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  • Salvage Operations Plan Priorities
    What's Going on With Shipping?
    April 11, 2024
    In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - examines the Salvage Plan published by the US Army Corps of Engineers in Baltimore.
    #baltimore #baltimorebridge #dali #containerships #supplychain
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  • @brianward2250
    @brianward2250 Месяц назад +167

    Just a regular joe here. I appreciate your work. Thank you!

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  Месяц назад +14

      I appreciate that!

    • @WIP532
      @WIP532 Месяц назад +1

      I'm just a regular Joe, says Brian 🤔

  • @bradley-eblesisor
    @bradley-eblesisor Месяц назад +179

    " This is not Watergate!" I needed that laugh today. Thanks!

    • @merediths2cents
      @merediths2cents Месяц назад +14

      Imagine if on the off chance a Trump company owned this ship, all hell would be breaking loose.

    • @Ibew649lineman
      @Ibew649lineman Месяц назад +7

      Thank you for the “missing 2 minutes “
      The crash did look peculiar when playback was sped up . I do suspect it would be as hard to hack as my old mustang.

    • @coachwendy5618
      @coachwendy5618 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@merediths2cents It's owned by a Singapore company. Not likely tied to Trump who mainly deals in real estate development.

    • @ericfielding2540
      @ericfielding2540 Месяц назад +11

      It is a water gate to the port of Baltimore, but not a Watergate.

    • @guyintenn
      @guyintenn Месяц назад +7

      @@coachwendy5618 I believe they were just saying "what if" not that Trump actually owned it.

  • @psmith4491
    @psmith4491 Месяц назад +230

    Thank you for dispelling rumor, gossip and chatter with your expereince and knowledge.

    • @laurenglass4514
      @laurenglass4514 Месяц назад +7

      Well said!

    • @JasonDumke
      @JasonDumke Месяц назад

      @@laurenglass4514 Ever heard of the Stutnex virus. Guess not, because this would be childs play to a intelligence agency by comparison.

    • @nutsackmania
      @nutsackmania Месяц назад +4

      what are you usually on infowars all day

    • @JasonDumke
      @JasonDumke Месяц назад +10

      @@nutsackmania nope, just work in IT and also have owned several boats and am slightly familiar with the systems onboard. The fact that they are air gapped mean very little if an intelligence agency "state actor" were to try to cause an engine to abruptly shut down. Not saying that is what happened, but its also 10000% possible. Again Stutnex infected some insane portion of all the windows machines on the planet, the centrifuges that were targeted in Iran were also air gapped and significantly more secure as they were trying to make nukes in Iran. This assertion that we know 100% this isn't/wasn't a cyber incident is premature. In fact I am 100% certain that is currently being investigated by relevant authorities.

    • @elkabong6429
      @elkabong6429 Месяц назад +3

      @@JasonDumke I'm curious; how can a cyber attack affect devices that are "air gapped?" I could see how an errant thumb drive or similar device that was physically placed into an air-gapped machine, but doesn't air-gapped imply separation from the web? What part aren't I getting? Thanks.

  • @brucelytle1144
    @brucelytle1144 Месяц назад +95

    Everyone that has sailed for any period of time, knows that Murphy was an optimist!

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  Месяц назад +22

      Damn Murphy!

    • @davidmurphy8190
      @davidmurphy8190 Месяц назад +15

      Hey, it took me a long time to formulate those rules and promulgate them.

    • @frankteunissen6118
      @frankteunissen6118 Месяц назад +4

      @@wgowshippingcareful! This phrase was coined by Mrs Murphy. You don’t want her on your case.

  • @johnatyoutube
    @johnatyoutube Месяц назад +57

    Thank you for this fantastic summary! I live in a residential waterway community on the Patapsco just downstream from the bridge. Many people don't realize that much of the outer part of the river is residential waterway communities that fully use our waterways for swimming, fishing, crabbing, boating, watersports, and more. Our communities continue to be concerned about timelines, relaxed environmental oversight and regulation to speed up the recovery, and potential pollution from the ship.
    We've been battling the state on planned dumping of contaminated harbor dredge off our shores for almost the last year. We even got a bill into the MD legislature. But it was killed immediately after the disaster.
    The shipwreck and bridge collapse ensured that little will stop the state from doing whatever it wants now. We're part of the ecologically precious Chesapeake Bay, but you'd never know it from the way they treat our river. It's all about the money from the shipping industry.
    I'll be sharing this with our communities.

    • @The_10th_Man
      @The_10th_Man Месяц назад +5

      Call the green Democrats. Just kidding they don’t care.

    • @madmeh2929
      @madmeh2929 Месяц назад

      This gives the current Democrat governor the “green” light to dump whatever he wants wherever he wants, and the media will cover it up for him even if they have to shovel it themselves.

