One thing I found across hollow knight bosses is pretty small movesets. The majority of them don't really have more than 5-6 moves. But I also love how distinct each attack is - you always know which specific attack they're about to use. Unlike some games, like bloodborne, where if a boss is telegraphing something with their arm, it could mean 10 different things.
Somebody once said that Laurence from the old hunters DLC has around 40 different attacks. However, they are so similar that you don’t really remember more than 5 of his moves. I love bosses with a large move set, because it helps keeping the boss fresh, but bosses like Laurence really needed more memorable attacks. Now, he’s is just seen as a asset flip from Cleric Beast, and rightfully so.
I feel like having 5 to 6 moves is enough for a boss fight, especially in the 2d platform, take Pure vessel for example. he has 3 moves at the start, Charge, 3 hit combo and projectiles, But he's soo fast that you have to anticipate each attack and dodge accordingly, and further into the boss fight, he adds two new attacks that you have to pay attention to within the mix. I like this style of boss fight. It's also the same concept in my favorite Elden Ring boss fight, Godfrey/Horah Loux.
The False Knight, if you hang out in the arena after they're defeated the hammer ball pops off the stick and turns into a bug that crawls away. One of the funniest little moments in the game.
I just wanted to say that im incredibly thankfull of finding your channel, i wasn't in the best place but i started watching you after it started to get alot better. Your one of my favorite comfort youtubers for that. Keep up the great content man:)❤
I adore your timing, my friend. About to start a 10 hour night shift and this pops into my feed, your videos are always a great start to my work so thank you!! Also Happy Birthday!
Just discovered your channel and really loving it. About Markoth, tho - he's significantly easier and less frustrating when you actively use nail arts - they allow you to safely hit him without needing to come close to him and without requiring any soul. Same goes for most flying enemies really - nail arts trivialize them. Also, about the collector: 1) The grub father doesn't consume his children - he becomes a cocoon for them to move to their new stage of life. And the most likely reason to why Collector kidnapped and spread them across the entire kingdom is because the grubs are the first stage in the forming of a new god moth (There's a secret room in the ceiling of the tower of love with a scheme of a grub pointing at their significance) - and obviously, Pale King and his aristocrats wouldn't want another potential Radiance around. Another detail pointing at it is the fact that grubs appear to be near unkillable - almost all the other creatures in Collector's jar all died of infection and/or starvation but grubs? They're absolutely fine, even after being locked away in completely desolated places for a very long period of time. 2) The collector's personality is actually their own - just driven to madness due to loneliness and Pale King's spell influence. Void is basically "soul oil" - ancient souls of the dead across the world slowly accumulating in the abyss and then slowly becoming a new life as lifeblood grows from it (if told extremely sortly). The point it - void creatures have personality but need extra focus to show it. The whole "no mind, no voice, no will" thing is just PK's spell forced on them by his contraptions but not their natural state. After all, not only does the collector have a personality - they also have a very clear voice which already breaks the whole myth (and there's a literal spell called "abyss shriek" which is a collection of vengeful voices of oppressed void creatures speaking up). Also, literally the entire tragedy of Pure Vessel was that they had feelings and a personality despite PK originally trying to get a creature without those qualities.
I played Hollow Knight back in 2018, but never made it too far. I definitely made it through the first couple of areas but dropped it around the halfway point I believe. This series might just convince me to pick it back up. Happy birthday Billy!!!
I dont know how actually effective this is, but I've found that constantly pogoing off of the watcher knights and the god tamers beast when theres damage opportunities can make their fights trivial
Hollow Knight is my favorite game of all time and I have replayed it so many times... and yet I keep forgetting about the Flukermarm lol Because everytime the "fight" with her only consist of getting beneath her, doing two abyss shriek and that's it, would hardly even call her a boss fight tbh
@@BillySYT I'd agree, but seeing someone else get Radiant Markoth with that move pushed me to learn it and I was able to manage that feat myself, two thirds to three quarters of the way through radianting bosses (I still haven't finished lol)
Watcher Knights are super underrated, very few things in the game gives you more adrenaline than two Watcher Knights rolling at you. Fromsoft wishes they could make gank bosses this good.
I really like the Watcher Knights. It took me a long time to enjoy them but after playing the game for so long, I think it's a pretty fair challenge for how late they show up.
Honestly, despite them placing this low, I still consider them a great and well telegraphed fight. Hollow Knight just doesn't miss when it comes to it's boss fights.
