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  • Over the Shore To Gaza!
    What's Going on With Shipping?
    May 10, 2024
    In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - discusses the Joint Logistics Over the Shore Operation preparing to start over the beach in Gaza.
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  • @MADHIKER777
    @MADHIKER777 25 дней назад +156

    The more views, the more educated citizenery we have! Thanks Sal!

    • @WhiteWolf65
      @WhiteWolf65 25 дней назад +2

      Over 95 kms from Ashdod port to the Rafah checkpoint, crossing into Gaza at the Kerem Shalom point. If Egypt let them use the Egyptian side and enter Rafah there, the convoys would be better protected, as they would have to be attacked within Egyptian territory for that last distance (about 3.25 km) I doubt HAMAS would want to do that.
      Big question is: will HAMAS dare to attack the ships and men on the pier/connectors/ships, aka, foreign non-combatants?
      That would bring them to a war footing with the US as well, and that is a BIG OUCH!

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 24 дня назад

      @@WhiteWolf65 If "BIG OUCH" were an effective deterrent HAMAS wouldn't have attacked Israel.

    • @hayleyxyz
      @hayleyxyz 24 дня назад

      ​@@WhiteWolf65 Hamas is a death cult, but they aren't totally brainless. Their beef is mainly with Israel, and attacking US soldiers while Israel is increasingly isolated internationally would not further their goals.

    • @tinaforbes1059
      @tinaforbes1059 24 дня назад

      No American troops on the ground eh ? Bloody liars .

    • @soyoucametosee7860
      @soyoucametosee7860 23 дня назад +4

      ​@@WhiteWolf65the question is will the USS Liberty be remembered???
      Fairly certain it was not Hamas that attacked the USS Liberty.

  • @rjm9430
    @rjm9430 25 дней назад +116

    I was once the CMC for ACB1. The RRDF (Roll On/Roll Off Discharge Facility) is what you're calling an "offshore pier". The INLS is the basis of the Navy and Army's system, pier or causeway, the SLWTs (pronounced Sluts),is just one of two powered lighterage used. This is an enormously complex logistics effort, a stupidly inefficient method to get throughput ashore. When the administration said "no boots on ground" I knew that was a lie.
    The effort to get all this back to the US will be every bit as daunting as getting it there.
    I can't believe anyone thought this was a good idea. Seastate 3+ is the systems designed maximum operating environment. These are not in production, they were all built in the same yard that built one of the LCS systems.

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  25 дней назад +37

      I try to avoid all the acronyms as it gets confusing for those not in the know. Thanks for the comments!

    • @sgtborg1
      @sgtborg1 25 дней назад +7

      Did a jlots mission off of the Ben v miss doing that stuff when I was in the army good times. Us army can’t move without transportation

    • @kimmacdonald1678
      @kimmacdonald1678 25 дней назад

      This is the USA they have unlimited military power/money. They are also doing this as a training mission for a real war.
      The two big wars right now are like a wet dream for USA, massively profitable, weakening the enemy daily, gaining intel for if we ever actually have to get involved. Doing all this while loosing 0 American lives is definitely the picture perfect wet dream for USA.

    • @Lucysdad66
      @Lucysdad66 25 дней назад +11

      I use to be a LZ on anl doing smgs for my msi and the co got mad and told the sdo I was rasn and I almost got a bln for doing my mso go figure..

    • @leewahler3058
      @leewahler3058 25 дней назад +6

      CMC Good you point to correct terms

  • @RichardGeiszler
    @RichardGeiszler 25 дней назад +74

    Will point out this was a way for the U.S. to become involved with providing aid without "boots on the ground." It's political, thus by nature, not efficient.

    • @something86783
      @something86783 24 дня назад +7

      The fact that we live in a country where someone, an much less some of the highest ranking public officials, claim that this is not boots on the ground is really depressing. It's so profoundly manipulative and disrespectful at best, and if its not those it's an offensive level of stupidity.

    • @davewade30
      @davewade30 24 дня назад

      I think it's an excuse to put US troops in harms way so once they are killed those deaths can be used as justification for further US involvement. Building this in an active war zone is a terribly stupid idea.

    • @RichardGeiszler
      @RichardGeiszler 24 дня назад +3

      @@something86783 To clarify, I understand this is rubbish. If the enemy is within range, so are you.
      The White House should have issued Star Trek red shirts to the people ordered their.

    • @Khronogi
      @Khronogi 24 дня назад +3

      Tbf, if one does anything it's political. If one does anything un regards to this crisis it's very political.

    • @pairojeans
      @pairojeans 22 дня назад

      America literally supporting terrorism.

  • @bradfry3246
    @bradfry3246 24 дня назад +28

    As a mainer who gave a year of my life to Sealift Command as an AB unlimited and Third Mate alt I pray these men and women (some are grandmothers) stay safe and above all secure.

    • @opera93
      @opera93 24 дня назад

      Thanks,for your Service…interestingly, We finally maybe to, the point of “ALL PEOPLE” serving , Hoping…! ( all skin colors, GLBTQ,ETHNIC, EYE Folds ( Oriental “ races”), ad infinitum……).

  • @furiousgeorge4114
    @furiousgeorge4114 25 дней назад +42

    This analysis is fantastic.
    Sal, you have become my first source for shipping news.
    Shout out to Chief MAKOi.
    I suddenly have a desire to become a merchant mariner.

    • @pairojeans
      @pairojeans 22 дня назад

      America literally supporting terrorism.

