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  • @kingkongchief1177
    @kingkongchief1177 11 месяцев назад +19714

    Viserys telling Daemon Rhaenyra is just a girl……while he’s married and has 4 kids with his daughters best friend who’s also just a girl LMAO

    • @Johnson_2022
      @Johnson_2022 11 месяцев назад +1270

      Not his daughter so not his problem 😂

    • @MaredOwen163
      @MaredOwen163 11 месяцев назад +543

      Egzactly viserys was a good king but he never saw any of his faults but he saw the faults in others that’s one thing I don’t like in him really daemon was a perfect match for his daughter he was a strong prince married to a strong woman who became a strong queen and he was a good protective father and husband

    • @Johnson_2022
      @Johnson_2022 11 месяцев назад +418

      @@MaredOwen163 well considering he murdered his wife for her inheritance, wouldn't exactly rank him high in the husband department 😆

    • @cassiusfelix2805
      @cassiusfelix2805 11 месяцев назад +23

      Make it make sense

    • @lordsathariel4384
      @lordsathariel4384 11 месяцев назад +63

      i think that's down to the fact I'm pretty sure wedding her wasn't his choice and she wasn't his pick and i think hightower influenced it so daemon had to stay in the vale with her so he grew to personally despise her @@Johnson_2022

  • @animeheadshot1016
    @animeheadshot1016 9 месяцев назад +8995

    "What Lord will wed her now in this condition?!"
    Bro, she's a Targaryen princess and dragon rider, they won't give a damn.

    • @cyclone9540
      @cyclone9540 6 месяцев назад +516

      And heir to the iron throne😂

    • @TheReal_Antrey
      @TheReal_Antrey 6 месяцев назад +231

      I think the Lanisters were quite eager to take the hit for the realm

    • @ninjaslasherslash6167
      @ninjaslasherslash6167 6 месяцев назад +37

      They will probably judge and wait for her to make a mistake

    • @ninjaslasherslash6167
      @ninjaslasherslash6167 6 месяцев назад +35

      That’s how it was during those times especially for women

    • @vinito19
      @vinito19 6 месяцев назад +80

      ​@@ninjaslasherslash6167how was it for dragon riding women?

  • @ericgaines5470
    @ericgaines5470 11 месяцев назад +3960

    Daemon was too wild for his brother's mindset. If only his brother could see that the people he relied on for peace sought his power the most.

    • @gwendolynmorgan7803
      @gwendolynmorgan7803 9 месяцев назад +50

      Ehh Otto was the bigger problem here. He sowed dissent between Viserys and any ally that wasn't from Oldtown 👀

    • @joshuarobinson6011
      @joshuarobinson6011 4 месяца назад +26

      To be fair, daemon loves viserys and never tried to steal the crown. He simply wanted viserys to recognise everything daemon did for him which we can see in a conversation between daemon and viserys
      Yeah daemon wasn’t necessarily a good person but he never tried to usurp viserys and only wanted recognition for the shit he did for viserys. He even gives viserys the crown he got when he was named king of the narrow sea and said “but I know there is only one true king” daemon could’ve stayed there and ruled but he went back to his brother and surrendered his crown

    • @RABJJ52
      @RABJJ52 3 месяца назад

      @@joshuarobinson6011 Daemon was an absolute dog shit scumbag piece of trash… Let’s not hide that fact that if any fanfiction bullshit, you guys may think your conjuring up…he was complete garbage😂😂😂

    • @julianmarco4185
      @julianmarco4185 Месяц назад +3

      The show never showed this but Viserys had the power of his ancestors to see the future in his dreams.
      So he knew that if he agreed with Deamon, he would out his family on a unstoppable path of civil war.
      The reason he chose to marry and have more kids is because he saw the kind of future would happen when he was gone and it pretty spelled that Deamon would take Rheanyra as a wife and become probably a huge tyrant.
      So he saw some hope that they could solve this diplomatically and put a better ruler on the throne. Aegon was definitely not wise or good, but he wasn't power-hungry or tyrannical, he would sooner let his Grandfather rule Westeros as his Hand.
      It's a huge story but suffice it to say: this was the one chance for Targaryens to thrive and survive into the next millennium maybe restore some vestige of old Valerya and they failed.

    • @veronicashields4405
      @veronicashields4405 24 дня назад +2

      One of the interesting ironies of the stories is that everybody is both right and wrong. Daemon sees the Hightowers for what they are, but the Hightowers are correct that he's not a fit heir for the throne. He's too impetuous and temperamental.
      And arguably, Daemon doesn't actually want to be king in the way Otto suggests. He wants the power and believes fiercely in the might of the Targaryen house, but he'd hate the constrictiveness of the throne. What he wants is his brother to see him as a worthy heir to power, which he conflates with being seen as next in line.
      Otto may have been right that the kingdom wouldn't accept a queen, but...he may have actually been wrong. A lot of social change comes from it being forced. People adapt. He's disingenuous about his real motivations there.
      And through all of this, Viserys is actually the only one who sees what holds the kingdom together - the image of the dragons, the delusion that they have control over them. He understood that they all needed to be playing along together, upholding that illusion for this all to work. That's why he kept insisting on harmony. He just didn't have the strength to do what was needed to see it through.

  • @dlanigeragehs2595
    @dlanigeragehs2595 11 месяцев назад +9472

    If only he listened to him.

    • @secondwindproductions5157
      @secondwindproductions5157 11 месяцев назад +414

      If only Daemon didnt continuously embarass and insult his older brother, the king.

    • @neville2308
      @neville2308 11 месяцев назад +233

      @@secondwindproductions5157he was loyal af to his brother other than the night his wife and baby died, that was awful. But other than that, totally loyal and kind to his brother.

