I actually have to say I thought the samething until I really spent time thinking about it. Loki literally went there to do exactly what himdell said he did. He read his mind and saw the future, the context he can't know, but he wasn't wrong.
Knowing Odin's scheming abilities, there's probably a good chance Odin encouraged Heimdall to antagonize Atreus even infront of himself so he can try and be friendly with Atreus to win his trust. definitely an idea though.
Maybe he teleported Atreus outside of Asgards walls knowing Atreus would have to breach the wall and run into Heimdall. Heimdall would do his job like usual and then Odin gets to come in and save the day and to Heimdall and Atreus this all happens organically.
No, this is not true for the soul fact that EVEYRYONE in Asgard wants Odin's approval or attention. Heimdall, Thor and Baldur all want Daddy's attention and Heimdall has bo ability to be deceiving. He is what you get he has foresight...he sees the worst in people and it was no trick from Heimdall but Odin knew his Aesir would be quite rough. Odin takes advantage of this and we see how the boys all submit to their father and long for his love. Baldur couldn't psychically love/feel anything, so he went crazed for that feeling. Thor is clearly the same, wants his father's approval after all the Giants he made Thor slay. But Thor becomes depressed about being a monster. But he's odins tool not son. Heimdal wants all fathers attention like a lost puppy and will remain loyal to the end ..Odin forced loyalty on them and if they show the most loyalty and blind following the all father favoured them. Look at Magni and Modi Magni was overconfident most likely didn't obey Odin at every whim so he sent them put to die against this Giant or foreign God.
@Hhgh Fhhfh yea there's no way he deserved a nomination over the others in the game. If they wanted to give it to one of the kids then Laya deserved it way more than he did.
Heimdall wasn't around long,but he's everything Hermes failed at being in GOW3. Menacing,Annoying,threatening,spoiled and Cocky,entitled,and actually carried a very great amount of intimidation when they built up how Threatening this guy is.
False. More like both Heimdall and Hermes were annoying, threatening, spoiled, and cocky, just that Heimdall was actually a lot less boastful and more tame than Hermes was.
Heimdall never flaunted his abilities to be fair. You acts in a cocky way but the only way we even learned about him was through other characters. The only time he mentioned his own abilities was in a secret dialogue where he talks about envying Odin because he is able to see good, while Heimdall only sees people for what they really are.
@@lekacious3529 No, no, he definitely flaunted his abilities--main point in trying to catch the explosive spear that screwed him over instead of trying to straight up dodge it.
Respect heimdall strength -Is stated to be able to beat thor in combat. - Kratos needed a specific weapon to counter him even calling that weapon "their best chance". -Is literally untouchable so much so that sindri called him undefeated. - People think he is weak because he got defeated but kratos is literally the ONLY person to ever touch him and that is because of the spear without it kratos might have lost before he found another way to touch him.
Idk, some draupnir moves must be could be imitated in some way "Overwhelming the one senses" Its not thor weaknesses and thor could done that in some way with his lightning (he is shown to be able to sent a giant snake back in time, so why not?) Heimdall power is just "slightly foresight the future" to predict enemy movement and react to it on the present. The future now changes to him dodging your attack If you cant do shit to react to it, your fate is sealed. Getting smashed on face. Its just create worriness to someone not used to it
@@Ultimate0Phantasm I really appreciate and commend you post. I’ve seen so many say Heimdall was weak and overrated, but I think their strong love affair for Kratos blinds them from seeing worthy adversaries. And Heimdall is that, Kratos himself gave him props.
@@3takoyakis Heimdall power is not foresight to the future its seeing his enemy "Intentions" added the fact that he also have godly senses and speed makes him untouchable so much so that only kratos is able to touch him The only reason kratos is able to touch him is because of the spear overloading his senses and kratos closing his heart and head meaning Heimdall not only have his senses overload he also can't sense kratos intentions added the fact that kratos is literally one of the most skilled fighter in the game.
Fun fact, in the Eddas, I believe Heimdall is also a son of Odin along with Tyr, Thor, and Baldur. So Odin raised an abused and murderous drunkard, a mind reading a-hole, an unfeeling lunatic, and the only good Aesir God. Makes you realize how bad of a father Odin was considering only one of his four sons turned out to be good.
Fuck it, its a game which midas put his hands on lava and then thrown into lava There were also poseidon wives thrown into grinding gear just to open the door
I’m surprised that he became my favorite character introduced in Ragnarok and my favorite Norse God. I love just how Baldur’s “blessed with invulnerability to all threats physical or magical” came at a price of not being able to feel literally anything Heimdalls foresight comes at a cost of seeing only the worst of people which makes him jaded and unable to trust anyone leading to being hated by everyone. He’s massively underrated as a legitimate threat because he doesn’t have titanic strength like Thor or Hercules but he doesn’t need it as his other abilities/skills more than make up for it. Aside from his power of foresight (which is the greatest form we’ve seen in the series), he’s the only enemy to have the ability to realm shift by altering time, his mastery of the Bifrost is rivaled only by Odin as both can create a Bifrost armor/covering and can use it offensively, his speed while not as fast as Hermes in my opinion is still superior to every other god, and his hand to hand skills as well as swordsmanship make excellent use of his foresight using swift strikes such as a sword tilt to the stomach to put his enemy on his knees before they can react. The only complaint I have is I would have preferred that he liked animals because he can see they have no ulterior motives and it would also serve as a way for him to be more as a rival to Atreus/Loki both of them being fond of animals for different reasons.
nah that would've given them actual common ground which would've muddied the waters too much for establishing Heimdall as a proper villain, I guess you can assume he got bored of how simple animals were because he really seems to delight in fucking with people
@@Frikcha It's both hilarious and disturbing that given Heimdall's powers of foresight one of his favourites pastimes might be just standing up in the middle of a room snooping on everyone's thoughts nearby while having a drink. We can actually see him doing that when we first play with Atreus on Asgard.
And don’t forget Mimir says he has never seen anyone lay a finger on Heimdall. And remember Mimir lived in Asgard during the Aesir-Vanir war. That says a lot!
Heimdall: "So... what part of the enormous wall made you think, 'oh, visitors must be welcome'?" Atreus: "Well see, there were these guide markers going all along it from bottom to top, so..."
Heimdall: "Oh, *guide markers* conveniently put in certain locations in a wall designed to keep out invaders? What bright spark ever thought of that?" *eyerolling*
Probably my favorite character, to bad it was short lived. He reminded me of a lot of baldur real calm and cool, a shame heimdell didn’t have a bigger part in the game.
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt He's a god made miserable by his own power. Just like Heimdall. Heimdall was just less manic about it because he still could get some meager pleasures.
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt True unfortunately he wasn’t in this game. But I like hemidell, he just reminded me of him. Hemidell could have been the main villain for this game if done right
I love how heimdall is kind of an anti-Baldir. Baldur can’t feel pain and so feel eternally alienated from others and is almost grateful to kratos when he finally feels pain. heimdall’s abilities meant he never had to face pain and uses it to laud his superiority over others, but when he finally feels even a small amount of pain after kratos hits him he immediately falls apart.
@BlackStar-hy1iy He got immediately and permanently dazed by the fact he got hit. Notice how the - what do you call it...stun? Stagger? - meter doesn't recede. He became permanently staggered by the fact that he got hit once. Also notice he just flails his sword and hands around without skill and just relies on his power completely. This guy doesn't know real combat and I doubt he accepted training because of his overconfidence
Honestly if I could read people's thoughts through observation and had to see everyone lie to me and themselves around me, along with having an awful unpleasable father like Odin, I'd be a dick too. There's just no joy in Heimdall's life other than getting some cheap thrills out of making people as miserable as he is everyday. He does a thankless job and everybody despises or disrespects him. Doesn't excuse his actions, but you can see how someone would turn out this way.
Finally, A nuance post about the character. Instead of "calling him annoying, dick or the "Hermes" of this saga" Don't get me wrong Heimdall is a pure asshole, but damnit if he isn't an interesting character. I would definitely love seeing a game or something through his perspective.
Lots of people in Asgard have bad parents and jobs they don't really like, though. Thrud wants to be a Valkyrie but her parents don't want her to. And Thrud is a well-liked and kind person. Asgard dislikes Heimdall because he's mean, not because he has a bad job or he's some misunderstood prodigy. If you know for a fact that everyone you meet is lying to you and to themselves, then you can just as easily learn not to hold it against them, because you also know they can't help themselves. Not to mention that you also have the power to see the good in people, to see when someone genuinely has no malice towards you. Being mean is always a choice.
Heimdall's character is so unique. When Odin said "Sometimes he just doesn't think, y'know" got me "think"ing. Heimdall either can sees through people's mind or can sense threats. He knows their intentions but doesn't "think" to understand why. Sure, it's depressing and torturous to see how horrible people are, but you just gotta understand why, before comes into conclusion about who they really are. Heimdall's power is really good, but he just won't stop thinking that they are bad just because they have bad intentions, resulting him being such an asshole to anyone even though they've never done anything to him YET. That's why Heimdall's character is so unique, but boy he could've gone through a better route if he changed the way he "thinks".
