SONIC & KNUCKLES: The End of the Beginning | GEEK CRITIQUE

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024

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  • @GeekCritique
    @GeekCritique  12 часов назад +33

    Welcome to the comments section! Please like & subscribe yada yada etc etc. Anyway, here's the full tracklist for the music used throughout the episode! I remember hearing Project Chaos, an Overclocked Remix album, when it first came out back in 2006, and I don't know how I could've made this episode without it!
    0:00 - Project Chaos - Beneath the Ashes
    1:00 - Dr Reverbnik - Endless Mine
    1:58 - Power Rangers (Sega Genesis) - Goldar Stage
    2:12 - Sonic Championship - North Wind (Sonic vs. Knuckles)
    3:27 - Virtual Sonic - Sonic & Knuckles Theme
    4:42 - Sonic 1 - Star Light Zone
    6:07 - Sonic 3 - Data Select
    6:36 - Sonic Championship - South Island
    7:28 - Knuckles' Chaotix - Evening Star
    8:25 - Knuckles' Chaotix - Tatchy Touch
    9:08 - Smash Bros - Super Mario World Medley
    9:25 - Streets of Rage 2 - Go Straight
    10:37 - Sonic 3 - Blue Spheres
    12:01 - Project Chaos - The Wait is Over!
    12:26 - Mushroom Hill Zone Act 1
    13:36 - Project Chaos - iMushroom
    14:27 - Mushroom Hill Zone Act 2
    16:27 - Knuckles' Chaotix - This Horizon
    17:15 - Knuckles Theme (S&K version)
    17:30 - Project Chaos - Divided from Grace
    19:04 - Duane & Brando - Sonic (Instrumental of Devastation)
    20:17 - Flying Battery Zone Act 1
    21:25 - Flying Battery Zone Act 2
    22:02 - Project Chaos - Elevator Music
    22:42 - Project Chaos - Dead Batteries
    25:05 - Dr Reverbnik - Spring Yard Zone Act 2
    27:05 - Sandopolis Zone Act 2
    27:55 - Knuckles Theme (S3 version)
    28:34 - Knuckles' Chaotix - Midnight Greenhouse
    29:21 - Knuckles' Chaotix - Moonrise
    30:12 - Act 1 Boss (S&K version)
    30:59 - Project Chaos - Live at the Sandopolis
    31:40 - Gumball Bonus
    32:09 - Lava Reef Zone Act 1
    33:24 - Dr Reverbnik - Lava Reef Zone
    34:40 - Sonic Mania - Lava Reef Zone Act 1
    35:34 - Lava Reef Zone Act 2
    36:57 - Act 2 Boss (S&K version)
    38:15 - Project Chaos - Scrambled Eggman
    39:01 - Project Chaos - Knuckleduster
    40:10 - Sonic 2 - Unused Track
    41:30 - Hidden Palace Zone
    42:00 - Sonic Mania - Lava Reef Zone Act 2
    42:29 - Sonic the Fighters - North Wind (Sonic vs. Knuckles)
    42:54 - Project Chaos - Caution! Echidnas May Eat Your Brain
    43:26 - Sonic Championship - Death Egg's Hangar (Hurry Up!)
    44:28 - Sky Sancutary Zone
    46:16 - Sonic 1 - Boss
    46:35 - Sonic 2 - Boss
    46:45 - Sonic Championship - Death Egg
    47:11 - Project Chaos - That Freezing Feeling
    48:19 - Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed - Sanctuary Falls
    50:17 - Virtual Sonic - Metal Sonic
    50:52 - Fastest Thing Alive (Instrumental)
    51:45 - Robotnik's Revenge
    52:45 - Sonic Generations - Death Egg Robot
    53:55 - Sonic Forces - Mega Death Egg Robot (Phase 3)
    54:59 - Death Egg Zone Act 1
    56:05 - Sonic 1 Master System Title Screen (PAL version)
    56:24 - Sonic 1 - Scrap Brain Zone
    57:42 - Dr Reverbnik - Death Egg Zone
    59:35 - Knuckles' Chaotix - Child's Song
    1:00:18 - Knuckles' Chaotix - Mechanical Dance
    1:01:04 - Death Egg Zone Act 2
    1:01:28 - Act 2 Boss
    1:02:10 - Sonic Generations - Big Arm
    1:04:56 - Sonic Championship - Super Sonic
    1:05:27 - Project Chaos - The Secluded Stronghold
    1:07:33 - Project Chaos - Beneath the Ashes
    1:09:13 - Virtual Sonic - Chaos Jam
    1:10:32 - Project Chaos - So Long, and Thanks for All the...

    • @gamingwithahandicapreviews
      @gamingwithahandicapreviews 12 часов назад +1

      You gotta do a retrospective on Unleashed man I’m a classic and Dreamcast era guy but Unleashed Sonic was the best and most accurate Sonic portrayal by far! Unleashed is Top tier when it comes to Sonic storytelling!

