@Huddig Equipment Review
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2022
- Today's Down & Dirty is my first official heavy equipment review. I had the opportunity to run this machine for a few weeks thanks to @huddig and Vancer, an equipment dealership out of Galesburg, IL.
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It's heart warming to see someone from America get the chance to use some modern equipment!
Cheers from Northern Sweden 😁👍🇸🇪
Thanks for the comment! To date this has been the funnest machine I have ever ran. I can't wait for the opportunity to get back in the seat of another one!
@@DieselandIron Otroligt att någon faktiskt tror på riktig utrustning. haha
I stumbled upon some videos about Huddigs about 10 to 13 years ago here on RUclips and originally thought they were an ungainly awkward looking machine. I spent a lot of time watching all of the Swedish videos I could find, not really understanding anything, but enjoyed watching just the same. I have yet to get into construction or excavation operating equipment, but have been in forestry for the past 5 and a half years in the PNW operating Finnish made Ponsse cut-to-length harvesters and forwarders, as well as a few Swedish Timberjacks and Komatsus. It really is impressive just how advanced Scandinavian equipment has been for so long and just continues to outpace almost anything else we have here in the States. It blew my mind when Caterpillar introduced their Next Gen excavators a few years ago that allows operators to change spool speeds in the screen, even button layout on the joysticks. Scandinavian CTL equipment has had those capabilities since the 90s, even going as far as capable of changing individual spool sensitivity and speed independently. I couldn't believe that that kind of functionality was not available before in construction/excavating equipment elsewhere. Even funnier how recently that tilt rotators are finally becoming more popular in the States as well, again a Swedish thing that has been around a long time
The European market is so far ahead of the American market when it comes to technology and innovation. Half of my battles in the comments from American operators are why it's dumb to worry about being more efficient. Meanwhile the European market is able to handle a job with 2 guys and one piece of equipment where an American crew would take 8 guys and 3 machines. It's crazy the difference in thought process between the two cultures.
@@DieselandIron Sometimes I wonder if part of that is because of Europe being the "old country", where they don't necessarily have space to utilize more equipment and people on a job, which has forced them to get more out of the few pieces of equipment they prefer to use. Here in the States we have so much space, its never a concern if we could do without a machine or two because there's room for it, so why not?
@@DieselandIron I also appreciate how they tend to pay more attention to control layouts and overall operator comfort. Most CTL forwarders and harvesters use the mini joysticks, similar to what is used in the Huddig Some have additional buttons on the front for your fingers, most don't. Ponsse went out of their way to design a new style of joystick for their harvester lineup that not only places everything the operator needs at his/her fingertips, but the whole joystick shape and design allows the operator to operate the machines with a natural resting hand position. Personally, those are my favorite harvesters I have ever operated. Most comfortable setup anybody has by far.
@@killstrees I think that plays a huge part in it. We haven't been forced to adapt
your in the PNW to? we are in Washington and have a couple Huddigs. Amazing machines.
It's amazing what equipment is in the industry. That's a cool piece of equipment. You have the best job ever.
I agree on all accounts! Thanks Ronnie!
Thank you for the in depth review! Been waiting on this one for a while. This is the most informative review I have seen for this equipment.
Thanks for watching!
The joystick off button is for transport mode, when the chair is not in drive or digging mode the hydraulics are switched off
Thanks for clarifying! I need to spend a month with this machine to properly understand all the in's and out's
Man I love this machine, thanks for doing an in depth review!
I'm happy to do it! This was an absolute blast
Cup holder - man totally. Somewhere you cant spill it on the buttons etc... too easily.
On my JCB I keep it in an icecream dish down the side, so it tipping and spilling aint an issue.
Industrial tyres for sure.
But hey cool unit.
Not having a tech coming out as much.... we all know what field service can cost!
Yessir been waiting for the full review & once again you & issac are doing good with the graphic design 🦾🛠
I appreciate that brother! We put a lot of love into this project.
I'm from sweden so I know exactly what you are talking about when it comes to the huddig. I have worked with it a couple of times and I can't find words on what its capable of, where you can drive with it and how many thing an operator can do with just the huddig alone. Its just thumbes up all across the bord sort of speak. And the comfort for the driver, OMFG!!
