David French made them - called a Shum Shum . Unfortunately that particular bait is no longer made and hard to find . But you can get some other Shum shums like it from Chaos Tackle .
Have you ever tried working gliders with a straight retrieve, twitching it a couple of times halfway through the cast then maybe working it harder close to the boat? I just got a Phantom Softail and it has a nice wobble with a lot of body roll on a straight retrieve. I've considered doing that instead of walking it all the way back on pressured water just because everyone else is working their gliders the normal way.
You never know , pressured fish May prefer that . On my experience however , the whole idea with a glide bait is giving the fish multiple opportunities to “T-Bone” your bait . That’s what makes them so deadly .
@@BlueRidgeMusky thanks for replying. I actually had my first ever "on purpose" musky bite last Friday on a 6" Hellhound. It wasn't very aggressive. Just lazily swam up to it and barely got the center of it in its mouth. It didn't get the hooks. I didn't swing on it because I was afraid I'd gouge its eye out.
They can be curious like that sometimes . We’ve had them nose the baits and probe at them trying to figure out what they are. What you want are those aggressive reaction strikes or really hot hungry fish. When they actually take it with intent to kill it , it’s on!
So, now I have the distinction of having lost three fish in an hour. All on gliders. The first one I never felt the hit and thought I was snagged. I was actively trying to get my lure loose for what felt like 10 seconds before it decided to move. It came unhooked. Then the same thing happened less than 20 minutes later on a smaller fish. Both hit on the pause. After that I started swinging for the fences every time I felt anything. I'd been told that they hammer gliders, and I never felt the bite or saw the line move so I didn't even swing on the first two. On the third I actually had it to the net. I did everything right during the fight, but the hooks caught on the net and it unhooked itself when it made a lunge. It was hard to get it netted in four inches of water by myself. Rookie mistakes, but hopefully it won't happen again.
Timothy Thompson swing for the fences anytime you feel anything at all. It will become instinct after more experience and you will get better hooksets , landing more fish
@@BlueRidgeMusky thanks for the reply! It could've been the evening of a lifetime on cave run, but I reckon everyone has growing pains. That first fish was big. It hit literally on the very first cast. Good news is my wife is out with a friend so I get to head back out there! If I didn't have the fever before I sure do now. I could've easily just beached the third fish, but I didn't want to damage it. It's hard to get them in the net by yourself when you're alone and the fish is in water shallow. A video about hooking, fighting (especially if you think you have a questionable hookset) and landing fish wouldn't be a bad idea.
@@BlueRidgeMusky thank you! If you ever head to cave run give me a heads up. I'd like to shake your hand and buy you a frosty beverage. It's the least I can do with all the education and entertainment you give away.
Slab'em Outdoors they are on their way. Unfortunately I can only get smaller quantities of these custom made baits (15-20 / month ) they take a long time to build and when I have new stock they will sell out in a day or two. Keep an eye on my Facebook / IG , I will announce as soon as new stock is in.
Okay, so dumb question number 237. The approach you're taking instead of doing a figure 8, how long do you do it before you give up on the cast and pull your glider out? I ask because this evening I had a couple of lazy followers and didn't see either fish until I pulled my glider out. Neither fish returned when I casted again. Both probably saw me since I was standing in the creek.
It depends on water clarity really . I’ve trained my eyes to watch an area of 4-8ft behind my bait , my clients bait , my co anglers bait etc . I pay a lot of attention when Baits are coming back to the boat . And if the water is clear and I’m fairly confident there is not a fish coming in , I may not figure 8 at all. However if the water clarity is poor , I’m going to figure 8 every cast. At the very least a L turn or circle .