    • @secondwindproductions5157
      @secondwindproductions5157 11 месяцев назад +138

      @@neville2308 He was causing trouble left and right. Viserys had to cover up for him all the time when the rest of the council want to punish him. Daemon took his love for granted.

    • @v_cpt-phasma_v689
      @v_cpt-phasma_v689 11 месяцев назад +2

      no way u think daemon is the good guy here, hes literally a pedophile who only cares about his own personal power

    • @halvorson566
      @halvorson566 11 месяцев назад +88

      @@secondwindproductions5157the rest of the council was against Viserys secretly&followed Otto who hated Daemon.

  • @brejaanurag8835
    @brejaanurag8835 11 месяцев назад +2674

    One minute Conqueror , next minute again Rouge Prince

    • @CytorrakAvatar
      @CytorrakAvatar 11 месяцев назад +15

      I thought he was the lipstick prince.

    • @johnniecinco6698
      @johnniecinco6698 11 месяцев назад +22

      Sadly for Daemon, he had a record of throwing shit to Viserys for so long that his older brother had no choice but stop taking any of his words seriously.

    • @spikegilfer1997
      @spikegilfer1997 10 месяцев назад +1

      Rider of the Rouge Wyrm, Caraxes.

    • @suivzmoi
      @suivzmoi 7 месяцев назад +3

      maybe it's Maybelline?

  • @jjh2456
    @jjh2456 11 месяцев назад +2416

    Daemon and Rhaenyra were inevitable. Best to marry them off now. Viserys should’ve taken the offer.

    • @Ipipeyourmom
      @Ipipeyourmom 9 месяцев назад

      I’d be pissed off too if my brother fucked my kid

    • @cassier3544
      @cassier3544 7 месяцев назад +74

      Agreed, could have avoided the whole battle and and argument of rhaenyras future children, after all , they wouldn’t be half strong they’d be all Targaryen

    • @andrewpassos7239
      @andrewpassos7239 6 месяцев назад +16

      Viserys took the pride route, now, Rhaenyra has a bunch of weaklings as sons....

    • @ucky9675
      @ucky9675 6 месяцев назад +28

      Outside of doubting his brother Viserys needed Rhaenyra to marry into house Valentin to appease the sea king. Viserys was suppose to marry the sea kings daughter Laena if he ever needed to marry again. He slighted the sea king when he chose to marry Alicent instead. To make amends he forced his daughter to marry the sea king’s son Laenor- this put his daughter in serious harms way since he knew Laenor was a homosexual. It was one of the reasons Viserys defended Rhaenyra so hard later. He felt guilty for putting his daughter in an impossible situation. If Rhaenyra’s didn’t marry Laenor then the kingdom would lose their greatest ally and risk war. On the other hand Viserys knew that because Laenor was a homosexual the possibility of grandchildren was slim- if Rhaenyra didn’t miraculously have a son then their would be great instability, explaining that Rhaenyra want pregnant because the sea kings don’t was gay would get Laenor killed and risk war with the Sea King. Either way viserys caused all this

    • @catsrus-es9eu
      @catsrus-es9eu 2 месяца назад +7

      ​@@ucky9675excellent point. And since they all knew he was homosexual, the Sea King should've just agreed to impregnate Rynaera for his son. Awkward but it had to be done. Best solution since Viseryes had to have Alicient

  • @TheTruthIsGonnaHurt
    @TheTruthIsGonnaHurt 11 месяцев назад +1642

    Viserys has that instant rage.
    Nice guy, nice guy, nice guy, BOOM, knife to throat!

    • @JoeyBBiden
      @JoeyBBiden 11 месяцев назад

      Lol...his brother fucked his daughter. I would do A LOT more than threaten death to my brother. I would actively pursue his death daily.

    • @MisstressMourtisha
      @MisstressMourtisha 9 месяцев назад +7

      Haha yeaaa

    • @LifeInPink999
      @LifeInPink999 5 месяцев назад +45

      Rage coming from a nice person is always the scariest one because people don't expect it.

    • @zzulm
      @zzulm 3 месяца назад +8

      The rage was in him all the time he was just masking it trying to make the people around him happy.

    • @andregordon2599
      @andregordon2599 3 месяца назад +12

      GRRM said TV Viserys was better than the one he wrote. It’s little stuff like that that proves him right

  • @RicegumNeverBrokeAgain
    @RicegumNeverBrokeAgain 11 месяцев назад +4986

    It's sad that viserys always doubted daemon

    • @blazeblade761
      @blazeblade761 11 месяцев назад +238

      Its hard not to daemon always has some hidden plan

    • @blessieshane1445
      @blessieshane1445 11 месяцев назад +56

      were u hearing what he said 😑😑😑

    • @labeedtore7590
      @labeedtore7590 11 месяцев назад

      Bro he wanted to fuck his daughter I think his doubt is justifiable

    • @LordNightHowler
      @LordNightHowler 11 месяцев назад

      Deamon was a scumbag.

    • @RicegumNeverBrokeAgain
      @RicegumNeverBrokeAgain 11 месяцев назад +48

      @@blessieshane1445 see daemon thought that he marries reyneera the house would stay strong which viserys and wanted and would honor reyneera as a person than a womb.
      This way he would keep both of them happy

  • @jaypandya7441
    @jaypandya7441 11 месяцев назад +6765

    Viserys trusting Otto Hightower over Daemon was the stupidest thing he ever did

    • @secondwindproductions5157
      @secondwindproductions5157 11 месяцев назад +175

      Both are not trustworthy.

    • @udhitharun4768
      @udhitharun4768 11 месяцев назад +313

      @@secondwindproductions5157 daemon maybe be cunning but he was loyal to his brother and rheanerya all he did was sake his family in fact he went on rally for viserys ascension

    • @secondwindproductions5157
      @secondwindproductions5157 11 месяцев назад +112

      @@udhitharun4768 he threw a party to celebrate the death of his baby nephew, he was happy he was still heir.

