What happen to the fantasy booking, where you did in the summer of ninety eight w c w versus w w e f and in that video where you made austin and hogan go at it, you said you was gonna do a nineteen ninety nine version, but I don't see it?
@@Will-eh6xe ....i mean, if dude really hit an "ice grenade" that would have been epic. Lol Some poor jobber losses their life unfortunately 🙄 Since its mortal kombat and all. 😅
Glacier is ,, before all, an amasing cosplay of subzero, but a really crapy version of the ice bringer. Glacier even gavec an MST to the WCW ... A Miller catitis, acute but not so cute with that!
I think Austin's 3 favs on the list were Ice Dagger, Otto von Ruthless and Fang McFrost 😅 Also Dean Malenko was the Iceman but so was NBA player George Gervin 😂
I don't understand what they were thinking with Shockmaster. Even if he didn't fall down and make a joke out of himself, he was literally wearing a glitter-covered storm trooper helmet. If WCW kept the character around with that helmet, they would have gotten sued by at least a couple companies (Lucasfilm and whatever toy company made the helmet)
Also there’s no way he could wrestle with the helmet on. Would he have worn a mask under it, or cut eye-holes in it? And did they think Fred Ottman was a main-eventer? The initial booking of giving him the win in a War Games main event would seem so, but he never showed main event potential outside of that.
@@fattiger6957 You know, that’s something I’ve never heard someone talk about before! What if he HADN’T tripped? I think you’re right. It still would’ve been a disaster, but a different kind.
@@MrLuciousp I think we actually got the best possible outcome. At least we have a legendarily hilarious moment. Had he not tripped, it would have been a completely forgettable push.
I think the whole "Yeti being a mummy" thing was a last-minute WCW thing. I heard they originally wanted El Gigante/Giant Gonzalez to be The Yeti (wearing a suit similar to what he wore in WWF which would at least make sense) but by the time Halloween Havoc was near, they couldn't secure him, so they wrapped Ron Reis in mummy attire. The plan was when they finally secured Giant Gonzalez, they would unwrap the bandages and reveal him. It all ended up for naught at the end as they never were able to get him, and The Yeti being a mummy was never explained. I don't know how accurate this is, though. The three giants at World War 3 were supposed to be Gonzalez as The Yeti, The Giant/Big Show and Reis as "Super Giant Ninja".
Even creepier than the Seven gimmick itself is the fact that there was already a camera man filming in the little boy's bedroom before he appeared outside the bedroom window.
Karrion Kross when he was initially called up to the main roster in 2021 lost to Jeff Hardy, while he was NXT Champion, and then he was repackaged with a goofy spartan outfit before he was cut.
Yeah. I didn't even necessarily have a problem with him losing to Jeff. I think you probably could have made a good storyling out of it. That is not what they did.
The most underrated part of the shock masters debut to me is that when Sting is announcing his name he gets slightly cut off by Booker t yelling "what!?" Its not even like a what of fear it's just more in confusion that they got THEE Shockmaster like we're all suppose to know who this is already.
You need to do funkasaurus, because for months we were promised that broadus clay would destroy everyone, I remember how confused I was when they said from planet funk when he debuted
As it pertains to the Fake Razor and Fake Diesel debuts, I often check out the War Stories episode on the Outsiders, and Kevin Nash had claimed, though Eric Bischoff denies it, that WCW was so scared the Nash and Scott Hall were planning a WWF return, that they offered the Outsiders an extra $400,000 a year to stay. So yeah, not only did the "return" of "Razor Ramon" and "Diesel" make the WWF (WWE today) look like petty idiots, but if you believe Big Kev, it also hastened WCW's downfall a little bit.
Fake Diesel and Razer Ramon was an absolute failure. This is Vince thinking he can take any two bodies and mirror real stars. At least the fake Diesel went on to become one of the greatest villains in WWE (Kane).
I remember they tried to kayfabe that whole Matt Sydal botch by having it explained that it was Michael Nakazawa (who at the time had a gimmick of a man who loved to oil himself up like he was Hakan from Street Fighter 4) oiling up the turnbuckle that Matt was gonna do the SSP off of.
Why do I get the feeling that due to lack of Glacier being featured on Reliving The War that WB had put together this video to slake that need to dump on the gimmick?