The thing is, Heimdall sees peoples true intentions which includes things that they don't even know about themselves. Heimdall literally told Atreus his own backstory. He knows everything about EVERYONE.
This is actually a very good point. Heimdall: he means to betray you allfather. Odin: Of course he means to betray me. Do you know who tf i am to them? I've given them no reason to trust me. So before you go around killing my guests, exercise some THOUGHT and his bad intentions won't seem bad. it'll just seem like common sense. There's a difference between intentions and actions. What a person wants to do, wishes they could do, can do and will do are all mutually exclusive. Heimdall doesn't "think" he thinks at face value which makes him seem stupid and an asshole to everyone else cause if i have intentions of cheating, but never do and resist that urge, its not a bad intention, its just a natural urge and i'm actually good for resisting that. Heimdall thinks you're an asshole for daring to be attracted to someone else and treats you like it. And you've only ever met this guy once in the mead hall or something and didnt even meet him directly. Yea i'd hate him too lol.
@@kazama195 No no no. The thing is, Heimdall doesn't see face value and that's the problem. He only sees thing deep down. He talks about envying Odin for his ability to see good in a secret dialogue. Heimdall can only see true intentions which makes him kind of justified, speaking that it is also his job to kill people who are a threat to Odin. And in the end Heimdall was right.
Yeah right I love his complex, it's genuinely so cool with so much to think about. He's *technically* right to be on edge and haughty, but he's grown bored and listless towards everything around him. Due to his ability, he let himself get so prideful, but without any humility he made enemies of friends and such rookie mistakes thinking he was actually invincible.
i like what happened at 27:02. the lady took Kratos' blood and saw the god of war symbol, and i think she refused to imbue that part of Kratos so she took the spartan warrior side of him, hence the symbol shift. nice little touch
@@SuccessQuotesMotivation emphasis on the "i think". the lady didn't say a single word during the whole sequence so i guess we're free to speculate and that's what i think happened
@@arvee3451 Well that is considered arrogant and delusional. Especially after my comment. Also emasculate for you to exclude the God of War symbol, even though that's not even what it was. It was the omega symbol. Nor was it not included. "I think" you are a young lad who's been stripped of his male hormones.
Ooooooo shit heimdall Is harry What a difference role can make from sounding so worried and or scared and optimistic as Harry to being a dick In this game
@@lulukomadori9651 If it was a trilogy than Thor would be the final boss and Heimdall would be the one before it I think is what he meant as Odin would have to be the final boss in the 3rd game
@@josephstalin2606 So long as we didn’t kill Thor in the 2nd game. I would have preferred Thor to be present in the 3rd installment as well. Remember in GOW 3, we fought Poseidon, Hades, and even Hercules before we took on Zeus.
Does anyone know why Heimdall was so loyal to Odin? Considering Odin true wishes are just for his pursue for knowledge and not to protect the realm (which is what heimdall wishes for), I'm curious to know why he still remains so loyal and faithful
Odin never lie nor deceive himself. He truly believe what he done is a right thing and never wavered about it no matter consequences he must pay. I truly believe Odin really wanna protect the realm, his realm, as he envisioned and no other else.
Seeing an unfiltered Odin would be a very scary experience. Heimdall was probably terrified of him and what he was truly capable of, seeing what he's willing to do - and sacrifice - for his own goals.
Atreus couldn't read minds of Odin's ravens, and considering they are extensions of Odin's will, Heimdall most likely doesn't have access to mindreading of Odin himself either
I’d disagree with casting. Odins voice and Thors voice are just off to me especially since literally Baldur, Magni, and Modi all had “scandinavian” accents so why does everyone in this game all of a sudden talk with American ones? Are those 3 the only ones that have accents and if so why? It’s so stupid and inconsistent. Heimdall gets a pass because he nailed the cocky bully voice but Odin isn’t even intimidating at all he’s a creepy old man whos filled with insecurity, AC Valhalla literally had a way better Odin who represented a king of gods and not a school principal
@@karabovilakazi5021 No if you listen to how he talks he has a slight accent for instance when he tells Kratos he expected him to be “bigger” he pronounces it as “bigga” it’s not a perfect accent or anything but it’s still way better and immersive than a flat out American one
@@josephstalin2606 I actually liked this interpretation of Odin because most people expect this huge intimidating badass old man, but this Odin appears as a seemingly friendly grandpa (until we get to know how he truly is later on). I dunno but he diverted expectations in a good way imo.
I really liked the small touch in the end where Heimdall asks what happens in the "empty head" of Kratos. To me it's not only an insult of his barbaric ways, but rather disbelief. Through the last two games Kratos teached Atreus to harness his panic and use it in the fight, to clear his mind and close his heart. Additionally, when he hunted he teached him to see the enemy or prey only as a target, limiting his emotions to a bare minimum. My theory would be that Kratos won not only by overloading Heimdall's senses with the Draupnir spear but also by limiting his ability to forsee his next move by blocking Heimdall from reading his mind during the fight. Simply because when the time calls for it, he is able to fight with an "empty" calm mind . He even aknowledge it when he sits with Thor in the begining of the game answering his question about being calm and reasonable.
Yes, youre right. Many boxers can block, punch, evade and point his target without even think about it. One is muscular memory amd the other is the brain. In some stressful situation the brain changes waves to fast that even scanners can handle. Of of those waves its theta that allows the body to move out of instint, that can be seem when people get in car accidents and act faster to survive. One example in real life its ali avoiding the attacks of his opponent and Mocking him. The other wave is gamma and tends to be realese when we get sleep.
I feel like the developers had a different idea for how Heimdall was supposed to look between games given the early picture we see of him. The clean shaven appearance fits him better anyways, as a nice foil to Thor whose messy look shows how little he thinks of himself, Heimdall's lack of beard and short finely cut hair emphasizes how highly he thinks of himself with how much he has to put into his appearance. While he doesn't look like much, when the initial fight starts, you notice "he doesn't have a life bar." This is a nice break from how forgettable most of the gods in the older games were, Heimdall is a supporting villain, but he's still nicely built up someone you can love to hate and enemy who has weight in the story since it takes a new weapon forged specifically to kill him to stand a chance, and even then it still takes some quick thinking on Kratos' part to use it right.
then you realise they gave him ps1 boss mechanics and have to make him touch the glowing explosive, god who can see all but a fucking spear sticking out the ground right in front of him
Honestly if heimdall had remained composed in phase 2 instead of letting his emotions get the better of him he might have been able to out do kratos by way of speed alone.
Kratos still have trump card, you see this is why mind reader's greatest nightmare is an insane opponent, Kratos have Spartan Rage, and Heimdall reads intention, you might not gonna like what Kratos have in mind when he's in Spartan Rage
In fandom, where liking a character much more than Kratos is a cardinal sin. I committed that sin in abundance. Because I loved Heimdall. He and Thor were my favorite characters of the whole game, in fact the Aesir as a whole were my favorite thing out of the game. I find them a very fascinating group with Heimdall being a strong stand out. His designs, personality, voice, powers and skill set were all so entertaining and cool. It would be so sweet to see more of him in some shape way or form. He is just so damn riveting.
Kratos is my third favorite with thor on second and guess who on first Yes,sindri,my man offered shelter,resources and his helping hand to kratos and atreus and in return he got a dead brother who will never find peace in the afterlife and the burden of being part of a race thats oppresed by the king of the aesir
Heimdall is so damn good man. He Easily one of my favorite characters they’ve ever done. His personality and voice actor is perfect. Also, I never caught the Thor line “look into my eyes, you tell me” when Heimdal asked how he was gonna stop him. Thor was gonna demolish him in the worst way possible and Heimdall backed down cause he saw his intentions. Brilliant.
@@alexd9550 untrue look at the crater. Thor would have nuked that little area with lighting. Killing innocent Asgardians if needed. Maybe that's why he a sick man. You may be able to predict an explosion. Doesn't mean you can dodge it if you next to it
"I am not your enemy"-"I will be the judge of that." And he pulls him up, because Heimdall looked into Atreus' eyes and saw that he truly believed it. How could Atreus see him as a real foe, Aesir or not, he just met him and had no terrible stories to make him think otherwise.
loved heimdall. Yes he was a snarky douche and gives off Hermes vibes but mans was no bitch. Not to mention his hands and precog was so goated that he never gotten touched in combat. So much so that Kratos needed a spear to get an advantage to beat him. Wish he survived longer
Fuck yes exactly, fans keep dissing Heimdall. But the Ghost Of Sparta himself gave Heimdall props in his journal. I think Heimdall should have lasted till the siege of Asgard.
Finally someone that actually know his strength he is stated also to be able to WIN against thor in combat and sindri calling him undefeated has some truths in it kratos even called that spear "Their only chance" people think he is weak because he lost but he was fighting kratos thats why.
@@Ultimate0Phantasm well I would actually say that instead of him fighting Kratos being the reason he lost, it was moreso of Kratos having a direct hard counter to his abilities. Had Kratos went in blind and even with all the rage and strength he could muster against Heimdall, he would still lose due to getting outmaneuvered and ultimately Heimdall would kill him via pure skill
I loves heimdall. Sure he’s snarky and douchy but he’s similar like Baldur in a sense , where they are both broken by cursed powers. Just like not being able to feel anything drove Baldur to madness , Heimdalls power to read minds must’ve been so awful to have. You can only see the worst in people and what they truly think down inside , and i think that would always create someone who’s distrustful and pissy. Cant help but feel bad for the guy who can read everyone’s dark thoughts and lies for centuries , really well written character and i wish he didn’t die so soon , i feel like he could’ve had some form of redemption or an upbringing like Baldur.