@@BlueRidgeMusky water was probably a couple of feet visibility. I had the glider where I could see it, but never saw either fish until I pulled it out. Both followed after I pulled it the rest of the way in. With me standing in the water they had to have seen me. Not sure how I feel about having a big angry fish with treble hooks in its face thrashing around within five feet of my legs!🤣
NEW SUB HERE MAN LOOKING FOR ALL THE TIPS AND TRICKS I CAN GET I'M TYING TO FIND VIDEOS ON MUSKY FISHIN AS CLOSE TO MY AREA AS I CAN NEVER WENT MUSKY FISHIN BUT IM ALMOST READY I LIVE IN BECKLEY WV ILL BE FISHING ON THE NEW RIVER AROUND PRINCE WV ARE MUSKY PRETTY MUCH ALL IN THE NEW RIVER OR ONLY CERTAIN AREAS SORRY FOR THE LONG COMMENT BUT IM VERY INTERESTED
Thanks for the sub ! Yes in WV you can find musky almost anywhere on the New River , you want to target the deeper , slow moving pools . Also check out some of the lakes up there that hold Musky such as Stonewall Jackson .
Conventional wisdom, as you talk about in this video, is that in cold water you slow down your presentation. Fishing slow with large suckers is popular this time of year. The thing is, about 3 hours ago I watched a newly posted video of guys in Wisconsin catching muskie in a heavy snow storm while trolling crankbaits. I could give you a link but don't want to post a competitors channel to yours. Furthermore, in years past I too have caught muskie trolling crankbaits here in Minnesota during Nov and Dec, with water temps in the mid 40's to upper 30's right before freeze up, at speeds between 2 and 5 mph. THINK about that for a minute! Slow may not always be the answer, even in cold water. I do agree with your advise about glidebaits, though. Pauses with those baits do work and the more erratic you make the action, rather than a steady rhythm, gets better results. That was a pretty fish, your 47 inch here, nice and healthy and big. Congrats. Happy Thanksgiving.
Right on , I’ve never fished the north west or CN . I’m speaking to the experience I’ve gained fishing the rivers of the south east . And in this video I’m specifically speaking about gliders . Trolling isn’t really a thing here because the rivers are narrow , shallow and full of crazy structure . We cast for them mostly . And gliders work well year round , my best producing bait by far ! But as I said in the video , I like to slow down my gliders in the winter and they seem to produce strikes on long pauses . I never said you should only fish slow baits or that muskies won’t bite a crankbait trolling behind the boat . I’m specifically speaking to my experience fishing gliders in the cold months of VA . We catch 70-80% of our fish over the winter months using this technique .
I hope you know me well enough by now to know that I'm NOT trying to fight or argue. Ok? I'm just talking fishing with a fellow fisherman. Relax. lol It wasn't an attack. Sorry if you took it that way. Yeah, I can see where trolling would be difficult in the rivers you fish. Trolling wasn't my point. Speed was my point! Everyone thinks you have to go slow when the waters cold and that isn't always true. Just saying. And I never said that you said that you should only fish slow. I said, "conventional wisdom" says one should fish slow. So while you can't troll the rivers maybe you can think of a presentation where you move a lure at a fast speed. I love glidebaits too. I lost a close friend to cancer back in June this year. He's the guy that designed and built The Phantom Lure glidebait. The lure that the glidebaits you use are patterned after. He started that style of glidebait and was the first one to put a soft plastic tail on a glidebait. I'm not sure how many Phantom Lures I own but I figure it's around 80 or so. I even agreed with you about working glidebaits with an erratic action with lots of pauses. Again, sorry if you thought I was arguing or attacking. I don't attack people online or in person. I'm a peace loving guy. So please remember for the future that any comment I make, I'm just talking fishing with fellow fishermen. Again, that was a beautiful muskie you got.
Paulina , I’m only reiterating what I said in the episode so someone else doesn’t read your comment and think I’m preaching to slow down any and all baits over the winter . this RUclips thing isn’t a competition and I don’t have “competitors”. Post a link whenever you feel like it. The thing is those guys are across the continent and fishing a completely different type of water with completely different environmental variables , forage , associated predators etc. now , like a said in the episode , and as the video is titled - this was meant to be tips and tricks for fishing glide baits through the winter months of VA / WV .
