How To Ski Powder - Advanced Ski Lesson #6.6
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- Опубликовано: 23 янв 2013
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In this workshop we look at the basics of how to ski in powder. Get your technique right on piste and you'll find off-piste skiing much easier. We go into more depth with off piste skiing in the Expert series.
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Having slightly wider skis will certainly help especially when learning, in this video are used a ski about 88 under foot.
When this was filmed I was skiing on Stockli skis but since then I am skiing on Volki skis, and loving them!
Absolutely fantastic lessons. I had one lesson when I was beginning, and now two solid weeks of skiing later, I'm getting pretty confident on most terrain (and working up to terrain parks). These lessons are the reason and I've purchased the apps, more out of support for a great service than anything else.
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Nice video. A couple other pointers about skiing the pow:
* Keep your skis a little closer together. This increases their flotation in the deep stuff
* Don't lean forward as aggressively as you do on a groomer. You don't want to lean back either - weight should be distributed over the soles of your feet to slightly forward
* Avoid big evergreen trees. Tree wells can form under their low lying branches - if you fall into one it can be very dangerous
* Speed is your friend - you move slowly in powder, and getting out of it once you stall can be a nightmare
* Don't turn on your edges, Turning in powder is more about steadily shifting your weight over the soles of your feet. Violent turns can get stuck
These are good tips. I also find lifting the uphill ski helps initiate the turn in fresh snowfall, deep powder, or spring snow (note - I ski in the northeast US, lots of moisture in most of our snow).
Excelent!
My God!!! Back to the beginner videos I go.
We often find that it's worthwhile taking a step back, getting the basics strong and then you'll progress much faster. Especially if you feel like you've hit a bit of a wall with your skiing technique. A good strong stance and basic technique is so important. Get it perfected on piste and you'll find off-piste so much easier.
Thanks glad you enjoyed the films, this was in Serre Chevalier in the southern French alps where I live it is a superb ski area.Darren
When skiing loose snow I taught myself to ski, not on one edge like I do on packed snow , but spread my weight evenly over both soles.
Groomers, one edge of downhill ski. Powder, both soles of both feet.
I learned to do this by skiing powder whenever it was there. Always looking for the loose stuff. Find a slope that is not steep. Stand and jump up and down landing on both feet evenly. Then start moving down a gentle slope and maintain jumping with both feet evenly in a straight line. Slowly go from straight to making small side to side variations. Even if you think you are making barely any turn radius, looking back at your tracks you might find they are quite s shaped and not too different from other tracks. Progress to steeper slopes but maintain even pressure over the soles of both skis making your turns longer and more rounded accordingly.
After time you will instinctively change from one edge to both soles and back as you charge across changing conditions.
Modern skis are also a lot more forgiving than older straight skis and I find if I dont change from both soles to one edge completely when hitting packed stuff, the skis will turn nicely under me like they should anyway, if the snow is fresh and deepish. Ice will always be a one edge affair.
You're welcome thanks for the patience.
Just watched through pretty much the whole dang series... I'm brand new to skiing, have been on the slopes less than 7 days so far! I'm in the midst of becoming solid with completely parallel, linked turns, and watching through these vids gave me a bunch of little pointers and helpful tips to keep in mind. Thanks for the series, can't wait to see whats next!
Good luck with your skiing I'm sure you might find a small bit of powder, be confident and enjoy it hope it all helps.
This guy is a legend.
Darren, I don't know if you know this, but all your advanced skiing videos I've seen thus far are amazing! Thank you so much for making these videos! Keep up the good work!!
You're a great teacher. Your confidence makes everything look easier.
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This is the best series of Ski technique videos I've ever come across. Your technique is simply perfect and your teaching is excellent and clear. I'm off myself to Solden in March and I'll be using a lot of what I have seen, I hope anyway!
I'd really like to see your apps upgraded for iPhone 5 (and 5S) screen size and iOS 7. I notice at the moment that there only designed for the iPhone 4S and below.
Certainly don't try and sit its not as different as you may think, try and link some turns together you will start to feel what works trust you're feeling. One of the biggest misconceptions is that you must sit or lean back stand and balance on your feet.
Thanks very much hope they help, remember if you down load ski school app you can take the films up the mountain, enjoy your first time.
I save a Samsung, what can I do?
Thanks very much, make sure you subscribe and you will know when we update more films, thanks again.
Love these videos. Looking forward to the next installation.