Except for the fact that I think he also enjoyed being like that, "untouchable". In fact, I think he and Baldur are complete opposites. With one not even wanting to live for not being able to feel anything, and the other bragging about not ever feeling pain or being in danger. When Baldur started feeling again he was even grateful for Kratos and when Heimdall was punched he was devastated that he was vulnerable and started going full on offensive mode since he was scared for his life not even using his foresight ability. So yeah in a way they are in the same league, but total opposites.
Something I noticed, when some character talked they say “All father will not be pleased” or “you cannot stand against all father”, but Heimdall always says “THE All-Father”
I think the worst part about the gods in this universe is the irony of their situations Baldur is immortal and invulnerable but doesn’t feel alive because of the lack of danger. Thor is a incredibly strong warrior who Laments his role in the pantheon who would probably be a lot happier living in peace with his family. Heimdall can see and hear everything even seeing peoples intentions and future actions and this had made him bored and cynical which ironically makes him the most predictable person in the pantheon.
9:07 If we put this scene into context when heindall ask thor how he was going to stop him when thor said "look into my eyes and tell me" maybe this is meant to insinuate that he was going to shove the arrow up is a... Heindall does drop the arrow calling him a sick man.
31:15 that little hug between Kratos & Atreus, that type of love, seamless, just part of the fabric of how they move. That's SO hard to act out naturally. Incredible direction!
I like how his role as Bifrost guardian and Protector of the Asgard wall plays a larger role in his ability to predetermine others moves. As we already know the Bifrost consists of the Light of Alfheim and the Lake of Souls. The Light of Alfheim shows previous and future events of whoever goes inside. I like that lil detail and how it coincides with what he can do.
"I watch your mouth move and I see cities burning. Nothing good is going to come from you being in Asgard" is delivered with such strong emotion that I didn't notice the first time I heard it. He actually sounds distressed.
It is not often that kratos gives people a chance to walk away and save themselves. Heimdall should have took that offer, he probably would have survived Ragnarok had he not been so loyal and devoted to that one-eyed paranoid fool
On the contrary, he did it a whole lot in the original trilogy. At least 90% of the people and gods he killed were collateral damage who didn’t have the brains or good sense to mind their business or stay out of Kratos’ way, despite him giving them every chance to do so.
Might be wrong about this but i thought that Vikings actually believed that not dying on the battlefield is the greatest shame a warrior could face. Only those that died in battle could have the blessing of the gods, and be selected by Odin and his valkyries to join them in valhalla. I interpreted Heimdall's reluctance that he didn't wish to shame himself by not dying a warrior's death. That and his ego and not wanting to die by the hands of 'the half-breeds' dad.
@@wesleygriffiths8748 you are right. Even in GOW3 (arguably when the angriest Kratos ever been) he only wished to get Zeus. Helios, Poseidon, Heracles, Hera, etc, they ASKED for a fight.
@@SirBananaFunk Hera has to be the biggest example on that list, excluding Hermes. Kratos was literally walking away from her and had every intention of letting her slide, but she chose to open her mouth and talk shit.
I really like the "empty head" remark. Means that Kratos is purposely not thinking at all as to not give Heimdall the advantage of reading his mind. Pretty cool.
I love each and every Villain/Antagonist in the game. Freya was a good obstacle to test Kratos’s struggle for his past coming back to haunt him. Heimdall reminds me of Baldur where they’re both blessed with abilities that made them unfamiliar with pain, it’s also how his personality stands out as an eccentric Aesir. As well as how he was the start of a possible Kratos giving into his anger. Thor as the one that is willing to change but has been manipulated by Odin to the point where fighting his influence was futile and eventually lead to his death. As well as showing an unhealthy way to cope with grief, being a reminder of Kratos himself. Odin being the mastermind in all of this where he never was really shaken and now we know why at the end. His charisma and how they chose to never show him doing anything as sadistic as people have told the audience, to then suddenly break it by having Odin stab a beloved character. Just everyone in this game is just so well written.
He’s actually one of the more honorable characters as he was the only thing standing between Atreus and Odin . He’s so clearly dedicated it makes me respect him , despite how much of an asshole he is . He was only trying to protect Asgard .
Haimdall Kinda reminds me of Agent Smith from the Matrix, clever, cruel, far sighted and diffrent from the usual black and white personalitys and dialogues wish is allways welcomed
I can watch gameplay a million times and still be excited to play it. I've been a fan of G.O.W since the beginning. I hope they keep coming out and getting better and better.
3:37 Gotta love this moment with Heimdall doing some serious projecting of his own issues onto Loki, considering he has his own "overshadowing father figure he can never live up to." Also, Heimdall calling Loki "disrespectful, entitled, and impulsive", pot meet kettle. But that seems to be Heimdall's biggest weakness, he's so sure he's better than everyone else because he can read intentions, and yet the one mind he never bothered to read was his own.
I have never hated yet loved a character more in my life. I hate how much of a bully he is, the way he treated Atreus and Thrud but his cockiness and overconfidence cannot be ignored. He’s a remarkable character and his voice acting suits him perfectly.
@@gpavitra85 During Ragnarok, Loki and Heimdall were meant to be rivals decided by fate. In this game however, Atreus is Heimdall while Heimdall ironically is Loki
15:54 There are about 1,329,832 Draupnir copies in the cave (+1 original)! Draupnir has been in that cave for about 4104 of our years. See below for math. Draupnir creates 8 copies of itself on every 9th day. Roughly 324 new rings appear during each of our years. This ring looks like it's about 1cm thick, and the average ring diameter for men is about 1.6cm. Accounting for material thickness, let's say each ring is (roughly) a cylinder with a radius of 1cm and a height of 1cm. This gives us a volume of 3.14 cubic centimeters. Densely packed circles (hexagonal arrangement) fill 91% of the space they occupy. Let's be charitable and say that the rings are packed fairly densely - maybe 80%, accounting for the fact that rings can intersect each other slightly and that a bunch of disc-shaped objects will most likely settle parallel to the floor. For the Z dimension, let's assume that the rings are stacked in 1.2cm-thick layers (it won't be perfect, obviously - I chose this arbitrarily). A cubic meter would contain about 21,165 rings. (~83 layers, each layer has a total area of 1000cm^2, 80% packing density = 800cm^2, 800 divided by cross-sectional area of ring (3.14cm^2) = ~255, 255 * 83 = 21,165.) The chamber appears to be fairly large, maybe 10 meters in diameter based on Sindri's size. We don't know how deep the rings are piled, but let's say that it's 2 meters. That's a total volume of ~62.8 cubic meters occupied by rings, which means that there are about 1329839 rings in the cave. However, Draupnir produces copies in increments of 8, so 1329839 % 8 = 7, which means that there are a total of 1329832 copies and 1 original in the cave. 1329832/324 new rings per year = 4104 years. Not gonna do the leap year calculation.
I honestly did pity this guy he relied solely on his agility to read people and when that began to fail he he crumpled like paper failing to even try to adapt defaulting to flailing around with progressively more reckless attacks that only resulted in him being beaten faster. He is a bully with a fancy knife barley able to be the sum of his parts an unable to be anything more, a lot like Homelander in a way. A very well done character.
When I first met Heimdall, I completely missed taking in the view and went straight for the elevator at first. I thought Heimdall being offended was only because I didn't even take a moment to look at the view of Asgard, looks like he's an asshole either way 💀
He is not good in his strategy despite his abilities. Even he can beat Thor in a fight, he is unlike Kratos who manage to beat Heimdall due to strategy.
I just realised something, Asgard is not really guarded by a wall but more so built into the wall and situated just a little bit further down the top of the wall, so it's more of a tower guarded by a cliff face. Right?
Directors did a great job with Heimdall's foresight. Even from that first talk between him and Atreus, he didn't know everything but was perceptive enough to know when he's lying and telling the truth.
You know, with all the Heimdall scenes I was always wondering what he saw when looking at others, except at Odin. I think at 10:48 he saw Odin's fervor to actually fully take up Atreus, something Odin didn't even technically do for Heimdall outside of work. Perhaps a fundamental sense of jealousy drove him, from here. Just a thought.
Seems to be 99% of people think Heimdall was “scared” of Thor, when he could perfectly counter Kratos until he made a very specific weapon to counter him. Hiemdall said “you’re a sick man” because he saw that Thor would betray everything/ruin everything. Worst part Kratos/Atreus are the “bad guys” in these last two GOW games. Hiemdall is/was the savior. A hero with different goals than our protagonist. Same can be said about Pain/Nagato and Obito in the Naruto series.
Thank you i keep seeing this nonsense, he told Thrudd himself he isn't scared of Thor, he only left that times out of disgust and not fear, but people are too stupid or fanboy to accept the facts.
