Imagine being a working actor, your agent gets you an audition... you're just a normal person. And you end up being cast to work on this. That's all I could think of when I was watching the dancing girls. Like, what's going through their heads.
@@styleissubstance. I mean theoretically you could do another / updated video on the whole thing or just Cremaster 3, since you‘re still active. Especially with people falsely obscuring the meaning to fit their agenda / worldview in recent times it‘s good to have someone based giving the world a more informed view at this & the popularity of your analysis kinda screams for more. Someone re-uploaded the whole cycle in full length to youtube a month ago btw.
I read he was intending to release the series about ten years ago but was prohibited by the owners of his artwork. They bought expensive art and the cremaster series was part of the package and enabled him the budget to make the films. People paid for these private films and didn’t want them to be shared so the only way to see them is at art museums or film retrospectives. I read this a while back so details and my memory is fuzzy, but he did try and was stopped when there was a potential lawsuit.
@@djstarsign it's funny because I know someone who got one of the movies from goodwill and I read of people talking about people owning the film wanted to get rid of it but nobody wanted to pay the huge price so they were selling it for barely anything I know that was ten years ago, but goes to show no matter how hard you try you can't artifiically inflate the price of something without much demand for it (let's be honest, the cremaster cycle is pretty obscure) It's not the director's fault though, it's the fault of the asshats who wanted it to be "rare" and expensive
I find Barney an interesting artist, however I can't help but wonder why he didn't take the time to pursue better cinematography. While the characters and costumes are always intriguing, I find the lighting, staging and camera work to be lazy and underwhelming. I feel that if you're going to present a VISUAL experience... then bring all the components to their peak. Yes, it can be argued that his 'cheap aesthetic' is a comment in itself, much in the way Warhol or John Waters have approached their work, but at the end of the day and over time... it just doesn't have the power like we find in something like "The Holy Mountain" by Jodorowsky.
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Not surprised at all. I watched these back when they came out when I was a teenage. They still kinda haunt me. Maybe the most bizarre disturbing stuff Ive seen on film
This film still stands, in my mind, as a towering testament to filmmaker pretention and solipsism, the out-of-touch, insular nature of the world of criticism, and the willingness of people to embrace emptiness as long as it is sufficiently scatological and disturbing to watch. These films have absolutely zero redeeming or artistic value, and Matthew Barney is a fraud. These films don't explore any ideas of substance and have no meaning, but Barney has nevertheless managed to con a significant number of people so terrified of not "getting it" that they won't call this out for what it is - a technically incompetent, philosophically bankrupt, narratively blank exercise in pretension, narcissism, and depravity. This film is everything fascists accuse modern art of being. It is not even worthy of being burned.
It’s equally sad that your criticism would be an important part of understanding art , but no one cares anymore , so you’re critique is equally as irrelevant as much as it is irreverent. So you sink to the depths stabbing a collection of art as you go down with it into nothingness and obscurity.
I think the same!! It is ironic because his ex-wife Bjork, who also likes strange and "transgressive" audiovisual art, at least if there are deep, emotional, transcendental messages and letters of love to life and the universe, I am not as curious as Bjork. She even got inspiration for her album Vulnicura when she divorced him.
Not too mention a damn waste of classic cars (all the cars destroyed in the third film were really rare) and it’s not even exciting when they were destroyed
I feel like this project had a very good concept, and very interesting and beautiful imagery... but it's also very pretentious. It certainly could have been shorter and more accessible. Making it so unaccessible is a classic way to give value to something that is really not that valuable. part 2, and 3 are especially pedantic.
So it's apparently really really hard to watch these videos now a days. But I got to watch the entire series recently. So I'm taking an art class at a random community college out in the middle of nowhere. And somehow my teacher was talking to one of his friends about how he loved the Cremaster series and his friend randomly said "Oh I can get those for you if you want" and he managed to get a complete, genuine, set of the entire series on discs for free. So he just played the entire series for us in class. Having connections is crazy
That's how i felt about "On the Silver Globe". Spent decades trying to get my hands on it. And then now, it's readily available for certain film regions after nearly being wiped out from existence.
they've been available in dvd quality for years on torrent sites... on a side note: you shouldn't need connections to watch/look at art, especially something important like cremaster cycle. it's elitist and disgusting, there's already enough money laundering happening in the art world.
I first learned about the Cremaster Cycle from a documentary on PBS at least 20 years ago. I've seen parts of it online (as you said the video quality is sub-optimal) since then, and every so often something makes me want to look up information on it. I feel like the fact its stuck with me all this time tells you something.