@@digdugdat2847 Considering you clarified that in your statement... my dude. He can take your words literally if he wants to. It's your prerogative to be clear or not.
I'm so glad you covered Bret in WCW and I think it was one of the biggest cases of mishandling of talent ever in any promotion and I also feel that the people with dollar signs in their eyes are still perpetuating this. Chad Gable springs to mind in the modern world. Side note: have you ever considered doing a video on wrestling merch? Like the controversial Al Snow figure etc?
@6:00 imagine after michael keaton left batman. warner bros out of spite replaced keaton with rodney dangerfield just to prove the point they owned the IP.
I know what you mean but I think Vince genuinely hoped the 'New' Razor and Diesel would get over and he could keep using the characters. He had done this with Doink before of course.
Bret Hart was the "travel agent" when he was in the WCW. When it was time for a wrestler to go on vacation, they'd put him in a match with the Hit Man and Hart would "injure" him.
The outfit for Faarooq was silly, yes...but the fact thst he put the beating on Ahmed Johnson, who at the time was being built up as a major star (maybe even with the WWF title planned for his future) showed he was a threat at least.
@@mrassassinscreedfan1 Still better outfits than Shockmaster or Yeti, even if it's still not great. Might have been an OK outfit for the time without the helmet.
I would actually say it would have worked several months earlier if he was brought in to feud with the Dungeon of Doom as it probably would have fit in perfectly. It definitely wasn't an 80s gimmick but an early 90s one.
If WCW was ran like the WWF, Glacier would have a chance. WCW had too much of a caste system where mid carders will stay mid carders for a long time unless something happens (Benoit for example). I imagine Glacier would have a spot similar to The Patriot in the WWF where he would fight top guys in the company but slowly go back down to mid card status.
Steven Regal’s “Manly Man” repackage Sting’s WWE debut Superstar Billy Graham’s last run in WWF (fans that didn’t know him before, thought he was a Hogan ripoff) Rock n Roll Express debut in WWF as NWA tag champs
Five ideas for Bret Hart off the top of my head: 1) Debuts on Nitro and slaps the Sharpshooter on Bischoff. 2) Debuts on Nitro but puts the Sharpshooter on Larry. 3) Debuts on Nitro with a scorching promo about the WWF and challenges the best WCW has to offer. 4) Debuts on Nitro cuts the promo, and one of WCW's top stars comes out to confront him, giving us, say, a Sting-Hart, DDP-Hart, Goldberg-Hart, or Savage-Hart main event. 5) If he has to be the referee of the match he was enlisted for, don't have him debut until Starrcade 1997, have it be a mystery that forces fans to buy the PPV to see his debut. And, in this case, it would be worth it, since he had momentum coming off the Screwjob.
You honestly are the greatest wrestling channel out there, your so knowledgeable on wrestling and you can tell how passionate you are for the Business!!!
I always chuckle when they say when Sting turned heel he didn't need to be heel or face he's Sting not like people cheered any less for the Stinger he will forever be the ICON
Thanks for a good one! For Part 2: Fantasio Saba Simba Ox Baker's 1980 WWF debut vs Frankie Williams Mantaur Mighty Joe Thunder These should do for starters.
As was Tensai/A-Train/Albert, I mean who the heck did WWE think they were foolin? Everyone knew who he was after the reveal, especially when the audience began the "Alllllllllberrrrt" chants every time he showed up. Lol
"Superfly" Sivi Afi at MSG in 1986. When Howard Finkel announces "From the Fiji Islands Superfly" the crowd goes crazy thinking it's Snuka then complete silence when he announces Afi
I remember when the undertaker had a secret stalker terrorizing him for weeks and it was Diamond Dallas Paige. It was terrible because it made zero sense
@Wrestling Bios....If I purchase full Patreon membership, will I get to listen to the various background music tracks? Specifically, Glacier and that Progressive Metal theme with the great guitar solo. If so, please let me know and I will immediately send money. Thanks. You channel is the best. Unlike some other channels that are full of douche chills. You know the one. It's another one from across the pond, but they love their voices too damn much. You're the best. Thanks for everything. Been a fan since the Wrestling Lists days.