I fell in love with this machine. It is just all around awesome. Thanks for the comment!
@@DieselandIron I don't blame you if you did and Its totaly understandable. Those who havent tryed the huddig don't know what they missed out on
Looks amazing, loving your review!!!
Thanks for watching!
Great review. As for the gauges you Americans would get so much benefit if you get out of the 60s and start using metric so much easier and better
I was told we would be switching to the metric system when I was in third grade. That was almost 20 years ago. Still holding out hope....
YesSiRr!! WattA BEAST!! The Big Machine's Not BAD either!! Lol!
It was badass Phil!
Great review 👍🏻👍🏻 Best explanation on the Huddig controls I have been able to find online, and I live in Denmark neighbour to Sweden 😅
Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful. This comment means a lot coming from someone who most likely has a lot more experience with these machines than I do!
Intresting video! Would be really fun to try one of those! Review deserves more views!
This machine stole my heart. Hands down the most fun I've had in a piece of equipment. Thanks for watching!
Wow, that does look like a pretty amazing machine! I would have liked to see a bit more operating footage, and it would have been pretty sweet to see it in the tracked configuration!
If only Huddig would let me play with the tracked version....
We should have more Huddig footage coming soon!
Great review. In the new Huddig 1370 you'll get the RAM-mount in the cabin, so you can have as many cupholders you want ;-D (and holders for a tablet, smartphones etc as well) Also you'll get an new improved backhoe, more comfortable seat, double USB-outlets, improved air-condition (as you mentioned in the review). Also you can choose an diesel/electric hybrid version of the Huddig.
It sounds like I need to get myself into one of the new ones!! Huddig is talking about doing something in the future with the new machine so stay tuned!
@@DieselandIron Huddig should invite you to Sweden! :-)
Great review!
Thanks for watching!
Huddigs hydraulics are something else 👍🏻
Nice video and good that you really took the time to go trough the machine 👍👍
Thanks Simon! As a guy who runs these all the time, how did I do?
@@DieselandIron I think you did well for the relatively short time you got to run the machine 👍
I would really like to address some of your nitpicking’s some time maybe I’ll give you a call on ig some day 👍👍
@@bombardierskipatrol I'm all for it. I'd love to chat at some point
Really great coverage. If I could make 1 suggestion, showing more (relevant) b-roll of the machine working while you talk might be good for future reviews.
Thanks for the feedback brother!
@@DieselandIron Hope it helps, but definitely a really cool machine and I feel like you hit many important things people wouldn't think of. Sorry I've been arounf less. It's a consequence of you helping me finally get into the industry!
Great engineering accomplishment right there! Tiltrotators are awesome, I hope to get to run one some day. I figure I will need a week to get decent with it, but it would have to be fun. Great video!
I was just starting to get the hang of the tilt rotator by the end of the second week. I would still get my directions screwed up from time to time but I wasn't having to think about it as much. It changes the way you operate. Really awesome attachments.
@@DieselandIron I bet it does! I know a guy that does a ton of basements that has one and he does some very cool grading and backfilling with it and a grading bucket.
@@littlefinkle7757 is he based out of Washington state and does his name happen to be Robert?
@@DieselandIron no sir he is up in New Hampshire.
About switching joysticks off when youre geting out.
When the seat is in position for getting out of the cabin. The joysticks are allready locked and you dont need to use the switch.
I learned about that after I published this video. Yet another awesome feature of the machine.
I have been a Huddig operator for 15+ years. Its just an awesome machine. We now own a 1260E Cable with 2000B crane and one 1260D City. There is no end of the possibilities with these beasts.
Good review 👍 im a backhoe operator and love to see driving from the rear....
Keep it up whats next?
The ability to drive while operating the back arm makes this machine one of a kind. It was awesome. Coming up soon is a review of the FAE mulcher head, possibly the new Kobelco SK210 and SK130, and who knows where we go from there!
