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    5th Marian Dogma. Coredemptrix, Mediatrix of all grace, and advocate

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  • @trudiliffey1399
    @trudiliffey1399 25 дней назад +7

    So true if we only had listened to Our Lady of All Nations and other apparition like Akita where she is warning us of the loss of faith and our souls, why is mankind so stubborn? The whole point is by these truths and dogmas to be led to God and salvation!

  • @trudiliffey1399
    @trudiliffey1399 25 дней назад +3

    How blessed we are who never had a problem with all our Catholic teaching! Praise be to God

  • @Myohomoto
    @Myohomoto 25 дней назад +11

    💙Read John Duns Scotus ❤ He says it all. Co Redemtrix is the Golden Thread that runs through the Franciscan Order.

  • @Mrsjones028
    @Mrsjones028 25 дней назад +5

    Fun story - I was in the middle of the 33 day Marian consecration last year at this exact time (I’m recently back to the faith cradle catholic, very poorly catechised the usual story) I knew nothing about Our Lady of all Nations. At mass I opened the hymn book and this card falls out on my feet. Haven’t seen this prayer card before or since.

  • @lieveponny
    @lieveponny 25 дней назад +7

    I’m a native dutch speaker. The dutch word for lady is “dame”, but we never use that word for our blessed mother. It’s always: “vrouwe” which is an endearing version of “vrouw” (woman). The other issue that some people have with the Lady of all Nations is that she is portrayed in front of the cross. But that’s not because she’s taking the place of her son but because as she explains in the messages, she wants to place the cross in our midst again. She urges us to look up to the cross. If you read the messages you will see that some of them are critical of the clergy.

  • @martinmartin1363
    @martinmartin1363 25 дней назад +4

    Been reading father roshini about Maria valtorta and the poem of the man god and it’s opened my eyes to Mary as co redemptrix
    I shall return to reading the poem of the man god I was up to the wedding feast at Cana and decided to stop I’ll go back to it with a better understanding

    • @thecatholicman
      @thecatholicman  25 дней назад +1

      Yes he spends a lot of time talking about her role as co-redemptrix

    • @uncle_Samssubjects
      @uncle_Samssubjects 25 дней назад +2

      It's funny that you say that because I stopped listening to the poem around the same place, about six months ago. I thought I was just overwhelmed with the incredible amount of information, but now I highly doubt that was the issue for me.

    • @martinmartin1363
      @martinmartin1363 25 дней назад +2

      @@uncle_Samssubjects
      The devil is cunning and deceitful and stopped me but father roshinini definitely helped 👍

  • @Truefollower39
    @Truefollower39 25 дней назад +10

    I think co redemptrix whether it is meant or not gives the impression that Mary is equal to Christ when it comes to salvation. This is problematic. Because Christ is God and Mary is not. All attention needs to flow from Mary to Christ and not from Christ to Mary. Our main focus must always be on Christ himself.

    • @dankmatter3068
      @dankmatter3068 24 дня назад +1

      Yes but who do you think is telling His mother to promote this truth?

    • @dankmatter3068
      @dankmatter3068 24 дня назад +3

      Co means with, just because it implies something in English doesn't mean we should disregard it altogether. Without Mary there is no salvation, just as without Eve there is no sin. Everyone knows Jesus is God and Mary is not, it does not mean we slight her, because as St. Alphonsus Ligouri says "After the love which we owe Jesus Christ, we must give the chief place in our heart to the love of His Mother Mary." You imply that Jesus and Mary are separate entities. They are one, it would be easier to separate light from the sun than to separate The Son from The Mother. So to focus on Mary or Jesus matters not because their wills are united, as they are perfectly united, they will lead you to the same goal. Mary is simply His dress. To focus on Mary is to focus on Jesus, just as to focus on Jesus is to focus on Mary. If this was not the case then why do we venerate her? Why do we honour her? Why do we praise her? Because the best way to honor the Son is to honor the Mother. Mary gives all to her Son what we give to her. I think you should pray that Jesus and Mary will remove this scrupulous attitude, I think you suffer from this.
      247. c) These expressions show more clearly the intimate union existing between Jesus and Mary. So
      closely are they united that one is wholly the other. Jesus is all in Mary and Mary is all in Jesus. Or rather, it
      is no longer she who lives, but Jesus alone who lives in her. It would be easier to separate light from the sun
      than Mary from Jesus. So united are they that our Lord may be called, "Jesus of Mary", and his Mother
      "Mary of Jesus". - St. Louis De Montfort's True Devotion to Mary.
      "Let us not imagine that we obscure the glory of the Son by the praise we lavish on the Mother; for the more Mary is honored, the greater is the glory of her Son." - St. Bernard of Clairvaux, Mellifluous Doctor of the Church
      Who we give our attention to matters not, because it all goes to God anyways, and to go to God through Mary is most pleasing to Him, because she is perfect and overshadows our sins and imperfections.