First of all, nice to see the Hollow Knight ranking here, it shows that you have put a lot of work into this one! While I agree with most of the takes (especially with Marmu and Obblobes, fuck them), I also have to disagree with some. For me, putting Markoth on the last place is a crime. He is by far the most thrilling fights from all of the dreamers. I get that he may be frustrating at times, especially on radiant, but he encourage you to use all of your tools, he is much easier with proper use of nail arts and spells. I don't say he is top 5 boss, but he should be at least top 20 for me. As for Watcher Knights, it is such a joy to fight them with low equipment when you get used to it. Easily top 10 at least, maybe the contestant for the best fight in the base game. I am also surprised to not see Uumuu in the lower part of the list, maybe this is part of an amateur speedrunner bias, but I hate him from the bottom of my hearth. Great for story purpose with Quirrel, but besides that it is just a terrible fight that is just a waiting game that is also RNG depended. But these are just my thoughts. Great vid and it was nice to see HK on your channel, can't wait for part 2 & 3.
Hi I tried hollow knight could not get into it but still gonna watch this video also do you know when the demon souls boss difficulty will be out and my 2 question have you played cuphead but anyway I bet it will be a great video that I can actually relate to considering I have only beat dark souls one and demon souls and I am currently beating dark souls 2 also I love you content happy birthday
1 - The Demon's Souls boss difficulty will be out later this month. The poll is continuing until the 8th, so expect it some time after. 2 - I've played Cuphead before, yes. I want to revisit it at some point, possibly next year? 3 - Thanks for the birthday wishes ^^
Seeing the False Knight in number 40 say something about Hollow Knight bosses quality. This game is so great. My only disappointment is that Zote the Almighty will not be number 1... Hardest boss of the game for me, such an epic fight And happy birthday ! 🙏
During 2021 I became completely addicted to hollow knight, I beat every boss, explored every area and obtained every upgrade. But the pantheon of hallow est was far to difficult for me, and so I could not complete the game to 112%😢
Marmu just feels bugged, sometimes even when you nail him he just goes straight through you, which is such a pain on p5 when you try to save up lives. Markoth is the worst on Radiant, but otherwise he is fine - I did also play this game way too much, and would probably feel different if it was after less hours played.
Markoth radiant was mu absolute worst time in Hollow knight Took me like 6 hours to do it even though he has only 2 moves Also damn, did the watcher knights extremely dirty
I do feel bad for the Watcher Knights, in the sense that I recognize they're an extremely well designed boss. But I genuinely would rather fight the bosses above them if I had a gun to my head and was told to pick lol
Is it true that you couldn’t beat P5 or even reach AbsRad? I have a feeling you might have said that in a poll, but i’m not too sure. I don’t blame you though, because it’s tough as nails, but I’d encourage you to at least reach AbsRad if you can. I only managed to beat P5 because of tons of practice, but it’s definitely doable because almost all Bosses in HK are fairly designed. I also like how there are 2 new boss on your way to AbsRad in P5 in order to make the boss rush more spicy.
@@BillySYT That’s okay. I hope you beat AbsRad in the hall of gods though. At least you’ll then have the feeling of having beaten every boss in the game. Thank god the hit boxes in this game are nowhere as bad as in DS2. That would make P5 way more unbearable. Also is AbsRad in your top 15? Probably, but that’ll be a surprise for later, I suppose.
I think the ones you dislike should be higher up because they're at least more interesting. I hate radiant markoth (took me 5 hours, radiant abs rad took me 8) of course, and marmu is a little annoying, but massive moss charger is just kind of boring. But it's your list and I generally agree (I think watcher knights should be higher up though)
Great video, but I just wanted to ask… Why do people make their entire identity, online or even real life persona revolve around their sexuality? (Looking at your pfp) And I’m talking about masculine and straight, to gay and feminine guys. Just be a person man. A unique person. Don’t be a category. Don’t water down yourself. Imo I feel like many people are just too focused on some things. I didn’t want to sound rude or disrespectful but personally I just never understood why people do that. Great video!
No, seriously. I HATE Markoth. I have posted my third successful attempt at the Pantheon of Hallownest on my channel recently and I have made it clear that the fight vs Markoth was one of my all time worst and I was surprised to see I could survive Zote who comes right after.
It's the one boss where I think even though he "technically" is better than some of the higher placements, it's just the vibe when fighting him. He's not something I enjoy or look forward to in the slightest.