Sweet, finally a powder lesson! Thank you! :)
It depends completely on the terrain there is off piste and off piste. Also snow conditions so it is a very tricky thing to answer. It really does depend on each skier and the conditions.
I hope to take my first ski trip soon. Thank you for these excellent films which will help with preparation.
Try to smoothly link your terns with a positive start but don't try and jump up and down,carving is not really something you want to focus on in powder, hope this helps.
Thank you very much hope the films helped!
Awesome videos! They really helped me a lot improving my technique and confidence! Really looking forward to the 7.x series.
Thanks for the great feedback Gert we're slowly rolling out the Expert (7.x) series for the coming winter. Our Ski School Expert App will be out ready for next winter too so stay tuned.
Thanks again for the tips, looking forward to this week, hope there is still some Pow left to give it a try. Regards Andy :-
Very nice instructions, very clear! But I was wondering what your position should be when skiing in deep powder, about as deep as my knees? Should I bent my legs more, almost like sitting?
hey, this may not be an "advanced" question, but I can ski all the runs at my local ski mountain.. and a double black diamond at that. But it doesn't seem that... hard per say, I can't do the stuff that you show, I just kinda do some "skidding turns" if that makes sense, sometimes I can make good straight parallel turns but most of the time one ski is dragging. What level am I at? should I get an instructor and go back to basics? The way to put it is, I can get down the mountain,.. just not well
Tried deep powder yesterday! Was pretty tough but so much fun
Great instruction very easy to follow. Wondered where the vids were filmed, looks like a fab place to progress.
very good!!
Thanks very much!!!! Useful!!
Love it
First of all I find your videos to be very helpful and would like to thank you for them. I've been skiing once before and pretty much got the hang of it, but at what point do you recommend I try off piste? I'm going skiing again Christmas 2013 and was just wondering if I should give it a go.
Excellent videos. Do you have a snowbaord counterpart?
Off to Park City in a week so may see you there!!
More Pow tips:
a tighter stance, use both legs and feet together like one large leg.
Less flexion in ankle, keep calf tight in back cuff of boot.
More active with larger joints(knee,hip)
Keep feet ahead of hips and hands in disciplined position for balance.
i really like your channel and i can not wait for #7.1 body position lesson?
Hey :) I would like to ask one question. While skiing powder, how should I put the pressure on the skis? I mean - should I "press" the tips, take "central" position or maybe lean a bit to the tails?
Hey, I have some problem in powder, I don't find a well way to stand on my skis. When i'm on a piste, I keep in mind to put weight in front but when i do the same off-pist the front of my skis often go to deep in snow and i fell. I tried to put the weight a little bit more on rear, it goes better but i have to force a lot more and it's hard for the legs so i'dont think it's good either. Hope you have some tips. (Sorry for my bad english, my native language is French)
when in powder do you make small jumps into each turn?
or are you carving?
What about body position, do you have to center your weight slightly further back compared to on the piste? Also are you looking to have your skis closer together if you don't have all mountain or off piste skis to help you float?
YEAH IT THE VIDEO CAME OUT!
you don't need special skis to ski powder I learned to ski snorkel snow on slalom skis back in the 60's I have skied powder over my head on the same. Wider skis do make it easier, but the one of the biggest things is don't try to turn until you have some speed you can't start a turn going as slowly as you can on a packed groomed run. Get your skis closer together so they act as a unit,. weight should be pretty much equal on both skis, don't sit back you'll burn your thighs out in a couple of turns. Try to stay centered over the ski with a little heel bias (this is for deep powder) for 5inches over a packed run stay center over your arch. There are vids on here from the Whistler and Big White ski schools look at them. Then go get a lesson. I am a PSIA Level III inst. which is like the CSIA Level 4 both the highest cert level. Make sure you get a level III PSIA or Level 4 CSIA don't take a powder lesson from anyone less qualified. Level II PSIA can teach the basics and beginning parallel. Level !s are for beginners
thanks
the only problem i got with powder is landing a jump beacuse the tips get stuck in the snow allot and i crash
Hey Darren, are you still intending to release an expert ski app?
And yes this is introductory level....so yes try a few inches of fresh on the front side before sending it into banzai double black with 4 feet of feathers.
even in motorcycle racing we used to get sideways at high speed ballanced and sliding both front and back wheels and slight leans to alter course but we never in our wildest dreams of useing skiing type movements as well as i now see had we knew your technique back then in the 1970's we would have gone faster with the arm and chest coordination as well .. skeatesy
How good of a skier do you think one must be in order to ski off-piste? Very good lessons by the way.
will there be more videos coming up?
when is 7.1 body position coming up
what skis do you use for powder?
