The Windows Refund Day Followup
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Back in 2018, I made a video covering the Windows Refund Day protests that occurred in 1999. Ever since then, I have received a few questions. So let's answer them!
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The pure rage in your voice as you said "the door is locked from the outside!" is truly, pure *bliss*.
I do like how he mentioned this AVGN-style, like how the Nerd tore the Atari 5200 to shreds! Gold.
Yes
His rage was a photo of a grassy hill? 🤔
i like the way you feature your stories better than yourself. it's pretty rare on youtube.
you've been doing Windows videos for a while now, when are you going to do doors?
try to set the night on fiiiiirrreee
I actually was expecting them to be some kind of emergency-only doors where opening them would trigger the fire alarm or something. I guess this is close enough.
Delayed egress alarm possibly, but not a fire alarm. That's against code.
I don't think that would have stopped anyone.
Hehehe. Imagine the alarm going off.
"DANGER! DANGER! LINUX USER WANTING A REFUND!"
Hey the company knows windows. There's a reason for the lack of commercial success behind the little known Microsoft Doors.
Well Microsoft forgot to disable and turn off the whole fire alarm system
Thank you for flying to the other side of the country to film footage of a hill and a locked door, you're truly giving us excellent content
Edit: since there's some confusion, no this isn't supposed to be rude
So much for our entertainment.
Surprisingly not a sarcastic comment.
"Lazy", apparently...
You again...
@@Dan-379 I wasn't being sarcastic. More like thankful
i love this dedication just to prove rude people wrong
It's one thing to just simply tell people that the door is locked. But it's another thing to ACTUALLY go to Microsoft HQ just to prove the "smurt" people wrong.
I very much loved the jab at their laziness.
But really, have none of these people ever worked in an office building?
fuck em, ey?
@@z3roo0 no one asked for this bad take, but you gave it anyway
@@matthewrease2376 *the linux elitist*
After being confused on the need for a follow-up video, I'll admit I burst out laughing at the demonstration. Your dedication here is unmatched. Incredible video.
Watching a MJD video where it's not recorded inside that usual room is so weirdly refreshing
I'm still not convinced he's a real person, though. He's just a disembodied voice and a hand.
(j/k of course)
@@LordHorst ruclips.net/video/i25mWiCTNSU/видео.html This video might convince you otherwise though
*EXACTLY*
It amuses me that all the people who went "duh, use the stairs hurr durr" over people apparently missing such a simple thing themselves forgot the simple thing that doors can be locked, especially to places with restricted access.
It's especially baffling when you consider that basically every commercial building is like this. Hell, I was at Anthrocon last year at DLCC, and that convention center's stairwells are set up so that the only way you're getting out once you go in is to hit the crash bar on at ground level. Only thing keeping you from getting locked out was the fact they propped the doors so attendees could use the stairs since the elevators were already overloaded with fursuiters waiting to leave for the evening.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, that most (actually all) office buildings don't allow any random person from the street to enter their office rooms without authorization - independent in which country you live.
Those lazy Linux users. They could have just simply scaled the side of the building with suction cups.
how would they get in tho? roof door would also be locked lmfao
@@davidboss2160 pickaxe down through the roof
aight suction cup man
@@davidboss2160 In my experience, the roof door is usually unlocked as it is a fire exit, but then they would still be locked in the stairwell lol.
@@quadruple_negative oh lol
I'm actually surprised you were able to get that far up.
I've worked in buildings where there was a gate somewhere in the stairwell blocking publicly accessible floors from secured floors.
that would of fallen under city/county code on if the building could of implemented the security gates in a fire stairwell. only buildings that get this exception are federal buildings.
@@Dallen9 we have the same regulations in my country, simple solution is to attach the lock to the fire alarm and put an extra break in case of emergency on the safe side of the door.
All the dudes snarking about "why didn't the linux users take the stairs?" clearly hasn't been in a big office building. I work in a decent sized office building and these things are more secure than you think. Even hospitals have areas that can only be open by a key card, I also know that from experience.