  • @arios6443
    @arios6443 11 часов назад +18

    Real fans know that Knuckles... has always chuckled. Glad to see the latest part of the Sonic & Geek Critique Saga.

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад +1

      It was another reason to think that the Adventure games were a new canon! xD

  • @Freezer94
    @Freezer94 День назад +79

    The real Sonic movie I've been waiting all year to watch.

    • @erikmclennan3934
      @erikmclennan3934 11 часов назад

      True

    • @JigInsane
      @JigInsane 8 часов назад

      This and the metroid series are absolutely must watch.

  • @JPBrooksLive
    @JPBrooksLive 11 часов назад +9

    I absolutely love TGC videos. They've gotten me through some rough times and the dedication and love that goes into each video is so amazing! Thanks, man...

    • @Dev_Astral
      @Dev_Astral 11 часов назад +6

      This guy went out of his way to send me the file of the DK video so I could watch it in the airplane while flying to my dad’s funerals.
      Helping me through a rough time is an understatement. Literally saved me from breaking down crying like an idiot in the middle of an airplane.
      It was already one of my favorite channels before, but this dude from the other side of the world helped me remember that not everyone sucks.

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад +1

      You're very welcome! Keep your head up!

  • @The1SunshineFeeler
    @The1SunshineFeeler 11 часов назад +14

    It’s finally out! I’ve been thinking about this lately: I wonder what would’ve happened if Sonic 3 & Knuckles was a Saturn launch title, it’s something not many think about! Locking the highly anticipated second half of the story to a new console probably would’ve helped the Saturn A LOT, but it could also be seen as really scummy on Sega’s part. It’s an interesting dilemma, since Sonic & Knuckles came out one month before the Japanese launch of the Saturn. Another great video, I'm really glad you brought up Yasuhara's underrated influence!

    • @sirprower
      @sirprower 10 часов назад +2

      Cool seeing you here!

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад +1

      Hmm, that would've been a REAL tough fit given how the dev team went directly from Sonic 3 to Sonic & Knuckles. I think the expectations would've always been so much higher on Saturn that if Sonic was "just" another 2D game, it would've been a bad look at the time no matter how brilliant it was. If we were gonna change the timeline, I think I'd adapt Chaotix to Saturn, instead.

  • @Erinaceus87
    @Erinaceus87 11 часов назад +8

    This is why I support you on Patreon. To view all those wonderful home movies made of you as a preschool age kid in a Barney Tee. More of that, please.
    Oh, and the Sonic stuff is alright too. But personally I'd swap Flying Battery and Sandopolis as fave and least faves. A little snowstorm has sadly foiled my plans to go see Sonic 3 tonight, so this video is more than adequate compensation. So thanks. :)

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад

      This episode definitely breaks the record for "Most Tiny Josh Footage in One Episode." Stay warm! :)

  • @MungkaeX
    @MungkaeX 11 часов назад +12

    “I hit the power button, and here’s what I saw” an Ad Break for the Pokemon TCG game plays.😂

    • @CyberdustStudios
      @CyberdustStudios 10 часов назад +1

      I got the "Become a Correctional Officer" ad

    • @LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious
      @LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious 9 часов назад +1

      I saw an ad for YT Premium. I don't use Spotify, but i assume this would be the same as hearing "want a break from the ads?" Just as the chorus is about to appear

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад

      Hmm, I should probably go in and tell RUclips NOT to put an ad right there, huh? xD We were still a little ways away from PokeMania in 1994!

    • @MungkaeX
      @MungkaeX 8 часов назад +2

      @LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious “Don’t you HATE ADS! Pay us $10 a month and forget about it till your credit card expires. Also don’t mind the fact that the small creators you watch get even less from your views than the pittance they get from each Ad you skip the second the skip button appears. They’re all rich anyway…right? Don’t think about that, think about how much you Hate those rascally Ads.”

    • @MungkaeX
      @MungkaeX 8 часов назад +2

      @@GeekCritique It’s certainly the kind of video that has more clear breaks that an ad break would make more sense than the random places RUclips tosses them.
      I get it that’s extra work though, and don’t personally fault you for not jumping through whatever hoops RUclips requires to place them in particular spots that make more sense.
      This particular example I just found funny because the transition into the ad in a place I was expecting a cut to a different scene made my brain do a double take.😆

  • @hansgretl1787
    @hansgretl1787 8 часов назад +1

    Josh has this insane ability to make me nostalgic and hyped over a game I never played before. He did it with the Storybook games, and he's doing it now.
    Never change Josh.

  • @shinysamurott613
    @shinysamurott613 11 часов назад +4

    I don't know how you do it but the way you described everything about your first day of having S&K, I could just perfectly feel and understand that exact feeling of having your child mind blown by both extremely innocent and mundane stuff like the alternate Knuckles paths in Sonic 3 and genuinely wild and out there stuff like the figuring out the Lock On Cart.