Glad I’m not the only one that had to watch this grotesque nightmare while in the Balenciaga p3d0gate rabbit hole. It seems the most sought after and highly praised modern art is a twisted, dark, hyper sexual homage to the occult, as well as overtly exploiting woman, children, and minorities- I bet there’s a connection there somewhere🤔
my comment keeps being removed when I try to talk about all of the symbolism in this movie and the symbolism used in the Balenciaga teddybear photos 😑😒
Yeah it's sick I can't believe this is wtf modern art is. It's disgusting, I'm done wearing name brands or liking much of anyone in the entertainment industry
Watch the latest dr.strange movie, it has overt occultic symbolism throughout the entire film. The villian is a red head women with horns, trying to take souls
There is no Bet - These people are the minions of Hell and Evil... When you read of the Crusaders, it all seems to connect and make sense..... This is PURE FUCKING EVIL.
I saw the show at the Guggenheim back in the day, loved his work, find it inspiring to this day. I am a fan of Fellini's more experimental films as well as David Lynch so this was not that hard to palette. The installation was amazing. There are so many comments in here hating on his work, on the pretentious nature of the act of making these works. My challenge is to elevate your own work above this rather than chop it down. Just because it does not fit your world view of art at this moment does not prevent it being a relevant work of art in it's own right.
I found your channel today while looking up what the cremaster cycle was. So far i've watched this video, the most recent ones on salo and the on possession (one of my favorite films) I'm absolutely in love with your way of analysing film. Very thankful to have stumbled upon your channel. Keep up the good work!
regardless of your opinion on pretention, you gotta give it to Barney for making an incredible thematic series. long winded? sure, but in the same way as an epic poem
I saw this whole exibit live at the gugenhiem museum in NYC back in 2003. That scene from cremaster 3 where he is climbing up that white room actually takes place in the Gugenhiem museum. When you are walking up the spiral walk way, there is a big TV screen in the center that is playing that scene from cremaster 3. It feels like you are in the movie. There were would be other elements from the movie as you walk up the ramp, like a pile of potatoes that the woman was cutting with her shoe in that one scene. It was a really wierd experience. It made me feel like I was on drugs. My friend stole one of the potatoes.
I saw the exhibit as well. I had a HUGE hang over from being at the Roxy all night. My friends and I really enjoyed people watching at the museum ... The looks on some peoples faces not knowing what they got themselves into was priceless. 😆
basically impossible to find online, i believe Barney viewed his films as unique pieces of art and therefore only watchable in their original format, 35mm projection. i'm hoping certain museums with 35mm projection capabilities will showcase this series when an appropriate anniversary comes around!
just saw all 5 projected on 35mm at the metrograph in nyc. unbelievable how much more these images pop. hope you get a chance to see them this way someday soon!
In C3, that's not just any building, that's the Chrysler Building, which (at least on one level) is a stand-in for Solomon's temple, a central symbol in Freemasonry, another symbolic system from which Barney draws heavily in this film. Barney attaches great symbolic importance to the Chrysler building as an American icon and chose it deliberately. Also, the character at the beginning is Irish mythological hero Fionn mac Cumhaill (or Finn MacCool in the older Anglicized spelling). The giant is Fingal. The story relates the myth of the building of the Giant's Causeway.
I watched the whole series on the big screen as part of a retrospective and it was amazing. I had been wanting to see these for many years so sitting through the whole thing was at times tedious but definitely worth it. From what I remember, there was a lot of Freemason stuff in a few of them as well. There was a time when they were all on RUclips and I’d rewatch them from time to time, then they were all disabled 😢
The 5 films deal with sexual/ gender differentiation from both an individual and a cultural levels, including the sexual underlayment of hierarchy and power. The Cremaster muscle is the first physical definition of possible gender. If you hear him talk, you just get confused, but watch the films in their entirety and you get it. This is so relevant currently. He brought beauty to contemporary experimental film-making. And each thing created for the films, each prop and set piece, is visual art as well, and he hired professional film and theatre people to do the production work, to make it sort of competitive with normal Hollywood films. By the way, most people interpret the blimps as ovaries.
Without this commentary I would have just about as much insight into it as into a strangers dream. And Ive been an artist for 40 years. Is it not simply contemporary surrealism?
The thing about contemporary art is no one really knows the meaning, you see what you want to see. 99% the artists don't even know, if you interview them 10 times you'll have 10 different answers. I personally don't like contemporary art, I feel that random associations and dreams I make up in my mind are enough to entertain my soul with "art". We all make art, we just don't display it
No it's not. It's full of massonic symbolism so people who are in the occult clearly understand the references, it's only common fools trying to find the meaning in this dark ritualistic sh*t in their art classes
Great video! I'd love to see your thoughts on River of Fundament someday. Also (and this might be a pretty damning question so feel free to ignore) where did you find such high quality rips?
Thanks for watching! I'll consider it. As for the films, all I can say is... Arrgh! 🏴☠️ I couldn't find Cremaster 5 in good quality but I pulled higher definition clips from the Conversation with Matthew Barney documentary.