  • @stitcherlives
    @stitcherlives 25 дней назад +28

    I think this is less about efficiency of getting cargo into Gaza and more about being able to control a point of access into Gaza. While Israel is still inspecting cargo, that process is already happening and once you have it cleared it is then completely up to the JLOTS operation to move it in. Israel has been stymying aid deliveries, this is the US's way of proving to the world it wants aid in Gaza and is willing to take a unilateral approach. Highly inefficient though, I agree. I also agree this highlights a need to update and upgrade these systems.
    All the best, love the channel

    • @petergerdes1094
      @petergerdes1094 25 дней назад +5

      That is my sense too, but I'm surprised the US has this issue.
      I understand why the IDF doesn't trust UN aid deliveries and may fear they will smuggle in weapons but they are allowing the US to ship in these shipments so why wouldn't they just agree to let in trucks provided they are taken to the crossing by US military personnel (or is at an issue about trust of contractors).
      Something seems odd.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 24 дня назад +6

      @@petergerdes1094 The OP said, " Israel is still inspecting cargo". It certainly seemed like he was referring to THIS cargo. Whether that's true or not I don't know.
      (And if I were Israeli I certainly wouldn't trust the US to not ship weapons or dual use materiel to HAMAS. The US arming both sides isn't exactly unknown to happen.)

    • @petergerdes1094
      @petergerdes1094 24 дня назад

      @@gandydancer9710 The IDF may not want to trust the US but they *are* trusting the us either way since they don't get to inspect our over the shore deliveries. So why allow that but not unloading in port?

    • @2uksteve
      @2uksteve 24 дня назад +5

      As I understand it, Israeli personnel are in Cyprus inspecting/clearing all cargo before it's loaded for the transit to JLOTS.

    • @petergerdes1094
      @petergerdes1094 24 дня назад +3

      @@2uksteve Ok but then why not still do that and let it go through the normal port?

  • @NolanPeterson-rh1cd
    @NolanPeterson-rh1cd 25 дней назад +25

    I was on the BOB HOPE last year off the coast of North Australia during talisman saber when the army attempted to perform a JLOTS operation it was calm weather the day we arrived. For the next month it was nothing but wind and a higher sea state...... towards the end they did a partial operation with it but it had glaring weaknesses with the high sea state. I felt sorry for the army guys down on the barges trying to get them to come together it looked so dangerous with waves coming over them. I do not think anyone has spent a long hard think on getting hardware places ever since wars in the middle east had taken priority. Lets hope the folks in Washington take a long hard look at sealift and the current fleet

    • @Khronogi
      @Khronogi 24 дня назад +1

      Growth mindset says mistakes are needed for better solutions. If there are complications with this, it's good that we see them now than when we actively need them for ourselves eh?

    • @DieFlabbergast
      @DieFlabbergast 21 день назад +1

      Gaza is on the Mediterranean, at the southeast corner. Rough seas are highly unlikely.

    • @CoffeeAndPaul
      @CoffeeAndPaul 19 дней назад

      Ain't no way the Military Sealift Command is going to risk putting large vessels just offshore of the West Bank. That's asking for a Katyusha.

  • @n6mz
    @n6mz 25 дней назад +54

    Dr Sal -- national treasure!

  • @joeshores5945
    @joeshores5945 24 дня назад +4

    It's past time to save these Innocent People

  • @range_rover-landp38
    @range_rover-landp38 25 дней назад +31

    RFA Cardigan Bay is also involved in this.

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  25 дней назад +24

      Damn...you are correct and I forgot to add them. My apologies to my British and RFA brethren.

    • @pairojeans
      @pairojeans 22 дня назад

      America and UK literally supporting terrorism.

  • @user-xz9hu4rd2v
    @user-xz9hu4rd2v 24 дня назад +67

    Operation 'Try To Get Reelected'.

    • @thelonecabbage7834
      @thelonecabbage7834 23 дня назад +6

      How dare a President do what the majority of the country wants? Absolutely unacceptable..

    • @chaosXP3RT
      @chaosXP3RT 23 дня назад +8

      Better than the alternative. Trump would just keep sending our money to Israel

    • @brettscott7574
      @brettscott7574 22 дня назад

      Lol so if Dems want the war to stop and the GOP wants it to continue and it looks like it's continuing but the Dems are the majority 😂... Logic has left the chat.... Free rent in largely vacant space...

    • @FP194
      @FP194 22 дня назад +3

      @@thelonecabbage7834
      What majority

    • @thelonecabbage7834
      @thelonecabbage7834 22 дня назад +2

      @@FP194 Are you implying that he's trying to get elected by pleasing the minority?

  • @balljointfd3s
    @balljointfd3s 25 дней назад +94

    Operation Sitting Duck

    • @rogerd777
      @rogerd777 24 дня назад +7

      Sad to say.

    • @kurtwicklund8901
      @kurtwicklund8901 24 дня назад +5

      What motive does any regional actor have to attack it?

    • @artt3165
      @artt3165 24 дня назад

      @@kurtwicklund8901 ,
      You realize Hamas and Iran don't really need to "explain" other than they are against the "Great Satan" (USA), right?
      I'm not going to be surprised when the shelling starts and Hamas somehow blames Israel. Kinda been the MO for 40 years

    • @phlogistanjones2722
      @phlogistanjones2722 24 дня назад +10

      @@kurtwicklund8901 The mind boggles at your grotesquely naïve comments.