You're living up to your name (retarded) Heimdall isn't a hero and kratos and atreus aren't villains from any perspective. Odin is paranoid with control issues and tried to wipe out everyone that was a threat and used the gods under his command to make that so. They didn't attack until they were attacked, same with the jotnar and most other threats to Odin. Your interpretation is moronic because the game clearly shows how villainous nearly every God in this pantheon is, and unlike the original trilogy where that was the case but kratos was clearly overdoing the violence, in this game they are both going out of their way to not harm anyone except for Heimdall, who is so irredeemably racist, violent, and arrogant that kratos can't spare him even after offering him multiple chances.
Honestly, that just makes Heimdall an idiot. Thor has killed countless droves of giants that Heimdall has shown no ability to even combat and people do realize that Thor was strong enough to battle Jormungandr and shake the World Tree so badly Jormie got sent back in time. Heimdall can dodge and weave but he doesn't have the arsenal or skillset Kratos had to beat Thor. Also he doesn't ever tell Thor to his face he is not scared of him and considering Heimdall was more than willing to backdown once Thor got serious I would imagine he know his limits and Thor is beyond them.
@@sohflipz4439 there is nothing to suggest in the original myth or the god of war games that Thor could touch Heimdall...in the myth, only Loki is said to kill Heimdall during the final stages of Ragnarok but even then Heimdall was so strong he ended up killing Loki at the same time....in the god of war game, the spear is the only weakness Heimdall has been shown to have because it's the one weapon that could overload his senses, I don't see how Mjolnir could do that or Thor with his thunder could....
That Dropnir thing is quite the gift! Something that duplicates any weapon it touches infinitely. Can you imagine the possibilities? That has to be the greatest treasure ever conceived!
Alternative Title: God of War: Ragnarok - The Story of Heimdall the Loser In all seriousness, Heimdall was portrayed really well. His callousness and devotion to Odin is unmatched; the ultimate pawn.
Nah, I think you just can’t see clearly if you call him a loser. Heim is like that friend that always warn you about having too many people around you knowing you’ll get backstabbed. Maybe you’re one of those people that also love backstabbing your “friends”.
@@thebluerock6048 Because he was…? I don’t think you understood what I was saying. Heimdall had his own issues, but he was just a pawn for Odin, which made him a victim as well despite his fierce loyalty.
After Atreus fires his last arrow at Heimdall, Heimdall gets annoyed that some mud got on him implying he didn't see that coming. Also shows that he can be subverted later on.
Can we get a petition to make in any official dictionary a picture of Heimdall used as an example for what an asshole is. Yes the word asshole should also be added in these dictionaries.
Wait a minute... That moment when Heimdall says Atreus means to betray Odin and Odin turns to confront Atreus on this, Heimdall moves to the side. He has a grin that says "Oh you're going to get it NOW," but then Odin says he's joking and turns back around to where Heimdall was, expecting him to be there. If Heimdall can read minds, shouldn't he have known that Odin was just messing with the boy and thus not be smiling? Or have stayed put rather than moved? It seemed like he didn't know what Odin was going to do, which may be evidence that he can't read Odin's mind at all.
@@illuminate8321 I always figured he had to look at a person in order to read their intent, not their minds. Otherwise, he'd be vulnerable to surprise attacks from behind and that's a major flaw to his ability, and it surely would have been brought up by someone in the game. In order for him to be considered untouchable, he has to be able to read the minds of people he can't see.
Pride. He could have allowed himself to be spared so he could find and kill Atreus. He might have been able to team up with someone else to take Kratos down. But no.. Even having his arm blasted into spaghetti sauce didn't drive home the fact that he was getting owned. *"Monster"* Aren't we all?
Can move so fast he practically teleports, he can read minds, and is first seen eating an apple. Yea definitely the god of assholes.
Hmmm... sounds familiar
Dude immediately gave me Hermes flashback!
*Ding
I actually have to say I thought the samething until I really spent time thinking about it. Loki literally went there to do exactly what himdell said he did. He read his mind and saw the future, the context he can't know, but he wasn't wrong.
@@L0rdDeLtA To catch a fly from the ass of Odin is not worth my time.
Knowing Odin's scheming abilities, there's probably a good chance Odin encouraged Heimdall to antagonize Atreus even infront of himself so he can try and be friendly with Atreus to win his trust. definitely an idea though.
Good cop bad cop routine
Maybe he teleported Atreus outside of Asgards walls knowing Atreus would have to breach the wall and run into Heimdall. Heimdall would do his job like usual and then Odin gets to come in and save the day and to Heimdall and Atreus this all happens organically.
No, this is not true for the soul fact that EVEYRYONE in Asgard wants Odin's approval or attention. Heimdall, Thor and Baldur all want Daddy's attention and Heimdall has bo ability to be deceiving. He is what you get he has foresight...he sees the worst in people and it was no trick from Heimdall but Odin knew his Aesir would be quite rough.
Odin takes advantage of this and we see how the boys all submit to their father and long for his love.
Baldur couldn't psychically love/feel anything, so he went crazed for that feeling.
Thor is clearly the same, wants his father's approval after all the Giants he made Thor slay. But Thor becomes depressed about being a monster. But he's odins tool not son.
Heimdal wants all fathers attention like a lost puppy and will remain loyal to the end
..Odin forced loyalty on them and if they show the most loyalty and blind following the all father favoured them.
Look at Magni and Modi
Magni was overconfident most likely didn't obey Odin at every whim so he sent them put to die against this Giant or foreign God.
Dumbledore and Snape pulled that off too.
He respects Heimdall. He killed Brok for him after all.
The voice actors in this game were so incredible, Heimdall especially.
Yep he’s like Micah bell someone you love to hate
Getting mad anime villain vibes from him
@Hhgh Fhhfh I can see that, he was def the worst out of them.
@Hhgh Fhhfh yea there's no way he deserved a nomination over the others in the game. If they wanted to give it to one of the kids then Laya deserved it way more than he did.
scott porter is a seasoned voice actor really good at his job
Heimdall wasn't around long,but he's everything Hermes failed at being in GOW3.
Menacing,Annoying,threatening,spoiled and Cocky,entitled,and actually carried a very great amount of intimidation when they built up how Threatening this guy is.
Hermes was the annoying gnat we were all happy to see die in GOW3 lol
@@karthikkr93 don't forget about stealing his J's😅
@@christophermarkee5445
What you get from Heimdall is a challenging boss fight and myriads of roasts for Kratos straight from his mouth!
False.
More like both Heimdall and Hermes were annoying, threatening, spoiled, and cocky, just that Heimdall was actually a lot less boastful and more tame than Hermes was.
@@rcl4737 Nah, Heimdall was WAY WORSE than Hermes. You got it completely backwards.
"Real power, you see, does not need to flaunt"- A nugget of wisdom Heimdall has been taught to parrot but not truly internalized, apparently.
The irony of an all-seeing god not being able to see that in himself lol
@@Richard-Espanol facts
Heimdall never flaunted his abilities to be fair. You acts in a cocky way but the only way we even learned about him was through other characters. The only time he mentioned his own abilities was in a secret dialogue where he talks about envying Odin because he is able to see good, while Heimdall only sees people for what they really are.
Actually Heimdall was the one who pushed the story further if it wasn't for Heimdall Kratos would never seek out creating a new weapon
@@lekacious3529 No, no, he definitely flaunted his abilities--main point in trying to catch the explosive spear that screwed him over instead of trying to straight up dodge it.
Respect heimdall strength
-Is stated to be able to beat thor in combat.
- Kratos needed a specific weapon to counter him even calling that weapon "their best chance".
-Is literally untouchable so much so that sindri called him undefeated.
- People think he is weak because he got defeated but kratos is literally the ONLY person to ever touch him and that is because of the spear without it kratos might have lost before he found another way to touch him.
Also don't go telling me that he is scared of thor he is only disgusted on what he saw on him in a fight I doubt thor would be able to touch him.
Idk, some draupnir moves must be could be imitated in some way
"Overwhelming the one senses" Its not thor weaknesses and thor could done that in some way with his lightning (he is shown to be able to sent a giant snake back in time, so why not?)
Heimdall power is just "slightly foresight the future" to predict enemy movement and react to it on the present. The future now changes to him dodging your attack
If you cant do shit to react to it, your fate is sealed. Getting smashed on face. Its just create worriness to someone not used to it
@@Ultimate0Phantasm I really appreciate and commend you post. I’ve seen so many say Heimdall was weak and overrated, but I think their strong love affair for Kratos blinds them from seeing worthy adversaries. And Heimdall is that, Kratos himself gave him props.
@@3takoyakis Heimdall power is not foresight to the future its seeing his enemy "Intentions" added the fact that he also have godly senses and speed makes him untouchable so much so that only kratos is able to touch him
The only reason kratos is able to touch him is because of the spear overloading his senses and kratos closing his heart and head meaning Heimdall not only have his senses overload he also can't sense kratos intentions added the fact that kratos is literally one of the most skilled fighter in the game.
@@Okkotsu86275 Np I also hate when people underestimate someone just stating facts
Fun fact, in the Eddas, I believe Heimdall is also a son of Odin along with Tyr, Thor, and Baldur. So Odin raised an abused and murderous drunkard, a mind reading a-hole, an unfeeling lunatic, and the only good Aesir God. Makes you realize how bad of a father Odin was considering only one of his four sons turned out to be good.
