the C-119 to my log.
When I Was In Jump School In Fort Bennington This The First Aircraft I Jumped Out Of
I took my first jump out one too.
As a new reservist I flew to Alaska on the 1964 trip mentioned in the Jack Warneke video. Spent the first night at McCord AFB and then on to Eielson AFB south of Fairbanks. Landed there on 7/6/1964, my 21st birthday. I recall our pilot very clearly, also a reservist, Captain Morris. He was great and handled some of "us new kids" with kid gloves. Thank you Captain Morris. I was not crew member but rather a clerk who was required to go along. It turned out to be one of the greatest experiences of my life!!
Two engines, twice as much noise. Two engines twice as much smoke. A true flying dinosaur.
Great video. Remember climbing aboard a USAF one at a Mildenhall air show many many moons ago.🇬🇧
Saw and heard this bird through most of my childhood at Mitchell AFB Long Island NY. The flying Box Car nested there often and in large numbers😊
I flew in one in 1968 Civil Air Patrol for summer encampment in Amarillo at pre closed AFB. Rough ride over west Texas, but great experience 👌
My dad flew 119 retardant bombers for Hawkins and Powers, and Connies in Southeast Asia and Alaska. What a beautiful airplane the Connie was! I wouldn't say the C 119 was beautiful, but what damn workhorse! It could do anything.
What a COOL plane! I recall seeing these flying into D-M AFB in AZ to be mothballed some 50 years or so ago.
Such an inglorious way to go out from a neat airplane to beer cans.
Such is the Circle of life, I suppose.
I'd LOVE to see one flying again and, better yet, to get to take a flight in one!!
KOWABUNGA!!
Thanks for the video.
I recognize that airport
I work at that hanger in the late 90's
DC 6's and DC 3's
When I was 3 or 4 years old I remember a group of planes flying over our house in Massachusetts and my father, who was a WW2 vet, calling them "Flying Box Cars". I can still remember seeing the dual tail fuselages, but have never seen another till this video. All my life I always thought he had them confused with P-38's. I should have known better. That was back around 1950.
labrd41 ISaw the Flying Boxcars over Salem Ma. When I was a kid. Often in formations.
I saw them at Bradley (BDL) in the early 60’s. I believe Mass Air Guard had them out of Westover or Barnes.
@@robertpelletier1634 We lived I Brockton.
When we lived in Tewksbury, MA during 1959 - 1961, used to see formations of C-119 aircraft fly overhead. I was a freshman at Tewksbury Memorial High School, 1960-61
@@SpookyEN211 Was a fight mechanic on the c119 in Ashia Japan 1950_1953 I am now 92 yrs old greatest experience of my life.our Mission resupply Koean War needs.
I remember those old days. At KELLY Field in San Antonio Texas memories
I worked on that aircraft when it was a usmc bird. NAS Sandpoint, and NAS Whidbey island. 1970.
My grandpa and his crew bailed out of a c119 close to HAFB.in Utah in the 50s.half the men froze to death(including my grandpa)the others either walked out or where later found.plane flew till it ran outta fuel in swan valley idaho.sad day....
This is how we got supplies to Iraklion Air Station on Crete. We rode it back and forth to Athens. Brings back memories.
1954 I was at Ashiya Air Base Japan. Flew from Ashiya to Osan Korea. Also went R&R Osan to Itami AB Japan
It looks like the aircraft that was in the movie " Flight of the Phoenix"!
Indeed, the very same!
Im not being a smart ass or anything but it looks the same because it is the same aircraft.
No shit Sherlock
there's nothing like the sound of those double cyclone radial engines with the smoke and flames shooting out the exhaust you can have your jet engines LOL
Back in the 50s, my dad was in the air force reserve at Mitchel field on Long Island. I was taken on these old birds many times back then. Little did I realize I would be working on one when I went to Vietnam. I was a crew chief on a AC-119 Spectre at Phan Rang Air Base in 1969. I loved that old plane. Then the AC-130 took over and they were gone. Great memories of that time.....
When I was a kid in the CAP I rode to summer camp in one. My first time in a large plane.
Me too. Griffiss FAB, Rome, N.Y..
Flew in one of these from Green Bay WI to MCAS EL TORO CA in 1967. Just slightly faster than hitchhiking. One of our Gunnies flew in them during the Korean War..survived 2 crashes.
...used to remember these flying out of MKE for the old 440th reserve wing.
First airplane I ever rode in, I jumped out of. A C-119 at Fort Beginning.
The ones used to haul us jarheads around back in the early 50s didn't have the jet engine on top. Loud, underpowered and cold inside. But reliable.
My Dad was working 80 hrs per week as control rigger for the C-119s and B-24s at Ford's Willow Run plant in '43. He got drafted so told them he wouldn't be in tomorrow as leaving on train for basic training AND WERE THEY PISSED!! Ford told him not to report and they would get him immediately deferred to build the bombers, but all he said was "Bye"!!!!!