    • @ajc5479
      @ajc5479 24 дня назад +5

      @@phlogistanjones2722 Why don't you answer the question genius

  • @Comm0ut
    @Comm0ut 25 дней назад +56

    The purpose of the mission is a political gesture, but also useful to highlight lack of US naval preparedness. Efficiency is completely secondary.
    Washington is pretending to care about Palestinians to offer plausible deniability to our frenemies (who don't care about them either and certainly aren't insane enough to import them).
    The show of expensive activity will likely serve its purpose. Meanwhile Israel can finish its punitive constabulary mission in Rafah. The important part from a US military perspective
    is to show (the public feel, they do not think) US capability is constrained by decades of neglect and that our Navy desperately needs a collective overhaul before war breaks out over Taiwan.
    Beijing is watching and will see how UNprepared the US is even for a small feelgood mission. The CCP will watch and learn.

    • @trespire
      @trespire 24 дня назад +4

      This could play into Beijings "3 front" plan, to occupy the US on 3 fronts.
      Hope US top brass are not too blind to see this.

    • @bnuttsgee
      @bnuttsgee 24 дня назад +1

      Lack of preparedness how?

    • @SpringIsBACK
      @SpringIsBACK 24 дня назад +2

      @@bnuttsgee Did you even listen to Sal? This is basically our entire capacity to do such logistics. And we are risking it when better alternatives are available.

    • @Khronogi
      @Khronogi 24 дня назад

      ​@@SpringIsBACKwhat are the better alternatives that everyone is referencing?

    • @GonzoT38
      @GonzoT38 24 дня назад +1

      @@Khronogi they mean driving the aid into trucks per the old status quo, which is what Israel is denying access to in their present ethnic cleansing campaign. There's no particular difficulty in recognizing the amount of tonnage that can be delivered via truck vis a vis these symbolic gestures like the floating pier or airdrop.

  • @beedonn9260
    @beedonn9260 25 дней назад +20

    Not a problem professor, you're a very informative guy and we enjoy your channel thank you

  • @kitsune303
    @kitsune303 25 дней назад +70

    Politicians ruin everything.

    • @scottp.5161
      @scottp.5161 24 дня назад +4

      Govt motto: If it ain’t broke, fix it til it is.

    • @MrCryptoChris
      @MrCryptoChris 23 дня назад +1

      On purpose.

    • @sijul6483
      @sijul6483 23 дня назад

      Civilians ruin everything.

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 21 день назад

      We keep paying them to do it! I have a feeling they'll keep on doing it as long as they're getting paid

  • @mellissadalby1402
    @mellissadalby1402 25 дней назад +11

    Dr/ Sal, you are the "Juan Browne" (Blancolirio) of the Maritime industry.

  • @doverbeachcomber
    @doverbeachcomber 24 дня назад +12

    I’m reminded of what General Smuts said when surveying the vulnerability of the Allies at a conference in Manila on December 6, 1941: “There is here an opportunity for a really first-class disaster.” In 24 hours, to his dismay, the Japanese started proving him right. Fast-forward 80 years, and here we go again with a lot of men and vital equipment in a terribly overextended and vulnerable position.

  • @davidsteuber7174
    @davidsteuber7174 25 дней назад +24

    Thank You. QMC Navy, Vietnam Vet and MSC deck officer Ret. They are indeed making this way too hard.

    • @myquealer
      @myquealer 24 дня назад +3

      Gaza has no seaport, no airport, and Israel controls all road crossings. Israel is not allowing much aid through those crossings. What is your simple solution to feed two million starving civilians?

    • @gloriaoxley393
      @gloriaoxley393 22 дня назад

      You are SO stupid if you think they're starving! Have you SEEN recent pictures of the Gaza plentiful markets? I have!​@@myquealer

  • @nekomakhea9440
    @nekomakhea9440 25 дней назад +62

    The USG operating in the most expensive and least efficient way possible? I'm shocked, I say, shocked!

    • @kurtwicklund8901
      @kurtwicklund8901 24 дня назад +5

      Now look into diplomacy.

    • @danielch6662
      @danielch6662 24 дня назад

      How long has it taken and is the port complete yet? Imagine the US trying to resupply Taiwan. With 10x the mouths to feed. By the time they get there, China would have taken over the island, finished conducting a sham election, and set up a puppet "autonomous" local government.

    • @tedmoss
      @tedmoss 24 дня назад

      @@danielch6662 I think part of the point of the operation in the first place, show what can be done or not done.

    • @hayleyxyz
      @hayleyxyz 24 дня назад +15

      Egypt and Israel won't let them use the crossing. Plus Israel has already started it's incursion into southern Gaza, so any aid transferred over land would have to drive through a warzone, across Israeli lines to deliver aid. If it even gets that far without being held up by IDF.
      Yes it might cost more, but it allows Americans to say they are delivering aid, and give the responsibility of distribution to native Gazans/the few NGOs still in Gaza.

    • @Khronogi
      @Khronogi 24 дня назад +7

      ​@@hayleyxyzyep, it bypasses israels blockade on aid.

  • @richardcarlson582
    @richardcarlson582 25 дней назад +20

    I dunno, Sal. The Israeli government and military have been dragging their feet on permitting humanitarian aid to Gaza since the opening weeks of the war. Maybe the US authorities have decided that using Ashdod as a port of entry for humanitarian aid just comes with too many bureaucratic strings attached. Do we know any details of what restrictions, if any, the Israeli government and/or military have put on the US use of Ashdod?

    • @jakemocci3953
      @jakemocci3953 24 дня назад

      The Israeli government has been telling their people that the Palestinians will be shipped to Europe and America. That is what this pier is for.