    • @kelturner5452
      @kelturner5452 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@The_10th_ManYou called it,they do care only about the green they're going to glean!!!!

    • @redevil7081
      @redevil7081 Месяц назад +1

      @@The_10th_ManCall Herr Trump, he’ll build you a wall…

    • @redevil7081
      @redevil7081 Месяц назад

      @@kelturner5452Call your local MAGA Nazi headquarters; they’ll sell you some Trump shoes and bibles, then you’ll have to pay attorney fees for harassment…

  • @PrenticeBoy1688
    @PrenticeBoy1688 Месяц назад +85

    We live in strange times. Rationality is extremely unpopular. You're fighting the good fight, Dr. M!

    • @jaysnively2472
      @jaysnively2472 Месяц назад +4

      "Rationality is extremely unpopular." Perfect - I'm stealing that one...

    • @PrenticeBoy1688
      @PrenticeBoy1688 Месяц назад +1

      @@jaysnively2472 Please do!

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 Месяц назад +3

      People who scream about how much they hate elites never say if it's rich people or people who know what they're talking about. I tend to find it's usually that they hate people who know what they're talking about.

    • @PrenticeBoy1688
      @PrenticeBoy1688 Месяц назад +2

      @@letsburn00 You might be right, but I'm inclined to think that people confuse thoughts with feelings, especially in very emotional situations when there's been accidental loss of life. Making important decisions in the heat of the moment is a terrible idea. I hope the media and noisome but poorly informed politicians don't champion some new legislation that makes shipping much more expensive without actually making anybody safer. I think the public, in the absence of good information, tend to support things that make them feel better regardless of the efficiency of such things.

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 Месяц назад +1

      @@PrenticeBoy1688 That's absolutely true. "The event" in 2020 had loads of people who got up in arms about medical experts. I was very confused by much of it, since I read the full reports and explanation of why recommended policy was what it was and even when the recommendation changed, it usually was due to reasons explained in the old policy "we do X because of Y, if X changes, Y may need to change." I eventually realised everyone who was confused or angry by the changes and recommendations never bothered to read the full report, they just watched a 30 seconds news segment.
      I also found that very often, people will have their feelings, then Adjust their world to match that. Even when almost all the information points one way, they will find the 1% that matches their feelings. It makes it extremely difficult to have a reasonable debate, because there is often a point where one side really is arguing and they have absolutely no reason to believe what they believe.

  • @stevejette2329
    @stevejette2329 Месяц назад +14

    10 years ago I did a simple river cleanup project. It is at the top of a tidal estuary so one could throw a stone across. The water and fish was Cal Fish and Wildlife. The river is Federal. The banks are state and the flats along the banks are city. The county would actually send me a dozen prisoners when there was a big job. But the hassles !!!

  • @jeffree9015
    @jeffree9015 Месяц назад +25

    Peter Zeihan, the man who seems super smart until he starts talking about a topic you have knowlege about yourself.

    • @Nobody-st7xh
      @Nobody-st7xh Месяц назад

      He sells copium to American Boomers so they don't have reckon with the fact that they have completely destroyed the future of this country.

    • @SSK1977FEB
      @SSK1977FEB Месяц назад

      Like newspapers (and other MSM).
      Look up "Gell-Mann Amnesia effect".

  • @jf7243
    @jf7243 Месяц назад +12

    Fascinating to see the protection around the power line poles and the complete lack of protection around the bridge piers.

  • @JustinNelsonsProjects
    @JustinNelsonsProjects Месяц назад +20

    I ran across your channel, no pun intended, right after the ever given situation. I have been subscribed and following you ever since, and I just want to express my appreciation for the factual content you put out.
    I see so many videos from other so-called news sources pointing to things like cyber attacks and all that unconfirmed nonsense. Your videos are simply 100% fact coming from someone who knows what he's talking about.
    And the fact that you bring on guests who may know more about a certain aspect like engineering and all that just adds to your credibility.
    Keep up the good work, Sal!

  • @MiniMausTruckerKee
    @MiniMausTruckerKee Месяц назад +45

    Thanks Sal for keeping us updated on the progress. I’m trucker & longshoremen in Delaware. I know how devastating this collapse has been on the community, longshoremen & truckers in Baltimore. I hope the channel can be clear soon, so the longshoremen & truckers can return to work.

  • @bradharoldson5034
    @bradharoldson5034 Месяц назад +4

    I’d never have thought that I would find such a podcast so compelling.

  • @jaymacpherson8167
    @jaymacpherson8167 Месяц назад +61

    Thank the GameMasters for not having us drink when “Dali” is said. I’m still hung over from the BobEl-youknowwho.

  • @brb__bathroom
    @brb__bathroom Месяц назад +51

    I was about to abandon the interwebs for today, then you posted something.