In the eddas heimdall wasn't an a--hole and baldur was a pretty nice guy, loki was the actual a--hole who killed baldur as a revenge to odin
@@lmn1871 He's adopted (Loki)
@@scottymavricky not the marvel bullshit
to be fair baldur was freya's miatake
Fuck it, its a game which midas put his hands on lava and then thrown into lava
There were also poseidon wives thrown into grinding gear just to open the door
I’m surprised that he became my favorite character introduced in Ragnarok and my favorite Norse God. I love just how Baldur’s “blessed with invulnerability to all threats physical or magical” came at a price of not being able to feel literally anything Heimdalls foresight comes at a cost of seeing only the worst of people which makes him jaded and unable to trust anyone leading to being hated by everyone. He’s massively underrated as a legitimate threat because he doesn’t have titanic strength like Thor or Hercules but he doesn’t need it as his other abilities/skills more than make up for it. Aside from his power of foresight (which is the greatest form we’ve seen in the series), he’s the only enemy to have the ability to realm shift by altering time, his mastery of the Bifrost is rivaled only by Odin as both can create a Bifrost armor/covering and can use it offensively, his speed while not as fast as Hermes in my opinion is still superior to every other god, and his hand to hand skills as well as swordsmanship make excellent use of his foresight using swift strikes such as a sword tilt to the stomach to put his enemy on his knees before they can react. The only complaint I have is I would have preferred that he liked animals because he can see they have no ulterior motives and it would also serve as a way for him to be more as a rival to Atreus/Loki both of them being fond of animals for different reasons.
nah that would've given them actual common ground which would've muddied the waters too much for establishing Heimdall as a proper villain, I guess you can assume he got bored of how simple animals were because he really seems to delight in fucking with people
He probably liked animals before but as times passes he just got more corrupted to the point he only cares about himself
I give this essay a B+
@@Frikcha It's both hilarious and disturbing that given Heimdall's powers of foresight one of his favourites pastimes might be just standing up in the middle of a room snooping on everyone's thoughts nearby while having a drink. We can actually see him doing that when we first play with Atreus on Asgard.
And don’t forget Mimir says he has never seen anyone lay a finger on Heimdall. And remember Mimir lived in Asgard during the Aesir-Vanir war. That says a lot!
Heimdall: "So... what part of the enormous wall made you think, 'oh, visitors must be welcome'?"
Atreus: "Well see, there were these guide markers going all along it from bottom to top, so..."
"What?"
(Heimdall looks down)
"...Since when were those there?!"
Heimdall: "Oh, *guide markers* conveniently put in certain locations in a wall designed to keep out invaders? What bright spark ever thought of that?" *eyerolling*
Probably my favorite character, to bad it was short lived. He reminded me of a lot of baldur real calm and cool, a shame heimdell didn’t have a bigger part in the game.
Baldur is way stronger and better written tho
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt He's a god made miserable by his own power. Just like Heimdall. Heimdall was just less manic about it because he still could get some meager pleasures.
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt
True unfortunately he wasn’t in this game. But I like hemidell, he just reminded me of him. Hemidell could have been the main villain for this game if done right
@@quintbakerjr2786 maybe fixing things with his mother would've been nice
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt
Maybe but she did cross the line. Her fears and actions made him lose his mind, she can’t blame anyone but herself for that.
I love how heimdall is kind of an anti-Baldir. Baldur can’t feel pain and so feel eternally alienated from others and is almost grateful to kratos when he finally feels pain. heimdall’s abilities meant he never had to face pain and uses it to laud his superiority over others, but when he finally feels even a small amount of pain after kratos hits him he immediately falls apart.
@Deep Inside he got hit once and became a punching bag
Insightful!
Kratos emptied his head and stopped thinking
@BlackStar-hy1iy He got immediately and permanently dazed by the fact he got hit. Notice how the - what do you call it...stun? Stagger? - meter doesn't recede.
He became permanently staggered by the fact that he got hit once.
Also notice he just flails his sword and hands around without skill and just relies on his power completely.
This guy doesn't know real combat and I doubt he accepted training because of his overconfidence
Honestly if I could read people's thoughts through observation and had to see everyone lie to me and themselves around me, along with having an awful unpleasable father like Odin, I'd be a dick too. There's just no joy in Heimdall's life other than getting some cheap thrills out of making people as miserable as he is everyday. He does a thankless job and everybody despises or disrespects him. Doesn't excuse his actions, but you can see how someone would turn out this way.
Finally, A nuance post about the character. Instead of "calling him annoying, dick or the "Hermes" of this saga" Don't get me wrong Heimdall is a pure asshole, but damnit if he isn't an interesting character. I would definitely love seeing a game or something through his perspective.
*does thankless job*
*upset when people don't thank him*
I think you absolutely nailed it.
Lots of people in Asgard have bad parents and jobs they don't really like, though. Thrud wants to be a Valkyrie but her parents don't want her to. And Thrud is a well-liked and kind person. Asgard dislikes Heimdall because he's mean, not because he has a bad job or he's some misunderstood prodigy.
If you know for a fact that everyone you meet is lying to you and to themselves, then you can just as easily learn not to hold it against them, because you also know they can't help themselves. Not to mention that you also have the power to see the good in people, to see when someone genuinely has no malice towards you. Being mean is always a choice.
I pitied him because he reminds me too much of a child trying to impress a father that will never love him.
Heimdall's character is so unique. When Odin said "Sometimes he just doesn't think, y'know" got me "think"ing. Heimdall either can sees through people's mind or can sense threats. He knows their intentions but doesn't "think" to understand why. Sure, it's depressing and torturous to see how horrible people are, but you just gotta understand why, before comes into conclusion about who they really are. Heimdall's power is really good, but he just won't stop thinking that they are bad just because they have bad intentions, resulting him being such an asshole to anyone even though they've never done anything to him YET. That's why Heimdall's character is so unique, but boy he could've gone through a better route if he changed the way he "thinks".
The thing is, Heimdall sees peoples true intentions which includes things that they don't even know about themselves. Heimdall literally told Atreus his own backstory. He knows everything about EVERYONE.
This is actually a very good point.
Heimdall: he means to betray you allfather.
Odin: Of course he means to betray me. Do you know who tf i am to them? I've given them no reason to trust me. So before you go around killing my guests, exercise some THOUGHT and his bad intentions won't seem bad. it'll just seem like common sense.
There's a difference between intentions and actions. What a person wants to do, wishes they could do, can do and will do are all mutually exclusive. Heimdall doesn't "think" he thinks at face value which makes him seem stupid and an asshole to everyone else cause if i have intentions of cheating, but never do and resist that urge, its not a bad intention, its just a natural urge and i'm actually good for resisting that. Heimdall thinks you're an asshole for daring to be attracted to someone else and treats you like it. And you've only ever met this guy once in the mead hall or something and didnt even meet him directly. Yea i'd hate him too lol.
@@kazama195 No no no. The thing is, Heimdall doesn't see face value and that's the problem. He only sees thing deep down. He talks about envying Odin for his ability to see good in a secret dialogue. Heimdall can only see true intentions which makes him kind of justified, speaking that it is also his job to kill people who are a threat to Odin. And in the end Heimdall was right.
I know exactly who Thor is and I don't need to think about it. He is nothing more than muscle toxic masculity male monster.
Yeah right I love his complex, it's genuinely so cool with so much to think about. He's *technically* right to be on edge and haughty, but he's grown bored and listless towards everything around him. Due to his ability, he let himself get so prideful, but without any humility he made enemies of friends and such rookie mistakes thinking he was actually invincible.
i like what happened at 27:02. the lady took Kratos' blood and saw the god of war symbol, and i think she refused to imbue that part of Kratos so she took the spartan warrior side of him, hence the symbol shift. nice little touch
U can definitely tell by her expression as she reacted to the symbols. She prolly realize he wasn't a God prior and decide to keep his originality
Wrong. That was just part of her forging the weapons, the blood turns into the red scarf part of the weapon. Cute story though, but all non canon.
@@SuccessQuotesMotivation emphasis on the "i think". the lady didn't say a single word during the whole sequence so i guess we're free to speculate and that's what i think happened
@@arvee3451 Well that is considered arrogant and delusional. Especially after my comment. Also emasculate for you to exclude the God of War symbol, even though that's not even what it was. It was the omega symbol. Nor was it not included. "I think" you are a young lad who's been stripped of his male hormones.
@@arvee3451 I'm glad you could regale us with your revisionist tales of this video game.
0:18 the way Hemidall said hello for some reason made me think he was gonna be a good guy to Atreus😂
Same honestly. Then he kept talking.
His dodge animations are a thing of beauty
Fun Fact: Heimdall's voice actor Scott Porter also voiced Harry Osborn in Spiderman PS4
Ooooooo shit heimdall Is harry
What a difference role can make from sounding so worried and or scared and optimistic as Harry to being a dick In this game
@@Beanhead_223 Sadly he won't make a return in the sequel.
@@xenoxorus wym isn’t he supposed to be venoms first host
@@Beanhead_223 He tweeted on his Twitter account that he was now recasted with a new voice actor.
