“It’s the amp of necessity for a lot of people... I think they got them because they were affordable and they didn’t realize how great they sounded.” ... That is SO TRUE! On the money!
I have the original hotrod and the IV... The IV is definitely different... warmer and smoother sounding and a touch darker sounding. If you prefer bright, then you’d probably like the original hotrod better. The original is also clearer sounding. I play them both together. I prefer the IV
@@nsc217 It just would... Like a Ford Mustang made in 2019 versus in 2018, and so on. A more relatable example: early 90s Zildjian New Beat hi-hats differ in tonality (those are considerably dark in tone) than earlier and later years.
Saint Jabroni I gotcha... Well lucky for you they just came out in 2018... So probably still sound the same if you buy one now... If you buy one now also, it could have been in stock for over a yr... They stopped making them when I wanted to buy one brand new, straight from the factory
@@nsc217 Thanks for the response. I meant to say or should've said: "It just could", as my first response to you. Unfortunately I missed out on the DeVille deal I was eyeballing this morning, the whole reason I was in here asking questions. -____- I'm gonna get a vintage Yamaha amp instead most likely. Maybe some other time, Fender! (NOTE TO SELF: WHEN YOU SEE A DEAL, LOCK IT THE FUCK IN, ASAP!!!!!)
Rick, I've watched your Fender vids for years and have learned a great deal. I'm a little bit on the fence right now concerning which tube amp I want to solo gig with, and because of Tony Joe White's influence for years, I'm leaning toward the Hot Rod DeVille 212...and with a name like that, I'm pulled in like a whirlpool. Besides that, it sounds like the amp I'd like to have at the end of my guitar cord. I believe it's going to be the DeVille 212 because I can hear myself in it. Thank you for playing this vid in a manner in which I would actually play as opposed to showing off, because it's the amp, not the hot licks like so many vids have, that I'm interested in. Youv'e just sold an amp. Thank you!
I've made a poll at the Stratocaster owners group in Facebook for selecting between HRIV , Katana Artist and Mustang GT 200... One answer won... The Fender Hotrod have Soul... The others are nice but the HRIV got 200+ votes, the Katana 12 and the GT200 3...
if you're going to play blues the hot rod is fine, but if you're going to play more versatile rock the boss kat is better. The katana boss eats the pedals very well.
I play blues, hard rock, punk, and pretty much anything I want with the HRD ... it’s a pedal platform after all! You can also get different sounds by pairing it with various cabs ... I put a Warehouse ET65 in the amp and have a 1x12 with a Veteran 30; a 2x12 with a pair of Invaders; and a 4x12 with Veteran 30s and Invaders
Did you get the IV? I just picked up a used III in stellar shape. I really dig it. I have a 95. Blues Deluxe i have been running a Helix 4 Cable Method. I'm gonna use both and go stereo with my delays and Modulations!
Tochiro Mifune Completely different amps. The Princeton and Deluxe Reverb are a touch dryer sounding and brighter. I prefer the hot rod because it’s warmer sounding. Not vintage Fender sounding if that’s what you’re looking for
Ive had a Champion 100 for 3 years and I want an all tube amp. I want the new hot rod Deville IV because of the 212 but will it bee too loud for home use? I really like the tone of 212 vs 112. but I'm afraid 60watts vs 40 watts will be an overkill. keep in mind my neighbors are suuuuuper chill they dont mind noise but Im sure I can get a decent tone at decent volume when used at home. what do y'all think?
I have one. As long as you keep it below like 2.5 it’ll be fine. There is also a little thing you can buy that goes in the effects loop for volume. I have the deville 3 though... I love it but it keeps making a crackling sound. I think it’s just my tubes I’m not sure
I got a hot rod deluxe not really knowing to much about it...I know fender has a great name so you can't go wrong...I'm surprised how dirty and sloppy it can sound....I'm really digging it
K ... I am literally just a few hours from picking up my new Fender Deluxe IV. I came across this very cool, helpful & enjoyable video. But ... as a marketing guy ... I have to chuckle. The artists in photos and posters on the wall in the background include Jimmy Page (uh ... Marshalls most of the time), Peter Frampton (Marshalls) and Metallica (Mesa Boogies & Marshalls according to Google). Of course I won't change my Fender amp order as it is spot on for what I play. The Marshall single 12 was a pretty close second though. I play significantly more clean so the Fender wins. I just thought it was kind of funny. I know. Get a life. Right? ; )
Not arguing with that. The extra drive channel is pretty much worthless in my opinion And really the drive challenge itself has a bit to be desired .. Not to mention the rather cheap build that tends to break down often. Not just my experience. Ask any repair technician or for that matter watch every repair technician on RUclips and they'll tell you that is the amp they see the most. And it's not just the fact that there's so many of them sold and out there being used, It's the same thing over and over. Just really regretful things with the build causing the same issues to appear in nearly all the amps. Really wish they would have just made them in a hand wired kind of build versus the cheap boards and with the cheap components. Crappy traces, resistors and capacitors always need replaced, The soldering itself is lackluster and most of them. I mean it's not a terrible sounding amp for the base sound, But as you said they really could have built a little more adjustability/soul into the drive channels and maybe just eliminate the extra
Should have been played separately and with the same guitar on the same settings on the guitar so that you could tell what they actually sound like Generally though these are good guitar videos this could have been none a little better though
No master volume - if you’re playing below 4 then you’re not getting the full picture ... I use a volume plug and crank it to 6-7 edge of break up and use the plug to get the volume down for home/stage
I’ve got a 4/10 Deville. Blues that is. It’s goddam impossible to control. It goes from 0- Nuclear in one notch. I love the amp don’t get me wrong. I bought that JHS black box thing and that’s ok but it breaks up way too much if you want a loud(but not too loud) clean. I’m told a 12AT7 ? Anyone know about that.