  • @cynthiax56
    @cynthiax56 23 дня назад

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @genevievedavis7135
    @genevievedavis7135 22 дня назад

    0ur Lady of all nations who once was Mary _ translates from Dutch to English as - Our Lady of all nations 'the one Mary'. I always say the prayer as '...and may our Lady of all nations who 'is' Mary be our advocate.

  • @genevievedavis7135
    @genevievedavis7135 22 дня назад

    That our Lady is advocate is evident from the apparition at Knock, Ireland. Who is worthy to break the seal - only the Lamb of God, Jesus. Who does Jesus, the Lamb on the altar look to? He looks towards his Mother, Mary. He is waiting for her to give the command. Who does Mary look to? She looks upwards to the Father. Only the Father knows the day and the hour. Come, Holy Spirit come, come and renew the face of the earth. In this our Lady is Co-Redemptrix.

  • @Truefollower39
    @Truefollower39 25 дней назад +4

    Be careful with private revelations the devil can use them to cause much confusion and division. I've noticed some private revelations have been used to undermine the church itself and its authority. The problem with co redemptrix is that it may cause confusion and take our central focus from Christ himself as the savior of the world. It is not "we" the saviors but it is "he" the savior. Mary wants to draw our attention to Jesus Christ her son and not to herself. "Do whatever he tells you"

  • @Truefollower39
    @Truefollower39 25 дней назад +2

    Everything Mary does is to lead people to faith in her son Jesus. She wants to lead people to his glory and not take credit for it herself.

  • @kathysmith3834
    @kathysmith3834 25 дней назад +6

    The sad thing is, Robert, Pope Francis has said Mary is not co-redemptrix.

    • @thecatholicman
      @thecatholicman  25 дней назад +2

      I know.

    • @deliagibbons8776
      @deliagibbons8776 25 дней назад

      Pope Francis has said a a great many things that are utterly wrong, to be polite about it.

    • @martinmartin1363
      @martinmartin1363 25 дней назад +4

      @@kathysmith3834
      Yeah he said she’s just a woman
      But it’s basic Catholic faith to know if the church is the body of Christ and he is the head then his mother Mary is the neck as all graces come through her because Jesus the son of God came through her

    • @jcisar
      @jcisar 25 дней назад

      Lumen gentium, nn 62
      This maternity of Mary in the order of grace began with the consent which she gave in faith at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, and lasts until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this salvific duty, but by her constant intercession continued to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation.(15*) By her maternal charity, she cares for the brethren of her Son, who still journey on earth surrounded by dangers and cultics, until they are led into the happiness of their true home. Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked by the Church under the titles of Advocate, Auxiliatrix, Adjutrix, and Mediatrix.(16*) This, however, is to be so understood that it neither takes away from nor adds anything to the dignity and efficaciousness of Christ the one Mediator.(17*)
      For no creature could ever be counted as equal with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer. Just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by the ministers and by the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is really communicated in different ways to His creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source.

    • @joseph_mta5840
      @joseph_mta5840 24 дня назад +1

      its a theological opinion. its not dogma as of yet. he, as the pope, is entitled to his opinions. I think he misunderstands the idea.

  • @Undermarysmantleforever
    @Undermarysmantleforever 25 дней назад +1

    🙏🙏🙏🌟

  • @JuanaPray333
    @JuanaPray333 25 дней назад

    Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate. ❤️❤️❤️ If this will be approved, she said there will be peace in the world.' She will make it so.

  • @MichaelShafer-td8ew
    @MichaelShafer-td8ew 25 дней назад +2

    Be careful what you ask for. With a bad Pope you may wind up with a “Our Lady of Pachamama”! Additionally, Luke 9:33-36 also applies to the Holy, Ever-Virgin Mother!

  • @kathymonroe7476
    @kathymonroe7476 23 дня назад

    Can you please put in your notes somewhere the whole list of dates?