Would love to try the new Huddig's, the ring control for the steering is awesome, not having to switch between the Tiltrotator and the steering like on the 1160D. And yes, the loader is a bit week compared to a loader. Also as far as I know those buckets must be for the US market? Also have they removed the two pipes you see from the cab? Was great way to know when you are level, when both ends of the two pipes (inside one another) line up, the front bucket (curl) is level. And I agree, would be nice to have a button on the joystick panel to turn off the joysticks.
Also great video and great review!
Thanks for the comment Alexander! They still have the pipe level indicator you are talking about but it was out of adjustment for this bucket setup. I typically don't use those anyway for the reasons listed in the video. I appreciate the feedback brother!
Two points! That bucket is not standard for Huddig so length size and so on with the leveler doesn't fit. And Yes cup holder I have been asking for for years 😂 even the new 1370 don't have then if you don't count the extra mounted ones everybody uses.. great video! Only watched the short once before. Greeting from a Swedish Huddig owner
Thanks for the comment! I like hearing from guys that run these all day. We don't get any real exposure to these machines here in the US.
Welcome to real world. We had this machine for many years in Sweden
It's an incredible machine!
That machine is FUCKING MASSIVE!!!!
And yet you can get it almost anywhere you need to. It's crazy how easy it is to get this beast into tight spots.
@@DieselandIron You got that right.
It's similar to the FIATALLIS FT110. We used to have one. It was cool.
Looks very much like a standard backhoe based in a tractor, just with a slightly bigger front wheel?
Cool new intro Bryan. How long did it take to put that together?
I actually had someone do that for me. Motion graphics is not my forte.
The 2 man lifts option came about because the daugther to the head engineer was a gymnast and she had to train line walking but they had no trees in the area where they live so they used the two cranes to tigther a line between so she could practise and wouldn't you know, she won many gold medals too!! Scandinavia: "whatever you'll hallucinate, we'll make it happen mate"
Is this a true story?
@@DieselandIron No ;) but I wouldn't be surprise if it was, but I suggested another viewer looking for side shift function about our neighbour Denmarks Hydrema 926 which I'm almost 100% has the ability to fill the front bucket with it's own backhoe, that is true and just about as handy!
@@DieselandIron Btw, any news about future videos, perhaps showing that new electric version, I watch a clip about it I'll see if I can dig it up in your curious
@@erikbongnilsson246 I'm working with Huddig to see about getting the new hybrid out here to experiment with. Stay tuned my man!
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i got a Huddig 960 from 1988 even that is a fantastic machin. And i live in Hudiksvall...Hud dig
They are awesome machines
Really appreciate the in depth review of this great machine. The thing about the seat belt though, they should not make the belt longer, americans need to stop being fat, it costs us so much in healthcare costs all these people who think its okay to just eat too much and get fat.
Also, i think you should maybe just have a smaller bucket on it is it has a long floor, if folks want a 3.5 yrd bucket it should probably have a GP bucket instead.
I 100% agree that American's have a problem that needs to be addressed. The challenge is getting the American public to actually do that.
I was given the option of getting a GP bucket but I asked for the long floor so I could really test the "European" setup. I knew most American's would laugh and say "that'll never work" and I wanted to address that intelligently from the get go.
@@DieselandIron After watching a bunch of videos of people in Europe I am definitely of the opinion that any front end loader I would get must have a long floor bucket. I care way more about it’s ability to do cleanup work than that extra little bit of break out force. This applies to me as a landscaper, obviously this is not true if you’re running the machine in some sort of gravel pit.
Since we had such limited time I wasn't really able to get this machine into some different scenarios to test it out. We are hopefully reviewing the newest model sometime next year which means I'll definitely put it into some interesting situations.
@@DieselandIron I would love to see an in depth review of the mecalac backhoe, any chance you could get into one of those? It has a better front system then then huddig and also a side shift so I would love to hear your thoughts on it.
As of right now I don't have any contacts to reach out to on that machine. Let me do some digging and see what I can come up with.
Speaking of using the frontend loader, I'll have to quote Uncle Roger "just use feeling"
Also, the joysticks are only active when you have the seat facing the loader or the rear.
I did find that with some time I was able to get a little feel for the bucket. It was still pretty difficult not being able to see the angle of the cutting edge though. Thanks for the info on the joysticks! I didn't know that!