Nice to see Chapman and the capt....wait
Lmao
Lol
"It just sounds, you know, just, has that really nice... sound." Quality review.
“It’s the amp of necessity for a lot of people... I think they got them because they were affordable and they didn’t realize how great they sounded.” ... That is SO TRUE! On the money!
I have the original hotrod and the IV... The IV is definitely different... warmer and smoother sounding and a touch darker sounding. If you prefer bright, then you’d probably like the original hotrod better. The original is also clearer sounding. I play them
both together. I prefer the IV
What year is the "IV" from that you speak of?
Saint Jabroni I got it last yr in 2019... I don’t know when it was made though... Why would that make a difference?
@@nsc217 It just would... Like a Ford Mustang made in 2019 versus in 2018, and so on. A more relatable example: early 90s Zildjian New Beat hi-hats differ in tonality (those are considerably dark in tone) than earlier and later years.
Saint Jabroni I gotcha... Well lucky for you they just came out in 2018... So probably still sound the same if you buy one now... If you buy one now also, it could have been in stock for over a yr... They stopped making them when I wanted to buy one brand new, straight from the factory
@@nsc217 Thanks for the response. I meant to say or should've said: "It just could", as my first response to you. Unfortunately I missed out on the DeVille deal I was eyeballing this morning, the whole reason I was in here asking questions. -____- I'm gonna get a vintage Yamaha amp instead most likely. Maybe some other time, Fender! (NOTE TO SELF: WHEN YOU SEE A DEAL, LOCK IT THE FUCK IN, ASAP!!!!!)
Rick, I've watched your Fender vids for years and have learned a great deal. I'm a little bit on the fence right now concerning which tube amp I want to solo gig with, and because of Tony Joe White's influence for years, I'm leaning toward the Hot Rod DeVille 212...and with a name like that, I'm pulled in like a whirlpool. Besides that, it sounds like the amp I'd like to have at the end of my guitar cord. I believe it's going to be the DeVille 212 because I can hear myself in it. Thank you for playing this vid in a manner in which I would actually play as opposed to showing off, because it's the amp, not the hot licks like so many vids have, that I'm interested in. Youv'e just sold an amp. Thank you!
I've made a poll at the Stratocaster owners group in Facebook for selecting between HRIV , Katana Artist and Mustang GT 200... One answer won... The Fender Hotrod have Soul... The others are nice but the HRIV got 200+ votes, the Katana 12 and the GT200 3...
if you're going to play blues the hot rod is fine, but if you're going to play more versatile rock the boss kat is better. The katana boss eats the pedals very well.
I play blues, hard rock, punk, and pretty much anything I want with the HRD ... it’s a pedal platform after all!
You can also get different sounds by pairing it with various cabs ... I put a Warehouse ET65 in the amp and have a 1x12 with a Veteran 30; a 2x12 with a pair of Invaders; and a 4x12 with Veteran 30s and Invaders
You both Sounded great thanks for the demo.
Is that Dave Grohl’s Dad in the Double Denim??
Paul that was the best playing I've heard from you!
And before anyone asks - no I can't do better!
Robbin Wolfe but can you do better?
I like the deville gain.
Great tone and nice Santana sounding riff on the fade out. Wonder how the Hot Rod Deluxe compares to my Super Champ X2 - is it too loud for home use?
You could try speaking into your mics. Very quiet vocals
My HRDeluxe gets delivered Tomorrow! 😃
Did you get the IV? I just picked up a used III in stellar shape. I really dig it. I have a 95. Blues Deluxe i have been running a Helix 4 Cable Method. I'm gonna use both and go stereo with my delays and Modulations!
Give me a Fender 6L6 clean, and a Friedman BE dirty channel, and I'm set.
Interesting. How does the clean channel on the HR Deluxe compares to a Princeton or a Deluxe Reverb?
Tochiro Mifune Completely different amps. The Princeton and Deluxe Reverb are a touch dryer sounding and brighter. I prefer the hot rod because it’s warmer sounding. Not vintage Fender sounding if that’s what you’re looking for
@@nsc217 ohhhhhhhh thats why Theyre called hot rods. Of course.