    • @2uksteve
      @2uksteve 24 дня назад +7

      In addition to the potential "too many bureaucratic strings attached" factor (for offloading in Ashdod). there's *also* the matter of then trucking the aid by road to any land entry point into Gaza that Israel deigns to make available. As Israeli extremists have long demonstrated, they are all too ready to block the roads/entry points whenever and wherever they choose - with the IDF and Israeli police looking on and rarely (if ever) lifting a finger to prevent/remove them.

  • @RichardHuffman
    @RichardHuffman 25 дней назад +45

    I think one thing that would have helped this video is simply stating that internal Israeli politics on top of the security requirements imposed by the IDF are the reason goods are not flowing overland from Israel's (or Egypt's) ports. It has become politically unacceptable to do nothing in the U.S., but it is politically unacceptable to Likud and their coalition to allow anything that possibly increases risk.
    On another note, hopefully this situation emphasizes our weaknesses to the Pentagon wrt logistics in much the same way that the aid to Ukraine (and the ammunition consumption - why is artillery ammunition consumption ALWAYS A SURPRISE?) was a kick in the pants for our defense industrial base.

    • @garybeaton3802
      @garybeaton3802 25 дней назад +5

      @RichardHuffman Artillery ammunition consumption in Ukraine is a shock to US/NATO because they are used to fighting one bare foot, third world, non-white country in a pack. The US military industrial complex is used to making expensive, complicated weapons systems that maximizes profits and shareholder value at the expense of the weapon's utility and serviceability. The Russians have a completely different approach informed by the number of times the land has been invaded.
      The American MIC is great for achieving results for the owners and the politicians it bribes on a regular basis but the wake up call was the Russian victory over the US in Syria.
      If military logistics was a subject taught at West Point then Project Ukraine would have never been entertained by anyone.

    • @kmo9790
      @kmo9790 24 дня назад +7

      Yeah Sal is really killing me here. Him saying that it seems like no one in the US gov is listening to the logical advice of trucking the aid is makes him seem either really naive or strait up propaganda.

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 24 дня назад +7

      I said the same about the politics/IDF, however your response is more diplomatic. 🍀

    • @captiannemo1587
      @captiannemo1587 24 дня назад +1

      He used to in previous videos mention such things

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 24 дня назад +1

      "...it is politically unacceptable to Likud and their coalition to allow anything that possibly increases risk [to Israel/the IDF]."
      So, to which Israelis WOULD this be "acceptable"?
      And to which Israelis OUGHT it to be "acceptable"?

  • @johnland5042
    @johnland5042 25 дней назад +6

    Thank you once again Sal.. Not afraid to call it like it really is!! B Z !

  • @bc-guy852
    @bc-guy852 25 дней назад +22

    The word salad seems as complicated as the logistics salad itself. Thanks for the perspective Sal.
    These guys NEED you! If you cannot have a direct line to Command - they should all at least subscribe and turn notifications on.
    And Congratulations on 50 million views Dr. Sal!

  • @javajunky215
    @javajunky215 25 дней назад +14

    You did good work man.. Keep it up.

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  25 дней назад +2

      Appreciate it!

    • @pairojeans
      @pairojeans 22 дня назад

      America literally supporting terrorism.

  • @stanford2444
    @stanford2444 25 дней назад +11

    Ex squid, did a couple weeks on the LCU Monterrey as joint support. Maybe this is is a wakeup as to what we need. Not very sexy, but very necessary. Really enjoy your insight.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 24 дня назад

      We need to do this why?

    • @Khronogi
      @Khronogi 24 дня назад +1

      ​@@gandydancer9710we supplied the weapons that created the crisis, we better supply the aid that helps it.

    • @JimWhitaker
      @JimWhitaker 23 дня назад

      @@gandydancer9710 Decency? Plus there is no better exercise than having to do it for real.

  • @garry1214
    @garry1214 24 дня назад +5

    You are welcome Sal, and thank you for the great information.

  • @johnfirebaugh7415
    @johnfirebaugh7415 23 дня назад +2

    We found you through Ward Carroll. Every video is first class and fact filled. You deserve 50,000,000 thumbs up too!
    What a failed political logistics mission. I pray no one is injured or lost!

  • @lincolnabc1
    @lincolnabc1 25 дней назад +72

    What a cluster! Who will prevent the aid being stolen on shore? Love your videos.

    • @lsusc
      @lsusc 25 дней назад +28

      Right, this aid will never get to the people. US is so naive.

    • @hal7112
      @hal7112 25 дней назад

      Yeah like who's gonna prevent the whole country from being stolen by settler colonials from Europe?...oh wait!

    • @M167A1
      @M167A1 25 дней назад +18

      Regardless, sending any aid at all to Gaza is stupid,

    • @ThePTBRULES
      @ThePTBRULES 24 дня назад +22

      They don't care, they just want to say they did something.

    • @jacobvardy
      @jacobvardy 24 дня назад

      Who would steal it? Humanitarian aid tends to be bulky, so it would be difficult to smuggle out. The only people who could really do that would be the IDF invasion force. Any profit would be pocket change to the IDF. Maybe the IDF steals the aid as part of their plan to kill Palestine with mass starvation. Because that is why the aid delivery is a cluster - the State of Israel won't let Palestinians import food, water, fuel, et cetera...