    • @KingSlayer_.
      @KingSlayer_. 11 месяцев назад

      Daemon is a manchild attention whore whose constantly causing trouble to get his brother just to notice him. Otto was slimy, but he always did what was best for his house and the realm over anything else. That's what you do for your house. You make sure their position is secure.

    • @Megatron_95
      @Megatron_95 11 месяцев назад +47

      ​@@udhitharun4768least Daemon was honest whenever he spoke to his brother

  • @DoubleBubble
    @DoubleBubble 11 месяцев назад +1989

    Tha sad part Daemon was right about returning of the glory to the house Targaryen(

    • @Emanuel-oo6mc
      @Emanuel-oo6mc 11 месяцев назад +63

      But Viserys was right about him only wanting the throne and not his daughter. Sadly they are both right.

    • @abbababba2886
      @abbababba2886 11 месяцев назад +119

      Not really. House Targaryen was at its strongest during Viserys's reign. The realm was at peace, the economy was strong, and they had the larhest number of Dragons in history.
      What they needed was another Jaehaerys, to further develop infrastructure and amplify trade. But Viserys was not ambitious enough for that, and his successors were war hungry cretins who basically ruined Westeros and House Targaryen alongside it.

    • @thomasnason4516
      @thomasnason4516 11 месяцев назад +21

      ​@@Emanuel-oo6mche never wanted thw throne 😂

    • @AaronGuest
      @AaronGuest 11 месяцев назад +1

      No he wasn't

    • @ExecutorGCW
      @ExecutorGCW 11 месяцев назад +28

      ​@Emanuel-oo6mc No. That's a misconception. At most Daemon wanted to be Viserys' Hand, to aid and protect him.

  • @lolabee1825
    @lolabee1825 9 месяцев назад +941

    “YOUR NEICE”
    As if he didn’t marry her off to her cousin 😭

    • @SpongeWatches
      @SpongeWatches 7 месяцев назад +41

      Viserys’ first wife was also his cousin

    • @SpongeWatches
      @SpongeWatches 7 месяцев назад +40

      His grandparents were brother and sister

    • @danika9411
      @danika9411 6 месяцев назад +53

      ​@@SpongeWatches Their family tree is a circle😅

    • @nicksmithnutmilk
      @nicksmithnutmilk 5 месяцев назад +18

      ​@@SpongeWatcheshis parents are also siblings 😂😂 he's a pure Targaryen. Both his grandparents and parents were siblings

    • @SpongeWatches
      @SpongeWatches 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@nicksmithnutmilk yeah wtf is he complaining about 😂🤣 totally forgot

  • @morganW2012
    @morganW2012 11 месяцев назад +545

    It's not even about being a girl.... it's my DAUGHTER

    • @nitinjhavlogs8291
      @nitinjhavlogs8291 9 месяцев назад +10

      And he marry to his best friend and have 4 kids ,she is also a "girl "age
      When all accept jon and dany and jon ,why not dharmon and rhaenyra

    • @dlz190
      @dlz190 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@nitinjhavlogs8291u don’t think it’s a little creepy ? Would u let your daughter marry your brother ?

    • @torennn8571
      @torennn8571 9 месяцев назад

      WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TARGARYENS BRO CMON@@dlz190

    • @lavanyachandrasekaran8727
      @lavanyachandrasekaran8727 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@dlz190 I don't think it's creepy in their tradition.. according to me, yes it's creepy.. I'd never. Ew. Nope.
      But them.. hmm yeah, possibly a good match.

    • @styxrakash4639
      @styxrakash4639 4 месяца назад +2

      “They have my son” type energy

  • @melina_0455
    @melina_0455 9 месяцев назад +602

    Viserys' answer was not an immediate "no".
    "You're already wed."
    Daemon should have said:
    "Unconsummated! Easily set aside. Rhea would be even more grateful than I would. Annul the wedding. Let me wed Rhaenyra. I'll protect her as she climbs on the throne. The second Maegor they call me. They're all afraid of me. I'll ensure no one even dares to go against her."
    Instead. *rolled a critical failure in persuasion*

    • @nicksmithnutmilk
      @nicksmithnutmilk 5 месяцев назад +6

      Nah . They later got married anyways and the Hightowers still usurped Rhaenyra . And without the Dance Of Dragons , no Robert , Stannis , Renly , Mad King , Rhaegar , Daenerys , Jon . All of them came from Viserys II's bloodline

    • @melina_0455
      @melina_0455 5 месяцев назад +24

      @@nicksmithnutmilk Except that the Greens' master argument was the bastardy of the next next heir to the throne. I bet you if Rhaenyra had married Daemon then, her children would all have had blond hair.

    • @nicksmithnutmilk
      @nicksmithnutmilk 5 месяцев назад

      @@melina_0455 the Strong boys and Rhaenyra being a woman are just excuses . The Hightowers would have usurped Rhaenyra no matter what

    • @tete_compositora
      @tete_compositora Месяц назад +4

      ​@@nicksmithnutmilk except they are all rhaenyra and daemon descendents, cuz none of Aegon's heirs survived, not even a girl. The only Viserys II decentents are from Rhaenyra's line.

    • @nicksmithnutmilk
      @nicksmithnutmilk Месяц назад

      @@tete_compositora yes but if Aegon didn't kill Rhaenyra and Jace wouldn't have died little Vizzy probably wouldn't have met his wife or if he did his line would have been forgotten . The Dance was " needed "

  • @Harshitslaysss
    @Harshitslaysss 9 месяцев назад +172

    Fact that damon defeated the triarchy pretty much single handedly and he's letting viserys beat him show how much he loved him he could've easily fought back but he didn't

    • @higharchbishopofteatasting6217
      @higharchbishopofteatasting6217 7 месяцев назад +16

      That's the king, Daemons not fighting back no matter what.