Now here is where we can agree to disagree. lol lol A muskie is a muskie is a muskie and will respond to a properly presented lure if they're active. If they're not hitting a slow lure then they might hit a fast lure. If a muskie will hit a fast lure in cold water in the Midwest they'll hit a fast lure in cold water in the rivers of VA/WV too. That's all I'm saying. "Environmental variables, forage, associated predators, etc," will dictate the LOCATION of the muskie in a body of water and in that you are correct there is a vast difference between your rivers and the lakes and rivers of the Midwest and Canada. I couldn't agree more. Finally, I do understand that this video is about glidebaits. My comments were meant more in general terms and not specifically to glidebaits. Sorry if i didn't make that clear in my first comment. Happy Thanksgiving and I look forward to your next video. Have some pumpkin pie for me. I don't do Thanksgiving dinner anymore since my wife died years ago. No sense in going to all that bother when I'm alone. Paulina is just a name I use here on RUclips for privacy reasons. I'm a middle aged man. Just so you know. Look on the bright side, the more comments on your video the higher rank it gets on RUclips. lol lol
There's about 9 minutes of wasted time with fluff on a how-to vid ---Cut the fluff & add details that are pertinent- @6:16 you say it's "cold". Cold is subjective. What was the surface temp, specifically? Cold in WV or VA in Dec is different than Dec in upstate NY near Canada or WI. 9 minutes of fluff got a thumbs down. I'm not intrigued by watching vids of fish being caught-- just get to the point of the whole how-to suggestions in the middle
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Glad you like them!
Your channel is absolutely amazing everything you do is spot on I love it. Keep it up!
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Really great tips
Can you tell me who makes that perch glide bait you are using. That is a beautiful looking, musky catching glide.
David French made them - called a Shum Shum . Unfortunately that particular bait is no longer made and hard to find . But you can get some other Shum shums like it from Chaos Tackle .
@@BlueRidgeMusky Thank you. I was on the chaos site yesterday. I really like the profile of the one you are throwing.
Great video bud . Trolling motor ocd is my biggest downfall 😂😂
I’m always stressing about boat position too haha . “ It’s gota be perfect or you won’t catch fish” or at least that’s how it feels sometimes !
Have you ever tried working gliders with a straight retrieve, twitching it a couple of times halfway through the cast then maybe working it harder close to the boat? I just got a Phantom Softail and it has a nice wobble with a lot of body roll on a straight retrieve. I've considered doing that instead of walking it all the way back on pressured water just because everyone else is working their gliders the normal way.
You never know , pressured fish May prefer that . On my experience however , the whole idea with a glide bait is giving the fish multiple opportunities to “T-Bone” your bait . That’s what makes them so deadly .
@@BlueRidgeMusky thanks for replying. I actually had my first ever "on purpose" musky bite last Friday on a 6" Hellhound. It wasn't very aggressive. Just lazily swam up to it and barely got the center of it in its mouth. It didn't get the hooks. I didn't swing on it because I was afraid I'd gouge its eye out.
They can be curious like that sometimes . We’ve had them nose the baits and probe at them trying to figure out what they are. What you want are those aggressive reaction strikes or really hot hungry fish. When they actually take it with intent to kill it , it’s on!
So, now I have the distinction of having lost three fish in an hour. All on gliders. The first one I never felt the hit and thought I was snagged. I was actively trying to get my lure loose for what felt like 10 seconds before it decided to move. It came unhooked. Then the same thing happened less than 20 minutes later on a smaller fish. Both hit on the pause. After that I started swinging for the fences every time I felt anything. I'd been told that they hammer gliders, and I never felt the bite or saw the line move so I didn't even swing on the first two. On the third I actually had it to the net. I did everything right during the fight, but the hooks caught on the net and it unhooked itself when it made a lunge. It was hard to get it netted in four inches of water by myself. Rookie mistakes, but hopefully it won't happen again.