  • @leaj3799
    @leaj3799 24 дня назад +3

    Hi Sal, congratulations on 50 million. I think I found your channel originally when the Suez was blocked but only watched for a bit. Then I visited the lock system in Illinois along the Mississippi and saw a notification about potential issue in the Great Lakes due to strikes up in Canada. Being from the Chicago area I tried the Tribune because I figured there would be an economic impact - there was barely any reporting. I found your channel again and got true information. When the Baltimore bridge collapsed I knew where to go and I finally subscribed - I’ve been fascinated ever since and following along as you post. Shipping and trade really does make the world go around and has historical and current world impacts most people don’t consider. Please keep up the good work.
    Nitpicking aside: Ashdod is pronounced so that “dod” rhymes with the word “ode”- long O sound. I also grew up on Long Island so I know it doesn’t come naturally to us to say it that way.

    • @Sarcasticron
      @Sarcasticron 23 дня назад +1

      I also found this channel when the ship got stuck in the Suez. I didn't subscribe then, but the videos were so memorably good, I watched a few more. Then when I saw the channel coming up about the Baltimore bridge, I knew this was the place to go. So good, I had to subscribe, even though I wasn't very interested in shipping. I'm much more interested now, after watching a whole bunch more videos! Sometimes it's good to learn about things I'll never get to do in real life.

    • @leaj3799
      @leaj3799 22 дня назад

      Years ago B.C. (Before Children), my husband and I took a boat tour on the Intercostal to the port of Miami, Florida. I remember people oohing and aahing over the celebrity homes of people like Oprah and Gloria Estefan as we passed by. What I found amazing was the actual working port with the giant magnetic cranes seamlessly lifting containers off ships and on to rail cars. It was fascinating and not part of my day to day experience but incredible to see how goods get transferred and end up on our grocery shelves (assuming that a lot of what was coming up was produce from Central and South America). Watching this channel I’m learning much more than I ever thought I’d be interested in about naval and other military sea operations., which is a good thing. Sal is making a lot of complex information make sense including how shipping and world politics come together and has impacts in ways not necessarily immediately obvious. Every video I’m gaining new insights.

  • @tinacatharinaeden2711
    @tinacatharinaeden2711 24 дня назад +3

    That whole sequence of transporting cargo to Gaza was giving me a headache just hearing it. I hope it is changed to a safer method so people are not put in danger.

  • @SpookyEng1
    @SpookyEng1 24 дня назад +2

    Congrats on 50 mil! You are an indispensable source of maritime news!

  • @Swabthedecknow
    @Swabthedecknow 23 дня назад +2

    I Served on several of the MPS Squadron Three vessels back in the day. Makes me shudder to think they are not doing anything to keep these forces in readiness. They are a vital part of our defense in the world, and are extremely effective in their deployment.

    • @pairojeans
      @pairojeans 22 дня назад

      America literally supporting terrorism.

  • @robpeters5204
    @robpeters5204 25 дней назад +10

    Congratulations Sal!!!
    It’s all you bruddah!
    It’s your accurate and honest reporting that bring people to you. I was with you from day one and you haven’t dropped the ball on any of your videos.
    Continued success with the channel!!
    Looking forward to the next video as always.

  • @JR-ey3oo
    @JR-ey3oo 25 дней назад +4

    Congratulations! Such great content deserves a billion views.

  • @JimmysSpeedShop
    @JimmysSpeedShop 24 дня назад +2

    Congratulations Sal! You deserve it! Great job!

    • @pairojeans
      @pairojeans 22 дня назад

      America literally supporting terrorism.

  • @shysonofficial
    @shysonofficial 24 дня назад

    Thanks for the updates!

  • @garypavlosky5256
    @garypavlosky5256 25 дней назад +15

    Take this as a bell for every video you put out. Started following you with the canal incident and just amazing of your background and more importantly what is going on with shipping! I never knew. Just letting you know you are appreciated!. Thank you.

  • @jeffr6280
    @jeffr6280 24 дня назад +3

    Who's providing security on the shores of Gaza, anyone who thinks Hamas isn't going to be directly involved in receiving and distributing amongst themselves first whatever comes on shore is completely naïve.

  • @debcamp2359
    @debcamp2359 23 дня назад

    ❤ the updates. Thx for the honest assessment.

  • @frazerbrimman
    @frazerbrimman 22 дня назад

    thanks for all the hard work!

  • @Hattusa
    @Hattusa 25 дней назад +5

    I still can't believe we're sending a vessel named the Matamoros to help a Muslim country. 🤦‍♂

  • @ATH_Berkshire
    @ATH_Berkshire 25 дней назад +6

    They are going ver the beach because the politics of the situation prevent any of the more efficient options working.

  • @GAFisherman
    @GAFisherman 25 дней назад +2

    Always informative. Thanks.

  • @stephenwise3635
    @stephenwise3635 24 дня назад

    Congrats on the milestone, love what you do. Respect from Manchester (UK) :)

  • @AllNighterHeider
    @AllNighterHeider 24 дня назад +4

    You have definitely earned it,
    Congrats and thanks Sal

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  24 дня назад +1

      Thank you kindly

    • @pairojeans
      @pairojeans 22 дня назад

      America literally supporting terrorism.

  • @1971noremac
    @1971noremac 25 дней назад +4

    SalI I found you right after the bridge collapse, keep up the good work.

  • @torymartinez2439
    @torymartinez2439 24 дня назад

    ive been watchin daily since i found ya . this is a great source of real news .

  • @joshhoffman1975
    @joshhoffman1975 17 дней назад

    Great presentation, thanks!

  • @davidpowell7614
    @davidpowell7614 24 дня назад +3

    Certainly, it’s a massive logistical effort to get aid in to Gaza, which doesn’t seem to get in easily by other routes. The irony is that the US aid to Israel is partially what made this necessary! As others comment below: it’s politics.

  • @AnonymousAlcoholic772
    @AnonymousAlcoholic772 25 дней назад +3

    Well that makes Me feel better. Nothing bad ever happens in Tenerife.

