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I find it so strange that tennants under that system are responsible for finding the next tennant before they can get their deposit back. It seems like such an unfair thing to ask a tennant for something that is the landlord's fault. I hope it all works out for you!
I asked my wife about this. The reason why she needs to find a next tenant is because the house owner invested the money into something else. For that reason she cannot give the money back, instead of there is a next tenant who basically is paying the money to Rachel. So it is not solving the problem, it is passing it on the next one. What I think the best thing to do is, just buying the house completely from the house owner and then remove the construction and sell it again. She will lose a lot of money, but less then what she is at risk of losing now.
@@Johanneslol11 I'm just wondering but, isn't the money you give to the landlord suppose to be for x amount of time? In that case can't one wait for the time to run out and then move out?
Isn't the owner liable for this since they are responsible for illegally expanding, thus the renter is no longer obligated? She should be able to sue for the money and move out. But that's a USA style of thinking. I don't know how corrupt the laws are in Korea.
@@namename-ph7bg it is for a time but if you do this type of renting they expect you ti be there for a longer time. Also you need to find the next tenant. There is a reason why this type of renting is getting less populair in Korea. There are huge risks involved.
@@mousers21 no because she knew it was illegal expended, so then it no longer counts..
Rachel, it's really a difficult situation you're going through,but I really wish you the strength to fight through. You're indeed a good person and I'm sure things will end up getting better for you✨ We all are emotionally supporting you🔥
You should contact a real estate attorney. The unit owner created the non conforming use and there should be recourse agonist the company. The fact that the owner is a company and not an individual is not a problem, because the company has an asset (the apartment) against which you can collect a judgment. The lawyer will be able to bring a ouch pressure to force the unit owner (company) to agree to some fair resolution. Finally, you could tear out the drywall and illegal construction, and then ask for an inspection from the building authority, to declare the property is conforming. You can then sue the owner for your costs to remove the nonconforming construction.
Good advice
it seems that if she did any big construction in the apartment she will lose X amount of her money ,that part of her lease contract,so if the owner are not willing to cooperate and make an exception she not be gettihng her full deposit money back
Illegal construction.. expansion.. should not be the tenants responsibility. I would do two things that would hopefully help. First I assume there is a buildings department we might want to reach out to them to find out if permits were filed and if the building is up to code. Next would be to get a lawyer.. demanded that the entity correct the situation or refund you your money.
If none of that is satisfactory maybe contact the media. This is a lot of money and I’m sure it’s a bit of a scam that you shouldn’t know way to be responsible for.
Your land lady was taking advantage of you since the beginning, there is no way she didn't know about the illegal construction thing and that she could keep the money if anything happened. I feel so angry and so sorry that this happened to you. Find a lawyer asap, best of luck!
She said the laws had changed and they weren't aware of it. I've been caught with fines because the law was changed, and we weren't made aware of it. It's always your fault for not knowing all the laws.
Have you already asked for legal advice since it's a contract-related problem? Maybe there's some way they could help you especially I think the lessor didn't inform you beforehand the signing of the contract about the illegal structure in that building.
Hi Rachel . I am wishing you good luck . Everything is going to be ok. Sometimes solving problems takes time, but they disappear one by one . Saying ❤️ from Illinois, USA
You need to find a lawyer and bring this to court and since you signed a contract, I’d review EVERYTHING in there and work it out with the lawyer.
Stay strong Rachel we are here for you❣️❤️
Wow, this is some bullshit. Can the new structure become retroactively legal in any way? Can you revert the closet back to a balcony again? I can understand this situation is stressing you out. Its fucked up. Stay strong Rachel.
That is incredibly complicated and convoluted! Obviously, none of this is your fault, but now you're left to deal with it, and I am so so sorry, Rachel!! But I'm sure it will all work out in time.💖💖💖
I'm curious, is it a possibility to reverse the illegal structure back to legal structure by tearing down the room back into a balcony? If it's possible would hiring people be too expensive and would the expense land on you or the "company"? And what is the Korean word for illegal structure to look out for?
The value of the apartment would drop, so she wouldn't get her $300k back. Though, it would mean she would get something back.