Timothy Thompson swing for the fences anytime you feel anything at all. It will become instinct after more experience and you will get better hooksets , landing more fish
@@BlueRidgeMusky thanks for the reply! It could've been the evening of a lifetime on cave run, but I reckon everyone has growing pains. That first fish was big. It hit literally on the very first cast. Good news is my wife is out with a friend so I get to head back out there! If I didn't have the fever before I sure do now.
I could've easily just beached the third fish, but I didn't want to damage it. It's hard to get them in the net by yourself when you're alone and the fish is in water shallow. A video about hooking, fighting (especially if you think you have a questionable hookset) and landing fish wouldn't be a bad idea.
I’ll get on that! Thanks and good luck on Cave Run!
@@BlueRidgeMusky thank you! If you ever head to cave run give me a heads up. I'd like to shake your hand and buy you a frosty beverage. It's the least I can do with all the education and entertainment you give away.
Need to get more gliders back in stock on the website!
Slab'em Outdoors they are on their way. Unfortunately I can only get smaller quantities of these custom made baits (15-20 / month ) they take a long time to build and when I have new stock they will sell out in a day or two. Keep an eye on my Facebook / IG , I will announce as soon as new stock is in.
Alright thanks buddy
Okay, so dumb question number 237. The approach you're taking instead of doing a figure 8, how long do you do it before you give up on the cast and pull your glider out? I ask because this evening I had a couple of lazy followers and didn't see either fish until I pulled my glider out. Neither fish returned when I casted again. Both probably saw me since I was standing in the creek.
It depends on water clarity really . I’ve trained my eyes to watch an area of 4-8ft behind my bait , my clients bait , my co anglers bait etc . I pay a lot of attention when Baits are coming back to the boat . And if the water is clear and I’m fairly confident there is not a fish coming in , I may not figure 8 at all. However if the water clarity is poor , I’m going to figure 8 every cast. At the very least a L turn or circle .
@@BlueRidgeMusky water was probably a couple of feet visibility. I had the glider where I could see it, but never saw either fish until I pulled it out. Both followed after I pulled it the rest of the way in. With me standing in the water they had to have seen me. Not sure how I feel about having a big angry fish with treble hooks in its face thrashing around within five feet of my legs!🤣
nice video bro
Thank you Garrett 🤙🏻
Fat shaming that beautiful fish.
Great content. I see a trip to Virginia in my future.
😂😂 come on down !
what a beautiful musky 47 inches long would love to catch one that size one day!
NEW SUB HERE MAN LOOKING FOR ALL THE TIPS AND TRICKS I CAN GET I'M TYING TO FIND VIDEOS ON MUSKY FISHIN AS CLOSE TO MY AREA AS I CAN NEVER WENT MUSKY FISHIN BUT IM ALMOST READY I LIVE IN BECKLEY WV ILL BE FISHING ON THE NEW RIVER AROUND PRINCE WV ARE MUSKY PRETTY MUCH ALL IN THE NEW RIVER OR ONLY CERTAIN AREAS SORRY FOR THE LONG COMMENT BUT IM VERY INTERESTED
Thanks for the sub ! Yes in WV you can find musky almost anywhere on the New River , you want to target the deeper , slow moving pools . Also check out some of the lakes up there that hold Musky such as Stonewall Jackson .
Conventional wisdom, as you talk about in this video, is that in cold water you slow down your presentation. Fishing slow with large suckers is popular this time of year.
The thing is, about 3 hours ago I watched a newly posted video of guys in Wisconsin catching muskie in a heavy snow storm while trolling crankbaits. I could give you a link but don't want to post a competitors channel to yours.
Furthermore, in years past I too have caught muskie trolling crankbaits here in Minnesota during Nov and Dec, with water temps in the mid 40's to upper 30's right before freeze up, at speeds between 2 and 5 mph. THINK about that for a minute! Slow may not always be the answer, even in cold water.
I do agree with your advise about glidebaits, though. Pauses with those baits do work and the more erratic you make the action, rather than a steady rhythm, gets better results.
That was a pretty fish, your 47 inch here, nice and healthy and big. Congrats. Happy Thanksgiving.