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад

      Ooh, yeah, I was hoping I could convey that! 'cause like, everybody thinks of S3&K as one and the same nowadays, and fairly so, that's what we as Sonic fans always wanted! But as someone who was there to experience them separately...

  • @cato3277
    @cato3277 11 часов назад +3

    Diggin the long hair, man!! Glad to see a new upload, much love.

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад +2

      Right back at'cha! Well, the "much love," part, I can't see your hair!

  • @HamtaroSonicHedgehog
    @HamtaroSonicHedgehog 10 часов назад +6

    31:09 THANK YOU regarding that comment about the haters and Sonic Origins. People really treat that compilation like as if it's the equivalent to Sonic 1 on the GBA and I find that incredibly unfair. Yes Sega definitely did screw up with it at launch regarding the DLC situation and the multitude of problems it had, I won't defend them on that, but Origins is far from a broken mess of a collection, especially after patch updates properly fixed most of the issues it had. And even then, the issues it had weren't game-breaking by any means. Hell I had gotten the game at launch and I only encounter two bugs that didn't even affect gameplay.
    Whether it's definitive is a matter of opinion (Especially regarding the music situation with Sonic 3.) but I still think it's a great collection worth picking up.

    • @TomTheyy
      @TomTheyy 9 часов назад +1

      Right? Especially with the UltraFix mod that has done wonders to it. IDK if people may still take issue with stuff like S3&K's physics being a bit different allegedly because of crunch, guest star Dave even mentioned it on Twitter one time alongside podcast cohost Shoogles, but if there's one franchise with entries fans are kinder to in retrospect, it's the one with Sonic 06 in it.

    • @bingobo2551
      @bingobo2551 7 часов назад

      Part of the reason for this treatment was because of Sega delisting most versions of the classic sonic games (aside from the better mobile versions, 3D versions on 3ds & the sega ages ports on switch)

  • @Poxysocks
    @Poxysocks 11 часов назад +3

    Early Christmas gift from tgc lets gooooooo

  • @delasol_13
    @delasol_13 11 часов назад +4

    Dude that hair is looking majestic! Great work as always

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад

      I appreciate it! That's what three years of no haircuts will get'cha!

  • @BlueJack222
    @BlueJack222 9 часов назад +3

    I'm surprised you did not talk about hypersonic or you didn't discover him as a kid and also I can't wait for the next episode

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад

      I *love* Hyper Sonic! But he only exists in Sonic 3 & Knuckles, and since this was just supposed to be about Sonic & Knuckles, I stuck with Super.

  • @ChuckyChickenCartoons
    @ChuckyChickenCartoons 9 часов назад +2

    Happy 10th, Josh! As a fellow lifelong Sonic fan, your passion for S&K is inspiring; I gotta admit I was worried I'd missed three full reviews when I saw this uploaded, but as a celebratory piece for a decade on RUclips, this was fantastic. Love your work, PLEASE don't ever stop, and lookin' forward to the next way past cool video you got headed our way! Keep on juicin' and jammin', pal!

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад +1

      Up, over, and... still critiquin'! :D

  • @spacepope8495
    @spacepope8495 7 часов назад

    Yet another incredibly high quality video from The Geek Critique… you love to see it

  • @PigeonLord21
    @PigeonLord21 20 часов назад +8

    46:55 This design has always been so damn good.
    I think there's a reason the creator of Super Mario Bros Z decided to use this specific Metal Sonic design as its big imposing villain!

    • @villageronps5317
      @villageronps5317 10 часов назад +1

      Probably a hot take but I think Mecha’s design is even better than the normal Metal Sonic. It’s so imposing. He just looks built to mess shit up.
      I’m glad the comics finally gave him the comeback he deserved. I hope he shows up in them again.

  • @Abykitty06
    @Abykitty06 8 часов назад +1

    this might be one of the best geek critique episodes, it gives me such a different perspective from the one i had, and im incredibly thankful ive gotten to hear it. Video is nothing short of phenomenal, thank you so much josh :D ♥️

  • @Poxysocks
    @Poxysocks 10 часов назад +2

    18:07 i can tell here that josh and I had very similar childhoods. First video game I ever played was a Christmas gift, the port of super mario bros 3 for the GBA, along with the strategy guide for the game. I loved that book so much i had all the enemy names and secrets memorized; read that book till the cover came off. Most of the favorite games from my childhood are accompanied in my brain by memories of the manuals and strategy guides i read over and over and over.
    Hope one day we’ll hear your thoughts on bowser’s inside story, that’s one of those games.
    Happy 10 years to one of the most underrated channels on this site!