@@Alreezywith me not liking Mercedes, seeing the two be paired up bothered me. And just Kamille being brought in as muscle and not as a solo force of destruction
@@z216ghost Couldn't have worded it better myself. I like Mercedes, but those two personalities just don't gel together. I can see their trying to be a Shawn Michaels/Diesel team, but alas here we are.
Word on the street is, WWF advertising "Diesel" and "Razor Ramone" got Nash and Hall more money. WCW was worried they were gonna go back, so they just paid them MORE. THANKS WWF! You really showed them!
The good thing about the fake Razor Ramon and Diesel is if you were to put them in a 90s wrestling video game, you probably wouldn't even be able to tell the difference.
Even if the Shockmaster's debut went off without any issues, I still have no idea what WCW was going for. Is he a stormtrooper? Can he shoot lightning at his opponents? Will he wrestle with the helmet on, or is he just WCW Tugboat? The whole concept was ridiculous 😅
I actually liked glacier i mean his debut took a long time, and he was basically a character from Mortal kombat 3, but i still enjoyed and loved the character for what he was.
Tna should've never hired Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff to begin with, and they should have been off doing their own thing instead of trying to competing with WWE and trying to become another WCW. Hogan and Bischoff were two key people behind the death of WCW, and it was probably inevitable that this was never gonna work out for TNA. I'm honestly surprised they haven't gone out of business at this point
Hogan and Bischoff were two key people in the revival, resurgence and popularity of WCW and pro wrestling itself in 96-98 with Hogan turning heel and the nWo. Without them WCW may have died much earlier and we may not even had an attitude era. It's understandable on why TNA thought they would of helped. There was also a lot more factors involved in WCW's death than just storylines and characters. I don't think they get as much credit as they deserve in how much they helped keep WCW alive and make wrestling cool and popular again even if it was for a short period of time. Hogan did that TWICE as well, first in the 80s, then in the late 90s, too many people hate on him when hes one of the main reasons were able to watch wrestling today regardless of his negatives.
@@GrimMeNaCe Agree they made WcW great in the early nWo era. Still, they did destroy TNA that's not even debatable. I was an avid TNA fan at the time, within a month of Hogan and Eric arriving I had stopped watching it altogether. The roster was decimated the story lines were trash, they brought that place down so quick...
Hi 👋 Great Work 👍 I was curious if you could do a video about Superstars who never wrestled each other. Sting vs Taker Sid vs Glenn Jacobs Giant vs Ron Reiss Goldberg vs Benoit Kane vs Kurgeon Just name a few ....
I normally do not correct people in videos but you got a major fact wrong at 23:32. Specifically being that yes there is a lot more choice, but there is only one that matters, and that is Wrestling Bios.
I did like that after Sydal's debut, there was a joke on Being The Elite about Michael Nakazawa having put baby oil on the turnbuckle before the match. I appreciate a company that can take things in stride and poke a bit of fun at themselves when stuff goes wrong.
I don't know about best debut, but Randy Savage was treated like the king of the universe in his WWF debut with getting the pick of managers. I can't think of anyone being talked about quite that well. Probably why Hogan did what he did for all those years. Being honest if you watch his early matches, even with folks lower down the card, it's hard to argue with them. He's up, down, and all around giving performances that would work today.
Heck, The Wrestling Classic was basically a showcase ppv for Savage that he honestly should have won. He was booked like a face even though he was a heel
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Reply to this comment and let me know some of your favourite bad debuts. I'll use your suggestions for the next video. Cheers!
What happen to the fantasy booking, where you did in the summer of ninety eight w c w versus w w e f and in that video where you made austin and hogan go at it, you said you was gonna do a nineteen ninety nine version, but I don't see it?
Fake Razor Ramon. It was a massive bummer to complete mark child me.
Didn't Tazz's WWF debut crash and burn? I know he beat Angle but wasn't there heat and he was pushed down the card.
Booker T injured stone, cold, Steve Austin and his WWE debut
"And the crowd goes mild" has to be one for part 2, or 3?
Jeff hardy dancing while Matt was getting beaten up will always be a highlight
eh
Gotta have those air humps
It's 100% reflex on his part to hear his music & just go for it. Which is why you should never play it while he's driving.