  • @billblank5182
    @billblank5182 Месяц назад +17

    Great presentation of how the channel is being cleared. Just a minor correction… in engineering terms the Key Bridge structure is a truss, not a trestle. A trestle normally refers to the commonly seen matrix of splayed legs and bracing built under older railroad bridges.

  • @yhfsywfit
    @yhfsywfit Месяц назад +6

    Great video Sal, as a mariner myself I appreciate the compassion you show for seafarers and dock workers. Most people just don't know anything about this facet of the world.

  • @jimw1615
    @jimw1615 Месяц назад +4

    MV Dali is aground ONLY because it has bridge structure and part of a steel reinforced concrete post sitting on her deck. With only two small compartments in the bow flooded, a lightened bow load, and the Key Bridge structure removed, the challenge will be in keeping her in place as she begins to refloat and to monitor the hull for further damage as the stresses change on it during this refloat operation.

  • @Luxnutz1
    @Luxnutz1 Месяц назад +29

    Sal being here and challenging what is being presented is so vital. As long as there are eyes on this and it's not off to the next story where mediocre practices will go on as usual unnoticed, this channel is irreplaceable. The issues just make themselves known effortlessly. Thank You

  • @sergeysmirnov1062
    @sergeysmirnov1062 Месяц назад +60

    Thanks for always doing such great work in keeping us up to date

  • @jkbrown5496
    @jkbrown5496 Месяц назад +9

    The thing to remember about channel depths and soundings on a chart is that they are for navigation so they are more accurately where the bottom is not rather than a precision depth of the sea bottom. Accuracy has improves over the last 50 years, but for shipping it is far more important to know where the bottom is "not" rather than where it is below that depth.
    They seem to have determined that they can open a narrow limited access channel with reasonable certainty that nothing will be sticking up above 35 feet.

  • @davidhormby5928
    @davidhormby5928 Месяц назад +20

    Sal:
    You need to stop saying “Trestle”. The Key Bridge is a tied arch truss; not a trestle. It consists of a back span which transitions smoothly into the main arch and back to the second back span (also refered to as a three span cantilevered truss). Some engineers might refer to the simply supported approach spans as a trestle.
    “Tied” means the roadway deck is suspended by cables below the arch. Most news analysts have not considered the tangled mess of the deck and suspenders mixed in with the truss debris.
    Most analysts also overlook the stored load in the bridge debris. When you cut a tree in the back yard, you can get surprised by a branch jumping up or down or back because it is under load. Welders cutting truss members with oxy-acetylene torches will carefully analyze each member for pre-load.
    Thanks for your work on the channel. As an engineer, I cringe every time I listen to a local newman switch from "Cat caught in a tree" stories to "structure colapse" stories.
    Dave, PE (Ret.'d)

  • @georgefoster6380
    @georgefoster6380 Месяц назад +20

    We live in the Baltimore-Washington corridor and have a 22' dual console boat that we operate out of the Magothy River. We boated to the Inner Harbor last August and went under the Key Bridge. Thankfully, we took some video while cruising under the bridge, so we have lasting video of the bridge that is no more. Sal seems to be the most trusted source right now for accurate and detailed information as to what is being done to clear the channel. Thank you, Sal. You're a great instructor. Hopefully we can cruise to the Inner Harbor again this summer but who knows.... other priorities obviously must come first.

  • @rshawiii
    @rshawiii Месяц назад +22

    ISO Containers are amazing inventions. I bought some for storage. An empty 40 high cube comes in at about 9500lbs. Can gross out at nearly 70000lbs. Can have over 400000lbs of containers stacked on it. Above the capability of most helos.

    • @k53847
      @k53847 Месяц назад +4

      The Navy CH-53 or the newer MC CH-53Ks can move empties by weight (doesn't mean they are safe loads) or even partially loaded. But fully loaded you need an actual crane.

    • @meskes4059
      @meskes4059 Месяц назад

      Was gonna say, the only helo I could seen lift a can would be a shithook. Glad to have been confirmed on this

    • @brucegabel8518
      @brucegabel8518 Месяц назад +1

      A CH-53K has a lift capacity of 36,000 lbs. A CH-47D has a lift capacity of 26,000 lbs. A S-64 Sky Crane has a lift capacity of 20,000 lbs. All can easily lift an empty container. You can find photos of shipping containers being moved by the US Army in Afghanistan.

    • @k53847
      @k53847 Месяц назад +2

      @@brucegabel8518 Weight isn't always the problem, there is also some sort stability analysis that is needed. If that has already been done then it's just power and lift point rating.
      But all things considered, I'm not sure there is any reason to not just use cranes. Any weather that causes issues for cranes probably isn't good for helos.

  • @williamspidel9349
    @williamspidel9349 Месяц назад +6

    Chief Makoi’s videos are great.