I think It is perfect time finally to switch to international units system 😊. Just try it's much more comfortable!
I like wasting 20 minutes converting 7 army tanks to weight in butterfly tears though....
as a old die hard operator I would love to run that thing thru its limits
That thing is insane you realize how far behind we are in America with technology lol
You hit the nail on the head. We are 20 years behind.
@@DieselandIron more like 40-50 years behind =p
@@ProfessorKalkyluss I won't argue that 🤣
I wouldn't say you're behind on tech, it's more of a resistance to change and innovation among workers and owners. If everyone wants everything to be as it was, what incentives are the for innovation? Or am I wrong?
@@AlexKall you hit the nail on the head. People here in the states don't like change. We have been doing it a certain way and it works so why mess with it? As a result we have fallen way behind.
If they would make the cab so the cab it self were on a slewing gear and could slew 300 degrees, then it would be perfect. Then it wold not have the side swing on the boom but the boom would be attached to to cab like on a excavator, or it could have side swing also why not, versatility is always good. But you would also have the turnseat so you could turn the seat 180 to operate the front. Imagen Komatsu Forest Harvesters Yellow with a front loader on, but fewer tires and a tad bigger...
I wouldn't put it past Huddig to add a crazy feature like this to their already impressive machine.
Hey man, how big do you recon this is next to a Case 580superN?
Seems like the width is the same, hows the height and lenght in person? Does this fit in places a regular backhoe does?
Thanks for the videos!
This thing is closer to a 721 loader in size. It is quite a bit bigger than a 580
@@DieselandIron fair enough, so it's taler and longer but not wider?
Seriously looking into these but I'm a good drive out of Illinois 😅
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wait until it breaks , ok for railroads with bottomless pockets give me a 1988 to 1990 JCB 3CX any day, cheers boys UK
Have you ever repaired or operated one of these units?
How about the parts support?
Parts are readily available. Huddig hasn't used many specialty parts only available through them so maintenance is not really a big issue.
13:46 what attachment is that on the front
That was a home built attachment with an additional axle and winch to get out of really wet conditions. The guys over in Sweden are magicians with these machines and you won't believe what they can take them through.
Metrics are used on many continents and countries. Inches and gallons are used by a few countries.
Metrics are for sissies you can't do real math! 😂😂
@@DieselandIron when I see fractions, I pass out 😣
does it have a thumb or pinchers?
You can get a gripper cassette on the tiltrotator or switch to a grapple tool on the tiltrotator. Thumbs don't really exist in the Nordic countries, if you didn't have a tiltrotator I'm sure they could install one but it would likely be a bit in the way between the boom and the stick.
I wish Huddig would be a bit more active, pushing this on the NA market. Get it out on more trials where people and companies can try them like you did, get RUclipsrs out there to get a week with it like they did for you. So the brand and machine gets more traction in this market. Doesn't seem like they do that though. Heard anything new regarding more time on the Huddig or has that fizzled out?
I agree 100%. I think the Huddig could make some real headway in this market if they would let more contractors get in the seat and experiment for a week or two. I love the folks over at Huddig but they seem to think the machine will sell itself if they show it off through videos and trade show exhibits. They don't realize the American market has already written this machine off because it's expensive and it looks like a backhoe. The only way you'll change minds is by getting contractors in the seat.
That being said, I'm working on getting some seat time in the new Hybrid model later this year. I'm hoping we can make that happen because I'd love to further showcase what this machine can do. Thanks for the comment!
@@DieselandIron Ouch, missed the comment. Yeah, I think it's a very bad strategy from Huddig, as you say why get this for 1,5 -3 times the price (I'm guessing, no idea) compared to a normal backhoe, it looks like a backhoe just with same size wheels (like 4CX) so that is what it's going to be compared to, so why buy what you "already have" for more money? They need to get people to understand what it can do and how it can be used, a sales pitch and sales video is going to only get you to a certain point, after that you need to get the word of mouth going to get people talking about them, that's how you get sales in my opinion. Especially for rough terrain, I think many still see it as a typical backhoe can. I get that they have primarily gone for the railway as that has been their first customers but they need to expand that a bit. And they need to develop good relationships with customers and influensers in the field, that can help showcase the machine.