    • @The_Bricklayer
      @The_Bricklayer 3 месяца назад +10

      What should he do? Beat up or kill the king? He would be imprisoned and killed in the next step.
      Deamon is surely stronger than Viserys, but Viserys is way more influent and powerful.

    • @hispanicyoutubeperson6100
      @hispanicyoutubeperson6100 7 дней назад

      @@The_Bricklayer😂

  • @bharathchowdary1761
    @bharathchowdary1761 Месяц назад +158

    If viserys accepted this proposal... Nothing would have happened

  • @Chasingdreams25
    @Chasingdreams25 3 месяца назад +21

    "It's my throne you lust for"
    yeah Viserys, the throne you got because your brother flew through the realm to collect votes for you against Rharnys claim (as Corlys did for his wife) and all Daemon wanted is a "thank you" in form of a small hand brooch and Viserys never gave him that even after he kicked Otto out, and lord Strong died, Viserys decided to bring Otto back rather than bring his brother. Viserys was kinda stupid ngl.

  • @memecity9849
    @memecity9849 10 месяцев назад +208

    "Who gives a fuck what some lord thinks?! You are the dragon. Your word is truth and law"

  • @loolaabillions
    @loolaabillions 7 месяцев назад +102

    I love Daemons “haghhh” when Visearys called him a plague 😂

  • @IamDakotaaaa
    @IamDakotaaaa 11 месяцев назад +335

    viserys blushed as he said "we were young men😏"

    • @pIayingwithmahwii
      @pIayingwithmahwii 11 месяцев назад +13

      LOL I’m pretty sure it’s just the filter on this video. It’s a bit over saturated

  • @coconoisette
    @coconoisette 9 месяцев назад +23

    Viserys: "You are a plague"
    Daemon: "Eheh"

  • @katiey9408
    @katiey9408 Месяц назад +94

    Viserys was indeed weak and a fool. He trusted the people who betrayed him in the end.

    • @selisafish
      @selisafish 25 дней назад

      How did they betray him? Viserys spoke before his death about giving the throne to Aegon. Of course, we the audience know he wasn’t talking about his son, but since Viserys only told his daughter about the prophecy (in secret, with no witnesses), nobody knew what he meant, and his wife believed he was referring to his son.
      It all started because of a misunderstanding, I believe, and the bad habit that the Targaryens had to choose similar names for their kids.

  • @tmwk__
    @tmwk__ 7 месяцев назад +12

    Patty Considine and Matt Smith kill it when they're on screen.

  • @mr.etoyou9857
    @mr.etoyou9857 11 месяцев назад +54

    GREAT ACTORS BRILLIANT PERFORMANCES

  • @FutureShawn0058
    @FutureShawn0058 10 месяцев назад +15

    Daemon is depicted completely differently in the books. He was absolutely ruthless.

  • @maestroclassico5801
    @maestroclassico5801 10 месяцев назад +64

    Two genius actors

  • @billvolk4236
    @billvolk4236 11 месяцев назад +434

    I like that they're setting up how Viserys did sometimes fool around on the Street of Silk. That may come up later

    • @wyattbequette3596
      @wyattbequette3596 11 месяцев назад +33

      They aren't. Viserys had no bastards, although there's a good couple that are rumored to be daemons little hellspawn running around. Nothing confirmed obviously, but enough reason to suspect

    • @blackpaint9093
      @blackpaint9093 11 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@wyattbequette3596aegon II too

    • @billvolk4236
      @billvolk4236 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@wyattbequette3596 As with many things related to the Dance, this is disputed

    • @quranwarren4865
      @quranwarren4865 11 месяцев назад +2

      It won’t

    • @billvolk4236
      @billvolk4236 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@quranwarren4865 Perkin the Flea would like to know your location

  • @deeznuttzzz4745
    @deeznuttzzz4745 4 месяца назад +12

    those insects that buzzed around the throne clouded Viserys's judgment about is brother. I was pleased to see his love for Daemon never diminished.

    • @selisafish
      @selisafish 25 дней назад +1

      Don’t you think Daemon would have become a tyrant had he been on the throne? He doesn’t sound like the sort of guy who is capable of compromises nor taking “no” for an answer… I don’t know… Power at a state level requires restrain, empathy, understanding of the balance of power and compromises; Daemon would rather burn anybody on his way. I think that’s what King Vyseris feared.

  • @arjunadityarastogi2118
    @arjunadityarastogi2118 3 месяца назад +27

    Imagine having Rhaaenyra as a daughter, Daemon as your brother and Otto as your best friend. Yeah Viserys could only die to be at peace.

  • @thefartmachine3017
    @thefartmachine3017 3 месяца назад +8

    Looking back on it deamon really did only want what’s best for the house

  • @rhondagifford6390
    @rhondagifford6390 3 месяца назад +5

    It wasn't just lust. They had a true bond. They were the only two who truly saw how stacked the high council was. Furthermore, the corrupt ones playing it. They saw all of each other but without judgment.
    If he had listened, he would have had a secure succession instead of the dance that comes.

  • @Rio000oo
    @Rio000oo 7 дней назад +3

    “Sent to destroy me” he’s the only who was concerned about keeping the line intact

  • @luechmillionz
    @luechmillionz 17 дней назад +2

    “You are no CONQUEROR” ..line was delivered so Perfect amped…

  • @will-i-amb.4213
    @will-i-amb.4213 11 месяцев назад +120

    Honestly, this would have changed everything if Vicerys had agreed.

  • @PlanetVenus23
    @PlanetVenus23 2 месяца назад +7

    I never understood how he saw right through Daemon but he never saw right through everyone around him

  • @deepmayekar140
    @deepmayekar140 2 месяца назад +4

    You're no conqueror....
    Give him the damn throne and see.

  • @E-1K
    @E-1K Месяц назад +16

    This is the way.