Who makes the orange jacket in your videos?
My tip: In deep powder, you want to muscle your skis around the turn. Stay in your ski stance and legs tight.
Hi there, what goggles are you wearing please?
Absolutely excelent! May I ask what camera is used to film? Thanks.
Hi Finns Mind. It's a bit of a mix really. But we shot most of our films on the Sony EX3. Hope that helps.
Ah okay thank you very much. I hope to see more videos :D
We'll be shooting on the Sony FS700 this winter Finns Mind So expect some gratuitous slo-mo's in there as well.
I'm waiting eagerly :)
I always made the same mistake. I`m affraid that the front tip will fall under the snow and I`ll hit the nose into the snow.
I lean the body back :/
Good stuff. I'm trying to perfect my technique, and your videos help me refocus on what's important. Thanks!
i wish you had been around when i was skiing in the 1970's i like your attention to arms and chest we all knew about the head still and benz ze knez and buttocks positioning and we knew not to throw our weight around by over swinging but your arm position and chest slight movements are absolutely essentual we thought not to use the chest but you have show a small amount is neccessary .. skeatesy
What waist under foot are these skis ?
When are you gonna add #7.1 body position lesson?
Man those are some nice gloves. What are they? They look very secure and warm :)
They are made by POC.
But how can you keep control of your turns if you don't put pressure on your downhill ski? I tried that years ago, and as a result broke a brand new pair of K2s and now I never go off piste!
Virgin powder is easy to float atop of, but how do you ski on powder that's been tracked over as I encountered recently. i.e. the slope looks almost like a field of small moguls and it interferes with you smoothly turning? My skis were getting hung up as they pierced thru the mounds of snow?
There may be better tips out there, but if they are really chopped up powder from other skiers or wind, then I just convince myself I need a little faster so my skis can float more and cut through it. Give it a try next time. If it is moguls, then I traverse to the next powder area! :)
Hi MisterE103 check out our film on How to Ski Crud / Tracked Out Powder. How To Ski Crud / Tracked Powder - Advanced Ski Lesson #6.5 Hope it helps.
Be more aggressive.
What skis is Darren using?
When can we expect the next lesson?
Yes, I am waiting #7.1 body position.., please..
What if the powder is up to your knees?
First of all, then you're a lucky man. About the technique: Since the powder slows down all your movements, take more time for every turn. To avoid stopping on a too gentile slope, make your S-track tide and long. When the slope is steep and you want to control your speed, you will have to get yourself a bit out of the snow to make a nice short turn. To do this, give more pressure on both of your ski's when you start your turn and keep them close together. Good luck!
People say you need to have fatter and wider skis for powder, but over 30 years ago and before, a downhill ski was a downhill ski. I can ski perfectly on freshly groomed runs, but powder is a bitch! I'll find out when I go to Utah next month, because Alaska's Alyeska is difficult with powder, but easy with fresh groomed providing they aren't icy.
Thats like an inch of powder. You can't carve a deep edge in 6 feet of fresh pow.
should lean back while skiing powder?my friends always tell me to do so but i'm surely having less control then. can anybody help me?
Hi Gerwin He. Skiing powder is a very similar technique to skiing piste but with the added resistance of the deeper snow. You need a good strong central stance with your hands in front so you can drive through the snow and keep the momentum going. As Darren mentions in the film, start out on the ungroomed piste after a snowfall to get that feeling of resistance then progress onto a nice wide powder face clear of obstacles. Keep linking the turns in a rhythm and keep that momentum going. Enjoy the powder and stay safe.
Gerwin He Don't lean back. Adjust your feet so they're slightly more forward. If you body position is good, don't adjust it. Hope this helps.
+Gerwin This is almost nothing compared to real off-road powder, when the powder is deeper you have to lean back a little so that your skis are a little bit like this / into the snow, otherwise you won't get anywhere... Check some free ride videos of extreme skiers in slo-mo, you'll learn more from there than here.
+Gerwin He Don't lean back. Stay in the attack position and be smooth. Leaning back will only put you off balance and so when you inevitably get rocked, you are going to fall.
There always has to be something out of both worlds, you must lean back yet not too far. If you would ski as usual, leaning forward, you would get stuck. I said you have to lean back a little. I am not trying to be a hypocrite but if you skied on fresh powder you would know what I mean, or you just don't understand what am I trying to say. Peace.
hahaha look at the thumbnail for the next video. He's finally wearing a helmet
why body position lesson in the experts and not the beginners?