Thank you for this! That's a very interesting insight on the series. Barney's work has SO MANY LAYERS it becomes really difficult to keep track of all the possible meanings. But this is a great analysis!! If you don't mind, I'd like to link your video on a slides presentation I did on the cremaster cycle for my class
Everytime I see "art" pieces like this, I think of a bunch of elites sitting in the background gold clapping chanting "dance you little monkey, dance". ❣️
wow. you just collected a bunch of my favorite movies. I think we are moviemates "bro". :)) I am looking for those which i didn't saw, but i already trust in your taste. Thanks for your time and channel.
I saw this in the Guggenheim in the early 2000’s say what you want , being a first year art student I knew I would never be able to do something like this . It’s prolific if anything
so... how DID you actually get to watch the films? i've been aware of Cremaster for a while but last i heard they were impossible to get a hold of; only a couple of them and only partially? i heard of an elite film streaming club with a werid latin(?) name that claimed they had them all. did i miss something huge in terms of their distribution?
Cremaster 3 is readily available - got a really cool bit where hardcore bands Agnostic Front and Murphy's Law face off acoustically, either ends of an art gallery, and Barney crawls through a mosh pit to do something with masonic symbols.
Saw these back in the day when the Guggenheim was having its big Matthew Barney show. Some aspects of the film are interesting, some brilliant, though much of it tends to disappear up its own backside. Is it a brilliant feat of imagination or a bunch of pretentious twaddle? Yes.
@@styleissubstance also on the topic of being “co-opted” the top comment on your video is about “balenciaga pedogate”. i don’t know if you’d count that is co-option, but…
@@Bringadingus it is a historically right-wing position to call art “degenerate”. what specifically about the cremaster cycle (which i’m assuming you’ve watched) calls out to you as representing any pedophilia or abuse?
You forgot to mention that the people around the operating table are dressed in masonic regalia and that Barney's orifices are bursting with vaseline (indicative of rape and torture) and that they are stuffing his mouth with gags (representing the silencing of the child) and then the scenes with the lonely guy scooping out large spoonfuls of vaseline held within a crucible or whatever, and then violently lobbing the spoonfuls of vaseline into one of the corners of the museum (representing the compartmentalized feelings of rage and isolation of the repressed memories). See feminist,.art historian-scholar, artist and survivor of ritual abuse Lynn Brunet for the rest
@@Bejejwa I've known God my entire life. I grew up homeschooled in a Christian household and was seldom exposed to non-Christians. I attended church every Sunday and Wednesday. I was active in different churches between denominations. My uncle was a pastor and so were family friends. I accepted Jesus into my life in 2009 and was baptized in 2010. I took part in three church mission trips out of state and helped the Lakota Indian reservation and post-tornado Joplin, Missouri were I fed families and built shelters. I attended two Catholic retreats, once as a student and once as a helper. I prayed without ceasing for several years. I attended a Christian retreat in Denver, Colorado where I helped homeless people. I attended two different Christian groups at my University, as well as a Muslim group. I acted as a student helper for different age demographics at different church. I brought non-believers to church and then to God. I saved an acquaintance from suicide with the help of religion. I have sung Christmas carols to the elderly, recited Bible verses for youth groups, and confessed on stage my love for the Lord. All these good deeds do not amount to the most important thing- I believed. And through it all, I sought to be the most honest version of myself as God intended but that was not feasible as a man because that's not what my soul is. The people around me loved conditionally and eventually I knew they did not have my best interest at heart and I began seeing God in a broader way.
@@styleissubstance Why do you defend such "art"? These are acts of pedo "elites". I've been watching The Cremaster series since 2006 and it's super distrubing to say the least. Now, the whole Balenciaga scandal's out, that feeling became worse and I literally feel sick whenever I see visuals, so called "art" like this. I'm sorry, but it's utterly distrurbing.
There are at least two factual errors. First, the balloons in Cremaster 1 don't represent the testicles but the ovaries (the entire film is only about the feminine, with only female characters). The beginning and the end of Cremaster 3 does not take place on the Isle of Man. Matthew Barney took up the myth of the creation of this island. And then, Isle of Man is where number 4 is located!
I think there is dual symbolism to those balloons and one thing the films emphasize is potentiality for male or female, but you're right that the blatant ovarian symbolism deserves a mention. It's so obvious really. I'm really just giving my interpretation. I believe you're wrong about Cremaster 3. The moments with the giant are set on the Isle of man, as is the entirety of 4. If I recall correctly, there's even an on-screen subtitle stating it is the Isle of Man.