  • @ghostphaze8692
    @ghostphaze8692 9 месяцев назад +13

    I wish we woulda had more of healthy Viserys dude played the character GREAT

  • @dibyp670
    @dibyp670 10 месяцев назад +10

    Daemond and his daughter we're always his biggest thorns at his side, aside from Otto that is. They constantly took his kindmess for granted.

    • @glowhoo9226
      @glowhoo9226 6 месяцев назад

      If he had listened to daemon more, the dance might’ve been prevented. Daemon told him to get rid of Otto, and he didn’t listen. Daemon’s goals were for his family to be secure as the only power in king’s landing. A Targaryen king, queen, and hand. No outside influence.

  • @jackstone9569
    @jackstone9569 10 месяцев назад +16

    It's really a testament to Matt Smith's acting that he can make the fakest-looking fake kick ever seem totally genuine with his reaction to it.

  • @Johnson_2022
    @Johnson_2022 11 месяцев назад +63

    The irony being if he had done that he probably could have prevented the whole Dance of the Dragons that essentially turned the dynasty into a ticking time bomb.
    Out of all the people that surrounded Verisy the most loyal man to him was that which he trusted the least.

    • @ibrahimkalmati9379
      @ibrahimkalmati9379 10 месяцев назад +2

      deamon was literally to him about honor his girl in that vary moment.

    • @selisafish
      @selisafish 25 дней назад

      How could a marriage between them have prevented the civil war?
      The war is because of there is a dispute as to whom should succeed on the throne.
      Vyseris first promised his elder daughter would succeed him, which was a break from the patriachal tradition. ⚫️Some people accepted that change (would become The Black), but 🟢 many didn’t (would become The Green).
      Then, he got son.
      Those loyal to the tradition believe the boy is the legitimate heir, and they would follow the High Tower clan. Those who embrace the
      change consider the daughter as legitimate because she was chosen as heir first, before her little brother.
      King dies.
      The brother and sister both want the throne.
      The war starts…
      How could a marriage between D and R prevent the war then?

  • @08-alinmariamgeorge26
    @08-alinmariamgeorge26 Месяц назад +8

    If he had wed rhaneyra to damon, damon would be able to keep hightower in place

  • @homerdeleon
    @homerdeleon 10 месяцев назад +3

    *Daemon not afraid of shit is like “chill chill chill “ when the knife comes out

  • @manofbeard
    @manofbeard 11 месяцев назад +81

    Matt Smith makes a great villian.

    • @aminsharifpak
      @aminsharifpak 10 месяцев назад +8

      He isn't a villan. He is pragmatic Ruler.

    • @bhslfdhe
      @bhslfdhe 10 месяцев назад +4

      How do you think that daemon is a villain?

    • @nitinjhavlogs8291
      @nitinjhavlogs8291 9 месяцев назад +4

      He is never was the villain ,he is most proudest and badass character which make HOTD worth watching

    • @SlayerPDX
      @SlayerPDX 8 месяцев назад +1

      Hes not a villain

    • @joao.fenix1473
      @joao.fenix1473 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@aminsharifpakHow isn't the guy who cold bloody murder how own wife smashing her head with a stone not a villain?

  • @mad_ace
    @mad_ace 11 месяцев назад +4

    Casual chat between siblings

  • @Kim_in_Cali
    @Kim_in_Cali Месяц назад +3

    What an AMAZING scene between Paddy & Matt 🔥🔥🔥

  • @anisha__.
    @anisha__. 5 месяцев назад +11

    I understand viserys pov, he didn't think daemon really loved his daughter but his throne. Daemon was also his niece and he had a wife a at home. Like any father he wanted the best for her daughter a glorious husband, who would dote on his daughter.

    • @Male_Ficent
      @Male_Ficent День назад

      Then ended up marrying her to a gay man who couldn't even give her proper heirs?

  • @Daracarys
    @Daracarys Месяц назад +27

    Daemon was right if Viserys could have agreed to him. This would have saved Targaryen from civil war.

  • @Synaw97
    @Synaw97 11 месяцев назад +24

    What’s crazy is through all of this, Daemon still had love and respect for his brother…he just had his own goals and own ways

  • @fretty317
    @fretty317 10 месяцев назад +4

    Paddy considine was great in this role. Outstanding performance by him

  • @Alexander-tu3iv
    @Alexander-tu3iv 11 месяцев назад +347

    All these people going "Should have listened to Daemon" completely underestimate how dangerous of a man he is. He would have been a nightmare for Viserys amd a massive threat.

    • @kimberlyplatt2382
      @kimberlyplatt2382 11 месяцев назад +25

      They don’t know yet. Season two, will show them.

    • @wyattbequette3596
      @wyattbequette3596 11 месяцев назад +41

      @@mertoncu1043lol bro daemon was just as weak and pathetic as Viserys here. Bro can't get it up with people over the age of 18, consistently attacks people from behind and loses the only duel we see him participate in.
      Then, he effectively sits out the entire war and actively refuses to get involved in any dragon dances until the very end, where he LITERALLY DIES IN HIS FIRST EVER DRAGON FIGHT AGAINST A TEEN.
      Daemon, the "proud Valyrian", dies in his first ever dragon fight, his body never to be recovered for a proper burial. He lived (and died) like a biatch

    • @Yuno-rr5bw
      @Yuno-rr5bw 11 месяцев назад +56

      Bro, give Daemon the credit he deserved. He did not just lost to a TEEN. They both perished. Technically no one won in the Dragon fight. And he did not just fought a teen. HE FOUGHT THE LARGEST DRAGON (fcking original targaryen war dragon) and killed it with his dragon. If we're gonna count the length of survival of each during the fight, Caraxes managed to live longer before perishing to his wounds compared to his enemies.