Are you willing to share said experience?
4:21 because they also reprogrammed the stairs to not have access
this is a joke
_Yes, but actually no_
That's a Linus-level segue.
Oh yeah, that was awesome. You know what else is awesome? This video's sponsor, Linode!
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Linus should advertise just one product.
Birth control. Lol.
He sucks these days, LTT became a kids channel.
I can’t believe absolutely no one who left one of those snarky comments thought “hey if they reprogrammed an elevator to disable the 9th floor, maybe they’ll lock the door to the stairwell.” Like, it’s outstanding that that needed to be said.
I love seeing a brand new Michael MJD video on the weekend!
Same!
@@pixeltablet we know what your browsing history would look like if you had browsing history
@@_Nothsa lmao
The door being locked was actually my first guess about why they didn't take the stairs LOL.
BTW, love your vids!
Microsoft: "Quit now and cake will be served immediately."
"Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the day."
"Microsoft regulations require both hands to be empty before any cake can be served [garbled]."
"Okay. The refund day is over now. You win. Go back to the 9th floor. For your cake.
"Uh oh. Somebody cut the cake. I told them to wait for you, but they did it anyway. There is still some left, though, if you hurry back. "
u couldve replaced the cake with refund
Hahaha yes
Well I might be interested, but does the cake contain any fish shaped volatile organic compounds, or sediment shaped sediment?
6:11 That's the most emotion-filled sentence ever spoken in this channel, other than the Brexit phone
"Why didn't they just take the stairs?"
Me, someone who has been in the security industry for the better part of a decade: lol
I’m honestly surprised they even reached the elevators.
As someone who is also in the security industry, I still didn't think of that lmao
Personally, I would've liked for them to have broken the door down, but eh.
@@badlydrawncars6460 it happens lol
@@RaeIsGaee these security doors are really strong and won't break easily, and while the people did raise their voice against Microsoft, I don't think they're rude enough to break down the door.
As someone who mainly uses Windows, sometimes Linux.
I still felt bad for all Linux users that just wanted a refund :/
Yea.
Given I am more of a Linux user than Windows, my words may sound wrong but PCs could be sold cheaper if these OEM machine didn't come with an OS in the first place.
Just driver CDs or diskettes.
But then again, especially back in the 90's this would have been to much to ask from a user, to install the OS on their own.
The fact that half of a cheap laptop's price can just be "The Windows Tax" is outrageous to me. How is this not a monopoly?!
@@rkvkydqf The licenses OEMs get are incredibly cheap due to volume, and because they're also solely locked to the one device. Maybe $25-50.
I'm not saying I wouldn't like the option to pay that or not, but just wanted to clarify.
@@MegaManNeo Correct me if I am wrong, but the OS that this revolved around was windows 98, or 95, either way the install process for those operating systems is just clicking the next button and putting in some information. It really isn't much at all to ask the user to do a one time thing to get the PC working.
@@zethcader6478 Not to us perhaps but you know how casual users behave.
Why didn't they just unlock the door? ... lazy
9th floor. Roof access. There we go! Microsoft doesn’t have an office! They sit on top of the roof to watch the protesters lol
this is a joke please don’t hurt me
He won't hurt you. He might make a video about your comment. 😂
That stairway door was kind of a curve ball. I thought it was going to be badge access only like all the other ones
Still counts as locked either way, tho. But it is surprising for there to be no badge scanner. Maybe it got taken off at some point after Microsoft left.
I just want to say how glad I am that the algorithm put your Bliss video on my front page and that I decided to click on it. I've been hooked on your channel since. I love your videos and your sense of humor too!
That is awesome, thank you so much!!
Finally, I found someone who is obsessed with tech, PC and windows as much as I am.
I don't think I can ever.... ever pull my head out of the era when my Father bought a Pentium III PC with 16 megabytes of Vram with XP on it.
I miss the days when installing windows took an entire day.