@@xenoxorus boooooo👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
Heimdall would have been the perfect 2nd final boss if they would have made GOW a trilogy like the original Greek series.
Yeah, OR Thor since the all father would've been the final boss
@@lulukomadori9651 If it was a trilogy than Thor would be the final boss and Heimdall would be the one before it I think is what he meant as Odin would have to be the final boss in the 3rd game
@@josephstalin2606 So long as we didn’t kill Thor in the 2nd game. I would have preferred Thor to be present in the 3rd installment as well. Remember in GOW 3, we fought Poseidon, Hades, and even Hercules before we took on Zeus.
We would've fought more Norse Gods that way.
It wasn’t a trilogy it was a whole lot of prequels and spin offs
Does anyone know why Heimdall was so loyal to Odin? Considering Odin true wishes are just for his pursue for knowledge and not to protect the realm (which is what heimdall wishes for), I'm curious to know why he still remains so loyal and faithful
Odin probably uses magic to hide his thoughts from hiemdall
Odin never lie nor deceive himself. He truly believe what he done is a right thing and never wavered about it no matter consequences he must pay. I truly believe Odin really wanna protect the realm, his realm, as he envisioned and no other else.
Seeing an unfiltered Odin would be a very scary experience. Heimdall was probably terrified of him and what he was truly capable of, seeing what he's willing to do - and sacrifice - for his own goals.
On some level Heimdall probably realized that Odin being in charge of the realms ensured their survival.
Kind of like Dr. Doom.
Atreus couldn't read minds of Odin's ravens, and considering they are extensions of Odin's will, Heimdall most likely doesn't have access to mindreading of Odin himself either
Every character is greatly written and casted in this game again.
Highly agree.
I’d disagree with casting. Odins voice and Thors voice are just off to me especially since literally Baldur, Magni, and Modi all had “scandinavian” accents so why does everyone in this game all of a sudden talk with American ones? Are those 3 the only ones that have accents and if so why? It’s so stupid and inconsistent. Heimdall gets a pass because he nailed the cocky bully voice but Odin isn’t even intimidating at all he’s a creepy old man whos filled with insecurity, AC Valhalla literally had a way better Odin who represented a king of gods and not a school principal
@@josephstalin2606 I thought Baldur’s accent was American lol but yeah I do agree with Magni and Modi
@@karabovilakazi5021 No if you listen to how he talks he has a slight accent for instance when he tells Kratos he expected him to be “bigger” he pronounces it as “bigga” it’s not a perfect accent or anything but it’s still way better and immersive than a flat out American one
@@josephstalin2606 I actually liked this interpretation of Odin because most people expect this huge intimidating badass old man, but this Odin appears as a seemingly friendly grandpa (until we get to know how he truly is later on). I dunno but he diverted expectations in a good way imo.
I really liked the small touch in the end where Heimdall asks what happens in the "empty head" of Kratos. To me it's not only an insult of his barbaric ways, but rather disbelief. Through the last two games Kratos teached Atreus to harness his panic and use it in the fight, to clear his mind and close his heart. Additionally, when he hunted he teached him to see the enemy or prey only as a target, limiting his emotions to a bare minimum. My theory would be that Kratos won not only by overloading Heimdall's senses with the Draupnir spear but also by limiting his ability to forsee his next move by blocking Heimdall from reading his mind during the fight. Simply because when the time calls for it, he is able to fight with an "empty" calm mind . He even aknowledge it when he sits with Thor in the begining of the game answering his question about being calm and reasonable.
Yes, youre right.
Many boxers can block, punch, evade and point his target without even think about it.
One is muscular memory amd the other is the brain.
In some stressful situation the brain changes waves to fast that even scanners can handle.
Of of those waves its theta that allows the body to move out of instint, that can be seem when people get in car accidents and act faster to survive.
One example in real life its ali avoiding the attacks of his opponent and Mocking him.
The other wave is gamma and tends to be realese when we get sleep.
I feel like the developers had a different idea for how Heimdall was supposed to look between games given the early picture we see of him. The clean shaven appearance fits him better anyways, as a nice foil to Thor whose messy look shows how little he thinks of himself, Heimdall's lack of beard and short finely cut hair emphasizes how highly he thinks of himself with how much he has to put into his appearance.
While he doesn't look like much, when the initial fight starts, you notice "he doesn't have a life bar." This is a nice break from how forgettable most of the gods in the older games were, Heimdall is a supporting villain, but he's still nicely built up someone you can love to hate and enemy who has weight in the story since it takes a new weapon forged specifically to kill him to stand a chance, and even then it still takes some quick thinking on Kratos' part to use it right.
then you realise they gave him ps1 boss mechanics and have to make him touch the glowing explosive, god who can see all but a fucking spear sticking out the ground right in front of him
@@Spacecowboyy69 Exactly the Heimdall fight was a joke, he never should have lost
"I watch your mouth move and I see cities burning." Damn that dialogue though
Honestly if heimdall had remained composed in phase 2 instead of letting his emotions get the better of him he might have been able to out do kratos by way of speed alone.
Kratos still have trump card, you see this is why mind reader's greatest nightmare is an insane opponent, Kratos have Spartan Rage, and Heimdall reads intention, you might not gonna like what Kratos have in mind when he's in Spartan Rage
@@trihermawan9553 confirmed. He read thors mind and backed off quick
@@trihermawan9553 not only that kratos killed hermies let that sink in a god with infinite speed and kratos killed him
@@Brettyb93 he didn't back off out of fear, Thor couldn't touch him and Heimdall is stated to not fear Thor.
@@alexd9550 who stated that? Heimdall himself? Not going to take that for a reason are you?
Jesus Christ, Atreus' negotiation with Heimdall did not feel like it was only two minutes long
I honestly love this take on Heimdall in the GOW franchise. He’s one of those villains that you just love to hate.
Pretty cool that when you think of it, Thor saved atreus.
I'm confident Heimdall was about to kill him.
1:55 the look of disgust on Heimdall’s face 😂
He like:did this creature really just grab me??!
@@brandonspencer5594 that’s how he felt when kratos touched his bracers 😂
22:23 One of the best voiced lines in the entire game
In fandom, where liking a character much more than Kratos is a cardinal sin. I committed that sin in abundance. Because I loved Heimdall. He and Thor were my favorite characters of the whole game, in fact the Aesir as a whole were my favorite thing out of the game. I find them a very fascinating group with Heimdall being a strong stand out. His designs, personality, voice, powers and skill set were all so entertaining and cool. It would be so sweet to see more of him in some shape way or form. He is just so damn riveting.
Ye Heimdall is a stand out character but man I loved Odin
I liked all the aesir tho
Kratos is my third favorite with thor on second and guess who on first
Yes,sindri,my man offered shelter,resources and his helping hand to kratos and atreus and in return he got a dead brother who will never find peace in the afterlife and the burden of being part of a race thats oppresed by the king of the aesir
@@mycelium1456 😂😂 that's totally understandable. Odin was so entertaining.
@@mycelium1456 Likewise, the Aesir was the major highlight and draw for me. They definitely need a whole game or DLC from their perspective
Heimdall is so damn good man. He
Easily one of my favorite characters they’ve ever done. His personality and voice actor is perfect.
Also, I never caught the Thor line “look into my eyes, you tell me” when Heimdal asked how he was gonna stop him. Thor was gonna demolish him in the worst way possible and Heimdall backed down cause he saw his intentions. Brilliant.
Heimdall was sickened by reading what thor would try to do, but he wasn't afraid of thor, as he still couldn't touch him either.
@@alexd9550 untrue look at the crater. Thor would have nuked that little area with lighting. Killing innocent Asgardians if needed. Maybe that's why he a sick man. You may be able to predict an explosion. Doesn't mean you can dodge it if you next to it
@@Johnny.G. Doubt that was his plan, as he would also potentially hit someone he cares about, Odin's guest he's protecting, or Odin's house, etc.
@@alexd9550 then why did he back down
@@Johnny.G. because plot, ask the writers.
"I am not your enemy"-"I will be the judge of that." And he pulls him up, because Heimdall looked into Atreus' eyes and saw that he truly believed it. How could Atreus see him as a real foe, Aesir or not, he just met him and had no terrible stories to make him think otherwise.
He's literally killed a son of thor and went to Asgard to collect information and spy on odin.
Maybe because he killed the sons of thor and because of his mind reading he can see atreus real intensions and wants to trick the gods 😱😱😱
loved heimdall. Yes he was a snarky douche and gives off Hermes vibes but mans was no bitch. Not to mention his hands and precog was so goated that he never gotten touched in combat. So much so that Kratos needed a spear to get an advantage to beat him. Wish he survived longer
Fuck yes exactly, fans keep dissing Heimdall. But the Ghost Of Sparta himself gave Heimdall props in his journal. I think Heimdall should have lasted till the siege of Asgard.
@@EzioAuditore O:
@@Okkotsu86275 Definitely!
Finally someone that actually know his strength he is stated also to be able to WIN against thor in combat and sindri calling him undefeated has some truths in it kratos even called that spear "Their only chance" people think he is weak because he lost but he was fighting kratos thats why.