What are those microphones?!
Cascade Ribbon mic
hawg427 Thank you so much.
Ive had a Champion 100 for 3 years and I want an all tube amp. I want the new hot rod Deville IV because of the 212 but will it bee too loud for home use? I really like the tone of 212 vs 112. but I'm afraid 60watts vs 40 watts will be an overkill. keep in mind my neighbors are suuuuuper chill they dont mind noise but Im sure I can get a decent tone at decent volume when used at home. what do y'all think?
maybe get a volume pedal for the effects loop
im in the same situation as you haha
I have one. As long as you keep it below like 2.5 it’ll be fine. There is also a little thing you can buy that goes in the effects loop for volume. I have the deville 3 though... I love it but it keeps making a crackling sound. I think it’s just my tubes I’m not sure
I got a hot rod deluxe not really knowing to much about it...I know fender has a great name so you can't go wrong...I'm surprised how dirty and sloppy it can sound....I'm really digging it
K ... I am literally just a few hours from picking up my new Fender Deluxe IV. I came across this very cool, helpful & enjoyable video. But ... as a marketing guy ... I have to chuckle. The artists in photos and posters on the wall in the background include Jimmy Page (uh ... Marshalls most of the time), Peter Frampton (Marshalls) and Metallica (Mesa Boogies & Marshalls according to Google). Of course I won't change my Fender amp order as it is spot on for what I play. The Marshall single 12 was a pretty close second though. I play significantly more clean so the Fender wins. I just thought it was kind of funny. I know. Get a life. Right? ; )
Stephen Lennartz you look to serious to be made fun of on the internet haha.
How is it.
The 3rd channel on these IV are pretty much Marshall territory.
He says it's just a really nice sound at about the 9 minute mark. While sounding harsh as hell
that DeVille is overkill for anything less than a DIY woodstock!! such monsters!
Marty Mcfly likes CC Deviles amp
Hope it sounds better in that room
Back to the drawing board! They sound great until you try for high gain on the More Drive channel. It sounded like a bad solid state Drive channel.
Not arguing with that. The extra drive channel is pretty much worthless in my opinion And really the drive challenge itself has a bit to be desired
.. Not to mention the rather cheap build that tends to break down often. Not just my experience. Ask any repair technician or for that matter watch every repair technician on RUclips and they'll tell you that is the amp they see the most. And it's not just the fact that there's so many of them sold and out there being used, It's the same thing over and over. Just really regretful things with the build causing the same issues to appear in nearly all the amps. Really wish they would have just made them in a hand wired kind of build versus the cheap boards and with the cheap components. Crappy traces, resistors and capacitors always need replaced, The soldering itself is lackluster and most of them. I mean it's not a terrible sounding amp for the base sound, But as you said they really could have built a little more adjustability/soul into the drive channels and maybe just eliminate the extra
what are the main differences?
jeremiah valiente The Deville is 2 speakers and 60 watts. The hotrod is 1 speaker and 40 watts
Should have been played separately and with the same guitar on the same settings on the guitar so that you could tell what they actually sound like
Generally though these are good guitar videos this could have been none a little better though
Too loud for home use?
Deluxe is fine with a cushion in front of the amp
Power attenuator or pull the V2 positions valve and replace with a 12AT7, I suggest a Mullard.
You can get a master volume to plug into the effects loop for $25 off ebay
Just turn it down lol
No master volume - if you’re playing below 4 then you’re not getting the full picture ... I use a volume plug and crank it to 6-7 edge of break up and use the plug to get the volume down for home/stage
sounds good til you play a reissue deluxe reverb
And the winner is the Telecaster.
I’ve got a 4/10 Deville. Blues that is. It’s goddam impossible to control. It goes from 0- Nuclear in one notch. I love the amp don’t get me wrong. I bought that JHS black box thing and that’s ok but it breaks up way too much if you want a loud(but not too loud) clean. I’m told a 12AT7 ? Anyone know about that.
Weird sounding mics you guys used for this vid
Yeah strat i like better, but its doesnt let me chose the amp
What does that even mean lmfao
@@johnhennessey5 I wrote that long time ago now I don't understand neither)
Probably the worst popular amp ever made.
Will Ross Possible the Twin
@@srprice2383 lmao stupidest choice ever...that is an 80 pound very unpopular amp
SR Price But I don’t like the twin and I like these amps
Soundz fizzy
First!
Still sounds absolutely hideous on both channels. Glassy, spikey, harsh, rattly fuzziness.
Apparently you are the only person around who can't make it sound good...
Yep, yours ears are tunned to different music, this is a refined fender sound, blues and rock, sits so beautifully in a mix.
No, you hit the nail on the head. Fender had their sock puppets out for this, but there's no disguising that nails-on-a-chalkboard effect.