  • @WickedIntentSemi
    @WickedIntentSemi Месяц назад +14

    I tell ya what since this accident and a trucker that took the key bridge frequently I discovered and been watching this channel since this accident happened and boy am I glad I did ! 😊 now when i think shipping I think Sal! This man is hands-down the very best knowledgeable professional talking youtuber I have ever heard break down technical information in a easy to understand format!!!! I also seen Sal on the news meaning even those stations know to call the best!!! Keep shining brother again us truckers thank you for the relentless updates 🤝

    • @AllNighterHeider
      @AllNighterHeider Месяц назад +3

      Welcome to the addiction, it gets worse, but it's productive.
      Sal really was made for this work.

  • @HiwasseeRiver
    @HiwasseeRiver Месяц назад +19

    Look forward to the Ziehan reply video. That man is an free ranging yarn teller. He'll issue authoritative commentary on anything and when he speaks about my industry his facts are always about 99% wrong. This should be fun.

    • @paulrath7764
      @paulrath7764 Месяц назад +2

      Zeihan's 15 minutes of fame are over.

    • @SSK1977FEB
      @SSK1977FEB Месяц назад

      Like MSM - look up "Gell-Mann Amnesia effect" ...

  • @josephconstante1222
    @josephconstante1222 Месяц назад +8

    The same type of thing happened in New Orleans in 1996 when the MV Bright Field lost power and slammed into the Riverwalk Mall. Luckily, no one was killed and only 140 people were injured. I was a police officer at the time and was going off duty when I heard the ships horns and the call coming over the radio about a vessel slamming into the mall. From what I remember the cause of this was a faulty sensor on the engine caused it to shut down.

  • @williamlloyd3769
    @williamlloyd3769 Месяц назад +24

    Appreciate your briefing / clarification of the salvage operation. Impressive operation to clear the waterway!
    PS - interesting how Tradepoint Atlantic has already expanded its ability to receive / export trucks and automobile plus is the staging site for disassembling bridge segments for further recycling.

    • @samuelcollins1331
      @samuelcollins1331 Месяц назад +13

      I made an informal tour of Trade Point Atlantic yesterday. They are geared up, with traffic signage galore , checkpoints in place, etc. I watched a Ro/Ro ship off loading imported automobiles not far from large, tangled bridge structural elements being readied for salvage. Very impressive highly energetic endeavor for sure.

  • @billgraney
    @billgraney Месяц назад +13

    Thanks so much for sharing your expertise and experience on such an important topic.

  • @natopeacekeeper97
    @natopeacekeeper97 Месяц назад +15

    Thanks Sal for another great update! I look forward to each and every episode you post!!!

  • @4commonsense747
    @4commonsense747 Месяц назад +7

    Previous reports indicated that when it was docked there were problems with overloads tripping the power off, refrigeration and something about maintenance looking into and resolving issues, maybe not quite?
    Thanks Sal, you do the community an informative service, some of us just like to have the knowledge passed our way from a dedicated man as you.

    • @pecan11
      @pecan11 Месяц назад +1

      This isn’t terribly unusual

  • @OutlierConcepts
    @OutlierConcepts Месяц назад +3

    I think its a similar issue to the trail derailments. Issues like this happen way more frequently than the public is aware of, it's just when the big ones happen, they suddenly start looking for alternate causes. Like you said its very precarious, and people don't understand/don't want to acknowledge that.

  • @george2113
    @george2113 Месяц назад +4

    Thanks Sal for keeping us in the loop

  • @guardrailbiter
    @guardrailbiter Месяц назад +2

    I have great respect for Sal Mercogliano and I love this channel.
    That being said, it is worth pointing out that every instance in which he said _trestle,_ he should have said _truss._
    A minor quibble, sure. It didn't stop me from giving a thumbs up and I'll remain a loyal subscriber.

  • @vipermad358
    @vipermad358 Месяц назад +24

    Than for turning me on to Chief Makoi!

  • @peterlv68
    @peterlv68 Месяц назад +15

    Great visuals, thanks for the explanation
    I initially was wondering what a pillar was, those are called piers.

    • @somethingelsehere8089
      @somethingelsehere8089 Месяц назад +1

      Along with sections of truss, as opposed to trestle?

    • @peterlv68
      @peterlv68 Месяц назад

      @@somethingelsehere8089 Yeah, if someone else hadn't already mentioned it in a comment, I would've.