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад +1

      Haha, yeah, there are quite a few spots in this video where I directly reference things I remember from the strategy guide without directly calling it out, just in case anybody else read it as much as I did. I love how incredibly worn my Sonic 2 manual looks too, and I've got a bunch of 'em with the covers falling off myself!

  • @cookiestar3069
    @cookiestar3069 12 часов назад +3

    I am so hyped to watch this ahhh!! Thank you for your amazing videos, Josh :D

  • @fiddlestickjones
    @fiddlestickjones 11 часов назад +2

    I got home, first thing I see, new tgc video, truly a good day

  • @RowdyReider
    @RowdyReider 8 часов назад +1

    Holy cow… I did NOT know about that Sando 1 boss trick in Origins! Great video man!

  • @pixeldoesthings
    @pixeldoesthings 12 часов назад +4

    Screamed like a lunatic when I saw Katana Zero footage, that game's an all time favorite and it feels right up TGC's alley. Happy 10th!

  • @CrappyBlue
    @CrappyBlue 11 часов назад +4

    oh i feel SO great right now hearing you call flying battery your least favorite zone in the entirety of sonic 3... shaking your hand bigtime 🤝 this has been the (neo green) hill i've been dying on for years now

    • @CrappyBlue
      @CrappyBlue 11 часов назад +2

      AND THE SANDOPOLIS LOVE? this 10th anniversary video could not be a better winter solstice gift

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад +1

      I prefer Turquoise myself, but Sonic gives us a lot of hills to choose from!

  • @SpinyPuffs
    @SpinyPuffs 11 часов назад +2

    I don't know if you'll see this but I've followed you for quite a while now, and I gotta say, I kinda love your approach to critique. They feel like a story about your experience with a game that you're excited to share with the world, especially with how you weave personal stories into them. It makes me wanna just sit down and have a chat with you. I've come to realize that I'm really turned off by serious, analytical critique that seem like an "objective" diatribe even though it's all based on one's perspective, especially if it's multiple hours long.
    All this to say, you're an inspiration. Here's to 10 more years.

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад

      I mean, I don't fault how anyone else does it, but I could never do this WITHOUT putting a whole lot of *me* into it, y'know? Glad you dig it, and thanks for the kind words!

  • @GhostyOcean
    @GhostyOcean 10 часов назад

    I gotta say, the way you tell your stories is so addictive.

  • @Ruckus707
    @Ruckus707 12 часов назад +3

    2 Sonic movies in 1 day, what a great day for me!!

  • @diegoarmando5489
    @diegoarmando5489 11 часов назад +5

    So Strategy Guide Knuckles spoke like Rob Ford on a drunken crack bender?
    Nice.

    • @Outta-hz1ej
      @Outta-hz1ej 8 часов назад

      "I have plenty of grapes to eat at home."

  • @Tesstarossa51
    @Tesstarossa51 23 часа назад +9

    Hirokazu Yasuhara actually worked on Sonic Xtreme surprisingly which almost makes me wish it came out

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад

      Yep! While the rest of Sonic Team worked on NiGHTS, Yasuhara stuck with Sonic. He actually lived in the UK for a while, helping Traveler's Tales with 3D Blast and Sonic R!

  • @MerelyAFan
    @MerelyAFan 9 часов назад +2

    While there would be solid titles released after, Sonic & Knuckles in many ways feels like the culmination of what the Genesis was. Software pushing the limits of 16-bit hardware, feeling a full-fledged adventure while still staying true to Sega's arcade mentality, and being part of a game so big, it took two cartridges to fully do it justice.
    The company had utilized sports titles and price cuts to effectively get the market share of sales in the US and maintained it for a few years, but Sonic spearheaded that success, with the strongest years of the system being dominated by a game from it on the console every single year. While it wasn't the best-selling entry in the series, there's even more of retroactive finality to Sonic & Knuckles because (speaking a kid that had a Genesis and SNES) it was the last time that early to mid 90s conception of Sonic was at the top of the mountain. Within two months after the game's release, the gaming space irrevocably shifted.
    Donkey Kong Country comes out for the SNES, not only doing great business as the graphical killer app for that console but being the release that really pushes Nintendo to regain market share in North America. The Saturn arrives in Japan, officially marking the end of Genesis/Megadrive's reign as the sole mainline Sega console (with Sonic never ending up as the same kind of major figure in it). And the Playstation arrives there shortly after, soon emerging as the first major player to be actual competition to the big two worldwide.
    In a lot of ways what Sonic had been in that 1991-1994 period; the contemporary series doing unthinkable graphical feats, the focus of Sega's software efforts, and franchise that was actively challenging Nintendo in places like the US? It would not be that in the immediate years after 1994 (and some would say never would be again). In the respect, beyond the brilliance of its platforming/speed/exploration fused level design, the on-point aesthetics, and eternally masterful music, Sonic & Knuckles is further special because it is the peak of what Classic Sonic meant in its time before the world forever changed.