Erwin Schmidt Good for him on his response to Ford! But the first C-119 flight took place in November 1947. The C-82 Packet was the one in World War II
a C119 was my ride out of Turkey in 1959...we flew to Izmir to clear customs and then on to Athens...I was lucky to get a C130 to Evreaux France the next day...
por favor´´ granskare-¡ comente porque tuvo suerte de no volver a volar en f-119 cuente la experiencia -¡ en republica mexicana nunca jamas C--119 ni restos ni de coleccion -¡
luchatroka alvarado guajardo I flew from Izmir Turkey to Athens aboard a C-119 airplane...one day later, I flew to France aboard a C-130 4 engine cargo plane. Best wishes to you.
ok y-¡ m gracias me gustaria que comentara la experiencia a bordo en c119 en rep mexicana no jamas c119 no se porque pero el fairchild-packet si aerlineas mexicanas operon 3 1958-71
luchatroka alvarado guajardo gracias / thank you :)
al pendiente y que haya dicha saud y prosperidad -¡ en tu pais -¡ y en tu familia+
I thought no turbos had a different exhaust system, like a Skyrider. Someone told me years ago : "If you see 3 plumes of smoke, is the one with the parts recovery turbines "
This one has PRT's with carburetors, no fuel injection.
I remember Flying Boxcars going over as a kid in 60's... they disappeared eventually and I just saw them on a Korean War series... bought back memories. Lived not far from Willow Grove AFB and not sure if they came from there or not.
Made 4 jumps out of these in 69 at Ft Benning Ga Airborne jump school.
Those have the massive 28 Cylinder P&W R-4360 largest piston engine ever mass produced put into service.
It flies!! 😄 I thought it was just for display, nice!!
A lady that can hold herself when a heavy load is involved and still good looking 👌
Jump school, Ft Benning, summer 1966. Hot, noisy! Couldn’t wait to jump. What a kick!
Great video!!
I am only here because of the reboot of Flight of the Phoenix 14 years ago..... just re watched it and had to find the plane..... good history!
We flew the Dollar Nineteens out of Scott AFB in the early 60's when I was with the 932nd Troop Carrier Group. I wonder if any of these birds are still flying? I left in 1966 when they were bringing in the C-130's.
Scares me more now than it did in April 1958 when i was young. lol A few of us from iceland flew to Newfoundland on a C-118 and then to Goose Bay for Tops In Blue talent show. Flew at 7000 clear weather plane flew ok but the tail-section kept bobbing up and down, thought it was going to break off. A few days later did the same thing back to Newf. I think the flight took about 2 hours or so, and was mostly over snow-covered forests and partially frozen rivers.
I remember them in Morocco as part of VR-24 in the early 60s.
I was a load master on the C119 in the reserves. Logged more than 1200 hours
Have not seen a boxcar since 73
My uncle was a C119 designer in Hagerstown, 70 years ago.
Dan Beyer a very useful aircraft....in 1951 the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry were surrounded outside Seoul South Korea and were in danger of being overrun....USAF boxcars air dropped food and ammunition to enable them to hold out and defeat the Chinese People’s Army at Kapyong...I believe they also dropped bridge segments into the Chosin Reservoir area that saved US Marines during their withdrawal.
C119s were used in Korea and Vietnam as transports and gunships, its Fairchild produced brother was the c123 provider
Olá BABY! Eu tenho Ótimas recordações dessa aeronave à 50 anos passados como pára-quedista militar brasileiro.
No seu tempo o C119 foi operacional, eficiente e útil em todas as missões militares onde atuou. Era chamado por nós de O Vagão Voador, Charuto e Pão de forma! Bons tempos…kkkkk 😁🦅
There is one sitting at Hagerstown MD AIRPORT and one at GENESEO NY AIRPORT.
Were these also called “packets”? The pod on top is a jet pod for jet assisted take off when fully loaded. Not a great looker from any angle, but did donkey-work carrying supplies in the high-altitudes of Himalayas for the Indian Airforce. Great flying machine.
Fairchild C-82's were called Packets, the forerunners of the C-119.
@@cole6854 Strangely enough the Indian AF did call the C119 the Packet ! -Seriously. Nobody seems to know why. The last squadron commander of the India AF C119 squadron is a friend of mine. I hope someday we can give him a ride in the C119.
Had one of these at Ft. Lauderdale airport in the early 70's that flew around now and then but it had twin jets on top.
There still one flying from Lauderdale to the Bahamas, not as often since the storm, or maybe since they have that great new customs at Executive in Pompano
I grew up east of Columbus Indiana and it was an annual occurance to be overflown (at night IIRC) as C119s from Bakalar AFB headed towards exercises (in the Carolinas, I think)
For a minute I thought it was the plane from Hawkins & Powers in Graybull Wy.
You,sir, are correct!