I enjoy your videos but i disliked the joke about more children than a council flat bc it felt like a kind of knee jerk conservative stereotype about "welfare moms" (as they are called in the US. ) I'm not saying it was intended that way but that was how it came off to me.
No, I'm literally joking about the culture I was brought up and raised in about the UK. If I didn't mention America, I'm not referring to America or their systems.
@@BillySYT right I get that but I’ve lived in the uk as well and know that like being anti- poor isn’t just an American thing and a lot of stereotypes about poor people breeding out of control come from the eugenics movement. It’s a joke but a lot of times jokes reflect societal prejudices
@@forcedintofemininity I get where you're coming from but I think you're seeing an issue where none exists. Sometimes jokes do poke fun at stereotypes and are meant solely as jokes and not actual societal commentary. You have to separate serious conversation from humour because the two rarely intersect.. For example, saying something like "as drunk as an irishman dropped off at the nearest bar with an unlimited pot of gold" would be a joke poking fun at a sterotype of a nation and its people but its not actually saying that the stereotype is true or anything about the sterotype at all. Jokes do sometimes reflect prejudices and a lot of people hide discriminatory remarks behind "jokes" but the difference is that one is made purely for humour and the other is just humour as a disguise and the two are pretty easy to tell apart
@@ASmartNameForMe I think this example is interesting bc it seems to think that we can only have stereotypes about racial or national origins. There are certainly lots of stereotypes about poor people breeding indiscriminately and to me that is just as offensive
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Happy birthday to me! And happy Hollow Knight to you all! This is Part 1, tune in every Friday for Part's 2 & 3 ^^
Happy Birthday Billy
Happy birthday
wait, its your birthday too???
Happy birthday
Happy Billy Birthday.
One thing I found across hollow knight bosses is pretty small movesets. The majority of them don't really have more than 5-6 moves. But I also love how distinct each attack is - you always know which specific attack they're about to use. Unlike some games, like bloodborne, where if a boss is telegraphing something with their arm, it could mean 10 different things.
Somebody once said that Laurence from the old hunters DLC has around 40 different attacks. However, they are so similar that you don’t really remember more than 5 of his moves. I love bosses with a large move set, because it helps keeping the boss fresh, but bosses like Laurence really needed more memorable attacks. Now, he’s is just seen as a asset flip from Cleric Beast, and rightfully so.
I feel like having 5 to 6 moves is enough for a boss fight, especially in the 2d platform, take Pure vessel for example. he has 3 moves at the start, Charge, 3 hit combo and projectiles, But he's soo fast that you have to anticipate each attack and dodge accordingly, and further into the boss fight, he adds two new attacks that you have to pay attention to within the mix. I like this style of boss fight. It's also the same concept in my favorite Elden Ring boss fight, Godfrey/Horah Loux.
The False Knight, if you hang out in the arena after they're defeated the hammer ball pops off the stick and turns into a bug that crawls away. One of the funniest little moments in the game.
I knew I remembered that happening, I just couldn't remember the trigger for it, ye
It was also a huge meme in the fandom for a bit lol
I just wanted to say that im incredibly thankfull of finding your channel, i wasn't in the best place but i started watching you after it started to get alot better. Your one of my favorite comfort youtubers for that. Keep up the great content man:)❤
I hate markoth, I hate markoth, I hate markoth, that you for vindicating my feelings.
I adore your timing, my friend. About to start a 10 hour night shift and this pops into my feed, your videos are always a great start to my work so thank you!!
Also Happy Birthday!
Good luck with the night shift, and thanks ^^
im so happy to see you doing hollow knight content!
Happy birthday man, love your videos, perfect after a tiring day of classes
Just discovered your channel and really loving it. About Markoth, tho - he's significantly easier and less frustrating when you actively use nail arts - they allow you to safely hit him without needing to come close to him and without requiring any soul. Same goes for most flying enemies really - nail arts trivialize them.
Also, about the collector: 1) The grub father doesn't consume his children - he becomes a cocoon for them to move to their new stage of life. And the most likely reason to why Collector kidnapped and spread them across the entire kingdom is because the grubs are the first stage in the forming of a new god moth (There's a secret room in the ceiling of the tower of love with a scheme of a grub pointing at their significance) - and obviously, Pale King and his aristocrats wouldn't want another potential Radiance around. Another detail pointing at it is the fact that grubs appear to be near unkillable - almost all the other creatures in Collector's jar all died of infection and/or starvation but grubs? They're absolutely fine, even after being locked away in completely desolated places for a very long period of time.