@@styleissubstance You're right about the double symbolism and the masculine or feminine potential (we find it also with other elements which rise or fall). For Cremaster 3, the battle of the Irish giant and the other Scottish man, refers to the mythological creation of the Isle of Man (search for Finn Mac Cumaill). At the end, the rock which falls into the sea becomes the island = a link to the Cremaster 4 ;)
@@styleissubstance okay you have some points, (just finished watching).But as a gay man this series has always been about commercialized society selling what manhood is in relation to the commodity of women and breaking free of that binary. Legacy being more than biological
All the ways in which a man can be hated, abused, used, destroyed, worshipped, confused, and still never reach heaven. Instead, the marine kingdom, fallen angels, and Nephilim remain this man's god, and he refuses to understand why the Lord uses the simple things to confound the wise. Peace is NOT simple without God. It will always be that way, but with God comes the *gift* of peace. Try Him, seek Him, and he will reveal to you exactly what he made you to be. Confusion is not the beginning of wisdom; the fear of God is. The body is not a playground, flesh, bones, blood are not to be manipulated, destroyed, or anything of the sort. It houses a soul that is tormented by the trauma you inflict on the body, and no amount of money, freedom to be as freaky and "unique" will ever get rid of the stains of a desensitized and demoralized soul. Turn to Jesus, repent and confess all your sins before, BEFORE JESUS COMES BACK! According to the will of the Father let it be so.
I'd suspend judgement on that until you feel satisfied that you do understand it. Sometimes the emperor is wearing no clothes. That's not necessarily the case here but it happens way more often than I'd like, when it comes to big shots in the art world. Also learning a "new language" like the way modern art uses symbols and references can be quite daunting, but like anything it can be learned. Don't assume you're dumb because you don't get it immediately when you've never been exposed to it before.
Yeah it's not a super easy find but there are some very good vendors out there that deal with out of prints and rarities, do you know where to find a decent quelity video of cremaster 5? @@styleissubstance
How did transphobes find this video, and more importantly how do they even know about these films? Did they type “Cremaster Cycle” into the search bar and stumbled their way here?
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Imagine being a working actor, your agent gets you an audition... you're just a normal person. And you end up being cast to work on this. That's all I could think of when I was watching the dancing girls. Like, what's going through their heads.
I want that Reddit AMA so bad.
You’re basically the only RUclips channel that review this movie that I know of great job
Thank you :) I kind of wish I talked more about the masonic imagery though lol.
@@styleissubstance. I mean theoretically you could do another / updated video on the whole thing or just Cremaster 3, since you‘re still active. Especially with people falsely obscuring the meaning to fit their agenda / worldview in recent times it‘s good to have someone based giving the world a more informed view at this & the popularity of your analysis kinda screams for more.
Someone re-uploaded the whole cycle in full length to youtube a month ago btw.
Thanks for covering this - all i could find about Cremaster was "it's weird" (which, yeah I agree lol) but I couldn't find a good analysis anywhere!
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What is the relation between Cremaster series & this Jon Maus video ? I'm not following.
I think his work is visually stunning but ultimately really fucking boring.
Criterion collection need to release this series fr
I read he was intending to release the series about ten years ago but was prohibited by the owners of his artwork. They bought expensive art and the cremaster series was part of the package and enabled him the budget to make the films. People paid for these private films and didn’t want them to be shared so the only way to see them is at art museums or film retrospectives. I read this a while back so details and my memory is fuzzy, but he did try and was stopped when there was a potential lawsuit.
cremaster can at least be found online, im still holding out hope that river of fundament will get a video release one day...
@@djstarsign it's funny because I know someone who got one of the movies from goodwill and I read of people talking about people owning the film wanted to get rid of it but nobody wanted to pay the huge price so they were selling it for barely anything
I know that was ten years ago, but goes to show no matter how hard you try you can't artifiically inflate the price of something without much demand for it (let's be honest, the cremaster cycle is pretty obscure)
It's not the director's fault though, it's the fault of the asshats who wanted it to be "rare" and expensive
@@almond3066 That’s hype culture in a nutshell.
Especially Cremaster 5. We need a cleaner copy!
I find Barney an interesting artist, however I can't help but wonder why he didn't take the time to pursue better cinematography. While the characters and costumes are always intriguing, I find the lighting, staging and camera work to be lazy and underwhelming. I feel that if you're going to present a VISUAL experience... then bring all the components to their peak. Yes, it can be argued that his 'cheap aesthetic' is a comment in itself, much in the way Warhol or John Waters have approached their work, but at the end of the day and over time... it just doesn't have the power like we find in something like "The Holy Mountain" by Jodorowsky.
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 Could you further explain on what you mean by Matthew being a "chomo"? I couldn't find any info on it
Anyone here after Balenciaga Pedogate
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I didn’t know there was a connection
Mhm! Lead me right here!
He was behind the set design in the ad. He may be the one that made all the decisions.
Not surprised at all. I watched these back when they came out when I was a teenage. They still kinda haunt me. Maybe the most bizarre disturbing stuff Ive seen on film
This film still stands, in my mind, as a towering testament to filmmaker pretention and solipsism, the out-of-touch, insular nature of the world of criticism, and the willingness of people to embrace emptiness as long as it is sufficiently scatological and disturbing to watch. These films have absolutely zero redeeming or artistic value, and Matthew Barney is a fraud. These films don't explore any ideas of substance and have no meaning, but Barney has nevertheless managed to con a significant number of people so terrified of not "getting it" that they won't call this out for what it is - a technically incompetent, philosophically bankrupt, narratively blank exercise in pretension, narcissism, and depravity. This film is everything fascists accuse modern art of being. It is not even worthy of being burned.