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад +1

      Well-said, as always! And yeah, this was the final moment where the video game industry would be defined as "Sega versus Nintendo," as well as the FIRST time since the release of Sonic 1 that Nintendo had the edge in that battle.

  • @meohmy1117
    @meohmy1117 10 часов назад

    Great video. I could hear and feel your passion for the series. Appreciate all your knowledge about the games mechanics.

  • @SdudyoyO
    @SdudyoyO День назад +4

    I'll need to watch this tomorrow--But I can't wait!
    This one's still my favorite Sonic game!

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  День назад +4

      Yeaaaah, apologies for posting it at 4am my time, but these things are done when they're done! xD Sleep good!

  • @SpudNinjaVA
    @SpudNinjaVA 9 часов назад

    "Babe, wake up! New GeekCritique video!"
    Also, NIIIIIIICE mane!

  • @nibot2101
    @nibot2101 12 часов назад +3

    I Love your videos, there quality is extraordinary, the videos are funny and they are always a great time. Keep up the good work 👍👍👍

  • @matthewwonks2534
    @matthewwonks2534 12 часов назад +4

    I love hearing about these misconceptions as a kid. I remember thinking Knuckles looked like a cow (ie: not an elongated snout) when he teetered at the end Launch Base Zone. 😂
    I always thought that about a possible S&K tattoo, too! (Outside something family-related.)

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад +1

      I had a war of worlds with my best friend in Kindergarten because he was absolutely SURE that Tails was a girl!

  • @MystiaLore
    @MystiaLore 10 часов назад

    I have no others words but "Thank you" for the passion you carry across all theses videos. It was a very fun ride since I first saw that Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze video for the first time, and I hope it will continue for a very long time ^^.

  • @LunDruid
    @LunDruid 10 часов назад +1

    One thing I love about your videos is comparing/contrasting your experience of this franchise with mine. I was born in late 1987 and I can't be more than a few months older than you, but I still had a bit of a different experience with the games. I fell in love with all the lore and storytelling, vague as it was, but honestly always sucked at the gameplay until I was older and a friend taught me the cheat codes. I had Sonic 1, then later 2, and then eventually 3, but I wouldn't get S&K until some time after it had been released, and even then it was a used copy (actually so was my copy of 3; it had bite marks on the box. T_T ) But by that point I already knew that both 3 & Knuckles were two halves of one game, so I basically never played S&K on its own.
    I'm pretty sure my childhood copies still have their saves on them.
    I also loved reading the manuals, learning as much as I could about these games. If I'd had that strategy guide, I would have read it over and over. I love this franchise.
    Thanks so much for your videos, they are such a treat every time.

  • @scottv2010
    @scottv2010 11 часов назад +3

    Omg it's Christmas 1994 all over again today

  • @n8thegreat682
    @n8thegreat682 9 часов назад +2

    (This is about Donkey Kong and Metroid, not sonic, sorry) HI, I just wanted to comment and say thank you! I loved DKC returns but I found out about tropical freeze from your video, and tropical freeze is my favorite video game, of all time. And I had never played a Metroid game before I started watching this channel, and I’m starting my third play though of zero mission as we speak. Your channel has helped me find some of my favorite games, and some of my favorite RUclips videos. Thank you so much for being such a great RUclipsr. Just gonna keep hoping for DKC 6(and if it does happen, a TGC about it asap)

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад +1

      Well, at least we got all three Donkey Kong Lands on NSO lately! And Returns is getting a modern port next month. *AND* Super Nintendo World has that DKC expansion. Hopefully all this smoke is a good sign of a fire...

  • @ChocolateAsylum
    @ChocolateAsylum 8 часов назад +2

    Rocking that Sonic & Knuckles hoodie! I have the same one I got from Box Lunch, they always kill it with the Sonic merch!

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад

      Yep, I'm not normally much of a "long sleeves" guy, but I'm SO glad I got this one!

  • @FletcherReedsRandomness
    @FletcherReedsRandomness 11 часов назад +4

    I played Sonic & Knuckles way before Sonic 3. Back in middle school, I had one of those terrible AtGames portable Genesis systems (the ones with very noticeable input lag and horrible sound quality), and it had Sonic 1, 2 and Knuckles, but no Sonic 3. I wasn’t very good at Sonic then so I never got past Flying Battery Act 2. It wasn’t until high school when I finally played Sonic 3 and realized it and Sonic & Knuckles were two halves of one game. It’s my less preferred half because Sandopolis Act 2 exists, but it still makes for a great second half to me. Death Egg Zone’s theme is one of the biggest bangers on the Genesis btw.