OMG 😳 woman, you have certainly been through some hard times, what a great time to come on board, but you really have my sincere condolences,if that's the right word..... I've joined your channel four times and haven't seen a happy recording yet 😭😭 but all very interesting 🤔 and certainly your bad experiences has certainly been valuable information, Korea was one of the countries on my short list of places to retire..... and I'm sure out of all that bad luck there has been some good things learnt from those miserable times, believe me Rachel we go through bad spells in our life.... and your right 👍 don't give up hope 👍👏👏👏☺️🙏
Fingers crossed, i believe that everything will end up well. You got the strength to go through this! Sending you love from Germany
Thank u for sharing ❤❤❤. I think things happen most the time to good people bec you are strong and can surpass. Glad u passed the hard time and thing resolved happily. I think most the time these landlords don't list that their places are illegal built.
I cannot imagine what you are going through. I hope everything turns out okay. I think you are a good person and do not want to see bad things happen to you.
Miss you Rachel 🥺
My background is in structural engineering. Did you know that realtors make 10X the amount that an engineer makes just by reselling an existing property multiple times? I could take a look at the building and see if it meets the NDS and IBC codes and write the legal documents proving it or upgrading it -- but I am only in Canada...
Wait, since it was in the renewing contract to get the insurance... if the insurance got rejected because of the illegal construction they made... wouldn't the renewing contract get canceled? Therefore, she should give you your money back without having to find a new tenant?
And that's why she should get a lawyer
Oh that's so terrible :( I know you will get through this anyway, and I and all of us are supporting you. One thing I feel very stronly is that you did nothing to 'deserve' this, it is not a replection on you it is only a chance to grow and share... which you are doing so thank you Rachel. Love always ❤️❤️❤️
Hi Rachel. I'm really sorry about the situation you're going through, I hope that everything will be solved and that the situation will get better.
Hi Rachel, I'm so sorry you are going though this! I can feel your pain and your frustration and can only hope that everything will be better and get solved in a way! 💜 I know you will update us with good news in the future ✨✨✨
Fingers crossed and positive thoughts
Rachel I hope your okay, I hope you can get through this stay strong and positive you will find away out just keep your head high we all here for you 😊💕
I hope Korea passes a law preventing jeonse system if they aren't able to qualify for the insurance or most list why they don't qualify for the insurance.I hope this gets worked out sooner and later for your peace of mind.
The rental system in South Korea seems really confusing. I'm sorry you are in this situation, good luck and hope you can find a way forward.
Hoping everything works out for you.
I am so sorry you are going through this. I know it is very hard to deal with. Thank you for sharing your experience with us so that we know in the future if we would like to live in Korea. Everything will work out and come together for you. Everything will be okay. I know it is hard not to stress with this situation but I am sure everything will work out. Please take care and know we are all supporting you.
wishing you the best of luck, everything will be ok don’t worry too much
Please be strong. The worst thing you can do is fall deeper into depression.
You can blame yourself for not being more careful but that doesn’t help the situation.
Got to keep moving forward no matter how hard. Losing a phuck ton of money stings horribly but use that pain. Make it propel you forward. And this video is basically a “don’t do what I did” warning you us which shows you are of good character (not that we didn’t know that already).
You might be stuck but I don’t think you will be stuck forever.
Please believe that. And no matter how hard some days might be, know that your subscribers are cheering for you. It might take time and it will hurt financially but you will get through this somehow.
I'm so sorry Rachel, this is a horrible situation. I hope that you can find some real answers to the problem, or at the very least I hope that you can find some sort of peace with it and try to live happily without thinking about it too much.
I just wish that I could do something to help.
Rachel, you need get someone's opinion on this...someone with experience maybe a lawyer. All the best girl❤
Fighting Rachel,
FIGHTING!!!! everything happens for a reason.
Even though you're going through a very difficult situation, you are still looking out for others. That alone is a testament to what an amazing person you are, don't let this situation or other ever change that. I really hope things get sorted in the best possible way and you get back to your natural state of amazingness. And hey! If you need to rant and let it all out, we'll listen, that at least we can do.
Just had to inquire, since I live under the American Judicial System! Just based on what you said, I see potential issues that could be raised based on the facts you mentioned, like the validity of the contract, based on the following issues (i.e notice, disclosure, assumption of risk, fraud, etc). However, if Korean property and contract law protects the landlord, where the renter, or buyer totally assumes the risk, regardless of these kinds of issues, than maybe there’s no recourse! Just interested, since I think like a lawyer! Take Care!
That's really a complicated situation. Hope the best that you'll get a good result.