@@melasnexperience if you replace reflex with 'drugs' i would agree
@melasnexperience trust me that man is in no fit state to be driving regardless of what music is playing.
2:00 Glacier was a ripoff of an extremely _specific_ version of Sub-Zero too, he's specifially a ripoff of Unmasked Sub-Zero from Mortal Kombat 3
Que in Mortal Kombat!!!!!!!
@@Will-eh6xe😂
@@Will-eh6xe ....i mean, if dude really hit an "ice grenade" that would have been epic. Lol
Some poor jobber losses their life unfortunately 🙄
Since its mortal kombat and all. 😅
Bi-Han or Noob Saibot? These timelines are so confusing...
Glacier is ,, before all, an amasing cosplay of subzero, but a really crapy version of the ice bringer. Glacier even gavec an MST to the WCW ... A Miller catitis, acute but not so cute with that!
Glacier is what we would have gotten from Steve Austin in the WWF if he chose the name Chilly McFreeze instead of Stone Cold.
Fang Mcfrost lol.
Glacier predates “stone cold”…. He’s the true iceman
Shut up, hipsters.
I think Austin's 3 favs on the list were Ice Dagger, Otto von Ruthless and Fang McFrost 😅 Also Dean Malenko was the Iceman but so was NBA player George Gervin 😂
Nope
"he fell flat on his arse, he fell flat on his f*cking arse"
"This motherl**er"😂
😂
I don't understand what they were thinking with Shockmaster. Even if he didn't fall down and make a joke out of himself, he was literally wearing a glitter-covered storm trooper helmet. If WCW kept the character around with that helmet, they would have gotten sued by at least a couple companies (Lucasfilm and whatever toy company made the helmet)
Also there’s no way he could wrestle with the helmet on. Would he have worn a mask under it, or cut eye-holes in it? And did they think Fred Ottman was a main-eventer? The initial booking of giving him the win in a War Games main event would seem so, but he never showed main event potential outside of that.
@@fattiger6957 You know, that’s something I’ve never heard someone talk about before! What if he HADN’T tripped? I think you’re right. It still would’ve been a disaster, but a different kind.
@@MrLuciousp I think we actually got the best possible outcome. At least we have a legendarily hilarious moment. Had he not tripped, it would have been a completely forgettable push.
Exactly my thoughts. What were they goin 4. A Stormtrooper with denim jeans?
The helmet is covered in glitter, it's transformative, fair use fair use!
I think the whole "Yeti being a mummy" thing was a last-minute WCW thing. I heard they originally wanted El Gigante/Giant Gonzalez to be The Yeti (wearing a suit similar to what he wore in WWF which would at least make sense) but by the time Halloween Havoc was near, they couldn't secure him, so they wrapped Ron Reis in mummy attire. The plan was when they finally secured Giant Gonzalez, they would unwrap the bandages and reveal him. It all ended up for naught at the end as they never were able to get him, and The Yeti being a mummy was never explained. I don't know how accurate this is, though.
The three giants at World War 3 were supposed to be Gonzalez as The Yeti, The Giant/Big Show and Reis as "Super Giant Ninja".
Are we sure that Hulk didn't just want to get booty humped by a guy dressed head to toe in TP on worldwide television!
The YET! TAY!!!
U know I looked up what is a Yeti unlike WCW
The Yetay is taller ...than the giant!
They should've just named him the mummy lol
Never Forget Fake Razor's appearance at the 1997 Royal Rumble.
RIP to both men
Both?
Some might say Kane's brain died, but he's still with us.
@@OhBear-j8l Fake & Real Razor, Rick & Scott
Even creepier than the Seven gimmick itself is the fact that there was already a camera man filming in the little boy's bedroom before he appeared outside the bedroom window.
a gimmick very emprunted to Undertaker period darkness in 1997
Uncle Jack thought Charlie wanted to learn more about pro wrestling...
I just had two hernias removed and now you’re going to make me laugh. I don’t know whether to thank you or yell at you
Just had my gall bladder removed. I feel ya! 😂
I just got my butthole removed
Yelling can result poorly as well, stay calm and heal well
Not to be “that” commenter, but you have hernias repaired, not removed.
At least you ain't the renegade
I actually liked Glacier. But tgeb again l loved Mortal Kombat. I was also 10
He and Ernest Miller made a great tag team.