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      Y'know, in an earlier version of the script, I had a bit related to that:
      ---
      For whatever reason, Sonic & Knuckles always seemed a little more common to me than Sonic 3. Maybe because it was the last major Sonic game on the Genesis? Maybe because it didn’t have a save battery and was cheaper to make? Whatever the case, I knew quite a few kids growing up who had this and this, but not THIS.
      And that’s just MY age group. Sonic 3 was persona non grata for over a decade, unable to be re-released on compilations and mini-consoles… but Sonic & Knuckles WAS. I think it’s reasonable to assume at this point that a not-insignificant number of people have played Sonic & Knuckles, but not Sonic 3. Some of them, like a be-hair-gelled kid I knew in 8th grade, might have grown up loving S&K, without even knowing there WAS a Sonic 3.

  • @zgiffish
    @zgiffish 11 часов назад

    i love when i open the description at the same time he says the line thats in the description, now that's a well made video

  • @anthonytamuzza591
    @anthonytamuzza591 7 часов назад

    Nice early Christmas gift TGC.

  • @Dustin_VG
    @Dustin_VG 10 часов назад +1

    -and you did a good job with it!
    (lock on to the Sonic 3 video to get the full comment)

  • @damienk777
    @damienk777 10 часов назад

    Loved watching this video. I played Sonic 3 & Knuckles just a few years ago for the first time, after Mania and I must say; It's still timeless, I relate to how epic the story feels and how the game plays so nicely. It's truely a masterpiece.

  • @shadedzeal8482
    @shadedzeal8482 10 часов назад

    This video was Good, Great, Awesome, Outstanding, AMAZING!

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад +1

      FINAL COLOR BLASTER & KNUCKLES...!

  • @ReinMixTape
    @ReinMixTape 7 часов назад

    Awesome video; I loved the real life tie ins and effort put into it. Zone wise my least favorite stage was Sandopolis because of the ghosts, the light switches to make them go away briefly, and rising sand traps. Now I hated this zone the most because when you come through as Sonic... stage 2 is treated as Knuckles has been through before. So the ghosts are already out and one hit KO (OKO) you as sonic right away, because you have no rings yet.

  • @shoogles_
    @shoogles_ 11 часов назад +2

    The only good game of all time

  • @MacungieSun
    @MacungieSun 9 часов назад

    The second half of what has become my favorite game of all time, a game I first played at age 4 when it was new, 30 years ago....
    That logo is so powerful

  • @MathewGX
    @MathewGX 10 часов назад

    Quality content as always, man. Keep it up!

  • @WilfredoWolganG
    @WilfredoWolganG 7 часов назад

    "...and here's what I saw."
    Commercial. 😂

  • @Miss-Alexis
    @Miss-Alexis 9 часов назад

    I've been hoping you'd return to this game! Lava Reef is my favorite zone in it too. I'm sure it must've taken some restraint not to talk about Sonic 3, but if you DID ever feel like revisiting that game, I'd happily watch it. I really like your modern, long-form approach to these

  • @emacsterm2949
    @emacsterm2949 10 часов назад

    One of my favorite games of all time. Had it on the PC back in the day. Discovering Hyper Sonic, knuckles and tails forms was so amazing. Also, still one of my favorite game soundtracks. A true classic.

  • @The_Kenster
    @The_Kenster День назад +3

    god i love that project chaos album.

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      I love it more now than ever! One of my favorites is the Doomsday Zone remix, but it didn't really fit my script so I couldn't use it.

  • @paris-1911
    @paris-1911 8 часов назад

    Loving the video so far, dude. Just one question...
    35:00 was that stream ever archived anywhere?

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      Yep, here you go! The quality isn't great and I get VERY LOUD though!
      ruclips.net/user/liveoU5ChbFD85U

  • @yupperdoodles
    @yupperdoodles 7 часов назад

    Excellent video! I do want to comment on the Death Egg Zone music, not as a musical expert, but as an enjoyer of music. While I see the argument that because the Death Egg is such an important element of the series (especially the Genesis games) the music that plays there should be more thematic and defining of the kind of place it is, I've always thought of the music as matching how it feels to be there. And to Sonic the Hedgehog, running through the Death Egg isn't really dark or scary, because to him, if he tries, he can do anything. The music of Death Egg Zone matches the determination he has to blast through Robotnik's base and shut it down for good. And that music flows really well from the music that was just playing in Sky Sanctuary Zone. There, the music has elements of a sort of mystical reverence (we are in a sanctuary floating above the clouds, after all), but it is still energetic and determined, because Robotnik just swiped the Master Emerald and injured Knuckles, and it is up to Sonic to chase him down and keep him from getting away. So when you do finally get on the Death Egg, the music shifts from "He's getting away, let's go after him!" to "We caught up to him. Here. We. Go!" And that whole sequence from the beginning of Sky Sanctuary all the way through the Death Egg creates such a rush for the player. I think the game wants the player to feel determination to take back the Master Emerald, instead of fear of such an ominous place. That's how I perceive it, and I think it works really well. If I play Sky Sanctuary Zone, I can't stop there, I have to play through Death Egg Zone too, because that rush of determination is so strong.