As a city skier, I knew this video would be torture, but watched it anyways.
Voltaic Cell what is a city skier?
Interesting interpretation - but like the Stacking video he misses the point he has a left hip drop in all his turns making it look like an inside lean or reverse angulation ... yes Im being picky ;-)
When I get into the powder, I find it harder to turn. When I do turn, my skis get stuck in the pow and I fall. Because of this, I've been avoiding powder but I feel like if I knew how to ski powder I would love it. Can you please help me?
+Jeffrey Kim Are you using the right skis? They need to be wider than carving skis...
Mark Uribe My skis are 86 mm at the waist (Volkl Mantra Jr.)
Jeffrey Kim Yup, they'd be wide enough... I'm no expert myself, but I wonder if you're over turning by rotating your shoulders? It's the most common mistake I see on the slopes. A great tip I was taught is to hold ONE ski pole out in front of you in both hands, hands shoulder width apart. If you now imagine a straight line drawn at 90 degrees across the slope, as you ski down, keep the pole in front of you parallel to the 90 degree line. This way your shoulders should always face squarely down hill. Might help. 😃
Jeffrey Kim I have those too, mine are great in powder
Keep the your center of gravity on the back of your skis so you can float.
No word about change of body possition and weight distribution? I mean in others you always say how important that is. Just watching other movies talking about this.
What mountain is this?
allie sotomayor lol I was wondering the same thing haha.
No, this video is how to ski firm snow with a flattering dusting of powder
When teaching someone to ski, on the internet or otherwise. You should really use a helmet, set a good example. its such important protection something that saved me countless of times when skiing off-piste!
That's not deep powder powder up to your knees is deep I need a vid on that
my boyfriend is always laughing at people who drag their poles, but no matter how hard i try i can't stop. i see you go ahead and drag yours, is it ok to do that?
What's with the subtitles?
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This channel / series is epic, _except_ for this video. There are literally no instructions for powder skiing in it! Couple tips for the complete beginner: Skis close together, even balance between them, inside ski shouldn't wander too far forward, and most of all, try bouncing up to the top, then down into the pow, then back to the top... once you get that feeling, start turning in the "up" cycle of your "dolphin like" bouncing. DONT lean back to try to get your tips up, just flow down into the snow and bounce and float back to the top. Also, pow will slow you down, so until you get steep, basically point it straight and don't stray too far from the fall line. Good luck!
And of course no helmet when riding powder, like the instructor!
All your videos are on perfect groomed runs and basically untouched powder. Bumps which are soft and rounded. These are not the conditions which most skiers encounter. film on actual cut up trails, nasty bumps and previously skied powder
do more ski less lesson
If you are talking about powder turns, why are you carving? Flat skis is the ideal way to ski powder. I am a visual learner as well as may others. Bad Image In my opinion because you are showing one technique and not the correct one.great skiing, but demo the task, smooth, flat skis.
helmets are for kids
And don't sit back!
You got it. A confident central stance will help you much more in the off-piste. A progressive pole swing can help with this too. Are you heading out powder hunting this winter? Cheers, Noddy.
@@skng We had our first powder dump last night here in Tahoe so, Yes, I'm going skiing today!
@@davidstepro7486 YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWW!!! Take it easy on the first day but enjoy the shift out it. Let us know how it goes. Noddy.
The devil is in the detail,every body can improve their skiing you probably have a few fundamental problems that can be easily helped, I'm sure some instruction will make a big difference to your skiing. Also three years is not very long!
your skis are far too wide and you should try and work are more consistent pole plants , otherwise you are not that bad a skier for a Brit....coming to you from Lake Louise Alberta Canada.....remember, practice makes perfect....cheerio laddy !!
it is Mr. legs too wide.........try skiing deep snow with your legs that wide apart you'll soon have a mouth full of snow....just saying
Are you really criticizing his skiing? His form is absolutely perfect, textbook. I'm sure he would absolutely ski rings around you.
Not very thorough and the skier never plants his pole while the narrator says to! Lot better vids than this one!
You ski like bad very bad this is not how you ski powder.
Also, while skiing anything hard, I can only take it slow and kinda make it up that way, if I hit ice or something, I can't even control where I go anymore. So it's risky, but I've been doing it for 3 years. I just don't know exactly where to go in terms of help or advice on what to work on. I'm in a weird situation. Completely self taught skier here.