Could you make the Closet room back into a balcony since you do own that apartment? Better to stay their than get another loan. Wishing you best Hermosa.
hi rachel i know how u feel right now i went through something similar but trust me your strong enough to face anything okhhhhhh i knw u can
That's really messed up i feel you i hope something good come out and you find a suitable solution and stay safe
Hi Rachel, thank you for informing us about the illegal structure, trap like this can be found anywere, it's so deceiving. I wish you lot of courage and strength for overcoming this problem, I just want to say that, nothing last. I don't know if this will be long but it will denifinetly one day be over so keep faith it's going to be ok.
And it's maybe silly question but can you or your landlord transform your closet into a balcony again to be able to get a new tenant ?
Don't worry it's gonna be okay. Stay positive
Everything will be okay 👍 ❤
You have a good case for a lawsuit. Sue the landlord for fraud. None of this is your fault.
Hi Rachel! I'm sorry that this has happened to you in spite of your carefulness. But don't give up until you have explored all possible solutions. For this, you need a good lawyer or legal advice. There are many ways of going out of a contract. One has to find the proper legal base. I'll pray for you in the meantime.
Sorry to hear about your issue faced.....Stay positive and try not think about it .....As long as you can still stay in this place then just stay as long as you can and concentrate on your life.
Try not to stress over it now and carry on your life. Money can still gain back
You may now consider that you are currently paying month rent for this place.
Calculate how many months or years for the amount that you have paid in relation to as a month rental apartment? Once you know how many months/years the money that you have paid for then just stay at least till then. With this, you do not consider losing your money, just that you has converted the money spend as month rental apartment cost.
Maybe then you would have found a way to tackle this situation. Law may changed then, or maybe the landlord got to his/her self concise and return some/full amount back to you when he/she gotten profit from their investment...
Just forget this for the time being and live your life happily and to the fullest. Take care and stay safe always.
🙏🙏🙏
Hope you get a tenant soon . Sending good luck and well wishes your way . Hope you get out of this situation soon 💜💙
In the US we would of sued the owner for fraud. Can you rent out your current apartment or turn it into a short term rental?
Oof, what an awful situation! My thoughts are 1) talk to a real estate lawyer about options (seems fraudulent of landlord to not tell you about illegal extension at purchase), and 2) what are the possibilities for removing the 'illegally extended' label . . . can you hire a contractor to refurbish the space so it is no longer 'illegal'?
This is heartbreaking to hear you are going through this. I hope you can talk to a real estate lawyer that can help you to recover your money.
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Hi Rachel, I hope you're feeling better. I feel so sorry about your situation. Can you get building inspectors to possibly make sure it's up to current codes and determine it's safe? If so, maybe they can deem it legal or receive a variant to overlook the illegal portion? I sincerely hope you find a viable solution, one that doesn't cost you everything. 300k is too much to lose. You're a very good and decent woman. Somehow someway you're going to make it work for you. Have a beautiful day and God bless you. 🙏🌹 Keep smiling, you're worth it. ❤️
Oh no!!! Rachel 😭 I hope you find a new tenant and it all works out. I believe it will 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Hello Rachel, first, thank you for making this video and thinking about us. Rachel, you are strong and you will be able to overcome this! I really hope you can find help to get your jeonse deposit back, wish you the best!!
Just waiting for you to be a main Character in a kdrama soon.
I hope everything works out in the end! I'm so sorry this happened to you :((
I hope that you make it through your predicament. One question I have is this. When laws change is there no such thing as a grandfather clause in the insurance? Many times in Canada this is an addition to our laws. I feel your pain. I kind of thought there was something going on in your previous videos. Good luck and love ya
Rachel, I don't know how ro help or what can be the solution to this problem you are into but I'm just praying for you and sending you lots of strength, good wishes and love. 🇮🇳 india
I'm so sorry this is happening to you Rachel, I don't get why you should be responsible for finding a new tenant! The current landlord/scumbag should be legally responsible for this mess! Keep us updated on what's happening, also take care of your health, stay positive!
I moved out of my house and bought a boat. That's when everything went wrong. Ha Ha. Although things looked bleak a lot of very good people helped me out beyond belief. The last 12 months have been the best ever. No matter how many times things went wrong it only takes one good thing too make everything better. Best of luck for now and in the future. Best wishes as always. 😁😁😁🍀👍
Since part of the problem is that the law changed perhaps you should contact the office of your local legislator who voted on that change. They might have a way to help those in this situation.