The USAF was making Attack aircraft out of C119s on my tour in 1968-69. Replacing Spookies.
Moroccan Air Force flew these well into the 70s.
I worked on these C119's only they were Gun ships in Vietnam at Phan Rhang AFB. G-model 4 mini guns and famous K-model with 4 mini guns and 2 Gattling guns plus other technology. K-Model had 2 R-3350 and 2 wing mounted Jet engines.
I think this is the plane that sat in Port Lions on Kodiak for years.
when i went to jump school in 1959 this is what we jumped out of
...me too...four jumps 1970...the plane did not have jump doors :)
If not for the existence of this aircraft, a total PoS movie, Flight of the Phoenix, would never have been made!
Fairchild produced the c119 boxcar which was used in Korea and the c123 provider which was used in Vietnam war
I saw one of these at the Turlock Air Museum in Cali. Baby C 130
made 4 jumps at Ft.Benning from this bird. I remember watching the rivits spin around in the floor panels. That was Aug. 1970.
1965 - 66 Tassignano (It) Divisione FOLGORE!!!!
I did mine at Benning in 71- I thought we would get to the end of the runway before takeoff ! These new troopers don't know the fear factor prior to liftoff ! Hope you are well trooper !
Thank you for the good wishes. I am doing well brother and I wish the same for you
Is that a jet engine bolted on top?
mprophet100 The Super Connie had the turbo compound version of the 3330 starting with the 1049C.
C119s were used in Korea and Vietnam, Fairchild also produced the c123
I was in the 908TH air reserve unit in Mobile Alabama 1965 thru 1972. This was our plane. We had Wright R3350's and Pratt& Whitney R4360's in out squadron. Spent many hours working on and flying g in these old birds. They were ok for their time but we're completely outdone by the C-130's.
Funny how you don't appreciate something until it's gone. When l was a kid,back in the late 40s early 50s l lived just a couple of miles from USAF air base Burtonwood here in the UK. We used to stop and watch the big war planes coming and going,but the Boxcars and Packets were so common and frequent that we never even looked up when one flew over. Now they've all gone. Then again,they're an ancient reminder of the past l suppose...as indeed am l.
Shout out if Flight of The Phoenix brought you here!
As a kid I loved to here this plane, and C124s taking off form Hill AFB. It was music, it was power, it was great.
The C-119 in various versions, had either the R-4360 or the R-3350 engines, I do not recall which dash it was...I saw them both in the service. The Pratt and Whitney Engines did not burn as much oil as the Wrights did..
that is that ting on top
@colindhowell Thanks for that, checked out the photo, and low and behold, it was taken at Heathrow, gonna see if they have a five engined El Al 707 now, did you know about them? :))
Ahh, nothing like the starting of radial engines.
Jump school at Ft. Benning August of 1969., they shook and smoked on startup which worried some of us newbies.
i was at benning in 1968 for airborne training also. these planes were awful. on our first jump we had two aborted take-offs and finally flew on the third try. i was never again as happy to exit a plane or helicopter as i was that day.
I went in June of 1968 and jumped out of these planes too.
I was at Ft. Benning in '64, working in Officer Personnel in Building 4. I used to sit and watch those jump towers and wonder how on earth you guys could do that. I wonder if the towers are still there after all these years.
still there
Thanks. Like I mentioned, I wasn't around the 4360's very much (as an Avionics/Instrument person, worked a lot on the R-2800's, and their instrument systems). I was always facinated by the 4360's - didn't it have 28 cylinders, A,B,C, & D banks, offset?. Seems certain versions were rated at 3,500 HP, as I recall. 56 spark plugs! Wow! What a monster!! N-6395T
I was an instrument tech and instructor from 1970 to 1980. I heard that sometime before I went to tech school that instrument techs were sent to watch repair school. Was that true? I assume you were a tech earlier than me.
Back in the day we called them flying coffins.
My dad called them flying coffins as well. Dad was a radio operator. He flew as a crewman on C-47’s, C-54’s and C-119’s. It was the only aircraft he crewed that scared him. He said they were a hydraulic nightmare. Leaked like a sieve. He told me that on one flight the crew had piss in the hydraulic fluid reservoir to keep the pressure up! Dad also said that in a flat spin you couldn’t bail out. That he didn’t like either. My father flew in C-54’s in the Berlin Airlift. He was a 22 year Air Force veteran 1947 to 1969. I miss him.
@@davidpaterline4165 I'm happy your father survived his time in 119's, many didn't.
there aren't many airworthy planes with the R-4360, these days. 2 stratocruisers are undergoing restoration, though. one by the Berlin Airlift Organization, the other is rumored to be Clay Lacey restoring a C-97 to a B377 in United livery.
I've been everywhere, man.
Yes great intro. The best part of the movie maybe
Initially, I thought that the pod on top was a radar of some sort. Looking aft, it appears to be a jet engine. An alternative to J.A.T.O.?