Basically.
It’s equally sad that your criticism would be an important part of understanding art , but no one cares anymore , so you’re critique is equally as irrelevant as much as it is irreverent. So you sink to the depths stabbing a collection of art as you go down with it into nothingness and obscurity.
I think the same!! It is ironic because his ex-wife Bjork, who also likes strange and "transgressive" audiovisual art, at least if there are deep, emotional, transcendental messages and letters of love to life and the universe, I am not as curious as Bjork. She even got inspiration for her album Vulnicura when she divorced him.
In my opinion Matthew Barney is A Pretentious “Artist”
Can someone explain the relation between Cremaster series & this Jon Maus video ? I'm not following.
Holy shit, these movies are pretentious as hell.
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U should watch river of fundament by him .
They are quite beautiful but I see your point
Gotta admit, it's pretty goofy
Not too mention a damn waste of classic cars (all the cars destroyed in the third film were really rare) and it’s not even exciting when they were destroyed
I feel like this project had a very good concept, and very interesting and beautiful imagery... but it's also very pretentious. It certainly could have been shorter and more accessible. Making it so unaccessible is a classic way to give value to something that is really not that valuable. part 2, and 3 are especially pedantic.
you are boring
I love your channel. I don't say it often enough, but I really appreciate you approach and insights.
So it's apparently really really hard to watch these videos now a days. But I got to watch the entire series recently. So I'm taking an art class at a random community college out in the middle of nowhere. And somehow my teacher was talking to one of his friends about how he loved the Cremaster series and his friend randomly said "Oh I can get those for you if you want" and he managed to get a complete, genuine, set of the entire series on discs for free. So he just played the entire series for us in class. Having connections is crazy
That's how i felt about "On the Silver Globe". Spent decades trying to get my hands on it. And then now, it's readily available for certain film regions after nearly being wiped out from existence.
they've been available in dvd quality for years on torrent sites... on a side note: you shouldn't need connections to watch/look at art, especially something important like cremaster cycle. it's elitist and disgusting, there's already enough money laundering happening in the art world.
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@@thelivingmanpart2marina abramovich more freaks on open
@@fckutube6949 jeff koons is another... but they even fuck over the dead guys like Pollack
I really appreciate you covering obscure films like this! Keep it up dude I'm loving the work
I first learned about the Cremaster Cycle from a documentary on PBS at least 20 years ago. I've seen parts of it online (as you said the video quality is sub-optimal) since then, and every so often something makes me want to look up information on it. I feel like the fact its stuck with me all this time tells you something.
where can you watch it in the quality its meant to be watched in?
Glad I’m not the only one that had to watch this grotesque nightmare while in the Balenciaga p3d0gate rabbit hole. It seems the most sought after and highly praised modern art is a twisted, dark, hyper sexual homage to the occult, as well as overtly exploiting woman, children, and minorities- I bet there’s a connection there somewhere🤔
my comment keeps being removed when I try to talk about all of the symbolism in this movie and the symbolism used in the Balenciaga teddybear photos 😑😒
Yeah it's sick I can't believe this is wtf modern art is. It's disgusting, I'm done wearing name brands or liking much of anyone in the entertainment industry
Watch the latest dr.strange movie, it has overt occultic symbolism throughout the entire film. The villian is a red head women with horns, trying to take souls
There's a connection completely.
There is no Bet - These people are the minions of Hell and Evil... When you read of the Crusaders, it all seems to connect and make sense.....
This is PURE FUCKING EVIL.
I saw the show at the Guggenheim back in the day, loved his work, find it inspiring to this day. I am a fan of Fellini's more experimental films as well as David Lynch so this was not that hard to palette. The installation was amazing. There are so many comments in here hating on his work, on the pretentious nature of the act of making these works. My challenge is to elevate your own work above this rather than chop it down. Just because it does not fit your world view of art at this moment does not prevent it being a relevant work of art in it's own right.
I found your channel today while looking up what the cremaster cycle was.
So far i've watched this video, the most recent ones on salo and the on possession (one of my favorite films)
I'm absolutely in love with your way of analysing film. Very thankful to have stumbled upon your channel. Keep up the good work!
regardless of your opinion on pretention, you gotta give it to Barney for making an incredible thematic series. long winded? sure, but in the same way as an epic poem
I saw this whole exibit live at the gugenhiem museum in NYC back in 2003. That scene from cremaster 3 where he is climbing up that white room actually takes place in the Gugenhiem museum. When you are walking up the spiral walk way, there is a big TV screen in the center that is playing that scene from cremaster 3. It feels like you are in the movie. There were would be other elements from the movie as you walk up the ramp, like a pile of potatoes that the woman was cutting with her shoe in that one scene. It was a really wierd experience. It made me feel like I was on drugs. My friend stole one of the potatoes.