    • @stc3145
      @stc3145 11 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@kimberlyplatt2382Yea, Aemond speficially is going to feel that

    • @dineshbalu6107
      @dineshbalu6107 11 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@wyattbequette3596I wonder, Can u get any more Delusional than this? Lmao🤦😂🤣.....

  • @ScottJarreau
    @ScottJarreau 3 месяца назад +3

    Excellent casting, excellent acting

  • @kimmie_kimm_kimm
    @kimmie_kimm_kimm 10 месяцев назад +6

    Oh Paddy, I will miss you in season 2 😢 I think I saw some fear in Daemon’s face. Something you don’t see ever.

  • @ericwang1988
    @ericwang1988 11 месяцев назад +11

    I agree with Daemon.

  • @stephanieahenekarley1386
    @stephanieahenekarley1386 Месяц назад +1

    If only he listen to Deamon I believe all this conflicts and war would be avoided 😢😢

  • @ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341
    @ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341 10 месяцев назад +11

    Daemon won the crown for viserys against Rhaenys, viserys doubted the wrong man.

    • @janeathome6643
      @janeathome6643 3 месяца назад

      Actually, it was a done deal. Jahaerys always wanted Viserys and made sure everyone knew it. If anything, Daemon was doing a favor for Jahaerys by making sure the Velaryons and Baratheons didn't get any rash ideas. Regardless, Viserys was winning that "vote" by a landslide.

    • @ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341
      @ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341 3 месяца назад +2

      @@janeathome6643 Daemon went to each lord to make sure they voted for Viserys because his claim was Weaker than Rhaenys' claim.
      He won because he was a male offspring and Daemon's support.

  • @patty_emily
    @patty_emily 2 месяца назад +7

    Im wondering if he would have wed her to Daemon, if that could have prevented to Dance of the Dragons

    • @selisafish
      @selisafish 25 дней назад

      That’s the tragedy of the story: a lot of “what if x or y didn’t happen?”… I wondered “what if he didn’t promise the throne to his daughter and waited a few more years?” There wouldn’t have been any infighting for the succession.

  • @istoppedcaring6209
    @istoppedcaring6209 11 месяцев назад +65

    this actually fits historically
    William the conqueror had (if i remember correctly) more than one wife, they had not accepted christianity all that long, babysteps
    however that changed within just a couple generations
    now if you have been monogamous for generations and know that breaking with that would cause your vassals to whisper and murmur, dragons can't guard you in your outhouse, in your bed, ....
    his reaction is completely valid, imagine your brother essentially taking your daughters virginity then offering to marry her which is crazy enough but to add insult to injury arguing that two wives are fine because they did that a couple generations back.
    nope,

    • @MrEyon93
      @MrEyon93 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, Daemon should know that it is a pretty big ask, and that Viserys is entirely within his right to go "fuck no"

    • @kp361
      @kp361 11 месяцев назад +14

      William the Conqueror didn't have multiple wives. He had one wife, Matilda. No English/British monarch ever practiced polygamy. By the time of the Norman invasion, England had been practicing Christianity for centuries - it wasn't new. And even pre-Christianity, they didn't have multiple wives. Sure, some monarchs have had mistresses, but never more than one wife at a time ffs. Not entirely sure where you are getting your 'facts' from but they're insanely inaccurate.

    • @fernandaescobar3721
      @fernandaescobar3721 11 месяцев назад +7

      All Viserys had to do was grant Daemon and Lady Rhea the annulment they both wanted. It was an unconsumated, forced marriage of two people who hated each other. The only thing Viserys had to do was sing a piece of paper but he was too under Ottos spell to see this.
      Historically annulments have being granted to monarchs like with Henry the VIII and Anne of Cleves (bc the marriage remained unconsumated) , and Eleonor of Aquitaine and her first husband (with whom she had two daughters, but they hated each other to death).

    • @joao.fenix1473
      @joao.fenix1473 8 месяцев назад +1

      Normans had been christian about a century at that point. Normans were not great in numbers and most of the population of Normandy was Latin French and Christian.

    • @janeathome6643
      @janeathome6643 3 месяца назад

      Not true. William the Conqueror was Norman vs. Anglo-Saxon, but they were all Christians and there was no polygamy. If anything, the Anglo-Saxons were closer to paganism. The Normans actually were the death knell for whatever paganism had managed to survive up to that point in the British Isles.

  • @brandonslade2134
    @brandonslade2134 Месяц назад +1

    He never wanted the throne. He loved his brother to the end.

  • @Alliecatastrophe
    @Alliecatastrophe 3 часа назад

    the way viserys lept at him and said "YOU FUCKING--", he was no longer a king then, but a father, a brother, ready to beat the shit out of daemon lmfao, i love how much love he has for his daughter, how much rage he has at someone who would hurt her

  • @amandagoldsbury8122
    @amandagoldsbury8122 10 месяцев назад +6

    I think if Daemon had told him he would PROTECT her and their family, it would have gone better. That's on Daemon.

  • @loganrushing2246
    @loganrushing2246 11 месяцев назад +19

    If season two ever comes out, people will finally get to see the real Daemon. He’s gonna be badass for sure but also we’re gonna get to see the despicable and self destructive creepy uncle side of him.

    • @SE-gs6gd
      @SE-gs6gd 7 месяцев назад

      It's coming!

    • @DM-Oz
      @DM-Oz 4 месяца назад +1

      I remember him being more creepy uncle before starts rather than after.

    • @janeathome6643
      @janeathome6643 3 месяца назад

      Um, he already murdered his wife in cold blood.

  • @RaynmanPlays
    @RaynmanPlays 13 дней назад

    Viserys: "You are no conqueror!"
    Daemon: "Challenge accepted."

  • @georgiann6412
    @georgiann6412 9 месяцев назад +8

    He should have given him his daughter, his brother loved him. Except for the " ick" of wedding his niece it was pretty common.