I did like glacier too
20:50 I’m a little disappointed we didn’t get a reprise of that “AND THE YET-TAY!” jam you did for the video about him a few years back.
Karrion Kross when he was initially called up to the main roster in 2021 lost to Jeff Hardy, while he was NXT Champion, and then he was repackaged with a goofy spartan outfit before he was cut.
Yeah. I didn't even necessarily have a problem with him losing to Jeff. I think you probably could have made a good storyling out of it. That is not what they did.
He hasn’t been the same since
They need to cut “Kevin” again.
I liked the Spartan outfit. It fits Kross.
"He fell flat on his f***ing arse"
-Davey boy smith
The most underrated part of the shock masters debut to me is that when Sting is announcing his name he gets slightly cut off by Booker t yelling "what!?" Its not even like a what of fear it's just more in confusion that they got THEE Shockmaster like we're all suppose to know who this is already.
Like he been getting belts in all the companies & goes back 2 the territory days😂
Nothing can beat THE SHOCK MASTER...
How Sid was able to keep in character while everyone else was losing it is amazing. RIP Sid
A piece of wood stopped The Shock master 😅
Sid: "I told you!" Davey Boy Smith: "He fell on his..."
@@hassamali8887 Davey " He fell flat on his Fookin arse " 🤣 🤣🤣
no, no, no, in fact, if you look at it with a stoïc aproach, the Shok Master never even debuted, he failed the first tease, that's all.
One of my favorite things about your videos is the soundtrack. I love the remixes and recreations!
We have Razor Ramon and Diesel at home.
WWE should sell a two pack of figures featuring the fakes
@@z216ghost😂😂😂😂😂
Hahahaha. This is the best comment
@@z216ghostsomeone out there must have made a hybrid of Diesel with Kane's head, surely? 😅
@@BOABModelsYou just brought me back to the days where I made custom action figures as a kid 😂😂
You need to do funkasaurus, because for months we were promised that broadus clay would destroy everyone, I remember how confused I was when they said from planet funk when he debuted
Dealing with my 2nd shoulder break I've been binging this channel. Keeping the spirits high
3:11 Fun fact: RVD was approached first for the role of Glacier.
As it pertains to the Fake Razor and Fake Diesel debuts, I often check out the War Stories episode on the Outsiders, and Kevin Nash had claimed, though Eric Bischoff denies it, that WCW was so scared the Nash and Scott Hall were planning a WWF return, that they offered the Outsiders an extra $400,000 a year to stay. So yeah, not only did the "return" of "Razor Ramon" and "Diesel" make the WWF (WWE today) look like petty idiots, but if you believe Big Kev, it also hastened WCW's downfall a little bit.
Fake Diesel and Razer Ramon was an absolute failure. This is Vince thinking he can take any two bodies and mirror real stars. At least the fake Diesel went on to become one of the greatest villains in WWE (Kane).
Just for the record My favorite part of Shockmasters debut is the big smiling cardboard cutout of Rick Flair in the background. Priceless!
14:44 Flair's bowl cut 😂😂😂😂😂
Can't even get the Beatle's Swinging Sixties edition. 😂
the beat at 4:55 made me expect the Mean Street Posse. I was ready to rap along and everything! Dammit, Ryan!
I had the exact same reaction lmao
The best part about the shockmaster debut was Sid selling like his life depended on it.
6:33 Scott and Hall lol.
Great video as always though.
You caught that as well, eh...Either Scott and Kev, or Hall and Nash...But, other than that, video was entertaining as usual.
When I heard the blood runs cold bit, I thought I had clicked on an earlier episode of Reliving the War by accident
the man they call "Glacier" 😂
I want to see Chilly Choade in the Mu’fugg Dojo
I remember they tried to kayfabe that whole Matt Sydal botch by having it explained that it was Michael Nakazawa (who at the time had a gimmick of a man who loved to oil himself up like he was Hakan from Street Fighter 4) oiling up the turnbuckle that Matt was gonna do the SSP off of.
You can see that his foot slips as he's about to jump though
Why do I get the feeling that due to lack of Glacier being featured on Reliving The War that WB had put together this video to slake that need to dump on the gimmick?