  • @akfinn5308
    @akfinn5308 25 дней назад +1

    Thank You, Sal !!

  • @SteamCrane
    @SteamCrane 23 дня назад +1

    Considering the location at the east end of the Med, this is approximately the same position in the Med as Buffalo is on Lake Erie. Buffalo gets very interesting weather, and seiches. The word that comes to mind is Mulberry Harbors.

  • @tommychew6544
    @tommychew6544 25 дней назад +5

    Sal, you have a great channel, I was glad I found you thru Ward Carrol's channel!

  • @sarelvanderwalt5219
    @sarelvanderwalt5219 25 дней назад +24

    I know Sal only looks at the sea side of this, but there are many questions that cast doubt if this will work:
    1. Israel issued evacuation notices in Rafah with the “safe area” being the coastal side of Khan Younis. If this pier anchors there, will a 1000 contract mercenaries be enough to prevent 1-2milluon starving Gazans from storming & boarding ships?
    1b. How coincidental is the timing of this Pier to Israel’s Rafah invasion? Does this further expose the US for complicity in the IDF actions?
    2. Who will do the last-mile distribution of the aid from the pier to the individuals & households in Gaza? Is there still enough fuel in Gaza for this?
    3. What will be the rules of engagement for ships & mercenaries if they come under fire (from Hamas &/ the IDF)?? And if the starving population or last-mile distributors comes under fire from the IDF?

    • @Past10Performance
      @Past10Performance 25 дней назад +6

      Great questions, I'm sure we will only get the answers after it goes terribly wrong. This is what happens when feelings take charge over reality in politics

    • @sargesacker2599
      @sargesacker2599 25 дней назад

      Just remember this is the administration that pulled out of Afghanistan without a plan.
      So don't expect much.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 24 дня назад +1

      1. Depends on the ROE. If they can shoot real bullets, yes.
      1b. This has been in train for a long time before Israel struck Rafah, so there is no "coincidental timing".
      2. Sal suggests "Gaza" will provide security, so if this imaginary "Gaza" can provide imaginary security I guess it can provide imaginary distribution as well. As to fuel, why would the supplies be delivered to Gaza without including fuel?
      3. LOL! See answer #1.

    • @dfvdf2457
      @dfvdf2457 23 дня назад

      I agree, Sal is looking from the "sea side" only (no offence Sal ❤), the whole picture is much more complex for sure. Maybe it's just a test case for this scenario, maybe it's just to trying to show the weakness to get more money from the government, maybe there are some political/bureaucratic issues to be avoided, maybe ...
      Edit: added the missing words "to show"

  • @charliebrenton4421
    @charliebrenton4421 25 дней назад +2

    Fascinating insights as always! Cheers!

  • @DeaconBlu
    @DeaconBlu 24 дня назад +1

    Fact is sir…
    You put out quality, informative and unbiased data.
    That’s a hard thing to come by these days.
    I congratulate you on the accomplishment.
    Nicely done sir.
    😎👍

    • @pairojeans
      @pairojeans 22 дня назад

      America literally supporting terrorism.

  • @avwill
    @avwill 25 дней назад +5

    Thanks!

  • @markthompson2079
    @markthompson2079 25 дней назад +4

    Great video!

  • @dfvdf2457
    @dfvdf2457 23 дня назад

    Congrats Sal to the 50 M 🎉
    I've found your channel randomly some months ago and since than always stepping in to get the actual news about shipping all over the world.
    I've ever wanted to understand what happened at the suez canal, how can a ship grounding there in our modern times with all these hightech. I've found the answer by your explanation.
    Thank you very much for your effort to share your bottomless knowledge about shipping with me/us. It's very appreciated ❤❤❤

  • @GeorgeBenedictBaldwin
    @GeorgeBenedictBaldwin 25 дней назад +1

    WHOLEY, Ronzonie! Grats Sal!

  • @codegame027
    @codegame027 25 дней назад +7

    its crazy how many views your content has gotten only since November (Red Sea, MV Dali, etc...). Long time viewer though.

  • @elcastorgrande
    @elcastorgrande 25 дней назад +16

    Do you seriously think Israel would let aid in via Ashdod? Or Egypt allow its ports to be used?

    • @johnsmith-if6yc
      @johnsmith-if6yc 25 дней назад

      Israel let's in more aid now that before the Islamic Nazis butchered 1300 people

    • @barley-pt
      @barley-pt 24 дня назад +2

      He really does... He doesn't understand what is going on there.

    • @nextinstitute7824
      @nextinstitute7824 21 день назад +2

      @@barley-pt Of course he does get it. He hinted at it previously, but likes to stay out of this swamp...

    • @davideriksen9086
      @davideriksen9086 20 дней назад

      @@nextinstitute7824 We should prefer to think this is the case. A swamp it is, when it comes to international diplomacy. As @elcastorgrande pointed out, not like Israel would want to lend an assist and Egypt would want to expose itself to "controversy."

  • @Blue2swing
    @Blue2swing 24 дня назад +2

    I feel like this is a good test run for moving cargo if there were to be a confrontation between the US and a far away nation. Its obvious any plans we had in place are not working. So something new needs to be developed for such a scenario. This is a good opportunity to see what works and what doesn't work.