I think what Engcon/Steelwrist has done in USA is the way to go, they really pushed them out there, let people use them on job sites and especially letting RUclipsrs try them out and get the word out, people are going to trust someone they follow and they know do good work rather than a sales pitch video from the manufacturers. And it was the same case there, they are really expensive attachments, why get them instead of hiring one more worker or invest in a small used machine when it doesn't bring in more $ per hour (which is the usual argument against them), they emphasised that you can do more in shorted time which brings you in more money as you can do more jobs in the same time period.
I really hope they get that one or the normal 1370 (1370T would be really nice though, not much material out there on it other than a few small videos from Huddig) out to you for a bit longer so you can really get a feel for them and do some more real work with them. I saw that Lockwood had ordered a new 1370, he seems to have been rather pleased with the used Huddig rail he bought, he was selling that 1260c(?). I saw in the comments to him saying he was selling it and posting the price that people were gobsmacked by the price and couldn't believe someone would pay that much for a backhoe, which comes back to the point you made.
@@AlexKallthe main factor is the price, even in sweden they aint very profitable, priced at around $450.000 and the hourly rate is often lower than a standard excavator.
That being said it’s the worlds best backhoe, a very thought through machine and the quality is great, but it’s a ”niche” machine, often used only for railroad or cable work.
the size of a JCB 5CX according to me
5CX is a smaller unit.
no that is not the standard coupling for huddig ore for rototilt. that is english ore american coupler.
Well...as we all know, the US is basically the center of the universe. If it's standard here then it must be standard everywhere else....😂
@@DieselandIron sorry master! I forgot. Please forgive me😭🤣
I was actually watching the hole thing just to se if you mentioned the cup holder problem because we hear alot about cup holder being a big thing in the US. Thats one thing the designers dont think about here😂
You've got the get pronounciation right. Two d:s make for a short sounding vowel in the Swedish language.
In other words the complete opposite from how you are pronouncing it today.
That being said- keep up the good work promoting a great machine!
Can you spell it phonetically? I have no idea how to properly pronounce it.
@@DieselandIron 15:07 was pretty good :)
Bro make more videos
I post once a week on Mondays. Finishing up building a house then I'm going to try to focus on creating more shorts. Thanks for watching!
Welcome to the 21. century america.
Happy to be here! This is the part where we now take credit for the idea and claim you guys are behind😂
Bi-directional drive on tractor is old technology.
You're old technology...
"nothing is in standard units" , says the man who lives in 1 of maybe 2 relevant countries world wide, that still use some imperial banana units
Look, we are American's. We are the only country in the world that is relevant and therefore everything should cater to us! 😂😂
Simple is best……👎🏽 Great video though
Thanks for the comment
"European have done this, European have done that"
You know Huddig is Swedish right?
And you know Sweden is a country IN Europe right?
You know Europe isn't a country...,
Yes to all of these statements. I'm not understanding what is upsetting you? Europeans are way ahead of the American market and since Sweden is a subset of Europe I think all of my statements apply. Are you upset that I'm not giving Sweden direct credit?
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Well, you could've at least mentioned that they are built in Sweden 😁
Especially since alot of Americans believe that Europe is just one country.
It's like a Swede saying that something built in Mexico are the same as built in USA, since both are in North America.
@@mrolsen6987 I apologize for the offense but I think you're being a bit sensitive. I would equate it to a European saying it was built in North America. I didn't give credit to another country. I gave credit to your continent. Bring your Swedish ass over here and I'll give you a nice North American handy to make you feel better. You can even credit Mexico for it if you want.
"Standard Units" lol. They could change the machine to switch between metric and imperial, or you Americans could learn to use metric just like the rest of the world.
My generation was told to wait for the glorious switch. It never happened which is why I'm stuck converting tablespoons to weight in chicken eggs... One day my European friend... One day...
Oh, you are not 20 years behind the rest of the EU anymore. So far ahead, Sweden is ahead of you.
This is true. You guys are riding a bullet train into the future.
How about you americans get with the metric system like everybody else... :)
I'm all about it. I was told we would switch when I was in 3rd grade. I'm 38 now and still waiting...