One quarter inch above? For Korean traditional bows, be they carbon fibre or horn bows, the distance above the right angle is 1 1/2 diameters of the arrow's diameter, which is about 3/8 ". If lower than that and you're shooting arrows with plastic vanes, you'll likely slice your thumb, it being used as the arrow rest. I say that with 24 years watching others do the slice-and-dice. Arrows fletched with feathers and no quill material can be a little lower with no ill effects. Peasant feathers are the softest and just won't damage the thumb so 1/4 " is just fine.
Awesome 👍🏻 thank you very much for explaining this in a common sense way... Every video brakes it down and makes it thoroughly understandable, informative and enjoyable. Kudos to y'all!!!
What a fantastic way of doing a serving thread nock, so simple, elegant, and beautiful. Thank you for sharing your wonderful method. Extra bonus points for mentioning how to easily remove brass nocks.
Your tips are just so great. I'm excited. I like to improvise in my life and of course also when it comes to archery. I like the serving line method best. I have the material here anyway, I can change it quickly at any time and it's hardly bulky. For me the ideal solution.
One tip on installing the brass nocking point is to not install it tightly in the beginning. You can then spin the brass nocking point, one way or the other, to move it up or down the string while you are bare shaft tuning to get the proper nock set height. Spinning the brass nocking point will move it up or down the serving due the angled wrap of the serving. Like you said, installing it 1/4 of an inch high is a good starting point.
For my nail knot nocks I use a knitting needle. I have a 3.25 mm but that is just what I have on hand (they also work for pulling broken nocks out of arrows). I wrap towards the hook and then use the hook to pull back through the loops. This works for me because I make ~20 wraps for a nock point that is longer and not a pressure point on my finger. Works great getting that end through all those loops.
Your videos are concise, clear, and always interesting! I've used all three and use floss for finding the best point and the serving nail knot for the perminant nocking point. All the best with your new bow line!
I use the knotless nocks for temporary nocking points. If you tie them right going with the twists of the serving and being careful how you burnish, you can twist them up and down to adjust the height while tuning. Once I've got the right height I cut them off and them do a Korean nocking point with serving which are very similar to the knotless ones but they are quite a bit lot longer and they last forever. They are more complicated again. These are popular nocking points for Olympic recurve style archers. Ashe Morgan from the Online Archery Academy channel has a excellent tutorial about how to tie them.
Love these how to videos! Newbie question. With a single nocking point on the bow string, where is the customary placement of the arrow nock....Above or below the nocking point?
Funny thing, Shatterproof just shipped my new bowstringa and YT sent me this link. Maybe YT was spying on me 😆 I use the brass knuckles or flossing more so the latter since it's easier for me to reposition my nock as I tune up a new bow. Once I get my bow and shaft at a spot that I want to be at, I cut the floss and crimp on a brass at the same spot. I shows split for
It is a knot adopted from flyfishing. You can tie without a pen and then it is called a nailless nail knot. I believe you are incorrect in your definition. Ask me how I know?
There is a third method that is more expensive, I have seen people use the rubber nocks called Nitro Speed Nocks but mainly adults/teens using it on lever bows or glove/tab style compounds like the Gen--X, or the right hand only Bernet kids--small adult 27 inch draw 20--45 pound bow the Vortex/H20 eior this one model SAS/Junxing sell that is a 1994--1995 style of bow in a more generic look as these people need something for a bow that is going to hold better then these 3 methods that will wear out sooner. I have seen the floss replaced by using thread mainly on RUclips but a few times in real life once with a Leverbow used more like a traditional bow without a sight and fingers so they could use a color that stands out well but less likely to get dirty like the floss due to the slightly sticky nature of the material. One guy said in his youth in the late 1960's and into the 1970's they used a small piece of baling wire as the nock and shot with an older style single hole style tab made from old worn out palm side thinner leather work gloves using back part they cut out themselves as that leather was still good on those worn out gloves on the back. They did this so they could afford to use the better broadheads from Bear, the single bevel models no longer made with the fiberglass arrows of the era for better durability then wood but cheaper then Aluminum that was more expensive then fiberglass.
Finaly somebody knows how to nock a arrow! Thanks for telling everybody.
One quarter inch above? For Korean traditional bows, be they carbon fibre or horn bows, the distance above the right angle is 1 1/2 diameters of the arrow's diameter, which is about 3/8 ". If lower than that and you're shooting arrows with plastic vanes, you'll likely slice your thumb, it being used as the arrow rest. I say that with 24 years watching others do the slice-and-dice.
Arrows fletched with feathers and no quill material can be a little lower with no ill effects. Peasant feathers are the softest and just won't damage the thumb so 1/4 " is just fine.
I like the serving but I hadn't seen it done that way. That's sharp. Thanks for the video!
Awesome 👍🏻 thank you very much for explaining this in a common sense way... Every video brakes it down and makes it thoroughly understandable, informative and enjoyable.