2) The collector's personality is actually their own - just driven to madness due to loneliness and Pale King's spell influence. Void is basically "soul oil" - ancient souls of the dead across the world slowly accumulating in the abyss and then slowly becoming a new life as lifeblood grows from it (if told extremely sortly). The point it - void creatures have personality but need extra focus to show it. The whole "no mind, no voice, no will" thing is just PK's spell forced on them by his contraptions but not their natural state. After all, not only does the collector have a personality - they also have a very clear voice which already breaks the whole myth (and there's a literal spell called "abyss shriek" which is a collection of vengeful voices of oppressed void creatures speaking up).
Also, literally the entire tragedy of Pure Vessel was that they had feelings and a personality despite PK originally trying to get a creature without those qualities.
Happy birthday, billy boy! Stumbled upon you a couple months ago from your lies of p content and have been a fan since. Keep up the great work!
Can’t wait for the rest, my personal favourite is pure vessel
Happy birthday, Billy!
I comment this as a final message, since I know the hollow knight mafia will end me after I say this but...
Markoth is easy
I played Hollow Knight back in 2018, but never made it too far. I definitely made it through the first couple of areas but dropped it around the halfway point I believe. This series might just convince me to pick it back up.
Happy birthday Billy!!!
Happy birthday and thanks for making a video about my fav game!!!!
No problem, its a great game
There's no way No Eyes and Uumuu aren't in the bottom 16 but Watcher Knights are that's insane.
True
I can imagine I'm going to disagree with a lot of these, but that's why I'm so excited to watch!
Happy birthday, Billy. 💛
I'm down for people to disagree, as long as it's in a kind way xD
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BILLY ❤🎉
Happy birthday! Love the vid!
Happy Birthday Billy 🥳
I'm surprised but definately happy about number 35.
Love that guy.
I dont know how actually effective this is, but I've found that constantly pogoing off of the watcher knights and the god tamers beast when theres damage opportunities can make their fights trivial
Radiant Markoth was the hardest boss on radiant aside from Absolute Radiance, I still have nightmares about it
I refuse to attempt it. I like my games likeable lol
It really puts the "masochistic" in masochistic completionist 🙂
It would be fun to see you do a run! I love this game.
Maybe I'll do an item randomizer run at some point ^^
That collector theory is really cool!
But there's no way you just ranked Watcher Knights that low lol. This fight is so cool.
Markoth is the most deserving last place ever. Fighting him with no floor is truly insufferable
commenting so the algorithm doesn't bully this man again
Hollow Knight is my favorite game of all time and I have replayed it so many times... and yet I keep forgetting about the Flukermarm lol
Because everytime the "fight" with her only consist of getting beneath her, doing two abyss shriek and that's it, would hardly even call her a boss fight tbh
How dare you call Fluke Mommy disgusting!? She is the most beautiful creature in Hallownest!
She's digusting (loving)
Dash Slash helps a lot with Markoth. Its hitbox is really long and can sneak past his inner dreamshield
I find the dash slash so awkward to use. Great Slash is the only nail art I remotely find comfy
@@BillySYT I'd agree, but seeing someone else get Radiant Markoth with that move pushed me to learn it and I was able to manage that feat myself, two thirds to three quarters of the way through radianting bosses (I still haven't finished lol)
Watcher Knights are super underrated, very few things in the game gives you more adrenaline than two Watcher Knights rolling at you. Fromsoft wishes they could make gank bosses this good.
I really like the Watcher Knights. It took me a long time to enjoy them but after playing the game for so long, I think it's a pretty fair challenge for how late they show up.
Honestly, despite them placing this low, I still consider them a great and well telegraphed fight. Hollow Knight just doesn't miss when it comes to it's boss fights.
I mean they have done much better imo
My man did NOT just rank flukemarm above false knight ahahaha
Great video
Markoth in the pantheon traumatised me too much to not have him as my least favourite boss
THERE IT IS!!!! HOLLOW KNIGHT
happy birthday btw
Happy birthday, studmuffin!!🎉🎉
First of all, nice to see the Hollow Knight ranking here, it shows that you have put a lot of work into this one!