  • @joeslowmama2048
    @joeslowmama2048 25 дней назад

    🙏

  • @martinmartin1363
    @martinmartin1363 25 дней назад +1

    Fundamental option theory
    According to fundamental option theory, each person makes a deep and basic choice for or against God. Individual acts we perform may or may not be in accordance with that fundamental choice. For example, when a person who has made a basic choice in favor of God sins, this choice to sin is not in accord with his fundamental orientation in favor of God.
    The key claims of fundamental option theory are that individual acts do not change our basic orientation and that only when our fundamental option changes against God do we fall out of a state of grace. A person can commit particular sins without losing a state of grace.
    Historic Catholic theology would say that those sins which do not change our fundamental option are venial sins and that those sins which do change it are mortal sins. Whenever a person commits a mortal sin, he has changed his fundamental option and chooses to be against God; he loses the state of grace.
    But this is not the way fundamental option theorists present their system. They typically claim that one can commit acts such as adultery, homosexuality, and masturbation, which the Church has always regarded as mortal sins, without changing one’s fundamental option. Some go so far as to imply that no single act of sin one commits changes one’s fundamental option; only a prolonged pattern of sinful behavior can do so.

  • @Truefollower39
    @Truefollower39 25 дней назад +2

    I agree Mary has an intrinsic and crucial role in salvation but the term co redemptrix implies absolute equality with Christ as the Savior of the world which would be wrong because Christ is Lord and Mary is not. Pope Francis is smarter than a lot of people give him credit for.

    • @dankmatter3068
      @dankmatter3068 25 дней назад +2

      Co comes from Latin it means "with". It's just the english language being the english language. Without Mary's "yes" Christ could not have saved us because He chose to come to us only through her, and His will does not change because He does not change. Christ is Lord but Mary is Lady, do not slight her. As for Pope Francis, he needs prayers.

    • @Truefollower39
      @Truefollower39 25 дней назад

      @@dankmatter3068 I agree with you that she is necessary and plays a crucial role in redemption but the problem is that the term co redemptrix gives the impression that she is equal to Christ in her role is a bit suspect. She said yes but she did not suffer the same temptations, persecutions and agony of the cross as Jesus did. Mary is the gateway for salvation but he alone is salvation. Should the conception of Christ and the cross of Christ be seen as equal or should the cross have priority in its role of redemption? I think the latter should be the case.

    • @dankmatter3068
      @dankmatter3068 24 дня назад

      @@Truefollower39 Again it's all semantics. Co means with. Jesus always elevates His mother to the highest degree, so we should too if we wish to imitate Him.
      Yes Jesus alone is salvation, but without Mary's FIAT He would have not saved us because He chose to come to us only through her and thus save us through her, meaning with her consent. And just as He came to us through her, so He wills we come to Him through her, this is why she is called "The Gate of Heaven". St. Bonaventure says one must enter Heaven through Mary as though through a door.
      Mary suffered terribly on Calvary, seeing her beloved Son tortured and killed. St. Bernardine says that if the sorrow of Mary was split among all humanity we would all die instantly of grief. Without the Conception of Christ there is no cross of Christ, but I don't think the 2 should be equal, I agree with you on this of course.

    • @dankmatter3068
      @dankmatter3068 24 дня назад

      @@Truefollower39 An impression means little, "Fear of the Lord" implies that we should be afraid of God and thus run from Him, but it actually means that we should fear OFFENDING HIM BECAUSE WE LOVE HIM and not because of His just punishment, as an example of a false impression we already have in Catholic teaching. Nobody is thinking that Mary is equal to Jesus.
      Mary suffered more all of creation combined, if you were to divide all the sorrow she felt on calvary between every living human being, we would all die instantly of grief, says St. Bernardine. Without the conception of Christ there is no cross of Christ so it is equally redemptive, but it does not mean that Mother Mary is equal to Him, we all know this. But at the same time she is second only to God, and thus deserves all the honour, praise and love we can possibly give her.
      I think dear friend that you suffer from scruples towards our good Mother, pray to her Son or to her and ask them to remove your scruples, because I my friend have suffered this and I wouldn't wish it on even satan. Scruples of any nature are always from the darkest pit of hell, it's a ploy to strip you from Mary and thus strip you from Jesus, because without the Tree of Life (Mary) in you, the Fruit of Life (Jesus) cannot be born in you. Good day.