  • @ParmMannREBORN
    @ParmMannREBORN 7 часов назад

    New Geek Critique video!

  • @villageronps5317
    @villageronps5317 8 часов назад

    51:27 This actually reminded me, in one of the later Archie comics it’s revealed that Snivley was piloting the Eggrobo during Knuckles’ story. There’s a flashback panel that shows him crawling out after Mecha Sonic accidentally blew it up. (This was after the soft-reboot that made the comic continuity more like the games.)

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      They did that in #25 (the Sonic CD adaptation) too! They had Snivley dress up as Robotnik and pilot the Egg-o-matic during the Metal Sonic chase! So when I played CD, I thought it was Snivley up there!

  • @zyanbob
    @zyanbob 12 часов назад +1

    7:10 Genius? You thought knuckles was a damsel in distress that sonic had to save and that all knuckles could do was punch air

  • @Zweih
    @Zweih 7 часов назад

    haha 36:19 you're cheeky giving the correct pronunciation like that

  • @robertlauncher
    @robertlauncher 11 часов назад +1

    My least favorite zones are both in the Sonic 3 portion and depend on whether it’s based on the Genesis version or if it’s Origins. The former is Marble Garden because it uses the screen view to catch you off guard a few too many times for my liking. In Origins, I think the wonky crushing hitboxes butcher Carnival Night. I agree Origins is great though. I just wish it had more time to cook

  • @plaip6404
    @plaip6404 11 часов назад +1

    I appreciate that you explained “mon” but not “no probalo.” It conveys an implicit assumption that all TGC fans are also Homestar nerds, which sounds good to me.

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад +1

      I would never expect less from my audience! So, originally I was planning to wear a red muscle shirt and appear on-screen *as* Knuckles next to my "real" self, and I'd speak as white and generic as possible. But I needed to get the episode done before 2025 and doing all that would be a headache, so I decided to do it like this instead. But THEN the problem was Knuckles just sounded like me, but monotone, and that didn't really land either. The solution, of course, was Senor Cardgage.

  • @robertlauncher
    @robertlauncher 10 часов назад

    “Unlike Sonic, I don’t chuckle.”
    Even tho that’s one of the first things I ever did, yo!

  • @Outta-hz1ej
    @Outta-hz1ej 7 часов назад

    It's true, every eggrobo launched in the cutscene is the same amount as there are in the level!

  • @jordanhoughton1948
    @jordanhoughton1948 8 часов назад

    Maybe the real blast processing was the Sonics we Knuckled along the way.

  • @veteran002
    @veteran002 9 часов назад

    I am surprised you didn't mention the painting in the hidden palace at the fight with Knuckles that foreshadows Doomsday Zone.

  • @matthewwonks2534
    @matthewwonks2534 8 часов назад

    I had a difficult time adjusting to any platformer post Sonic 1, too, due to its inventive (and forgiving) ring system.

  • @benortiz8702
    @benortiz8702 8 часов назад

    Something about this title feels more ominous than “the beginning of the end” to me

  • @Islandswamp
    @Islandswamp 7 часов назад

    I played through the entire game of knuckles chaotix with my younger brother. In co-op of course.

  • @jay5286
    @jay5286 12 часов назад +1

    I never forget my parents got me Sega Genesis for Christmas the one that came with Sonic the Hedgehog 2 I guess you would call it the slim model nowadays. Great times

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  8 часов назад +1

      Yep, model 2, that was mine too! I had no idea the model 1 even existed for a long time!

    • @jay5286
      @jay5286 7 часов назад

      @@GeekCritique I only know of it because my cousin had it but looking back at it model 1 was the cooler looking one lmo

  • @AnimalXing
    @AnimalXing 9 часов назад +1

    Your parents are the best

  • @BagMonster
    @BagMonster 12 часов назад +1

    I have an important question. Will the Bird Dad plush ever return?

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      Alisha says we could do another run sometime! Maybe in the summer, when she's not in school!

  • @veteran002
    @veteran002 9 часов назад

    Me whose favorite level is Flying Battery. "HOW DARE YOU SIR!!!"

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      Much like, "Which Brothers Bear is best?", there's no wrong answer to "What's your favorite level in Sonic 3 & Knuckles?"

  • @bbblll1415
    @bbblll1415 12 часов назад +3

    Josh, I love your channel and I've watched all your uploads. But when are you going to review Ocarina of Time?

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      To keep the bit going, I'll have to do Banjo-Kazooie first.

  • @Flower_Mom
    @Flower_Mom 9 часов назад

    I always thought of Knuckles as the Geno to Sonic's Mario (with Tails being his Mallow).

  • @Zweih
    @Zweih 8 часов назад

    I was not prepared for the long hair josh jumpscare

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      I've had it for a long time, but it's usually in a ponytail so you can't really tell.