@@Ultimate0Phantasm well I would actually say that instead of him fighting Kratos being the reason he lost, it was moreso of Kratos having a direct hard counter to his abilities. Had Kratos went in blind and even with all the rage and strength he could muster against Heimdall, he would still lose due to getting outmaneuvered and ultimately Heimdall would kill him via pure skill
I loves heimdall. Sure he’s snarky and douchy but he’s similar like Baldur in a sense , where they are both broken by cursed powers. Just like not being able to feel anything drove Baldur to madness , Heimdalls power to read minds must’ve been so awful to have. You can only see the worst in people and what they truly think down inside , and i think that would always create someone who’s distrustful and pissy. Cant help but feel bad for the guy who can read everyone’s dark thoughts and lies for centuries , really well written character and i wish he didn’t die so soon , i feel like he could’ve had some form of redemption or an upbringing like Baldur.
Except for the fact that I think he also enjoyed being like that, "untouchable". In fact, I think he and Baldur are complete opposites. With one not even wanting to live for not being able to feel anything, and the other bragging about not ever feeling pain or being in danger. When Baldur started feeling again he was even grateful for Kratos and when Heimdall was punched he was devastated that he was vulnerable and started going full on offensive mode since he was scared for his life not even using his foresight ability. So yeah in a way they are in the same league, but total opposites.
I just realize the scene where heimdall caught atreus' arrow, atreus was aiming for his head. He really wanted to unsubscribe him from asgard.
Actually i think he was more annoyed with the mud coming all over his face from that arrow lol
Something I noticed, when some character talked they say “All father will not be pleased” or “you cannot stand against all father”, but Heimdall always says “THE All-Father”
I really like Heimdall as a character. I wonder who would win between him and Baldur?
Baldur is way stronger
Baldur
Baldur bro without mistletow.
Baldur if he was still immortal would just outlast him otherwise
Heimdall powers would make him untouchable and he would win
@@4wheal Baldur is still more powerful even without his invulnerability
I think the worst part about the gods in this universe is the irony of their situations Baldur is immortal and invulnerable but doesn’t feel alive because of the lack of danger. Thor is a incredibly strong warrior who Laments his role in the pantheon who would probably be a lot happier living in peace with his family. Heimdall can see and hear everything even seeing peoples intentions and future actions and this had made him bored and cynical which ironically makes him the most predictable person in the pantheon.
@Deep Inside he really is lol
9:07 If we put this scene into context when heindall ask thor how he was going to stop him when thor said "look into my eyes and tell me" maybe this is meant to insinuate that he was going to shove the arrow up is a... Heindall does drop the arrow calling him a sick man.
31:15 that little hug between Kratos & Atreus, that type of love, seamless, just part of the fabric of how they move. That's SO hard to act out naturally. Incredible direction!
"Little shit... using my own lines on me."
“You a little trickster?”🤣🤣
It's kind of ironic that Heimdall is exactly how I imagine Loki would be like in Norse mythology.
U should've included all character interactions about Heimdall. After his death, a lot of NPC's reacted to it.
What were they saying?
I read people compare Heimdall to Hermes and other than the trash talking, I think at least Heimdall can backup his taunts.
I like how his role as Bifrost guardian and Protector of the Asgard wall plays a larger role in his ability to predetermine others moves.
As we already know the Bifrost consists of the Light of Alfheim and the Lake of Souls. The Light of Alfheim shows previous and future events of whoever goes inside. I like that lil detail and how it coincides with what he can do.
"I watch your mouth move and I see cities burning. Nothing good is going to come from you being in Asgard" is delivered with such strong emotion that I didn't notice the first time I heard it. He actually sounds distressed.
It is not often that kratos gives people a chance to walk away and save themselves. Heimdall should have took that offer, he probably would have survived Ragnarok had he not been so loyal and devoted to that one-eyed paranoid fool
On the contrary, he did it a whole lot in the original trilogy. At least 90% of the people and gods he killed were collateral damage who didn’t have the brains or good sense to mind their business or stay out of Kratos’ way, despite him giving them every chance to do so.
Might be wrong about this but i thought that Vikings actually believed that not dying on the battlefield is the greatest shame a warrior could face. Only those that died in battle could have the blessing of the gods, and be selected by Odin and his valkyries to join them in valhalla. I interpreted Heimdall's reluctance that he didn't wish to shame himself by not dying a warrior's death. That and his ego and not wanting to die by the hands of 'the half-breeds' dad.
@@wesleygriffiths8748 you are right. Even in GOW3 (arguably when the angriest Kratos ever been) he only wished to get Zeus. Helios, Poseidon, Heracles, Hera, etc, they ASKED for a fight.
@@SirBananaFunk Hera has to be the biggest example on that list, excluding Hermes. Kratos was literally walking away from her and had every intention of letting her slide, but she chose to open her mouth and talk shit.
Really hope we can see another one of your voiceover videos man, you are always very informative.
Several are on the way! This game has just kicked my ass
Cosign
@@VideoGameSophistry Ouch.
Heimdall & freyr where hands down my fav characters besides the og characters
My favorite character in Ragnarok and possibly my favorite villain in the entire series so far
I really like the "empty head" remark. Means that Kratos is purposely not thinking at all as to not give Heimdall the advantage of reading his mind. Pretty cool.
I love each and every Villain/Antagonist in the game. Freya was a good obstacle to test Kratos’s struggle for his past coming back to haunt him.
Heimdall reminds me of Baldur where they’re both blessed with abilities that made them unfamiliar with pain, it’s also how his personality stands out as an eccentric Aesir. As well as how he was the start of a possible Kratos giving into his anger.
Thor as the one that is willing to change but has been manipulated by Odin to the point where fighting his influence was futile and eventually lead to his death. As well as showing an unhealthy way to cope with grief, being a reminder of Kratos himself.
Odin being the mastermind in all of this where he never was really shaken and now we know why at the end. His charisma and how they chose to never show him doing anything as sadistic as people have told the audience, to then suddenly break it by having Odin stab a beloved character. Just everyone in this game is just so well written.
He’s actually one of the more honorable characters as he was the only thing standing between Atreus and Odin . He’s so clearly dedicated it makes me respect him , despite how much of an asshole he is . He was only trying to protect Asgard .
Heimdall is my fave in this game how he moves and acts is very suave, I'd say he earns it. LoL
Agreed
One of the best villain entrances in history. Not just gow but every game
Haimdall Kinda reminds me of Agent Smith from the Matrix, clever, cruel, far sighted and diffrent from the usual black and white personalitys and dialogues wish is allways welcomed
I can watch gameplay a million times and still be excited to play it. I've been a fan of G.O.W since the beginning. I hope they keep coming out and getting better and better.
3:37 Gotta love this moment with Heimdall doing some serious projecting of his own issues onto Loki, considering he has his own "overshadowing father figure he can never live up to." Also, Heimdall calling Loki "disrespectful, entitled, and impulsive", pot meet kettle.
But that seems to be Heimdall's biggest weakness, he's so sure he's better than everyone else because he can read intentions, and yet the one mind he never bothered to read was his own.
Heimdall is what Atreus could have been if Kratos didn't put a stop to his ego.
what’s crazy is that Heimdall is technically older than Baldur, he seemed like the youngest out of all his brothers
Right he looks to be 19 or somewhere in his early 20s
I have never hated yet loved a character more in my life. I hate how much of a bully he is, the way he treated Atreus and Thrud but his cockiness and overconfidence cannot be ignored. He’s a remarkable character and his voice acting suits him perfectly.
I like how this Heimdall is essentially what actual mythology Loki would be like, and Loki is like what actual mythology Heimdall would be like
Care to evaluate? Im a noob at mythology.
@@gpavitra85 During Ragnarok, Loki and Heimdall were meant to be rivals decided by fate. In this game however, Atreus is Heimdall while Heimdall ironically is Loki
@@TheAnimalKingdom-tq3sz ah i see
The voice actor is having so much fun
15:54 There are about 1,329,832 Draupnir copies in the cave (+1 original)! Draupnir has been in that cave for about 4104 of our years. See below for math.
Draupnir creates 8 copies of itself on every 9th day. Roughly 324 new rings appear during each of our years. This ring looks like it's about 1cm thick, and the average ring diameter for men is about 1.6cm. Accounting for material thickness, let's say each ring is (roughly) a cylinder with a radius of 1cm and a height of 1cm. This gives us a volume of 3.14 cubic centimeters. Densely packed circles (hexagonal arrangement) fill 91% of the space they occupy. Let's be charitable and say that the rings are packed fairly densely - maybe 80%, accounting for the fact that rings can intersect each other slightly and that a bunch of disc-shaped objects will most likely settle parallel to the floor. For the Z dimension, let's assume that the rings are stacked in 1.2cm-thick layers (it won't be perfect, obviously - I chose this arbitrarily). A cubic meter would contain about 21,165 rings. (~83 layers, each layer has a total area of 1000cm^2, 80% packing density = 800cm^2, 800 divided by cross-sectional area of ring (3.14cm^2) = ~255, 255 * 83 = 21,165.) The chamber appears to be fairly large, maybe 10 meters in diameter based on Sindri's size. We don't know how deep the rings are piled, but let's say that it's 2 meters. That's a total volume of ~62.8 cubic meters occupied by rings, which means that there are about 1329839 rings in the cave. However, Draupnir produces copies in increments of 8, so 1329839 % 8 = 7, which means that there are a total of 1329832 copies and 1 original in the cave. 1329832/324 new rings per year = 4104 years. Not gonna do the leap year calculation.