  • @JohnAlbertRigali
    @JohnAlbertRigali 25 дней назад +2

    6:37 Eve is the woman by which sin came into the world - not Mary.
    Robert, I wish that you and I were neighbors.

    • @thecatholicman
      @thecatholicman  25 дней назад +1

      Correct. Apologies on reading the translated text

  • @Nonofurbzness
    @Nonofurbzness 25 дней назад +3

    Yes why aren’t there any statues that we can purchase so we can venerate??

    • @thecatholicman
      @thecatholicman  25 дней назад +2

      I don’t know, I just realised recently how important this is.

    • @Nonofurbzness
      @Nonofurbzness 25 дней назад +2

      I’ll have to print a picture 😞

  • @charliegeorge.
    @charliegeorge. 25 дней назад

    "The Blessed Virgin Mary" prayer description as opposed to " Who once was Mary" doesn't give me cause for concern, i mean we know who the woman at the foot of the cross is and we know who the woman clothed with the sun is, our lady of Guadalupe says to Juan Diego- Am i not you're mother? Also we commonly state Our Lady of Lourdes, we don't say the Immaculate Conception of Lourdes, Its Mary! Lets not play the enemies game of sowing doubt and confusion over phrasing of words.
    Rest in peace Sister Agnes.

  • @martinmartin1363
    @martinmartin1363 25 дней назад +2

    Pope Paul 6 died 1978 pope John Paul succeeded and died and pope John Paul 2 1979
    And visited Ireland in October

  • @karlheven8328
    @karlheven8328 25 дней назад +5

    Nah, I do not think another marian dogma would be useful.
    There needs to be far more study and christian unity in understanding

    • @thecatholicman
      @thecatholicman  25 дней назад +3

      So we sacrifice truth for comprise with Christians?

    • @karlheven8328
      @karlheven8328 25 дней назад +4

      @@thecatholicman I disagree on the merits not on ecumenism. On this i actually agree with Pope Francis who also said that it would be foolishness to dogmatically define Mary as coredemptrix. Even Sedevacantists agree. I think it departs too far from Scripture and it would be theologically very problematic.

    • @lieveponny
      @lieveponny 25 дней назад +4

      @@karlheven8328I’d rather agree with the many saints and great popes who honored Mary as co-redemptrix. Years and years of ecumenism has brought no unity whatsoever. On the contrary: protestantism keeps on dividing and dividing to the point where christianity has almost become an individual thing.

    • @karlheven8328
      @karlheven8328 25 дней назад +2

      @@lieveponny I repeat. My opposition has nothing to do with ecumenism.
      I disagree because it is theologically precarious and even in catholic circles very disputed. We need to discuss more about this. It would in any case be too early to define anything before the relevant difficult questions between the universality of Jesus Christ and Marys role are settled. For example if Mary were to be called co-redemptrix - did she then become like God? Or just that her will was equal to that of God. It would seem to divinize Mary and put her in a position where the Mother is more important than the holy spirit.

    • @dankmatter3068
      @dankmatter3068 25 дней назад

      @@karlheven8328 Sacred Scripture is from Sacred Tradition.

  • @marycox2530
    @marycox2530 25 дней назад

    Robert I love your content but this has been declared not supernatural by the Vatican and people have been told not to encourage devotion to it. Now, I haven't watched the video yet so I don't know whether you're speaking positively or negatively but it does concern me that so many RUclipsrs are making videos on non-approved or even condemned apparitions and a lot of them create unnecessary distraction or fear. You have a loving heart! But I do think that all these are distracting a lot of us from just living each day as a good Catholic. I just think as Catholics we should be going to mass, confession weekly if possible, dive into mental prayer, read good books from approved mystics of the church, read the bible, pray the full rosary, pray for priests, the purification of the church, perserverance in these difficult times, the conversion of the world and for peace. God will handle the rest. It would be better in my opinion (since we dont actually have to believe in private reveltion) to do what Jesus has asked us to do and be always watching for the time He calls us home. Better that than to spend so much time of something that may be a deception. God bless you!

  • @atmanbrahman1872
    @atmanbrahman1872 25 дней назад +2

    No more dogmas.

  • @dominykask0742
    @dominykask0742 25 дней назад +1

    "Vrouw" means a woman. Lady is "dame".