Thinking about my memories with that PC and XP makes me cry.
Linux takes the whole day installing. If you go with a very advanced option like Arch Linux, then it will take weeks or months. And some people have mastered that.
@@chickeninabox You haven't installed linux at all huh?
I loved windows but everything has changed now. it's not the same windows i used to love. I moved to linux and not coming back again
@@chickeninabox yeah maybe if you’re a dunce…
@@pistachoduck9128 No. I am replying on Ubuntu.
mjd is the mvp for actually going there
As someone suffering from a terminal case of nostalgia, I have a fondness for Windows, Windows history, and things of that nature. As a BeOS fan, I also have a 20-year-old bone to pick about their strong-arming of OEMs, and general arrogance that the only OS license any OEM should be selling is a Windows license, and I mean _only_ a Windows license. Or else.
Honestly though, I wouldn't expect better behavior from commenters as a result. There's just a prevailing existence of humanity that will always knee-jerk react from their arm-chair pedestals. Don't let them get to you, you have a MUCH bigger supportive audience that loves your work. Keep it up :)
Man makes a 10-minute video just to say "Its locked from outsite"
Truly a legend
This took an unexpected Nick Robinson-like turn, next video will be visiting Microsoft JP Offices
Those lazy linux protestors couldn't even start a fire in the building and force the door on the staircase open from the inside
Security systems are always nice to be trolling random visitors, that's why they must exist!
I remember all this. It was like... sandwiched in with all the DOJ everything so like. a PR black eye on top of everything else. Hell even local news was covering it and i lived clear on the other side of the country.
This is the first time I heard of linux. I've used it off and on for the past twenty years (starting with vector, then moving to ubuntu based OS's.)
And that end segue? Beautiful.
I'm sure that after the release of this video no one will ever be mean on the internet ever again.
and yet here you are
but.. here you are. So you proved yourself wrong huh?
@@Lue_Duck template comment!
When you got to the point where it was said the elevators were programmed to deny the 9th floor, I knew that the staircase door would also be locked down to protect the company's security from what would viably considered intruders.
4:20 obviously because they also reprogrammed the stairs.
if i hadnt worked in a comcast office, i would have asked the same question about the stairs. as it is tho lol the second that question popped up i knew "oh yeah it's because it was locked"
i guess a lot of people dont work in secure offices?
It's actually surprising you could access it from the outside AT ALL. I work in a casino, and our exit stairwells have no re-entry whatsoever. Not even with keys, badges, w/e. They have pull handles instead of knobs, so couldn't even facilitate the releasing of the door latch should it be unlocked.
"Why didn't they just take the stairs?" Because that's 9 fucking fleights of stairs??
Well 9 isn't... supposed to be hard for a young person. Still, the door was *locked*
I hope this is sarcastic. Please confirm.
Holy lemonade flavored transmission fluid, you actually went there. That is poggers uwu
I would love to get this lemonade flavored transmission fluid for my car.
Ahhhh yes, people getting trolled by a storeroom lock. My job’s accounting office uses these doors and are always locked and can only be opened with a key.
The only question I ever asked myself after watching the first video was "Who the fuck even let the protestors reach the elevator in the first place" - I've worked corporate spaces like this and there is no fucking way you're getting through the front door no matter how righteous your cause is lol
Did Microsoft control the whole building, or only certain floors, meaning the rest of the building had to remain open to the public?
@@bxdanny It was still a Corporate Office. Security of some kind should have stopped them before they even got to the elevator.
@@aliangel5007 I guess there were like 2 underpaid security guys that decided it was not worth it to guard an elevator that protesters wouldn't be able to use anyway.
Inb4 next provocatory question:
"Why didn't they smash the door? Linux users are probably too fat to throw a kick".
Hurr durr me gigachad linux users soyjaks me based hurr durr
Your videos are more enjoyable in the weekends.
Having the dislike extension installed lets you see how many people were too lazy to look up why they didn't get in via the stairs. XD
8:01 says "ok I'm going to Cupertino what do you think I'm doing" does anyone know?