I love you Rachel Kim. I really hope you're doing great okay
Jeez. Never heard of a balcony being converted to a closet. Sounds like a very difficult, unfair stretch of time at that apartment with the upstairs neighbor, cost, contracts, COVID. Meditation, chicken and beer are called for.
Oh no, I hate this situation for you! This has to be so stressful for you and it is crazy how all of this has come to be. Sound like you need to get a lawyer involved.
That sounds like a tough situation, for sure. Good luck finding a resolution to it.
In the US you might well have grounds for a lawsuit, if the property owner knew (or should have known) that they had modified the property in a way which would make it uninsurable - especially if they knew that and then signed a contract which required insurance. But then again, I can't imagine a situation in which a US landlord would demand that their _dissatisfied tenants_ should be responsible for finding new occupants for their property.
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Chin up, something will come up and you will get thru this.
Love you 😘 Rachel ❤️💕
A good house here can cost maybe 120,000 or 180,000, you can pay more but you'd get the same if you look around, and there's a lot here - hell I wish I loved in a house, little garden, you know...
I'm sorry that this has happened to you and that you're only just finding out now, I'm here if you'd like to talk about anything or just rant some time 😢🌺
I hope showing your home online doesn't affect your safety!
I hope there is justice in Korea. Good luck Rachel!
Thanks for your video
Check do scheam giving you access to land when building is place ... if so SUE them for criminal activities including land register and this will breach also other tenants contract so prosecutor will need investigate other ppl in same building make multiple cases from this .
I don’t know how her building insurance permitted that situation because in general you’re building insurance only ensures approve structures so if a fire started in your apartment and burnt the whole building down they wouldn’t want to pay at all. I would think it would be criminal to lease an apartment in an unapproved structure that would be in adequately insured for fire and other hazards. She should give back the money so her insurance doesn’t drop her and go back and get proper approval
That sucks a lot. Landlady should really try to redo to its initial state, otherwise she is out of business except she scams you. But really...its not your fault at all. How long is her investment going to be locked before she can take money from wherever she is investing and pay it back. At least the law should have made an exception for those who signed a contract before the year the law was adopted they simply gave a lot of people an opportunity to scam. As they say lawyer up... And see where it goes. Thanks for the advice. There are so many pitfalls no life is enough to be safe and secure from everything. My life rn is just as depressing because idk what choices I should make and I can imagine headache you going through at least to some extent, hope this nightmare ends for you asap. If anything you learn a lot from this situation especially that law is not protecting common people at all and it sucks.
I feel so sorry to watch you giving us brave words and advice to be careful when you are so hurt by this situation. It is a very bad situation and it is so dumb that you have to go through this. When you said that you don't understand why this is happening to you, I understood that so much because that is how I constantly feel. I really really hope that you and your sister can solve this situation. I hope that you get most of your money bag and live in a new place with good insurance. Thank you for reminding me again to be very ver
I would suggest 3 things!
1) Contact a lawyer. Who knows, perhaps there's a law that you can use get your money back or perhaps you can find that the Landlord violated their end of the contract allowing you to get your money back.
2) Don't actually get out of your contract! You might actually be able to find someone, it may take a year or 16 months or whatever, but you might actually be able to find someone.
3) Contact your government representative(s). They might be able to suggest options for you or even be able to create new laws to help this from happening to someone else in the future.
I hope you can figure this out. Money issues are the worst thing ever. 😓😓
Good grief! I feel for you Rachel, as a tennant who's been renting for over 18 years, I've been stolen from also due to landlord/ agencies incompetence. However, I end up buying my own place with no problems. I wish I was rich enough to help you. I hope things get much better for you, maybe this year isn't too lucky for you.
Am watching this video bit late, not sure how it is there in Korea, but there is another option, he removes walls he placed on "original" structure, because as it looks he only added metal construction to it, so removing it would not be "impossible". This way it should be listed back as normal building (if he removes all added construction) Since it would go back to being balcony but yes, you would lose a room to store your stuff. I might be wrong but its an idea :)
Hi Rachel, thanks for your care, I hope you can find a solution, I am curious, if there is an option to build the balcony back to orginal form, ask your landlord, since you are living there, you can relocate your wardrobe and have instead an balcony, best of luck.