  • @Deen12864
    @Deen12864 10 часов назад +1

    48:18 He's my favorite too :)

  • @LordEmpyreal
    @LordEmpyreal 9 часов назад

    Damn, I was a genesis kid in the 90's played this game again and again on Genesis, Gamecube, Xbox 360, and once again with Origins. And I did NOT know you could flip the spike top enemies in the Death Egg boss. Mind blown.

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      Neither did Covarr, my beta-reader! That's why I threw that line in, "As long as you know..." I was hoping I'd teach people who love this game things they didn't know about it!

  • @mistersonic93
    @mistersonic93 10 часов назад

    25:55 I got stuck here so much as a kid too!

  • @TomTheyy
    @TomTheyy 9 часов назад

    Not gonna lie, I thought when music theory was mentioned here that it was gonna be Alex Yard. Also, I honestly thought the spin dash trick in Death Egg Zone Act 2's boss was something the Origins version added.

  • @thelastwindwaker7948
    @thelastwindwaker7948 8 часов назад

    1:04:50 That must be something they added to Origins, cause I always remember the Master Emerald getting stuck in the planet's atmosphere.

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      Ooh, good catch, I actually recorded my lines originally saying that's what happens, because that's how I remember it too! But then I realized... that's only in Sonic 3 & Knuckles! In S3&K, he drops the emerald, which then just stops in the atmosphere. In S&K, he runs off it with it no matter what, which really makes a lot more sense.

  • @haberbro5282
    @haberbro5282 12 часов назад +1

    Oh my god

  • @Arkouchie
    @Arkouchie 8 часов назад

    36:20 i see you Josh, making fun of both sides of that argument :p

  • @Sebberboi
    @Sebberboi 11 часов назад

    HE'S BACK WOOOOOOOOOO

  • @BlueJack222
    @BlueJack222 9 часов назад

    10:08
    Validation for Superstars 🎉

  • @TheRealBatabii
    @TheRealBatabii 10 часов назад

    "stalagmites hanging from the ceiling" 😏

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      Listen. How do we know Sonic isn't just running on the ceiling?

  • @Zweih
    @Zweih 8 часов назад

    NEW TGC LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  • @matthewwonks2534
    @matthewwonks2534 8 часов назад

    I always thought that racoon bot was just a pallet swap of the mole bot from Mushroom Hill.

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      It's definitely built from the same base, but there's a lot of extra detail there.

  • @TerminX13
    @TerminX13 11 часов назад +1

    long hair gang

  • @Spookyn.
    @Spookyn. 12 часов назад +1

    Oh yeah!!+

  • @ohhhyeahhhhhhhhhh
    @ohhhyeahhhhhhhhhh 8 часов назад

    you found the single most controversial pronunciation of hydrocity

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад +1

      I'm the only one who knows how it's really pronounced!

  • @Islandswamp
    @Islandswamp 7 часов назад

    I’m older than you by a few years must be. I was in 7th or eighth grade when these games came out

  • @bemblob
    @bemblob 7 часов назад

    Where can I watch your initial play through of Sonic Mania?

  • @HamtaroSonicHedgehog
    @HamtaroSonicHedgehog 10 часов назад

    Also is that Sonic Mania Livestream you did all those years ago still around? I'm really curious to see how you reacted when you saw Lava Reef for the first time since I didn't get to see that livestream from back then. XD

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      Yep, here it is! Be warned though, the quality isn't great and I get VERY LOUD: ruclips.net/user/liveoU5ChbFD85U

  • @deshawnwilliams503
    @deshawnwilliams503 10 часов назад

    How do I watch your Sonic Mania playthrough stream?

  • @BringMayFlowers
    @BringMayFlowers 9 часов назад

    Wow, is this the longest TGC episode?

    • @GeekCritique
      @GeekCritique  7 часов назад

      Second-longest, I think! Only Metroid Dread is longer.

  • @SuperFlik
    @SuperFlik 7 часов назад

    Gotta be honest, I have the exact opposite feelings about Flying Battery and Sandopolis. i love everything about Flying Battery, but think Sandopolis is the worst Sonic & Knuckles zone

  • @Skye_pls
    @Skye_pls 11 часов назад

    wow the one guy that hates flying battery

    • @Hyp3rSonic
      @Hyp3rSonic 8 часов назад

      ???

    • @Hyp3rSonic
      @Hyp3rSonic 8 часов назад

      He actually hates it??? I just thought that it was his least favorite level. He actually hates it? 🤔

  • @brendanbleecker9639
    @brendanbleecker9639 11 часов назад

    Will you ever review the Sega Saturn especially Sega's most underrated franchise ever Panzer Dragoon?

  • @CatInSuit69
    @CatInSuit69 11 часов назад

    why did they make knuckles jamaican?????????????????????????
    edit: 47:57 i dont know if it was intentional but your hair covering knuckles' face is really cool for what this part of the video is