I saw the exhibit as well. I had a HUGE hang over from being at the Roxy all night. My friends and I really enjoyed people watching at the museum ... The looks on some peoples faces not knowing what they got themselves into was priceless. 😆
your friend is the yoko ono of potatoes
basically impossible to find online, i believe Barney viewed his films as unique pieces of art and therefore only watchable in their original format, 35mm projection. i'm hoping certain museums with 35mm projection capabilities will showcase this series when an appropriate anniversary comes around!
just saw all 5 projected on 35mm at the metrograph in nyc. unbelievable how much more these images pop. hope you get a chance to see them this way someday soon!
Looking at this movie give me discomfort
Great vid. Keep up the good work.
this analysis is actually amazing, thank you so much for sharing your point of view
In C3, that's not just any building, that's the Chrysler Building, which (at least on one level) is a stand-in for Solomon's temple, a central symbol in Freemasonry, another symbolic system from which Barney draws heavily in this film. Barney attaches great symbolic importance to the Chrysler building as an American icon and chose it deliberately. Also, the character at the beginning is Irish mythological hero Fionn mac Cumhaill (or Finn MacCool in the older Anglicized spelling). The giant is Fingal. The story relates the myth of the building of the Giant's Causeway.
This video is wonderful, I love Matthew Barney, his genius is playful.
Amazing video♡.
Matthew Barney really said trans rights, huh?
might as well have
I watched the whole series on the big screen as part of a retrospective and it was amazing. I had been wanting to see these for many years so sitting through the whole thing was at times tedious but definitely worth it. From what I remember, there was a lot of Freemason stuff in a few of them as well. There was a time when they were all on RUclips and I’d rewatch them from time to time, then they were all disabled 😢
i just watched it in cinema the other week (apart from 3) and while it had its moments, overall it was kind of a shitty experience.
only found parts 1 and 3 on here :(
Morons whats wrong with u some freak crap
that was so well dissected. beautiful job with your analysis!
The 5 films deal with sexual/ gender differentiation from both an individual and a cultural levels, including the sexual underlayment of hierarchy and power. The Cremaster muscle is the first physical definition of possible gender. If you hear him talk, you just get confused, but watch the films in their entirety and you get it. This is so relevant currently. He brought beauty to contemporary experimental film-making. And each thing created for the films, each prop and set piece, is visual art as well, and he hired professional film and theatre people to do the production work, to make it sort of competitive with normal Hollywood films. By the way, most people interpret the blimps as ovaries.
Yeah the blimps are ovaries I must have just had balls on my mind lol.
Balenciaga bear
Without this commentary I would have just about as much insight into it as into a strangers dream. And Ive been an artist for 40 years. Is it not simply contemporary surrealism?
Where did you find such high quality versions of these movies?
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Just knowing this book was in the balenciaga shoot is insane. Very disturbing and occultish to say the least.
A wonderful review, thank you
The thing about contemporary art is no one really knows the meaning, you see what you want to see. 99% the artists don't even know, if you interview them 10 times you'll have 10 different answers. I personally don't like contemporary art, I feel that random associations and dreams I make up in my mind are enough to entertain my soul with "art". We all make art, we just don't display it
No it's not. It's full of massonic symbolism so people who are in the occult clearly understand the references, it's only common fools trying to find the meaning in this dark ritualistic sh*t in their art classes
Great video! I'd love to see your thoughts on River of Fundament someday. Also (and this might be a pretty damning question so feel free to ignore) where did you find such high quality rips?
Thanks for watching! I'll consider it.
As for the films, all I can say is... Arrgh! 🏴☠️
I couldn't find Cremaster 5 in good quality but I pulled higher definition clips from the Conversation with Matthew Barney documentary.
Thank you for this! That's a very interesting insight on the series. Barney's work has SO MANY LAYERS it becomes really difficult to keep track of all the possible meanings. But this is a great analysis!! If you don't mind, I'd like to link your video on a slides presentation I did on the cremaster cycle for my class
Feel free!
Email me the presentation too. styleissubstance1@gmail.com
@@styleissubstance Thanks! Sure wil! (it's in Brazilian Portuguese btw, but it's more or less a translation of the synopsis from the official website)
This is sick - more content plz
Apparently I am wasn't the only one thinking about cremaster this week, great video!
disgusting and disturbing to say the least
Everytime I see "art" pieces like this, I think of a bunch of elites sitting in the background gold clapping chanting "dance you little monkey, dance". ❣️
Great video! I've been looking for a good breakdown of The Cremaster Cycle and I think you nailed it!
Thanks for this. I was curious. I need subtitles for the narrator, though.
Those movies are nothing but pure nonsense.
I think I should have watched one of these before viewing this video. But hey, it was worth it.
wow. you just collected a bunch of my favorite movies. I think we are moviemates "bro". :)) I am looking for those which i didn't saw, but i already trust in your taste. Thanks for your time and channel.