Kudos to y'all!!!
Thank you for this video. After shooting for 4 decades, I learned something new and practical.
What a fantastic way of doing a serving thread nock, so simple, elegant, and beautiful. Thank you for sharing your wonderful method. Extra bonus points for mentioning how to easily remove brass nocks.
Learning to tie fishing knots, this seems easy.
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I'm a pretty big fan of serving. Do it right and it's adjustable by twisting it up or down
Your tips are just so great. I'm excited. I like to improvise in my life and of course also when it comes to archery. I like the serving line method best. I have the material here anyway, I can change it quickly at any time and it's hardly bulky. For me the ideal solution.
Would a strand of bow string work as well?
One tip on installing the brass nocking point is to not install it tightly in the beginning. You can then spin the brass nocking point, one way or the other, to move it up or down the string while you are bare shaft tuning to get the proper nock set height. Spinning the brass nocking point will move it up or down the serving due the angled wrap of the serving. Like you said, installing it 1/4 of an inch high is a good starting point.
I am here in Regional Australia and have used fishing braid
For my nail knot nocks I use a knitting needle. I have a 3.25 mm but that is just what I have on hand (they also work for pulling broken nocks out of arrows). I wrap towards the hook and then use the hook to pull back through the loops. This works for me because I make ~20 wraps for a nock point that is longer and not a pressure point on my finger. Works great getting that end through all those loops.
Your videos are concise, clear, and always interesting! I've used all three and use floss for finding the best point and the serving nail knot for the perminant nocking point. All the best with your new bow line!
You can also use any thick thread for sewing
I just ordered a traditional bow with no arrow shelf, so where would i position the knocking point?
I use the knotless nocks for temporary nocking points. If you tie them right going with the twists of the serving and being careful how you burnish, you can twist them up and down to adjust the height while tuning. Once I've got the right height I cut them off and them do a Korean nocking point with serving which are very similar to the knotless ones but they are quite a bit lot longer and they last forever. They are more complicated again. These are popular nocking points for Olympic recurve style archers. Ashe Morgan from the Online Archery Academy channel has a excellent tutorial about how to tie them.
I have a brass nock, is it ok if your fingers or the tip of your finger tab to touch the brass nock when drawing the string back?
Very helpful! Thanks!
Love these how to videos! Newbie question. With a single nocking point on the bow string, where is the customary placement of the arrow nock....Above or below the nocking point?
Always below the nocking point.
@@peterpasulke8830 Thank you!
Might be a dumb suggestion but I wouldn't have minded watching you take the nail knot off. Is it still easy to cut with a razor blade?
Yes it is:)
Have a question for you can you use the over hand knot system also with the serving material ?
You could definitely do that it just may not stay as well.
I don't have serving. Would heavyweight thread such as carpet thread work? Thanks. TomlovesDIY
I have also found that using a double constrictor knot with serving material works great.
what's a constrictor knot
@@clark32900 it's a binding knot that, if done properly needs to be cut off. Works well on the serving as it won't slide up/down.
Funny thing, Shatterproof just shipped my new bowstringa and YT sent me this link. Maybe YT was spying on me 😆
I use the brass knuckles or flossing more so the latter since it's easier for me to reposition my nock as I tune up a new bow. Once I get my bow and shaft at a spot that I want to be at, I cut the floss and crimp on a brass at the same spot. I shows split for
Wow, never thought that you can use tape for temporary nock!
Interesting stuff! 😊
I use dental floss dead easy to tie on. I find it more convenient than those brass things.
Great!
It is a knot adopted from flyfishing. You can tie without a pen and then it is called a nailless nail knot. I believe you are incorrect in your definition. Ask me how I know?
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Brass works great for American recurves. But if you shoot Asiatic recurves/horse bows then really serving is the only way.
I just used a surgical tape.
There is a third method that is more expensive, I have seen people use the rubber nocks called Nitro Speed Nocks but mainly adults/teens using it on lever bows or glove/tab style compounds like the Gen--X, or the right hand only Bernet kids--small adult 27 inch draw 20--45 pound bow the Vortex/H20 eior this one model SAS/Junxing sell that is a 1994--1995 style of bow in a more generic look as these people need something for a bow that is going to hold better then these 3 methods that will wear out sooner. I have seen the floss replaced by using thread mainly on RUclips but a few times in real life once with a Leverbow used more like a traditional bow without a sight and fingers so they could use a color that stands out well but less likely to get dirty like the floss due to the slightly sticky nature of the material. One guy said in his youth in the late 1960's and into the 1970's they used a small piece of baling wire as the nock and shot with an older style single hole style tab made from old worn out palm side thinner leather work gloves using back part they cut out themselves as that leather was still good on those worn out gloves on the back. They did this so they could afford to use the better broadheads from Bear, the single bevel models no longer made with the fiberglass arrows of the era for better durability then wood but cheaper then Aluminum that was more expensive then fiberglass.