  • @Ed-ip2sg
    @Ed-ip2sg Месяц назад +4

    Thanks again. Great to hear from someone who actually knows what he’s talking about

  • @timothymattson3680
    @timothymattson3680 Месяц назад +2

    Thanx for update and debunk .
    The cartoon video by Navy just needed a Highway/ Bridge Sandwich to show the layered mess . It was a hanging bridge with Steel Arch above , and below the Concrete highway that will also have those cables to mesh it in a bad way .
    My family bid on some rigging work for the Floating I/90 bridge that sunk on
    Lake Washington in 80s .
    We got deep water videos showing the
    Concrete Blocks each cable had going to it ,
    Trouble was , there were 2 bridges with 300’ deep water in middle and cables went under the other remaining bridge and many were wiped out as older bridge went down .
    They used Tugs idling to counter wind and waves while rigging was restored.
    I remember seeing big fresh water lingcod or Burbot on each block in the black white video.
    I think the shallow of this river will keep cleanup to about a year, but lightening the ship bow to get it dockside for final container offload with that idle port involved .
    Sorry to the families going to have to await lots of debris removal.

  • @williambarry8015
    @williambarry8015 Месяц назад +16

    Sal, Thanks for being trustworthy.

  • @W.F.Fischer
    @W.F.Fischer Месяц назад +8

    Thanks for the update. Greetings from old Germany 🇩🇪

  • @Ana_Mystik
    @Ana_Mystik Месяц назад +3

    Thank you.
    I only just found your channel and you are my new favourite channel.
    Thank you sooo much.
    I love your shirts too, you rock dude.
    Love out to you and everyone from Glastonbury UK 🇬🇧 ❤️

  • @johnnield2389
    @johnnield2389 Месяц назад +1

    After this incident took place, I was immediately in search of reputable information concerning the cleaning up of the channel and the rebuilding of the bridge. Knowing nothing about maritime activities, I went to my favorite source of reporting. That is the Blanco Lirio channel with Jaun Brown. he immediately put forth your name, and RUclips channel. thank the Lord, for truthful and factual, reporting!

  • @doggonedone2479
    @doggonedone2479 Месяц назад +6

    Sal - Thanks for keeping us current in the informative and succinct way only you could. BTW I think you mean "Truss" when you are describing the bridge steel superstructure supporting the horizontal roadway. You could say the Trestle is what got knocked over by Dali and the Piers are what the Trestles were sitting on.

    • @danmenes3143
      @danmenes3143 Месяц назад +1

      What I heard was "trustle," which I don't think is a word, but it should be.

    • @doggonedone2479
      @doggonedone2479 Месяц назад

      @@danmenes3143 HaHa! Trestle, Trustle hey who's counting.🤣

  • @celiawaddell4526
    @celiawaddell4526 Месяц назад +3

    Thank you for reviewing that video with us. If only the bridge deck could go away by editing. lol.

  • @serversurfer6169
    @serversurfer6169 Месяц назад +1

    7:00 I agree, it seems like the animator got confused. It looks like there's 15' of rubble on the bottom of a 50' channel, and they're going to make a 280' gap in the trusses for small ships to pass over the rubble. Then after the Dali is cleared, they can clear out the rubble and make the channel 50' deep again. 👍

  • @fcbrants
    @fcbrants Месяц назад

    Very informative update, thank you!! Chief MAKOi's analysis of a ship's engine room is another excellent resource.

  • @13699111
    @13699111 Месяц назад +4

    Thank you for posting all the informative updates

  • @charlesrussell7472
    @charlesrussell7472 Месяц назад +3

    Trained with MEBA as a third, in the early eighties, assistant but didn’t stay in the trade. Three of the sips I sailed on were WWII vintage steam ships. Newest was an eight year old steam container ship. Lost power at least three times. Lost steam pressure twice. Luckily they both happened dockside. Almost had a head on collision in the channel entering New York in the fog. No engineers alarm on that ship and I slept through the boiler safeties lifting on full astern emergency bell. Steam safety substituted as an engineering alarm bell. Only had a stateroom alarm on one ship. Always wondered what life would have been like if I could have stuck with it.

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown Месяц назад +2

    Wonderful content....cheers from Florida ....Paul

  • @Kyzyl_Tuva
    @Kyzyl_Tuva Месяц назад +1

    Your updates are great Sal. Thank you.

  • @OneWildTurkey
    @OneWildTurkey Месяц назад +4

    Has there been any word about someone doing an internal inspection of the gas line under the bow?
    There have been cases where a line is ruptured but not leaking until after the item crushing into it is removed.
    That could make a real mess. Especially if they don't have the Dali fully disengaged when she's moved.

  • @strykenine7902
    @strykenine7902 Месяц назад +3

    Can't wait for your take on whatever Peter is saying. He's always good for a yuk.

  • @mikefochtman7164
    @mikefochtman7164 Месяц назад +2

    Yes, worked in a different industry but we also collected data from around the plant. Computer/ recording system had UPS for power, but almost all the transmitters, signal conditioners, and other inputs were not. Lose a power board somewhere in the plant and all the inputs from that line is lost. Not some nasty conspiracy or such, just how the equipment is laid out and works. (and yeah, you COULD put all those instruments on several more UPS installed all over the place, but $$$ versus a rare event and $$$ often wins)

  • @dewiz9596
    @dewiz9596 Месяц назад +1

    Dude! You’re just such a great source of information. . . and more trustworthy day by day, as I see the consistency of your videos

  • @sthomas6369
    @sthomas6369 Месяц назад +11

    Truss, not "trestle". I have driven through Baltimore several times since the collision/collapse, if you're used to seeing the bridge out there, it's shocking and truly remarkable to see in person.
    From what I could see, the large truss in the channel on the North pier was removed in the last week.