Glacier was all over RTW....loved the whole hating on Glacier bit he did during those videos. He even made a song about him
@@josephr5556 I'm talking recent episodes of RTW, my dude, keep up
@@digdugdat2847 Considering you clarified that in your statement... my dude. He can take your words literally if he wants to. It's your prerogative to be clear or not.
I'm so glad you covered Bret in WCW and I think it was one of the biggest cases of mishandling of talent ever in any promotion and I also feel that the people with dollar signs in their eyes are still perpetuating this. Chad Gable springs to mind in the modern world.
Side note: have you ever considered doing a video on wrestling merch? Like the controversial Al Snow figure etc?
Props to Sid for even attempting to save that disaster of a debut for Shockmaster. RIP Sid.
him staying in character was great helped save it somewhat anyway lol 🤣
@6:00 imagine after michael keaton left batman. warner bros out of spite replaced keaton with rodney dangerfield just to prove the point they owned the IP.
I know what you mean but I think Vince genuinely hoped the 'New' Razor and Diesel would get over and he could keep using the characters.
He had done this with Doink before of course.
More like jim belushi..lol..
“Even in Arkham Asylum, I get no respect!”
Veer Mahaan. He was coming for months, and when he arrived, it was a big dud.
That's what she said.
Bret Hart was the "travel agent" when he was in the WCW.
When it was time for a wrestler to go on vacation, they'd put him in a match with the Hit Man and Hart would "injure" him.
THE YETAY!!
Legend has it that Glacier will soon debut
Any second now
Veer is coming…. again.
DDP in the WWF as the stalker of Undertakers wife.
I've missed the weekly excitement of waiting for Glacier. A true hero of the War
Man I love this freaking channel!! I can always count on wrestling bios! Every video is something I'm going to definitely watch! Thanks again man!!
I really enjoyed parts of Warriors WcW intro promo. Would be cool to see it edited down to the 3-5 solid minutes though.
I mean Kerwin White has gotta be up there. And Ron Simmons as Farooq Asad in that lame blue 'armor'.
The outfit for Faarooq was silly, yes...but the fact thst he put the beating on Ahmed Johnson, who at the time was being built up as a major star (maybe even with the WWF title planned for his future) showed he was a threat at least.
It's mega man Farooq come on now 😆
@@mrassassinscreedfan1 Still better outfits than Shockmaster or Yeti, even if it's still not great. Might have been an OK outfit for the time without the helmet.
They should have put Isaac Yankem on this list as worst debuts
@@vciotoli2126
Yeah, Ron looked like he was trying out for American Gladiators. Absolutely embarrassing, glad it didn't last long.
6:30
"Scott And Hall pulled a fast one" 😂😂
the problem with glacier is it was a 1980s gimmick debuting in a nwo dominated wcw.
Glacier would have done slightly better in WCW pre nWo
No it was a current mid 90s gimmick lol, but Mortal Kombat very much belonged exclusively in Mortal Kombat and nowhere else.
I would actually say it would have worked several months earlier if he was brought in to feud with the Dungeon of Doom as it probably would have fit in perfectly. It definitely wasn't an 80s gimmick but an early 90s one.
If WCW was ran like the WWF, Glacier would have a chance.
WCW had too much of a caste system where mid carders will stay mid carders for a long time unless something happens (Benoit for example).
I imagine Glacier would have a spot similar to The Patriot in the WWF where he would fight top guys in the company but slowly go back down to mid card status.
On top of Elsa's Ice Castle.............. I spat my coffee out when you said that 😂😂
The Ye-tay is has to be one of the most inexplicable things to ever happen in wrestling.
Sin Cara’s debut was pretty rough if I recall.
Best wrestling related channel on YT by a mile ❤
To be fair, Bret had a two month non wrestling clause for leaving WWF so that's why he couldn't wrestle until January.
Great vid… Who’s Dustin Reynolds?
Steven Regal’s “Manly Man” repackage
Sting’s WWE debut
Superstar Billy Graham’s last run in WWF (fans that didn’t know him before, thought he was a Hogan ripoff)
Rock n Roll Express debut in WWF as NWA tag champs
Love the Final Fantasy reference ❤️
never thought about the giant having a phoenix down on him angle. i like it
Blood runs cold.