  • @heathbaron1664
    @heathbaron1664 21 день назад

    Congrats on the milestone

  • @leewahler3058
    @leewahler3058 25 дней назад +4

    What you're calling a pier attached to LMSR is a Ro/Ro Discharge Facility

  • @raymondtonns2521
    @raymondtonns2521 25 дней назад +4

    thanks again Sal i learn a lot from your channel .we do not hear much of anything you talk about and show elsewhere

  • @jessen00001
    @jessen00001 24 дня назад +1

    Great video Sal 🎉 Thank you 😊

  • @KubotaManDan
    @KubotaManDan 24 дня назад +2

    I told my nephew about your channel and he subs now too. You have the best shipping information out of all the others.

  • @Stenskold
    @Stenskold 24 дня назад +3

    What is the exercise value of this operation? You say that it’s not a very effective way to bring aid to Gaza, but what about the value for the navy and army to exercise a capability that you don’t often use operationally?

  • @KarynHill
    @KarynHill 25 дней назад +4

    I thought they were doing it this way because other than air drops, it's the only way to get aid actually to Gaza, rather than it being stopped at the entries to Gaza while the people in Gaza literally starve to death?

    • @PrezVeto
      @PrezVeto 23 дня назад

      No. Any way chosen to bring aid in, H will move to be in the way. H will be right off (or even on) the beach waiting to intercept the trucks.

  • @TheVigilant109
    @TheVigilant109 24 дня назад +2

    Thanks for the explanation Sal

  • @cliffguthrie7530
    @cliffguthrie7530 25 дней назад +2

    Hey congrats on 50M views! Enjoy your content and the shirts!

  • @Humanity_Hope_
    @Humanity_Hope_ 25 дней назад +3

    Surfing is very popular in TLV Beaches
    The Sea conditions further South may be similar
    I am worried that the Pier's Integrity may be affected by the Waves

  • @whya2ndaccount
    @whya2ndaccount 25 дней назад +4

    Amphib logistics - love it!

  • @MrAlewicious
    @MrAlewicious 25 дней назад +1

    Awesome job, Sal!

  • @kentw.phillips5748
    @kentw.phillips5748 24 дня назад +2

    My guess about "why this method?" is that this JLOTS operation is not only executed to provide aid but also executed as an advanced proof-of concept exercise of man and machine in a real-world real-time environment. JLOTS is definitely not efficient where established ports exist, but this operation is performed in a politically sensitive environment.

  • @PotzyMccoy
    @PotzyMccoy 24 дня назад +3

    I wonder if any of these crews think about the USS Liberty wondering if theyll do it again

  • @laurenglass4514
    @laurenglass4514 25 дней назад +4

    Every time you discuss redundancy in the military it just highlights the inefficiency and incompetence in decision making.

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 24 дня назад

      I'm not even military, and I see the danger in what these higher-ups are doing. Perhaps seeing the Ruzzian clown show at the start of the invasion alerted me to logistical nightmares.
      I sure hope they get their acts together because it's never their necks on the line.

  • @glassman304
    @glassman304 24 дня назад +2

    Great topic and analysis today.

  • @OSGCourtWatch
    @OSGCourtWatch 22 дня назад

    Luv the channel!

  • @methylmike
    @methylmike 25 дней назад +21

    Sec Austin is blowing it
    Big time

    • @Khronogi
      @Khronogi 24 дня назад

      How so?

    • @methylmike
      @methylmike 24 дня назад +2

      @@Khronogi afghanistan withdrawal, ukraine is a mess, half a billion on a beach head that wont work, hollowed out military
      take your pick

  • @CoolClearWaterNM
    @CoolClearWaterNM 23 дня назад +16

    Most sickening example of aid to the enemy ever accomplished.

    • @gloriaoxley393
      @gloriaoxley393 23 дня назад +4

      Spend U.S. tax money where it's needed in U.S., namely so. border + many more situations!!

  • @sagebrushbob2321
    @sagebrushbob2321 24 дня назад +1

    As the saying goes: "Amateurs study battles. True professionals study logistics." No conflict can be won without massive logistics support throughout the supply chain. For years our congress and military leaders have totally gutted our ability to supply any overseas event in the name of 'efficiency' and 'cost savings'.

  • @kazer661
    @kazer661 24 дня назад

    Thanks for the superb objective content!

  • @markallan1382
    @markallan1382 25 дней назад +9

    As complicated as this process is, it's a good thing this is unopposed!

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 25 дней назад +6

      So far.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 25 дней назад +7

      Who says it's unopposed? Hamas didn't say that?🤔

    • @bakerbill4274
      @bakerbill4274 25 дней назад +1

      This process IS complicated. The idea is that once the Marines land and establish a secure beachhead, the JLOTS equipment can be brought in to supply ongoing military operations.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 25 дней назад +3

      @@bakerbill4274 That is totally not the plan. But thanks for playing.

    • @user-vy7iw4lf5o
      @user-vy7iw4lf5o 25 дней назад +2

      Why is t really there? That’s the question.

  • @jameshicks914
    @jameshicks914 25 дней назад +13

    Great information Sal!!

  • @JimmysSpeedShop
    @JimmysSpeedShop 24 дня назад

    Very interesting, thx

  • @harryniedecken5321
    @harryniedecken5321 25 дней назад +8

    Thanks for the video. Hopefully we will do something useful in helping to feed these people instead of just supporting a horrible atrocity. Keep the Israeli as much out of it as possible. We don't need their help or permission to be humanitarian.

    • @dildswagginz3408
      @dildswagginz3408 24 дня назад +3

      I think not needing Israeli permission is why they had to do it this way rather than through an Israeli port and then via trucks - the aid would get backed up like other aid trucks have been/are right now, either directly by the government or indirectly by allowing protesters to blockade the land crossings.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 24 дня назад

      Actually, you do apparently need Israeli help, since Sal said Israel is providing offshore security. You damn well better get and keep their permission, too.