I’m so sorry this is actually something that can happen! Did you know the apartment was illegally extended before? Surely you can get Eli if you were a victim? Plus I don’t see why you have to find the next tenant if it’s their apartment that’s illegal? Can you get legal help?
Omg! The landlord screwed you over. Can you sue? Rachel, I hope things will work out in the end. My heart goes out to you. 😘💜
Wow that is a really difficult situation to be in. I really wish there was a way I could help you! Is it possible to keep the new contract and move into your new apartment then sub-let your current apartment for the duration its contact? Is that an option? You could make money from it until your landlady has to return your payment. I know how strong you are Rachel, you will find a way!
I think that is the insurance company fault. They should check if everything is alright with the apartment before signing off documents
I’m sure there is a legal precedent for this situation …. Maybe contact a lawyer and get their advice.
Oh, I understand your situation. In America people frequently add on whole sections to their house illegally. You can do it legally if you get the correct permits. But illegally they can force you to tear down the illegal portion of your house. However, you can appeal and sometimes have it approved by the state or county as long as it meets current standards.
Tenant needs to be free, to opt-out if any irregularity appears due to the act of owner.
Sadly not a good business practice.
Hope you will find solution. 👍🏻
Since it was in your housing contract that they need to have the insurance, doesn't it break the contract on the owner's side since they are not able to insure it? I'm wondering if you could take legal action???
I'm really sorry you are in this situation. Is it possible that the illegal closet is removed? So the apartment will go back to the original structure and then the bank will have no problem accepting your contract?
I almost thought of asking if you're able to sublet this place, as a stop-gap measure.
If legal to do so, and the landlord would have to agree. So can move into new place, and don't lose much money straight away. But realised you may need insurance if subletting.
Then also realised you need the money for the new place if that too is jeonse system.
I think you and Claire should get legal advice; i assume there's something like legal aid where it's very inexpensive or free, initial, legal advice. (I've seen there's a Korean lawyer that's a youtuber - could be somewhere to start).
Another thought was because the addition is illegal, it shouldn't be entirely your responsibility to find the next tenant, and the landlord should also be trying to as well.
It's a pity that new regulation applies retrospectively (from way it sounded). Sometimes new regulations don't apply to things that occurred before the regulation came in. Here, anyway.
Of course I know almost nothing about Korean legal system and insurances there, so my comments may be useless. Just "thinking out loud". Wish I knew more...
What are the rules on returning the closet to it's original state? I don't know the laws in Korea regarding such things but it seems like you and the landlord should be able to come to an agreement on returning the closet to a balcony. If that's an option? It's something to look into maybe. Good luck on figuring it out. Keep being a good person and thinking positively and things will work out eventually. In one way or another. 💜
many comments are suggesting to sue the owner company and although that would be a feasible option, under different circumstances, im afraid a lawyer would not take on this case. from my understanding (and in simplified terms) since rachel was aware of the risk (admitted to having watched a video four years before -prior to moving in) as well as renewing the contract (still having the knowledge of the illegal structure), it was a willing transaction and, therefore, has to assume all risks. the risk, in this case, being the loss of her deposit.
i, however, am not giving any legal advice and would, instead, recommend consulting w a lawyer anyways.
Oh my god! This sucks! You poor girls. I hope you get this all figured out safely and securely.
I am sorry that happened to you, Ms Rachel. Thank you for sharing about this to us, never knew this sort of thing actually exists. I hope things work out for you. However, may I know how to identify whether the building is illegally expanded or has illegal structures?
Things will work out for you because you are a good person. Can’t say the same for the owner of your apartment.
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Sorry to hear what you are going through, Rachel. Why dont you keep the apartment and Aibnb it out or rent the room out so you dont lose all the money? I'll move to Korea next year so hopefully, we'll get connected.
What Joseph Kendall said!!! Go to court, the did illigao thing and force on you the situation by finding tents to illigaly place, misgide you ang by being powerless! Sue the company and the women individually! No law can defend that.
Wow, how long are u contracted to stay there
I would find an attorney. Sounds like your landlady duped you. I wish you the best of luck
Isn't there any state institution that handles illegal expansion that you could report the building to? I don't know how it works in Korea but in Italy if the owner builds illegally, they are responsible for restructuring or demolishing back to the way it was.
I would really try to see what you can find about this.