Frosty 🏀⚽️🏈🏐
Our world is about to change
Five ideas for Bret Hart off the top of my head:
1) Debuts on Nitro and slaps the Sharpshooter on Bischoff.
2) Debuts on Nitro but puts the Sharpshooter on Larry.
3) Debuts on Nitro with a scorching promo about the WWF and challenges the best WCW has to offer.
4) Debuts on Nitro cuts the promo, and one of WCW's top stars comes out to confront him, giving us, say, a Sting-Hart, DDP-Hart, Goldberg-Hart, or Savage-Hart main event.
5) If he has to be the referee of the match he was enlisted for, don't have him debut until Starrcade 1997, have it be a mystery that forces fans to buy the PPV to see his debut. And, in this case, it would be worth it, since he had momentum coming off the Screwjob.
You honestly are the greatest wrestling channel out there, your so knowledgeable on wrestling and you can tell how passionate you are for the Business!!!
I always chuckle when they say when Sting turned heel he didn't need to be heel or face he's Sting not like people cheered any less for the Stinger he will forever be the ICON
Curt Hennig debut in WCW is worthy to mention.
That's not diesel, that's petrol.
Thanks for a good one!
For Part 2:
Fantasio
Saba Simba
Ox Baker's 1980 WWF debut vs Frankie Williams
Mantaur
Mighty Joe Thunder
These should do for starters.
The Higher Power reveal, Isaac Yankem DDS, Hulk Hogan in TNA, Ric Flair in TNA, Mick Foley in TNA, Lord Tensai, Brodus Clay (Funkasaurus).
At least Brodus Clay was a little over for a time, but all the other ones were failures.
Hogan and Eric especially
As was Tensai/A-Train/Albert, I mean who the heck did WWE think they were foolin?
Everyone knew who he was after the reveal, especially when the audience began the "Alllllllllberrrrt" chants every time he showed up. Lol
@simplysteve68 Albert chant or shave your back LOL
Vince Russo coming to WCW was the beginning of the end for them. Sometimes I wonder if Vince McMahon sent him there to undo the company
The build up to Glacier was EXTREME! They even made him "Bo Jackson in Tecmo Bowl" levels of OP in WCW vs. NWO for the N64.
"Superfly" Sivi Afi at MSG in 1986. When Howard Finkel announces "From the Fiji Islands Superfly" the crowd goes crazy thinking it's Snuka then complete silence when he announces Afi
Love the content, WBios. Please consider Veer for episode 2. He suffered the same ailments Glacier did.
Blood Runs Cold was a better idea than it gets credit for.
What WCW did with Bret still gives me nightmares all these laters. How could you do that to the best there ever will be….
The Seven debut was absolute gold 😂
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I remember when the undertaker had a secret stalker terrorizing him for weeks and it was Diamond Dallas Paige. It was terrible because it made zero sense
@Wrestling Bios....If I purchase full Patreon membership, will I get to listen to the various background music tracks? Specifically, Glacier and that Progressive Metal theme with the great guitar solo. If so, please let me know and I will immediately send money. Thanks. You channel is the best. Unlike some other channels that are full of douche chills. You know the one. It's another one from across the pond, but they love their voices too damn much. You're the best. Thanks for everything. Been a fan since the Wrestling Lists days.
I have three in mind for part 2 of this video:
1. Pete Dunne's debut on his Smackdown as Butch.
2. Kamille's debut in AEW.
3. The Ding Dongs from WCW.
What was wrong with Kamille's debut?
@@Alreezywith me not liking Mercedes, seeing the two be paired up bothered me. And just Kamille being brought in as muscle and not as a solo force of destruction
I remember the Ding Dongs!
@@z216ghost Couldn't have worded it better myself. I like Mercedes, but those two personalities just don't gel together. I can see their trying to be a Shawn Michaels/Diesel team, but alas here we are.
“A big spooky jabroni” lmao
Hulk Hogan said in the wcw main event promo that's it's not ultimate warrior.
The Shockmaster
Word on the street is, WWF advertising "Diesel" and "Razor Ramone" got Nash and Hall more money. WCW was worried they were gonna go back, so they just paid them MORE. THANKS WWF! You really showed them!