Hello where did u watch it ?
Thank u ur video is amazing
This is a great analysis! Thank you
Guggenheim would be wise to host the series again next year (20). Thanks for your survey, I did enjoy it.
I saw this in the Guggenheim in the early 2000’s say what you want , being a first year art student I knew I would never be able to do something like this .
It’s prolific if anything
This shit is so evil. Wake up! It’s right in front of you.
7:05 that was actually some good metal
And it’s Dave Lombardo‘s birthday today! That’s what brought me here! Also I was triggered by really stupid bee video and I needed to undo the damage
so... how DID you actually get to watch the films? i've been aware of Cremaster for a while but last i heard they were impossible to get a hold of; only a couple of them and only partially? i heard of an elite film streaming club with a werid latin(?) name that claimed they had them all. did i miss something huge in terms of their distribution?
I have no idea and no connection to that.
Cremaster 3 is readily available - got a really cool bit where hardcore bands Agnostic Front and Murphy's Law face off acoustically, either ends of an art gallery, and Barney crawls through a mosh pit to do something with masonic symbols.
in cremaster 3, it’s not the isle of man it’s ireland (giants causeway), it’s the story of fionn mccool, an irish tale.
I needed this video thx, very interesting
Horrible
I think you're interpretations of these films are very personal.
So much freemason symbolism
Can you please explain where and why? Thanks
Can you please explain where?
@@MattHawkOfficial Cremaster 3: The all seeing eye, the twin eagles, the square, the compass, etcetera.
Saw these back in the day when the Guggenheim was having its big Matthew Barney show. Some aspects of the film are interesting, some brilliant, though much of it tends to disappear up its own backside. Is it a brilliant feat of imagination or a bunch of pretentious twaddle? Yes.
5:40 Cremaster 2: Electric Boogaloo 🤣
This is like a modern version of The Holy Mountain
balenciaga
So how can one see the Cremaster Cycle? How did you even acquire these clips?
Are you supposed to watch these movies 12345 or 41523
I'd go 1 through 5
Just because I like art does not mean im pretentious... does it? DUN DUN DUN!!!!
And I thought a clockwork orange was strange this is 😒
The visuals are surreal, and some of them good. The content is perverse weird, and mildly disturbing.
So much depends
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The small cremaster
Muscle
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Testicle
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Sooooo anyone else trying to watch these movies while stoned?!
how do you feel about your video being co-opted by conspiracy theorists?
also, fantastic video. i am trying to gain access to the cremaster cycle and it is very tough
Is it?
@@styleissubstance do you have access to the cremaster cycle at all?
@@styleissubstance also on the topic of being “co-opted” the top comment on your video is about “balenciaga pedogate”. i don’t know if you’d count that is co-option, but…
@@Bringadingus it is a historically right-wing position to call art “degenerate”. what specifically about the cremaster cycle (which i’m assuming you’ve watched) calls out to you as representing any pedophilia or abuse?
Where can I watch these?
You forgot to mention that the people around the operating table are dressed in masonic regalia and that Barney's orifices are bursting with vaseline (indicative of rape and torture) and that they are stuffing his mouth with gags (representing the silencing of the child) and then the scenes with the lonely guy scooping out large spoonfuls of vaseline held within a crucible or whatever, and then violently lobbing the spoonfuls of vaseline into one of the corners of the museum (representing the compartmentalized feelings of rage and isolation of the repressed memories). See feminist,.art historian-scholar, artist and survivor of ritual abuse Lynn Brunet for the rest
Disturbing. Overanalyzing sexuality and gender… it’s simple! Genesis 5:2
God made me a transsexual.
@@styleissubstance what do you know about God
@@Bejejwa I've known God my entire life. I grew up homeschooled in a Christian household and was seldom exposed to non-Christians. I attended church every Sunday and Wednesday. I was active in different churches between denominations. My uncle was a pastor and so were family friends. I accepted Jesus into my life in 2009 and was baptized in 2010. I took part in three church mission trips out of state and helped the Lakota Indian reservation and post-tornado Joplin, Missouri were I fed families and built shelters. I attended two Catholic retreats, once as a student and once as a helper. I prayed without ceasing for several years. I attended a Christian retreat in Denver, Colorado where I helped homeless people. I attended two different Christian groups at my University, as well as a Muslim group. I acted as a student helper for different age demographics at different church. I brought non-believers to church and then to God. I saved an acquaintance from suicide with the help of religion. I have sung Christmas carols to the elderly, recited Bible verses for youth groups, and confessed on stage my love for the Lord. All these good deeds do not amount to the most important thing- I believed. And through it all, I sought to be the most honest version of myself as God intended but that was not feasible as a man because that's not what my soul is. The people around me loved conditionally and eventually I knew they did not have my best interest at heart and I began seeing God in a broader way.