    • @thecatholicman
      @thecatholicman  25 дней назад +1

      “De Vrouwe” is translated into English The Lady

    • @dominykask0742
      @dominykask0742 25 дней назад

      @@thecatholicman So in the Dutch Bible it says "De Vrouwe" or "Vrouw"? Because I'm seeing "Vrouw". Which Bible are you using?

    • @thecatholicman
      @thecatholicman  25 дней назад

      @@dominykask0742 the one I could find online

    • @dominykask0742
      @dominykask0742 25 дней назад

      @@thecatholicman Well all of them use "Vrouw" or just says "This is your son". Haven't found one with "De Vrouwe".

    • @thecatholicman
      @thecatholicman  25 дней назад +1

      @@dominykask0742 you are correct. The title in English is different. Vrouw is woman (no lady)

  • @crazyedswonderfulworldofso9370
    @crazyedswonderfulworldofso9370 25 дней назад

    While the title "Co-Redemptrix" expresses a truth about Mary's cooperation in Christ's redemptive work, defining it as a dogma would risk misunderstanding, theological confusion, and could have negative ecumenical implications. The Church, in her wisdom, has chosen to uphold Mary’s role in salvation through established teachings that emphasize Christ's unique role as the Redeemer. Therefore, a Fifth Marian Dogma as "Co-Redemptrix" is highly unlikely to be proclaimed.
    Should we also proclaim Mary’s parents, Joachim and Anne as Co-Redeemers? After all, they cooperated with God’s work as Mary did to facilitate Jesus’ birth. And what of their parents, and their parents before them? Are they all Co-Redeemers? No. If Mary cooperated with the facilitation of Jesus’ work, then call her Mary - The Cooperator, not Mary - the Co-Redemptrix. She did not die on a cross to redeem the world.

    • @thecatholicman
      @thecatholicman  25 дней назад

      Mary’s parents were not immaculately conceived.

    • @crazyedswonderfulworldofso9370
      @crazyedswonderfulworldofso9370 25 дней назад

      @@thecatholicman You make a fair point that Mary's parents Joachim and Anne were not immaculately conceived like Mary was. This is an important distinction.
      However, Mary's Immaculate Conception was a special grace given to her by God, in preparation for her role as the Mother of the Redeemer, not as Redeemer. By preserving her free from sin, she was made a fitting vessel to bear the Son of God in her womb, not save the world on a Cross as her Son did.

  • @MichaelShafer-td8ew
    @MichaelShafer-td8ew 25 дней назад

    A little less Romans 1:25, a lot more 1 Corinthians 2:2!

    • @dankmatter3068
      @dankmatter3068 25 дней назад

      Idolatry is bad because it takes you away from God. Mary leads you into the most intimate and loving union with God, therefore not idolatry but quite the opposite. Stop the attacks on God's Mother and your Mother. Without her "yes" Jesus would not have saved us. This poor Mother has to deal with so much ingratitude and blasphemies.
      "For we never give more honour to Jesus than when we honour his Mother, and we honour her
      simply and solely to honour Him all the more perfectly. We go to her only as a way leading to the goal we
      seek - Jesus, her Son." - St. Louis De Montfort
      "Let us not imagine that we obscure the glory of the Son by the praise we lavish on the Mother; for the more Mary is honored, the greater is the glory of her Son." - St. Bernard of Clairvaux, Mellifluous Doctor of the Church
      You can see that Mary is totally relative to Jesus. When you say "Mary" she says "God". Love your dear Mother.
      "My soul doth magnify the Lord."

    • @MichaelShafer-td8ew
      @MichaelShafer-td8ew 25 дней назад

      @@dankmatter3068 Thank you so much for you sharing allow me to share - Matthew 12:48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.” so says JESUS CHRIST THE LORD OF GLORY AND GOD INCARNATE!

    • @dankmatter3068
      @dankmatter3068 25 дней назад

      @@MichaelShafer-td8ew What's your point exactly?

    • @MichaelShafer-td8ew
      @MichaelShafer-td8ew 25 дней назад

      @@dankmatter3068 Not my point, Jesus'. I am only a humble messenger pointing out where the nourishment of God's Word is ( Matthew 4:4).

    • @dankmatter3068
      @dankmatter3068 25 дней назад

      @@MichaelShafer-td8ew Yes and I love God's word because the word is Jesus. But I don't understand, are you presenting a counter argument? Because that is not a counter argument.