  • @jakydelgado2010
    @jakydelgado2010 Месяц назад +6

    I mean to be fair he did offer up his crown and why not

  • @elenilou1851
    @elenilou1851 11 месяцев назад +7

    Yet he was married and Rhaenyra deserved a Lord. If only Viserys would have given it a second thought or even had asked her!!!

    • @MorallyDubiousFrog
      @MorallyDubiousFrog 11 месяцев назад +4

      Viserys gave Rhaenyra the opportunity to pick any eligible bachelor in the Seven Kingdoms. She spent months dismissing them all because she didn’t want to get married at all. Then she has a big scandal with Daemon so Viserys marries her to Laenor to cover the scandal.

  • @britraebae2754
    @britraebae2754 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think viserys acting in this scene was phenomenal. We really seen the anger and frustration in this but also his love and familiarity with his brother. One of my favorite scenes for acting talent in the show

    • @janeathome6643
      @janeathome6643 3 месяца назад

      In case anyone had forgotten he was a dragon.

  • @bumbum9831
    @bumbum9831 4 месяца назад +1

    I forgot gow the Targaryen family tree is actually a family circle.

  • @zolarenard2246
    @zolarenard2246 Месяц назад +3

    The sad truth was, Daemon was honestly in love with Rhae. They got married anyway behind Viserys's back years later and turned out to be a powerful couple. Also, Daemon never wanted the throne. He just loved his brother and his niece.

  • @thalmoragent9344
    @thalmoragent9344 10 месяцев назад +8

    I dunno man, I feel Viserys should've disciplined his
    Also, Daemon having 2 wives wouldn't work as well as Aegon. Not only does the Faith look down upon that, but Jaehaerys' Doctrine of Exceptionalism really only covered incest.
    Now, even more than one wife IS allowed, one of them isn't Valyrian, so that kinda breaks the vow there. Can't have it both ways, they'd all have to be Valyrian.

  • @thetruebatman4632
    @thetruebatman4632 6 месяцев назад +2

    These two actors, holy hell. I went to finally start GOT, got a little confused on the MAX app, and started this show instead and I was 3 episodes deep before I realized my mistake; how the heck is anyone complaining about this show??? GRRM is literally looking over the shoulder of every episode and MY GOD is it apparent. Matt Smith and Paddy Considine are unbelievable on screen together. I wish I had waited til every season was on streaming lol this show has me stammering.

  • @batman5071
    @batman5071 8 месяцев назад +1

    Paddy Considine and Matt Smith everybody, amazing.

  • @shara1979
    @shara1979 Месяц назад +7

    Aegon & Aemond almost mirror them. Daemon (same letters as Aemond), would've been a better king- better fighter, more charismatic...... It's the same situation between brothers

    • @shara1979
      @shara1979 Месяц назад +2

      It seems to happen alot. That's why the Second Sons were formed, & they're fantastic warriors.
      They should change the law, so that 2nd son becomes king.

  • @kenobie2
    @kenobie2 10 месяцев назад +3

    People seem to forget that Daemon is not a good man. He is a psycho, with style, but still.

  • @kristenferrin8313
    @kristenferrin8313 6 месяцев назад +2

    Paddy Constantine is amazing

  • @yorllin1
    @yorllin1 2 месяца назад +1

    Si ya solo Daemon hubiera sido mano del rey, ese reino nunca se hubiera acabado

  • @chavonnelawson1989
    @chavonnelawson1989 11 месяцев назад +26

    Unpopular opinion but marrying her to daemon was not the answer. Daemon at this point in the show was completely out of line and should not be rewarded for his poor behavior because honestly all he did was hurt his niece. She honestly had other options she could have married into Dorne and bought them back into the fold, she could have sucked it up and married a Lannister she needed an army to back her claim

  • @knightsfb32
    @knightsfb32 2 месяца назад +9

    Daemon could have said his first marriage was not consummated and that he never wanted her. Probably a better route to go then ask the king for 2 wives lol

  • @amarnadhnaraharisetti5077
    @amarnadhnaraharisetti5077 10 месяцев назад +1

    He is just like Steve in Stranger Things at first some sort of hatred but later damn bad ass most loved character.

  • @janinekelly93
    @janinekelly93 5 дней назад

    Paranoia , alllll about his throne , me me me !!!😂

  • @Piotr12396
    @Piotr12396 11 месяцев назад +115

    Should have wed her to him

    • @shunakiyama6275
      @shunakiyama6275 11 месяцев назад +7

      She's his niece

    • @halo_girl_2434
      @halo_girl_2434 11 месяцев назад +34

      @@shunakiyama6275 They’re Targaryens, they like to keep things in the family if you catch my drift 😂

    • @XRyanK
      @XRyanK 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@shunakiyama6275Do you even know who the Targaryeans are?
      If they had the Internet in westeros... Thier search history would pretty much be 80% step sis/step bro porn

    • @Piotr12396
      @Piotr12396 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@shunakiyama6275 it doesn't matter

    • @Mrprince4245
      @Mrprince4245 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@shunakiyama6275well Targaryens are know for it

  • @oogabooga4191
    @oogabooga4191 11 месяцев назад +7

    Matt smiths range is insane. Love him

  • @stevencorey143
    @stevencorey143 10 месяцев назад +4

    Generally it's Daemon that goes with emotion over logic at least to appearances.
    Yet in this instance it was Viserys that was letting his emotion overule his logical thought process.
    If it wasnt his daughter or his brother the dude wouldn't have blinked an eye at it.
    Daemon being able to wed Rhaenyra back then would have prevented most of the dance of dragons due to no questions of legitimacy..
    there would still have been rebellions just cause Otto and company is bunch of c**ts but not anywhere near as deadly or looked down upon

  • @lallianzama3549
    @lallianzama3549 4 месяца назад +1

    I mean this will be a big solution noone would dare challannge their succession to the throne, a pureblood dragon rider duo

  • @annaelisavettavonnedozza9607
    @annaelisavettavonnedozza9607 3 месяца назад +1

    Paddy Considine made an AWESOME Viserys

  • @BTSARMY-gw9pe
    @BTSARMY-gw9pe Месяц назад +4

    The downfall started from viserys period!