The famous hogan dp angle with the Yett Tay and giant lol
"Sometimes you just need to keep your mouth shut" Thanks I needed to hear that after work today.😂
The good thing about the fake Razor Ramon and Diesel is if you were to put them in a 90s wrestling video game, you probably wouldn't even be able to tell the difference.
Who would’ve thought warrior would go into business for himself?
Using Mortal Kombat-esque background music for the Glacier segment was 👌🏻
Even if the Shockmaster's debut went off without any issues, I still have no idea what WCW was going for. Is he a stormtrooper? Can he shoot lightning at his opponents? Will he wrestle with the helmet on, or is he just WCW Tugboat? The whole concept was ridiculous 😅
The Matt Sydal segment having music from Power Move Pro Wrestling was unexpectedly hilarious
I actually liked glacier i mean his debut took a long time, and he was basically a character from Mortal kombat 3, but i still enjoyed and loved the character for what he was.
Tna should've never hired Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff to begin with, and they should have been off doing their own thing instead of trying to competing with WWE and trying to become another WCW. Hogan and Bischoff were two key people behind the death of WCW, and it was probably inevitable that this was never gonna work out for TNA. I'm honestly surprised they haven't gone out of business at this point
Thankfully Scott D'amore saved TNA and helped to rebuild their reputation.
@@tayojones9460Wait... TNA is still around? I'm too far removed at this point smh
@@donnelltaylor701dolph ziggler well he using the name of Nic nemeth over there
Hogan and Bischoff were two key people in the revival, resurgence and popularity of WCW and pro wrestling itself in 96-98 with Hogan turning heel and the nWo. Without them WCW may have died much earlier and we may not even had an attitude era. It's understandable on why TNA thought they would of helped. There was also a lot more factors involved in WCW's death than just storylines and characters. I don't think they get as much credit as they deserve in how much they helped keep WCW alive and make wrestling cool and popular again even if it was for a short period of time. Hogan did that TWICE as well, first in the 80s, then in the late 90s, too many people hate on him when hes one of the main reasons were able to watch wrestling today regardless of his negatives.
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Agree they made WcW great in the early nWo era. Still, they did destroy TNA that's not even debatable. I was an avid TNA fan at the time, within a month of Hogan and Eric arriving I had stopped watching it altogether. The roster was decimated the story lines were trash, they brought that place down so quick...
Glacier might have worked if it came along 2-3 years earlier.
What about kizarny?! His first match looked like he hurt himself flopping on his belly …the crowd turned on him instantly hahahaha
LMAO. That Genesis MK music for Glacier slayed me.
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I was curious if you could do a video about Superstars who never wrestled each other.
Sting vs Taker
Sid vs Glenn Jacobs
Giant vs Ron Reiss
Goldberg vs Benoit
Kane vs Kurgeon
Just name a few ....
Bret Hart debuts during starcade 97, He prevents the NWO from interferring in Hogan v Sting, Allowing Sting to win clean.
I normally do not correct people in videos but you got a major fact wrong at 23:32. Specifically being that yes there is a lot more choice, but there is only one that matters, and that is Wrestling Bios.
Now I know who the office kiss ass is
I did like that after Sydal's debut, there was a joke on Being The Elite about Michael Nakazawa having put baby oil on the turnbuckle before the match. I appreciate a company that can take things in stride and poke a bit of fun at themselves when stuff goes wrong.
The MK music during Glacier is pretty funny.
There's no question that Seven was an amazing athlete.
Nathan Jones, Heidenreich, Mordecai, Último Dragón (WWE debut) and Sean O'Haire come to mind.
The Emma/Emmalina thing was very weird.
You need to include a double dose of MMA duds in part 2: Tito Ortiz in TNA and Cain Velazquez in WWE.
Glacier and Karrion Kross the Vince version were both such a dumpster fire
I don't know about best debut, but Randy Savage was treated like the king of the universe in his WWF debut with getting the pick of managers. I can't think of anyone being talked about quite that well. Probably why Hogan did what he did for all those years. Being honest if you watch his early matches, even with folks lower down the card, it's hard to argue with them. He's up, down, and all around giving performances that would work today.
Heck, The Wrestling Classic was basically a showcase ppv for Savage that he honestly should have won. He was booked like a face even though he was a heel