I'm curious about how you managed to just walk right in
did you talk to Security? WAS THERE Security at all? looks basically abandoned
A lot of buildings don't have a security desk. Often the elevators also require a card or fob to access predefined floors anyway (or after hours).
6:14 I just like that you used the TF2 font
Team Fortress 2 or Titanfall 2?
I love these travel documentaries where you visit the place. Keep it up!
Can't wait for mjd to say that he booked a flight to japan
7:30 Some doors even had a keycard reader
Me: Annoyed about the security training I had to do for a job containing obvious things like "While unlocking the office doors and going in, don't just let anyone directly follow you"
These guys: Doors can be locked???
This man actually traveled to the real office building just to shame a few stupid comments. What a chad
but the building sems deserted( no cars, no pepole , no security )
why is the building so empty
Hey MJD just wanted to say love your videos, very relaxing and enjoyable to watch, thanks for the interesting content.
I appreciate that, glad you like them!
There is a good reason not to build a PC, an OEM PC comes with a warranty and has all of the required hardware to make a functional PC in one purchase.
As do places like Micro Center, if everything in your PC came from there and it is still under warranty then you just hand them the bill and the PC and they will swap parts around from in the store till it works even if you build it as you bought the parts from them.
Hey Micheal!
Just wondering, is that office still being used or... is it just there for show?
Probably went there on the weekend.
Back in the day, I tried to get a refund for my pirated copy of Windows 95 but the scoundrels refused!
I remember being stuck in a stairwell (not in this building) when I was 6 because every door was locked (except the basement door, but I was too stupid to notice that back then). Welp, I was very happy when after about 5 minutes of waiting someone came in the stairwell because he wanted to use the bathroom (and its door was in the stairwell for inexplicable reasons) -_-
Dude I appreciate your dedication to the bit, but please tell me that you had other reasons to be out there. Those flights and rental car couldn't have been cheap.
Sorry to tell that but… He doesn’t owe you anything ! If he wants to do that just for fun, he’ll do it without having your f*cking permission
And if you were a little bit concentrated on the content you’re watching, you would have heard that he was over there for the Bliss wallpaper video
@@Nad70Radio Jesus christ dude, I know. I fly out to stupid places all the time as well. I was joking, and I must have missed the part about the bliss wallpaper. Fucking weird hill for you to get mad on though, lmao
Sorry about the other guy, definitely go see his video on the Bliss wallpaper though, it's an absolutely amazing video
@@Nad70Radio where in the comment does he ask for something. He’s literally asking why he went out of his way to make this video but your comment makes it sound like he asked to be sent a thousand dollars in exchange for having to watch a 10 minute video that says the exit is locked on the outside
Huh...
Judging by 90's Microsoft actions, they acted like they always did.
However, if OEMs were actually cool, these Linux users would have get their money back no problem because Microsoft very clearly wrote to contact them instead.
Wait... you're asking Internet trolls to actually do some research before saying utter nonsense for the sake of LULZ? nah.
"Annoyed by comments and out of answers, I did what I needed to. I booked a flight to the San Francisco Bay Area"
I’m still awaiting my refund for Windows Vista in 2007. I switched to MacOS ever since.
Me too. And besides the PCs I have to use at work, i never went back.
It actually would have been kinda hilarious if you flew all the way there, went through all that trouble, and walked up nine floors only to find the door unlocked.
I agree. And inside Bill Gates and Steve Balmer are sipping tea at a conference table. “Michael! We were expecting you!” 😳
you turn to run but the door is locked.
Take two! 🎥
My question is how could people actually think they were too lazy to walk down one flight of stairs if they were not lazy enough to actually go there and protest in the first place. Like if I went all the way to Microsoft’s office for a refund but one flight of stairs stood in my way do you think I wouldnt walk down them because I’m lazy? That’s honestly ridiculous
Oh my god the windows refund day video is from 2018? Holy crap i'm getting old💀
Is there anyone here in the comment section who was there in '99 and could tell a little about the event itself as POV, how was the atmosphere and such?