  • @taetannim3581
    @taetannim3581 11 месяцев назад +48

    This would have solved all this dude's problems and he could have died without starting a war.

    • @glowhoo9226
      @glowhoo9226 6 месяцев назад

      A war that began the downfall of the Targaryens at that. No dragons led to Aegon trying to hatch them, leading to the fire at summerhall.

  • @janeathome6643
    @janeathome6643 3 месяца назад

    All of Paddy and Matt's scenes together are fire!!!

  • @dhebora831
    @dhebora831 6 месяцев назад +1

    I TOTALY AGREE WITH KINGS WORDS.

  • @lunahyacinth6335
    @lunahyacinth6335 10 месяцев назад +3

    Wedding her to Daemon would have made the most sense. As king he could annul Daemon’s marriage to Royce, especially since Royce wanted none of Daemon to begin with. The kings own hand suggested betrothing her to her own half brother of 2 so it’s not as if anyone saw it as being out of line.

  • @aroccoification
    @aroccoification Месяц назад +20

    So upset daemon ended up being abusive to Rharnyra...
    The better not bring that back in season 2

    • @theodenhorselord9766
      @theodenhorselord9766 Месяц назад +4

      Dude killed his first wife. He's showing improvement lol

    • @aroccoification
      @aroccoification Месяц назад +3

      @@theodenhorselord9766 dude had a wonderful and compassionate relationship with his second wife. He grew a lot as a character in the 10+ year time skip so idk why they're having him regress

  • @tanyawilliams1887
    @tanyawilliams1887 Месяц назад +1

    Viserys was the Ned Stark of his time...died too soon!

  • @meghanbrooks3990
    @meghanbrooks3990 10 месяцев назад

    The way Matt sounds very English accent David Tennant-ish at the end there.

  • @aChewyGummyBear
    @aChewyGummyBear 9 месяцев назад +3

    Wtf is wrong with Daemon’s chest at the beginning of this scene😂

  • @kimberlyplatt2382
    @kimberlyplatt2382 11 месяцев назад +104

    SPoilers Daemon does marry her. Only to choke her out, cheat and treat her like shit. Viserys knew his brother better than most people will ever understand.

    • @NortonjawX
      @NortonjawX 11 месяцев назад +49

      The choking part was HBO’s invention, didnt actually happen in the books, as for the infedility, yeah true enough

    • @Piotr12396
      @Piotr12396 11 месяцев назад +56

      He died for her
      He fought for her
      He stayed in Westeros for her
      Never treated her like shit , that cheating part was never confirmed
      , Choking was a bad writing just like rhaenys unnecessary entrance in ep 9

    • @sergioblanco6321
      @sergioblanco6321 11 месяцев назад +7

      ​@dracarys_1234 it kinda was. Hence why he choose suicide

    • @kimberlyplatt2382
      @kimberlyplatt2382 11 месяцев назад +39

      @@Piotr12396 he fought to hold on to power, not for her. He died in battle looking for his opponent. Allowing Aemond to get on his dragon. Even after threatening him. Stupid.
      Left his wife alone. When she needed him the most. Daemon loves Daemon.

    • @Piotr12396
      @Piotr12396 11 месяцев назад +34

      @@kimberlyplatt2382 he literally left everything for 10 years, even he never came back willingly he wanted to leave Westeros , only Rhaenyra insisted him to stay ,
      He died fighting her war , the war wasn't daemon 's , it was Rhaenyra 's

  • @Son_of_Aragorn
    @Son_of_Aragorn 4 месяца назад +1

    They really outdid themselves with this show. Who knew HBO would come back this strong after how GOT ended. A+++++...can't wait for S2!

  • @Feesha_Highness
    @Feesha_Highness 6 дней назад

    “You are a plague”😂😂😂😂😂
    The irony of them ending up together anyone. Which could hav avoided the war beginning at this time in season 2

  • @alejandronunez5110
    @alejandronunez5110 11 месяцев назад +59

    "She's just a girl" she's the same age of your wife Mf

    • @zededs23
      @zededs23 10 месяцев назад +8

      No she isn't alicent is supposed to be 10 years older

    • @fookinaye8277
      @fookinaye8277 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@zededs23well obviously that's not the case in the show that you are watching clips of...

    • @zededs23
      @zededs23 9 месяцев назад +2

      @fookinaye8277 another person who hasn't read the books but thinks he knows what he is talking about.......

    • @alejandronunez5110
      @alejandronunez5110 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@zededs23 ahh forgive us mister high and mighty, you do know that the series is but an interpretation of the book,said by George and show runners themselves what about you inform yourself before trying to act smart.

    • @zededs23
      @zededs23 9 месяцев назад

      @alejandronunez5110 what are u on about? I guess you're a bit slow. Whatever you want to make yourself feel better doesn't change the fact that alicent is supposed to be 10 years older than rhaenyra, whether the show chooses to show that or not. Are elves now black in Tolkiens universe because amazon now decides to make them so? No, they are not. Just because a show changes something doesn't now make it fact, especially not over the original source material.

  • @Justwizzyig
    @Justwizzyig 11 месяцев назад +9

    I mean her first experience was ser Christian cole so daemon was kinda right

  • @whatevs53665
    @whatevs53665 9 месяцев назад +2

    I keep trying to marry them in CK2 Rogue Prince start and Daemon keeps dying

  • @cfrasier1419
    @cfrasier1419 2 месяца назад +1

    That’s calling the kettle black.