  • @krispypriest5116
    @krispypriest5116 Месяц назад +2

    Thanks Sal!!!
    Just a comment to help the algorithm!!!
    Peace.

  • @TheMan-yj6es
    @TheMan-yj6es Месяц назад +2

    This guy knows his stuff

  • @kapekodbob
    @kapekodbob Месяц назад +2

    Another thing to consider is dock workers that are not going to sit aroind waiting. Some will seek employment elsewhere unless they are kept working repairing/maintaining equipment . If they are sent home you may not get them back.

  • @lisashiela9137
    @lisashiela9137 Месяц назад +6

    US Army Corps of Engineers, the same folks who re-plumbed the everglades and then designed the disastrous New Orleans levee, I can't wait to see what's in store for Baltimore.

  • @lescoombes4850
    @lescoombes4850 Месяц назад

    I find you explain what is going on so clear and easy to understand. Thank you

  • @Seahawk72s
    @Seahawk72s Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for a very detailed and clearly explained report. You took the time and covered all the bases, certainly one of your best shows.

  • @margarethorrall8621
    @margarethorrall8621 Месяц назад +6

    The internet has been hilarious and exasperating on this. I've been called names for saying that there's no evidence that the wreck was intentional. I've been scoffed at for pointing out that even though the bridge is in Baltimore, it's not Baltimore's bridge. I've been derided for saying this isn't an example of crumbling infrastructure. Something about the internet encourages people to get stupid about conspiracy theories.

    • @SSK1977FEB
      @SSK1977FEB Месяц назад

      How did the poweroutage make the ship change course ?
      Was the bow trusters running to keep it on course ?

    • @margarethorrall8621
      @margarethorrall8621 Месяц назад

      @@SSK1977FEB When a ship or boat loses headway, it is said to "drift". "Drifting" means moving with the current and a container ship has a whole lot of resistance to provide to a current. The ship didn't "change course" it was pushed off course by the current. That's been widely reported though perhaps not on facebook.

  • @sdavrider
    @sdavrider Месяц назад +9

    2:50. Truss, not trestle.

  • @danapeck5382
    @danapeck5382 Месяц назад

    Thanks. From SpaceX to maritime, always comes down to crane operators. Amazing we can't seem to bring ourselves to acknowledge we need foreign cranes. All the best

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown Месяц назад +1

    Thank You Sal, cheers from Florida ...Paul

  • @sec808
    @sec808 Месяц назад +8

    Every time you say to remove the bridge from the ship I think "why remove the deckhouse?" then remember which type of "bridge" you are talking about 🤣🤣🤣

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  Месяц назад +1

      😂

    • @ImieNazwiskoOK
      @ImieNazwiskoOK Месяц назад

      Since power is on and crew is still on board, their bridge still remains operational

  • @jamesalles139
    @jamesalles139 Месяц назад +5

    Duplicated from from the USS Iowa channel
    Please to clarify the loaded cargo
    1. Stated capacity is 10,000 TEUs, TEU being Twenty-foot Equivalent units. A forty-foot container would be 2 TEUs
    2. published and repeated statement that the ship had 4,679 units on board.
    Some think that means the ship was less than 50% loaded.
    I believe that there was a 4,679 container count of various dimensions and an undefined quantity of TEUs
    I did a reality check on the words, and looked at the pictures.
    I make 2 assumptions
    1. The holds are NOT nearly empty, but are mostly full, otherwise the center of gravity shift would make things dangerously unstable.
    2. The containers can't be stacked higher than the ship's bridge
    So from my perspective, the ship was loaded to about 90% capacity.
    can this be clarified, please?
    thanks for the video

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  Месяц назад +3

      There are 4,679 containers on board - a mix of TEU and FEUs. So she is nearly full above and below deck with a mix of boxes. Assume that about 1/3 of them are empty.

    • @jamesalles139
      @jamesalles139 Месяц назад +3

      @@wgowshipping Thanks! Yup, guessing at the tonnage is above my pay grade! Thanks for the rule of thumb.
      Also, I was quite surprised to learn that an empty 40' container might weigh 2 tons. Thanks for addressing that in the video.

    • @SteamCrane
      @SteamCrane Месяц назад

      Yup, 10,000 TEUs is 5,000 FEUs. Looks like there is a fair number of 20s, mostly 40s.

  • @IanMaschal
    @IanMaschal Месяц назад

    Thanks for the full screen presentation sir.