@tayanprod what 🤣
@@styleissubstance Why do you defend such "art"? These are acts of pedo "elites". I've been watching The Cremaster series since 2006 and it's super distrubing to say the least. Now, the whole Balenciaga scandal's out, that feeling became worse and I literally feel sick whenever I see visuals, so called "art" like this. I'm sorry, but it's utterly distrurbing.
Did I just hear someone say,
*who cares* ..?
"Fever dream simulator"
I want wat the creator takes
There are at least two factual errors. First, the balloons in Cremaster 1 don't represent the testicles but the ovaries (the entire film is only about the feminine, with only female characters).
The beginning and the end of Cremaster 3 does not take place on the Isle of Man. Matthew Barney took up the myth of the creation of this island. And then, Isle of Man is where number 4 is located!
I think there is dual symbolism to those balloons and one thing the films emphasize is potentiality for male or female, but you're right that the blatant ovarian symbolism deserves a mention. It's so obvious really. I'm really just giving my interpretation.
I believe you're wrong about Cremaster 3. The moments with the giant are set on the Isle of man, as is the entirety of 4. If I recall correctly, there's even an on-screen subtitle stating it is the Isle of Man.
@@styleissubstance You're right about the double symbolism and the masculine or feminine potential (we find it also with other elements which rise or fall).
For Cremaster 3, the battle of the Irish giant and the other Scottish man, refers to the mythological creation of the Isle of Man (search for Finn Mac Cumaill). At the end, the rock which falls into the sea becomes the island = a link to the Cremaster 4 ;)
It's an interesting watch. No koyaanisqatsi though.
다시봐도 대단..
Great to see you as well
I’m writing myself into the core identity of an artists work and here’s 10 reasons why that’s good
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In your own words you are in love with what is artificial and fake becoming reality.
@@myrrous4284 what lol
@@styleissubstance okay you have some points, (just finished watching).But as a gay man this series has always been about commercialized society selling what manhood is in relation to the commodity of women and breaking free of that binary. Legacy being more than biological
@@myrrous4284 🤢
This is extremely confusing
An ounce of pretension is worth a pound of manure
All the ways in which a man can be hated, abused, used, destroyed, worshipped, confused, and still never reach heaven. Instead, the marine kingdom, fallen angels, and Nephilim remain this man's god, and he refuses to understand why the Lord uses the simple things to confound the wise. Peace is NOT simple without God. It will always be that way, but with God comes the *gift* of peace. Try Him, seek Him, and he will reveal to you exactly what he made you to be. Confusion is not the beginning of wisdom; the fear of God is. The body is not a playground, flesh, bones, blood are not to be manipulated, destroyed, or anything of the sort. It houses a soul that is tormented by the trauma you inflict on the body, and no amount of money, freedom to be as freaky and "unique" will ever get rid of the stains of a desensitized and demoralized soul. Turn to Jesus, repent and confess all your sins before, BEFORE JESUS COMES BACK! According to the will of the Father let it be so.
God made me a transsexual.
@@styleissubstance You know Jesus?
@@Back2Basix sure
@@ashma1298 it's actually brought me a lot of peace
Mountain climber?
This movie is for people with an IQ higher than mine
Just pretentious people
@@JohnDoe-rr1fz yeah, it really is lol
I'd suspend judgement on that until you feel satisfied that you do understand it. Sometimes the emperor is wearing no clothes. That's not necessarily the case here but it happens way more often than I'd like, when it comes to big shots in the art world.
Also learning a "new language" like the way modern art uses symbols and references can be quite daunting, but like anything it can be learned. Don't assume you're dumb because you don't get it immediately when you've never been exposed to it before.
This literally a sound garden music video without music for 40 minutes
That is what Barney wants you to think.
i got the soft cover book for 100 bucks on ebay :D
Do what really lol
I have to buy this
Yeah it's not a super easy find but there are some very good vendors out there that deal with out of prints and rarities, do you know where to find a decent quelity video of cremaster 5? @@styleissubstance
OBRA MAESTRA
FuNny I’m not disgusted at all
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HAUS OF HALO SUPPORTS
How did transphobes find this video, and more importantly how do they even know about these films? Did they type “Cremaster Cycle” into the search bar and stumbled their way here?
Contemporary "art" is grifting...
.......SPECIAL THANKS TO MY CREATOR, THE GOD OF ALL, WHO WILL SOON RID US ALL OF THIS VILE, INHUMANE, AND ABSURDLEY WICKED CREATION BROUGHT TO YOU BY SOCIAL MEDIA WHICH INTENDS TO DEFILE THE HUMAN SPIRIT AND POISON IT'S NORMALCY WITH MESSAGES OF PEDOPHILIA, GROOMING, AND UTTER INSANITY....
TRUST IN GOD - A HIGHER POWER, AND YOU WILL LIVE ON.
All evil ends in evil, just give it some time.
What is a yannick hole??
Yonic