While I agree with most of the takes (especially with Marmu and Obblobes, fuck them), I also have to disagree with some. For me, putting Markoth on the last place is a crime. He is by far the most thrilling fights from all of the dreamers. I get that he may be frustrating at times, especially on radiant, but he encourage you to use all of your tools, he is much easier with proper use of nail arts and spells. I don't say he is top 5 boss, but he should be at least top 20 for me. As for Watcher Knights, it is such a joy to fight them with low equipment when you get used to it. Easily top 10 at least, maybe the contestant for the best fight in the base game.
I am also surprised to not see Uumuu in the lower part of the list, maybe this is part of an amateur speedrunner bias, but I hate him from the bottom of my hearth. Great for story purpose with Quirrel, but besides that it is just a terrible fight that is just a waiting game that is also RNG depended.
But these are just my thoughts. Great vid and it was nice to see HK on your channel, can't wait for part 2 & 3.
Hi I tried hollow knight could not get into it but still gonna watch this video also do you know when the demon souls boss difficulty will be out and my 2 question have you played cuphead but anyway I bet it will be a great video that I can actually relate to considering I have only beat dark souls one and demon souls and I am currently beating dark souls 2 also I love you content happy birthday
1 - The Demon's Souls boss difficulty will be out later this month. The poll is continuing until the 8th, so expect it some time after.
2 - I've played Cuphead before, yes. I want to revisit it at some point, possibly next year?
3 - Thanks for the birthday wishes ^^
Seeing the False Knight in number 40 say something about Hollow Knight bosses quality. This game is so great.
My only disappointment is that Zote the Almighty will not be number 1... Hardest boss of the game for me, such an epic fight
And happy birthday ! 🙏
5 bosses away from p5 all bindings trying to do that before silksong
During 2021 I became completely addicted to hollow knight, I beat every boss, explored every area and obtained every upgrade. But the pantheon of hallow est was far to difficult for me, and so I could not complete the game to 112%😢
You know 112% doesn't require Pantheon of Hallownest ^^ you can get that 112%, I believe in you
Happy birthday
Thank you Monkey D Luffy
I’m surprised UwU isn’t on this list. Not my least favorite boss but definitely a huge gimmick, especially in Godhome
Marmu just feels bugged, sometimes even when you nail him he just goes straight through you, which is such a pain on p5 when you try to save up lives.
Markoth is the worst on Radiant, but otherwise he is fine - I did also play this game way too much, and would probably feel different if it was after less hours played.
Ngl when I was saw Zote I was scared until I wasnt
FINALLY HES TALKING ABOUT HK
Markoth radiant was mu absolute worst time in Hollow knight
Took me like 6 hours to do it even though he has only 2 moves
Also damn, did the watcher knights extremely dirty
I do feel bad for the Watcher Knights, in the sense that I recognize they're an extremely well designed boss. But I genuinely would rather fight the bosses above them if I had a gun to my head and was told to pick lol
Is it true that you couldn’t beat P5 or even reach AbsRad? I have a feeling you might have said that in a poll, but i’m not too sure.
I don’t blame you though, because it’s tough as nails, but I’d encourage you to at least reach AbsRad if you can. I only managed to beat P5 because of tons of practice, but it’s definitely doable because almost all Bosses in HK are fairly designed.
I also like how there are 2 new boss on your way to AbsRad in P5 in order to make the boss rush more spicy.
I unlocked AbsRad after that poll, but I've yet to beat P5. Honestly, I likely won't due to how much time you have to dedicate to it
@@BillySYT That’s okay. I hope you beat AbsRad in the hall of gods though. At least you’ll then have the feeling of having beaten every boss in the game. Thank god the hit boxes in this game are nowhere as bad as in DS2. That would make P5 way more unbearable.
Also is AbsRad in your top 15? Probably, but that’ll be a surprise for later, I suppose.
YAS the blacksmith and sheo said gay rights also happy bday boo and thanks for keeping me sane with all those soulsborne and zelda videos
I think the ones you dislike should be higher up because they're at least more interesting. I hate radiant markoth (took me 5 hours, radiant abs rad took me 8) of course, and marmu is a little annoying, but massive moss charger is just kind of boring. But it's your list and I generally agree (I think watcher knights should be higher up though)
Where is elder hu?????
There's no way you put false knight below winged nosk, flukemarm and all the dream bosses that aren't markoth and maru
Chaos is a ladder, my friend.