  • @Joanzak52
    @Joanzak52 Месяц назад

    I love your channel. It actually tells me what is happening with this bridge. Thank you!

  • @jamieo8653
    @jamieo8653 Месяц назад +3

    Don’t sugar coat Sal! Is there a problem Houston? My God, my heart goes out to the 6 victims of this incident but we know evolution could have been much worse. Similar issues exist throughout the USA’s transportation network whether ship, rail, auto and air but who is the decision makers? Thank you Sal!🇺🇸

  • @mikethelakesidelogger8757
    @mikethelakesidelogger8757 Месяц назад +5

    Helicopter could used for removing containers. Quick but expensive. Less restrictive in the wind than cranes. Both the heavy lift Chinook and the Sikorsky S64 easily lift over twenty thousand pounds so empty ones would be no problem. Used them for heli logging is my experience.
    I appreciate your time and learn a bunch from every show. Well done.

    • @mattywho8485
      @mattywho8485 Месяц назад

      Yeah, empty 40' containers only weigh 8,000 ish pounds, so a sky crane can easily pick one up, even two for that matter.

    • @andrewsnow7386
      @andrewsnow7386 Месяц назад +7

      But what is the advantage? Multiple cranes (at least 2) could be used simultaneously at the front of the ship. I don't think you could safely do this with helicopters. Rigging the containers has to be easier under a crane than under the downwash of a helicopter. You say the the helicopter would be less restrictive in winds? This seems counter intuitive. Anyway, with the huge overcapacity of the crane they are using, I suspect any wind restrictions have more to do with the safety of the rigging crew than that of the crane and this concern would be the same with a helicopter. And a big crane like that has some real advantages over ta helicopter. For example, if there are any concerns about the integrity of a damaged container, the crane can lift inch by inch and see if anything goes wrong. In contrast, a helicopter would be increasing the force until something moves. If, say, the bottom fell out of a container, the crane would barely move. A helicopter on the other had would shoot upwards at the loss of weight.
      In short, to me the crane seems safer and faster.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS Месяц назад +3

      Too dangerous, too expensive.

  • @parkerholden7140
    @parkerholden7140 Месяц назад +2

    Nice to see the NSTB focusing on the electrical system. Unstable load sharing on parallel generators appears to be the root cause of the episode. Rent a Crew is common in Europe. Crew skills are all over the map.

  • @johnland5042
    @johnland5042 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks again Sal for this important update. Top notch job as usual.

  • @Harry_Gurvich
    @Harry_Gurvich Месяц назад +4

    This is the presentation graphics by our Army Corps of Engineers? In year 2024? Seriously?

  • @robertbeck4748
    @robertbeck4748 Месяц назад +10

    Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion lifts 36000 lbs
    Erickson s-64 air crane lifts 25000 lbs
    Russian mil mi 26 lifting capacity 44,000 lb
    The maximum weight for a standard loaded 40-ft container is 67,200 lb.

    • @alanstevens1296
      @alanstevens1296 Месяц назад +4

      Each bridge beam weighs many times that.
      Forget helicopters.

  • @keithmottram8755
    @keithmottram8755 Месяц назад +1

    Hi Sal, interesting that you talk about the factionalised management of your ports. Here in NSW, Australia, there is an authority for the port that controls everything in the port. Once you enter the security area of the port in Sydney ( Botany Bay), you are under control of the Sydney Ports Authority, including the water. Not sure what happens in other states, but expect it is similar. While companies including Patricks contract to load and unload, they still abide by Sydney Ports Authority rules. We do have bulk liquids berths (LPG, fuel, anything flammable) managed by a subset of the Authority, they are still Authority employees, with the berths having an extra degree of security. Maybe your guys should come to Oz to see how it works. Oh, wait, too many egos to be able to consolidate all your authorities into one. Fortunately, we do not have a Coast Guard to argue with. All our offshore rescues are carried out by the Royal Australian Navy or government sponsored rescue choppers. Would be interested in your thoughts. Love your work, I have learnt a lot from you.

  • @user-df8zj2ov2s
    @user-df8zj2ov2s Месяц назад

    Doctor Sal, you are the best! Another great video! Thank you Sir!

  • @kenosabi
    @kenosabi Месяц назад +3

    No one with a brain is debating it was the loss of power. The debate is in why power was lost and why the 2 most vital minutes of collision weren't recorded.

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  Месяц назад +3

      Again, there is nothing to record when the ship losses power. They will recover the data from the engine computers.

    • @danfarris135
      @danfarris135 Месяц назад +3

      Pay attention. He explained it in the video if you watched it. But to help you out, the recorder has its own battery powered system and Was working. But with the rest of the ships power system down there isn’t any data to record from all the outputs.