Muskies are a strange fish. You can never be certain what they'll do or why they do it, which is why we love them.
Right on , I’ve never fished the north west or CN . I’m speaking to the experience I’ve gained fishing the rivers of the south east . And in this video I’m specifically speaking about gliders . Trolling isn’t really a thing here because the rivers are narrow , shallow and full of crazy structure . We cast for them mostly . And gliders work well year round , my best producing bait by far ! But as I said in the video , I like to slow down my gliders in the winter and they seem to produce strikes on long pauses . I never said you should only fish slow baits or that muskies won’t bite a crankbait trolling behind the boat . I’m specifically speaking to my experience fishing gliders in the cold months of VA . We catch 70-80% of our fish over the winter months using this technique .
I hope you know me well enough by now to know that I'm NOT trying to fight or argue. Ok? I'm just talking fishing with a fellow fisherman. Relax. lol It wasn't an attack. Sorry if you took it that way.
Yeah, I can see where trolling would be difficult in the rivers you fish. Trolling wasn't my point. Speed was my point! Everyone thinks you have to go slow when the waters cold and that isn't always true. Just saying. And I never said that you said that you should only fish slow. I said, "conventional wisdom" says one should fish slow. So while you can't troll the rivers maybe you can think of a presentation where you move a lure at a fast speed.
I love glidebaits too. I lost a close friend to cancer back in June this year. He's the guy that designed and built The Phantom Lure glidebait. The lure that the glidebaits you use are patterned after. He started that style of glidebait and was the first one to put a soft plastic tail on a glidebait. I'm not sure how many Phantom Lures I own but I figure it's around 80 or so.
I even agreed with you about working glidebaits with an erratic action with lots of pauses.
Again, sorry if you thought I was arguing or attacking. I don't attack people online or in person. I'm a peace loving guy. So please remember for the future that any comment I make, I'm just talking fishing with fellow fishermen.
Again, that was a beautiful muskie you got.
Paulina , I’m only reiterating what I said in the episode so someone else doesn’t read your comment and think I’m preaching to slow down any and all baits over the winter . this RUclips thing isn’t a competition and I don’t have “competitors”. Post a link whenever you feel like it. The thing is those guys are across the continent and fishing a completely different type of water with completely different environmental variables , forage , associated predators etc. now , like a said in the episode , and as the video is titled - this was meant to be tips and tricks for fishing glide baits through the winter months of VA / WV .
Now here is where we can agree to disagree. lol lol
A muskie is a muskie is a muskie and will respond to a properly presented lure if they're active. If they're not hitting a slow lure then they might hit a fast lure. If a muskie will hit a fast lure in cold water in the Midwest they'll hit a fast lure in cold water in the rivers of VA/WV too. That's all I'm saying.
"Environmental variables, forage, associated predators, etc," will dictate the LOCATION of the muskie in a body of water and in that you are correct there is a vast difference between your rivers and the lakes and rivers of the Midwest and Canada. I couldn't agree more.
Finally, I do understand that this video is about glidebaits. My comments were meant more in general terms and not specifically to glidebaits. Sorry if i didn't make that clear in my first comment.
Happy Thanksgiving and I look forward to your next video. Have some pumpkin pie for me. I don't do Thanksgiving dinner anymore since my wife died years ago. No sense in going to all that bother when I'm alone.
Paulina is just a name I use here on RUclips for privacy reasons. I'm a middle aged man. Just so you know.
Look on the bright side, the more comments on your video the higher rank it gets on RUclips. lol lol
There's about 9 minutes of wasted time with fluff on a how-to vid ---Cut the fluff & add details that are pertinent- @6:16 you say it's "cold". Cold is subjective. What was the surface temp, specifically? Cold in WV or VA in Dec is different than Dec in upstate NY near Canada or WI.
9 minutes of fluff got a thumbs down.
I'm not intrigued by watching vids of fish being caught-- just get to the point of the whole how-to suggestions in the middle