I agree (I do not understand)
Man's built different
I honestly did pity this guy he relied solely on his agility to read people and when that began to fail he he crumpled like paper failing to even try to adapt defaulting to flailing around with progressively more reckless attacks that only resulted in him being beaten faster. He is a bully with a fancy knife barley able to be the sum of his parts an unable to be anything more, a lot like Homelander in a way.
A very well done character.
His ability to weave attacks like that was so cool, low-key wonder if u stole his eyes you’d get his ability, like in Naruto or smth 💀
When I first met Heimdall, I completely missed taking in the view and went straight for the elevator at first. I thought Heimdall being offended was only because I didn't even take a moment to look at the view of Asgard, looks like he's an asshole either way 💀
I like how there is an option to have Loki push his luck with the eavesdropping.
From the first time I saw him to his death I have been shouting
“Fuck You Heimdall!” Every. Single. Line. That he says
Heimdall's cynical, dismissive sarcasm is legendary.😂
He's annoying but can't deny he's good at fighting
Not really. He relies too heavily on his power.
@@thebigidea9659 that power is a part of him it is not like he is using a external weapon or temporary magic
@@thebigidea9659 Yeah too bad he uses his eyes to see, also his sword to block.
He relies on them too much.
He is not good in his strategy despite his abilities. Even he can beat Thor in a fight, he is unlike Kratos who manage to beat Heimdall due to strategy.
@@thomaspynchon1868 kratos couldn't beat Heimdall without the spear, strategy wouldn't have been enough here, the spear was the key...
I get that hes supposed to be unlikable, but I just love him so much. Especially when he says such goofy stuff.
24:07
Heimdall: “Not until he leaves.”
Atreus: *Stares harder*
I just realised something, Asgard is not really guarded by a wall but more so built into the wall and situated just a little bit further down the top of the wall, so it's more of a tower guarded by a cliff face. Right?
To enter Asgard, you either needed the ability to fly or use a Warp magic to get to the top of the cliffside.
15:00 when you learn who tyr really is this line is way funnier
Directors did a great job with Heimdall's foresight. Even from that first talk between him and Atreus, he didn't know everything but was perceptive enough to know when he's lying and telling the truth.
You know, with all the Heimdall scenes I was always wondering what he saw when looking at others, except at Odin. I think at 10:48 he saw Odin's fervor to actually fully take up Atreus, something Odin didn't even technically do for Heimdall outside of work. Perhaps a fundamental sense of jealousy drove him, from here. Just a thought.
The way he kicks Gulptorr, and says "Oh well, you and me then." Made me know this guy had to die
So out of everything else he did, kicking his steed when it died was the final straw? You're a strange one, morality wise.
@@EmptyMan000 exactly. I h8 animal lovers so much. If H1tler never abused an animal then by their logic he's a good guy. 🙄
@@howboutno412 Think yall are taking it too far, no need to mention Hitler.
@@lateindevelopment believe it or not, many animalists think that Hitler wasn't so bad after all just because he liked animals
I like how tyr gets in front of sindri almost like confronting him about the ring so uncharacteristic
Heimdall reminds me of every theater kid I ever interacted with
The end.
Heimdall: you can’t stop me
Kratos: Puny God
Seems to be 99% of people think Heimdall was “scared” of Thor, when he could perfectly counter Kratos until he made a very specific weapon to counter him.
Hiemdall said “you’re a sick man” because he saw that Thor would betray everything/ruin everything.
Worst part Kratos/Atreus are the “bad guys” in these last two GOW games. Hiemdall is/was the savior. A hero with different goals than our protagonist. Same can be said about Pain/Nagato and Obito in the Naruto series.
Thank you i keep seeing this nonsense, he told Thrudd himself he isn't scared of Thor, he only left that times out of disgust and not fear, but people are too stupid or fanboy to accept the facts.
@@seanao32 real recognizes real 🍻
You're living up to your name (retarded)
Heimdall isn't a hero and kratos and atreus aren't villains from any perspective. Odin is paranoid with control issues and tried to wipe out everyone that was a threat and used the gods under his command to make that so. They didn't attack until they were attacked, same with the jotnar and most other threats to Odin. Your interpretation is moronic because the game clearly shows how villainous nearly every God in this pantheon is, and unlike the original trilogy where that was the case but kratos was clearly overdoing the violence, in this game they are both going out of their way to not harm anyone except for Heimdall, who is so irredeemably racist, violent, and arrogant that kratos can't spare him even after offering him multiple chances.
Honestly, that just makes Heimdall an idiot. Thor has killed countless droves of giants that Heimdall has shown no ability to even combat and people do realize that Thor was strong enough to battle Jormungandr and shake the World Tree so badly Jormie got sent back in time. Heimdall can dodge and weave but he doesn't have the arsenal or skillset Kratos had to beat Thor. Also he doesn't ever tell Thor to his face he is not scared of him and considering Heimdall was more than willing to backdown once Thor got serious I would imagine he know his limits and Thor is beyond them.
@@sohflipz4439 there is nothing to suggest in the original myth or the god of war games that Thor could touch Heimdall...in the myth, only Loki is said to kill Heimdall during the final stages of Ragnarok but even then Heimdall was so strong he ended up killing Loki at the same time....in the god of war game, the spear is the only weakness Heimdall has been shown to have because it's the one weapon that could overload his senses, I don't see how Mjolnir could do that or Thor with his thunder could....
That Dropnir thing is quite the gift! Something that duplicates any weapon it touches infinitely. Can you imagine the possibilities? That has to be the greatest treasure ever conceived!
He reminded me of hermes from god of war 3, but actually way cooler and less annoying
Agreed. Hermes wanted to get in Kratos' head and failed, but Heimdall really had Kratos scared he was going to get away and kill Atreus.
@@playstationarusu When?
Heimdall doesnt know Hrimthur built the wall because Hrimthur disguised as a normal person
good catch
atreus almost gave away valuable information to him
Heimdall was a dick. He suffered the same punishment as Hermes.
You hate Heimdall to the point that he becomes likable
@user-hl5zr7eu7l AGREED!
Ight I'm happy to know I'm not the only weirdo that likes Heimdall. He's everything Hermes could have been
Alternative Title:
God of War: Ragnarok - The Story of Heimdall the Loser
In all seriousness, Heimdall was portrayed really well. His callousness and devotion to Odin is unmatched; the ultimate pawn.
Nah, I think you just can’t see clearly if you call him a loser. Heim is like that friend that always warn you about having too many people around you knowing you’ll get backstabbed. Maybe you’re one of those people that also love backstabbing your “friends”.
@@thebluerock6048 It was a joke…did you even read the rest of the comment? What are you even talking about?
@@Astro986 so why you called him a pawn at the end?
@@thebluerock6048 Because he was…? I don’t think you understood what I was saying. Heimdall had his own issues, but he was just a pawn for Odin, which made him a victim as well despite his fierce loyalty.
@@Astro986 Odin out of his own mouth called Heim his most loyal ally. Why you called him a pawn?
my favorite character, but short lived, like the play boy in and then there were none.
The Heim goat, loved this guy in every scene he was in.
Heimdall at 100% HP: hehehehe look at this dood.
Heimdall at 99% HP: U WOT MATE!?!?
10:23 best part of the game
It’s satisfying to watch Heimdall on the defensive end of a fight
After Atreus fires his last arrow at Heimdall, Heimdall gets annoyed that some mud got on him implying he didn't see that coming.
Also shows that he can be subverted later on.
I love the slow motion line he does 😂😂
They really introduced him eating an apple, that got a good chuckle out of me
Can we get a petition to make in any official dictionary a picture of Heimdall used as an example for what an asshole is. Yes the word asshole should also be added in these dictionaries.
"pain..is not as bad as I remember!"
3 seconds later
"OK STOP STOP!"
Wait a minute... That moment when Heimdall says Atreus means to betray Odin and Odin turns to confront Atreus on this, Heimdall moves to the side. He has a grin that says "Oh you're going to get it NOW," but then Odin says he's joking and turns back around to where Heimdall was, expecting him to be there. If Heimdall can read minds, shouldn't he have known that Odin was just messing with the boy and thus not be smiling? Or have stayed put rather than moved? It seemed like he didn't know what Odin was going to do, which may be evidence that he can't read Odin's mind at all.
That probably true tbh 💀
He has to look at the person to read their minds. He was looking at Atreus and he could sense Atreus’ fear.
@@illuminate8321 I always figured he had to look at a person in order to read their intent, not their minds. Otherwise, he'd be vulnerable to surprise attacks from behind and that's a major flaw to his ability, and it surely would have been brought up by someone in the game. In order for him to be considered untouchable, he has to be able to read the minds of people he can't see.
Pride. He could have allowed himself to be spared so he could find and kill Atreus. He might have been able to team up with someone else to take Kratos down. But no.. Even having his arm blasted into spaghetti sauce didn't drive home the fact that he was getting owned. *"Monster"* Aren't we all?