  • @Mehranwahid
    @Mehranwahid Месяц назад

    Great job as usual Sal - thank you so much!

  • @bobwallace6812
    @bobwallace6812 Месяц назад

    Great video. Thanks for the interesting info.
    What a long long time we will have ahead of us all.

  • @michaelmeehan9083
    @michaelmeehan9083 Месяц назад

    Sal, thanks for your honest and realistic assessments of the situation in Baltimore, and your advocacy for overall port security and risk assessment.

  • @robert_starling
    @robert_starling Месяц назад

    Thanks for breaking all this down for us!

  • @petegarcia6408
    @petegarcia6408 Месяц назад

    Thank you for the detailed update!

  • @martincraven3835
    @martincraven3835 Месяц назад

    Good morning Sal from the UK, Absolutely spot on analysis. Your open minded constructive comments are very informative and refreshing. I understand that some folks out there are concerned about the who is commanding the clear up and salvaging exercise, I think that what has been achieved in the last few weeks demonstrates the fantastic efforts made by all who are currently working around the clock to get Baltimore back on its feet, they are definitely doing the correct thing. Great leadership and superb work ethic!
    You made some great comments regarding how Baltimore and the port infrastructure should focus there attention on what needs to be addressed in the future. I fully support what you say, although the investigation is not conclusive at this time I believe that the Dali unfortunately lost power at the wrong time, and given the position that she was heading and the available time that she had, IMHO for what it is worth, that the collision was unavoidable.
    Lastly I would just like to add that like me, you are very mindful of the fact that someones love ones are still to be recovered from the channel that they still have to clear. My thoughts and prayers are with the relatives.
    I believe that Baltimore port operations will be resumed fairly quickly, once the debris is removed the channel and ship, the Dali can have its mass reduced from the removal of its containers, then it may be possible to re-float her, which could be expedited through the use of Airbags and Tugs.

  • @ferdburful6352
    @ferdburful6352 Месяц назад

    Very good reporting. Thank you.

  • @alivdee9946
    @alivdee9946 Месяц назад +1

    That one comment "This isn't watergate" did it for me ;)

  • @FrederickRH1
    @FrederickRH1 Месяц назад

    Great reporting. Thanks for sharing all of this with us landlubbers.

  • @user-rn5ks8sf5x
    @user-rn5ks8sf5x Месяц назад

    Great coverage. Thanks.

  • @davidwilliams1086
    @davidwilliams1086 Месяц назад

    Shared with a friend and he really liked your podcasts. Joined too.

  • @greg1516
    @greg1516 Месяц назад

    Your videos have been very informative. Thank you

  • @micheldaubigne7629
    @micheldaubigne7629 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you so much for another very detailed and informative production Dr. Mercogliano. I Assumed the ship was down by the head considering the way her starboard side sheered the Pile but you cleared that issue up quite nicely noting her sterns downward pitch / draft is almost entirely to the bottom . Thank you again for all your hard work. ~M

  • @chris8612
    @chris8612 Месяц назад +2

    Can't wait for the Zhan reply. Btw thanks for your deep exploration of this issue.

  • @raitchison
    @raitchison Месяц назад

    Yesterday I listened to part 1 of the USS Iowa podcast.
    Great content, can't wait for part 2.

  • @tomdewey9690
    @tomdewey9690 Месяц назад +1

    I can't wait to see the video with you and Peter. 2 of my favorite RUclipsrs. I've learned so much from you both.

    • @shawnkennedy855
      @shawnkennedy855 Месяц назад +4

      Wow,so somebody actually takes Peter seriously?

  • @timothystevenhoward
    @timothystevenhoward Месяц назад +1

    When the first reporters started talking about the black box and data recorder i knew this would be a challenge. A lot of people need to learn about shipping out there. This should be a wake up call.

  • @donalddodson7365
    @donalddodson7365 Месяц назад

    Well done, as always. Thank you.

  • @btsr2553
    @btsr2553 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you 🙏 so much dear Sal, another great video from you. Even as a non-native English speaker, I can really follow you. I find it totally exciting and super well explained. I could listen to you for hours 👂 👂 . Furthermore, it is also interesting for me here beyond the big puddle how these problems are tackled and solved, and how this is already being done courageously. Keep up the good work, please. A heartfelt "Servus" from Bavaria.
    P.S.: @15:22 „This is not Watergate!“ 😂 Sal, you made my day!

  • @stephanieparker1250
    @stephanieparker1250 Месяц назад

    Thanks, Sal! An eye opening video for sure.. 🤔👍

  • @signorpippistrello
    @signorpippistrello Месяц назад

    Thank you Sal! I thought ”Cmon Baltimore again?“ and of course it was again a great breakdown of the situation and highly informative!

  • @EvolvingwithEtta
    @EvolvingwithEtta Месяц назад

    Very thorough update. Thank you for showing true and detailed factual information.