    • @ajc5479
      @ajc5479 24 дня назад

      @@gandydancer9710 Israel is providing offshore/onshore *blockade* , for some reason they are not brave enough to blockade the US LOL.

  • @MiggerPlease
    @MiggerPlease 25 дней назад +10

    Na na na na BOAT MAN !!!!!!

  • @jdelacruz6854
    @jdelacruz6854 23 дня назад

    Congratulations. Great channel

  • @EdwardRLyons
    @EdwardRLyons 25 дней назад +14

    Given that Israel and Egypt will not allow the delivery of aid through their own ports, then this is the only way to do it. It doesn't matter how inefficient under the circumstances.

    • @MegaSubzerro
      @MegaSubzerro 24 дня назад +1

      Why would you harm your own economy for people who want to extinct you?
      For Egypt case, why would you harm your own economy?

    • @ajc5479
      @ajc5479 24 дня назад

      @@MegaSubzerro Gaza doesn't have much on an economy to harm and Israel wants to extinct them regardless

    • @MegaSubzerro
      @MegaSubzerro 24 дня назад +1

      @@ajc5479 I was referring to Israel
      I already know that Gaza doesn’t have an economy, guess what terrorism doesn’t yield anything of value to the world

    • @ajc5479
      @ajc5479 24 дня назад

      @@MegaSubzerro "terrorism doesn’t yield anything of value to the world" something Israel badly needs to learn

    • @MegaSubzerro
      @MegaSubzerro 24 дня назад

      @@ajc5479 wikipedia
      There are over 6,000 startups currently in Israel.[1][2][3][4][5] There are currently more than 30 technology companies valued over US$1 billion (unicorn startups) in Israel.[6]
      Also you know that Israel invented the cherry tomato? 🍅

  • @TrainsBeesWoodworking
    @TrainsBeesWoodworking 25 дней назад +3

    Thanks Sal for the great information. This looks like two gigantic targets for Hamas. How long does anyone think these piers will be attacked?

    • @ickyconcrete5370
      @ickyconcrete5370 25 дней назад +3

      I think the most likely scenario is that aid will be unloaded straight into Hamas vehicles and never seen again sadly.

  • @theiranianputin2770
    @theiranianputin2770 23 дня назад

    Thanks Sal.

  • @ronald_with_wings
    @ronald_with_wings 24 дня назад

    Great work Sal as usual

  • @paulphotios3920
    @paulphotios3920 25 дней назад +10

    Is this managed by black rock?

  • @keithhigh7773
    @keithhigh7773 25 дней назад +14

    I know you are trying to talk up this US lead operation.
    WW2 is a long time ago and it was wartime (isn't Gaza a war?) but the allied military did amazing things in very short time periods.
    Here we are 80 years later, and this pier operation is almost pre WW1 and, as you remark, is still a very inefficient means of getting the aid to where it is needed.

    • @richarddevaottien7724
      @richarddevaottien7724 25 дней назад

      Gaza is a d€p0pul@tion protocol, not a war😮

    • @davidgenie-ci5zl
      @davidgenie-ci5zl 24 дня назад

      In ww2 we didnt feed the nazis until unconditional surrender. We should not be feeding the gazans.

    • @kurtwicklund8901
      @kurtwicklund8901 24 дня назад

      If Gaza had an actual deep water facility the USA would use that. But Gaza doesn't. So the USA is using this method which offloads directly into Gaza.
      Politics

  • @bobyoung4013
    @bobyoung4013 24 дня назад +1

    Sal appreciate your comments and you are right on. This is not the way to do it. Unfortunately, there are no more LSTs left in the American fleet. The LSTs with a key to D-Day in WWII and we contributed heavily in the Vietnam conflict as well.

  • @sandygalbraith9491
    @sandygalbraith9491 24 дня назад +1

    This verges on the daftest idea I have ever seen concerning a logistics solution. This was created by a committee of politicians and military personnel who did not have the most basic understanding of commercial shipping activities. It is essential to consider efficient cargo flow, the minimisation of transport movements, optimal connectivity, and, most importantly, in this instance, recognise the vulnerabilities associated with loosely secured facilities offshore that would be inoperable in anything but the mildest weather and sea conditions. Sal is spot on, saying the most practical solution would be to let the Gaza cargo flow unhindered through the port of Ashdod, just 20 or 30 kilometres up the coast.

  • @jonahhekmatyar
    @jonahhekmatyar 25 дней назад +12

    The sad part is that I don't think they want any aid getting into gaza while still saving some face.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 25 дней назад +7

      The pronoun game isn't an effective way to convey your ideas.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 24 дня назад

      @@obsidianjane4413 I assume "they" is Biden. We'll see if this saves more face than, say, leaving Afghanistan did.

  • @sststr
    @sststr 25 дней назад +3

    The reason you do an operation like this despite it being an extremely suboptimal method is because you want to practice it under something other than peace-time conditions. That means they intend to need this method in the near future somewhere else under hostile conditions.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 24 дня назад +2

      The only thing this operation is demonstrating is that they can't.

    • @sststr
      @sststr 24 дня назад +1

      Well, better to find that out now in a minor hostility scenario than to learn it the hard way after a war has started over Taiwan!

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 24 дня назад

      @@sststr If they needed to learn that at all then their foresight was broken.
      What nutter would attempt to send the Bobo to Taiwan?

    • @PrezVeto
      @PrezVeto 23 дня назад

      I think you're giving the administration too much credit.