The door you showed is a security measure to prevent unauthorized people entering the offices while letting employees flee in case of fire, it's used in most shopping malls, it's a thick door of steel.
This video made me laugh a lot. Thank you for reading our comments even though some of us are more sassy than we should be. And thank you for flying halfway across the country to film a hill and some door! Really loved the original video about the protests as well. It was a great history lesson, and the follow-up only makes it better!
I love how you can tell he was yelling despite the audio not clipping.
Why they don't use the fire alarm to open the door or someone inside open it ? JK
it is annoying people don't get the point of Win Refund Day - it was gernerally cheaper to buy a whole computer package that came close to you hard ware reqiuerments then upgrade what you wanted that buy parts. still today buying a prebuilt system that has 85-90% of what you want is still cheaper than just parts. I talked to my freinds son last year who was going to build a PC and it worked out that a prebuilt from a reliable computer shop was 20% cheaper, had a WARANTY, and had 95% of what he was going to buy anyway. THIS IS WHY THEY WANTED A REFUND FOR WINDOWS....
ok I'm going to Cupertino what do you think I'm doing? - mjd 8:01
"wHy dIdN't thEY TakE thE sTAirs??!
Micheal: And I took that personally.
I'm just happy to see more from the trip! This was fun. It looked like Microsoft's own Nakatomi Plaza. Where was Hans GRUBer?
sudo unlcok door 9
I very much appreciate you taking the time to clear up misinformation, MJD. You're really good at it.
What did they *THINK* security was gonna do? 😂
"Alright boss, we blocked off elevator access."
"What about the stairwell?"
"uhhh idk, let them open the door."
Like even if it wasn't already a thing that the doors were always locked, they would have done so for sure on that day either way lol.
I aspire to be this level of petty, just to prove a point.
I don't understand how anyone could ever even assume that the door would be unlocked. Like, what are you...five? Even smart children would understand that you can't just walk into places like that. At most, you're allowed into a lobby.
It seems to be a multi use building, meaning different businesses are renting space there.
So...
Why didn't they bring a crowbar?
I'd imagine at least one of all these super smart Linux users would have thought of that..
because it's a protest, not a riot or robbery
You're mixing up Windows Refund day with BLM protests
@@windowsxseven yo momma
@@Khaliesahra yours is overweight
Top 10 GTA missions
in regards to the elevator... it shows these commenters never worked in a big corporate office setting. It's pretty common to have stairs secured by keycards or something like that, so you can't get into the office without proper authorization.
Free replay button: 6:12
Thank me later.
Awesome video, Michael!
Thank you!
Why don't they just destroy the walls
Let’s appreciate the fact that he flew across the country just to prove a point
But yeah why didnt they just use the stairs?
If this happened today CNN would call these protesters domestic terrorists.
😂 so true
I suppose someone could ask at this point why they didn't force the door, but that one is really obvious... it would take a lot of time and you'd probably go to jail for trespassing if you succeeded. If you're that crazy, you might as well lie in wait to pick the pockets of Microsoft employees or something, which would be about as morally questionable as breaking a locked door down. I'm actually not sure which one you'd get a longer sentence for.
lol why didn't they just pick the lock open
Other than the door being locked it is completely possible that the stairs (either inside of Microsoft's office, outside them or at the bottom floor) had at least an armed guard or some kind of security, like we are talking about Microsoft peope not some random small shop
B-b-B-bUt, WhAt AbOuT bReAkInG tHrOuGh ThE dOoR?!
We still don't know what laws changed after the protest
We need more of this "sassy Michael"...
Why do Linux users look like Linux users?
The lock picking lawyer would have opened the door about 3 seconds.. lol
"This is the Lock Picking Lawyer, and today we're going to get a refund"
I love everything about this.
I was expecting the door to literally not be there