I forgot how much I loved (and hated) Hollow Knight until I watched this video
Honestly same. One of my favourite games of all time until something bad happens and I'm like "friendship ended"
Did you forget about no-eyes? How is it better than the false knight let alone the watcher knights who are in my top ten?
Oh, you're going to hate my No Eyes placement lmao
@@BillySYT Can't wait.
HOW DARE YOU CALL MY LOVE DISGUSTING
Happy birthday, my raging homosexual content creator, who I have recently discovered
We stan
I dont know what your talking about, Massive Moss Charger and Colosseum Zote are the best bosses
I kinda like Markoth. It's a pretty chill fight. Hate Xero tho. Similar to Markoth but imo much harder and less fun.
And that's totally valid. I'm just not a fan of their overall mechanics, but I can see why some would love the challenge!
Great video, but I just wanted to ask…
Why do people make their entire identity, online or even real life persona revolve around their sexuality? (Looking at your pfp) And I’m talking about masculine and straight, to gay and feminine guys. Just be a person man. A unique person. Don’t be a category. Don’t water down yourself. Imo I feel like many people are just too focused on some things. I didn’t want to sound rude or disrespectful but personally I just never understood why people do that.
Great video!
What's the song from 34:55
City of Tears
Daddy knight 🥶
The only boss I think should have been rated higher was watcher knights.
Totally fair - They're just not quite my cup of tea, even if I can recognize how well designed they are.
This might be a hot take but I don’t think there is a bad boss in hk
Pretty much agree. Outside of my Bottom 3, I love all the bosses.
Flukemarm :
Markoth at the bottom of the list
*likes the video*
No, seriously. I HATE Markoth. I have posted my third successful attempt at the Pantheon of Hallownest on my channel recently and I have made it clear that the fight vs Markoth was one of my all time worst and I was surprised to see I could survive Zote who comes right after.
It's the one boss where I think even though he "technically" is better than some of the higher placements, it's just the vibe when fighting him. He's not something I enjoy or look forward to in the slightest.
Nah my guy did watcher knights dirty, my guy needs to get good at the game
Lmao k
Is this the first time we’ve seen a face reveal?! 🚨CUTIE ALERT 🚨 CUTIE ALERT 🚨
If you go back to some of my oldest videos, I used to use myself in the thumbnails ^^
@@BillySYT that’s awesome! Also can you believe you hit over 10K subs? You really are growing at a great rate, and I see you hitting 50K next year!!
I’m surprised gorb wasn’t in the first third I’ve always found him quite easy and boring
I wasn't ranking based on difficulty. I just like Gorb, and for my personal enjoyment that's enough of a boost
wow
I like hollow knight 😮
Hollow Knight is a better follow up to dark souls 1 than anything Fromsoft made.
And yeah oh my god is ascended Markoth the worst thing ever.
I leave zote to die every single game
Smart, means no Grey Prince Zote in P5
I enjoy your videos but i disliked the joke about more children than a council flat bc it felt like a kind of knee jerk conservative stereotype about "welfare moms" (as they are called in the US. ) I'm not saying it was intended that way but that was how it came off to me.
No, I'm literally joking about the culture I was brought up and raised in about the UK. If I didn't mention America, I'm not referring to America or their systems.
@@BillySYT right I get that but I’ve lived in the uk as well and know that like being anti- poor isn’t just an American thing and a lot of stereotypes about poor people breeding out of control come from the eugenics movement. It’s a joke but a lot of times jokes reflect societal prejudices
@@forcedintofemininity I get where you're coming from but I think you're seeing an issue where none exists. Sometimes jokes do poke fun at stereotypes and are meant solely as jokes and not actual societal commentary. You have to separate serious conversation from humour because the two rarely intersect.. For example, saying something like "as drunk as an irishman dropped off at the nearest bar with an unlimited pot of gold" would be a joke poking fun at a sterotype of a nation and its people but its not actually saying that the stereotype is true or anything about the sterotype at all. Jokes do sometimes reflect prejudices and a lot of people hide discriminatory remarks behind "jokes" but the difference is that one is made purely for humour and the other is just humour as a disguise and the two are pretty easy to tell apart
@@ASmartNameForMe I think this example is interesting bc it seems to think that we can only have stereotypes about racial or national origins. There are certainly lots of stereotypes about poor people breeding indiscriminately and to me that is just as offensive
Also the fact that I gave you a chance to walk it back and you instead doubled down in a way I would consider insincere at best is telling.