Microsoft should be on the hook for a class lawsuit because they knew before they issued that update that the recovery partion on many users pc's would not be large enough and they sent it any way. That would be like Ford/cheverolet/Bently selling you a car for $50,000 then coming over the next day bashing the windshield out and telling you theres nothing you can do about it.. It almost seems like microsoft may have done this to users intentionally to try an force them to upgrade to windows 11 cause they were mad because users aren't adopting win 11 very fast.
@@Hardcore_Remixer when microsoft arbitrarily decided that my current machine wasn't capable of running 11... that's on them. I KNOW it is. It far exceeds the specs with a single exception. 5th gen Intel CPU. But it's an extreme CPU, 8 cores/16 threads and easily runs everything I throw at it. Still 5 years after building it. If that's the sole reason, I'm NOT building a machine based on that. I know I can force it and it will run fine. But decided screw it, they don't want me on 11, I'll grant their wish.
I think they say it's not large enough because they have no idea why it actually fails on so many computers, I wonder if mbr2gpt sometimes fails to set the correct ID for the recovery partition because that's the only thing remotely related to partitioning a disk that I did to my Windows SSDs *after* installing Windows 10 in MBR mode many years ago. If the partition ID is *Basic data partition* (EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7) or *Windows Recovery Environment* (DE94BBA4-06D1-4D40-A16A-BFD50179D6AC) it worked fine on two of my computers with the default 500MB partitions created by the Windows 10 installer, even if in one of them the partition ended identified (mbr2gpt?) as a "normal" *Basic data partition* On the computer I'm using right now I "only" had to delete the 788MB recovery partition and recreate it again to install the patch back in January, the partition is the same size as it was before but I'm not sure which ID it had before, I suspect it could have been changed to *Microsoft Reserved partition* (E3C9E316-0B5C-4DB8-817D-F92DF00215AE) because it was hidden on Disk Manager and now it shows a recovery partition, but before reading the instructions to install this patch I wasn't even aware of GPT partition IDs so I think only mbr2gpt could have done it... unless Windows 10 is self-sabotaging!
This isn't the 1990s anymore, and anyone smart enough to make their way here or to just go, and Google it would quickly figure it out..yeah Nana, and Gramps not so much. But, that's what they got you for.
@@Ichijoe2112the fix for manually shrinking your primary partition and then expanding your recovery partition involves using the command line where one typo, misplaced space or comma could be catastrophic.
@@smashed_penguin That line of thinking pretty much applies across the board a.k.a life. I think the trick here is to measure twice, and cut once. Again it's called reading comprehension. You can either do it (i.e. read the fine manual), or deal with it, and reinstall from scratch. Also what happened to off PC / Site Backups? Apple has Time Machine, Linux has rsync, doesn't Windows not have something along that line? If you're not running some kind of Backup NAS in this day, and age then you deserve to lose your data IMHO. Nobody wants to be such a condition. But being in one, ya can either hopefully deal with it, or finding a way to deal with it. Either way if you can't deal with this HOWTO, written as it is, by some Microsoftie Rep. Then we need not suggest something more intense like Linux, or Opencore Hackintosoh. Again the secret is to crank out the old Max-iPad / Phablet, hit up the HOWTO and take it line by Line, perhaps taking a few side trips on how to use Diskpart. And accept that your RE Partition will be close, but absolutely NOT the same as the example. It would also be noting that you probably want to avoid the larger Partition(s).
Funny that Mucrosoft says "some PCs might not have a recovery partition...large enough". - I frequently do new installs of Windows 10 Pro, with a copy downloaded from them and I always have this hiccup because their setup formats the HDD with a partition that is too small. I have integrated into my process the steps of resizing the partition before I do updates just to avoid the error. - Maybe Microsoft could fix their installer?
It definitely was not only the recovery partition size because somehow I ended up with one triple the size of my old version and it’s still throws the error.
I have two Windows 10 installs on two separate drives, on the install that has a recovery partition the update failed. On the other drive the update was successful, but guess what, there isn’t even a recovery partition on that one, so that doesn’t make sense and on top of that it supposedly failed to include one when I installed that second Windows. 🤦🏻
Shouldn’t have happened in the first place. Useless update. The average Joe end user shouldn’t be told to mess with partitions. Easy enough fix for someone like me, but not everyone can follow those instructions and could risk messing up the system.
Back in January, had this fault arise. Seemed like a good excuse to upgrade my drive and do a clean install. Problem solved. For anyone really bothered by this issue, I have suggested they do the same or similar; what it costs in a bit of hardware, it saves on time spent backing up and praying. Luckily, it only affected one machine.
followed that guide some weeks ago and all it did for me was create an entirely new small partition with the exact same name which didn't solve anything lol, so I deleted that and left it alone
I followed the instructions in the Microsoft link you provided, took me less than 5 minutes to complete. Pretty clear and simple instructions, surprisingly.
that's not the problem, microsoft shill. the problem is we are not supposed to solve a problem they created, much less using scripts and commands that potentialy could brick your pc.
Hey Brent! I was wondering if you recommend the K-Lite Codec Pack Full with MPC-HC video player? I've read that MPC-HC is a better video player than VLC. Which video player do you personally prefer?
MPC-HC is objectively better than VLC. The VLC interface is awful. You don't need codec packs anymore. MPC-HC has LAV Filters already included and you can install system-wide LAV Filters yourself for everything else.
hey thanks for this. I might try the steps but considering you said its ok to ignore the update, I may just do that. my only question is, will this update prevent future updates from being installed? I.E will it always try to install this update first and if it fails it wont install the ones next in the queue?
that's what happened to me, I ignored it but other updates would stay on pending and not update. Then next boot the computer wanted me to install windows 11. So now I run Linux Mint.
This requires your device to have the recovery partition after the OS partition. What happens for the users that don't have this? The recovery partition in some PC's is in the begining of the disk, far away from the OS partition and between them is the EFI partition and in some cases, there is a reserved partition too. So, for common users this will be a huge problem!
You can fix it by deleting the old partition, resizing the main partition and then make a new Recovery partition, but it's quite a process, definitely not suited for your regular user. I suspect it was an intended move by MS to get people to upgrade to win11.
I thought that it not only had to be someone getting physical access to your hard drive but that you also had to have bitlocker enabled for this to even be relevant?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Please remind the Class what the Problem (In this Conversation), was again? If the Dolt in question can not be ares to read as well a scripted HOWTO how TF could you expect them to read Linux code off of a Board somewhere, when they need to self install some Wi-Fi / nVIDIA Card? Big talk. I owe a lot of my Skript reading ability to having, ran a Gentoo server, as a VDR Mediacenter, about Ten or more yonks ago. A real PITA it was, and made slower by being on a dual core C2D. But, being thrown down at the deep end, ya either learn to swim, or ya drown.
This year: Conservatives X, Labour X, Other YES! This year I'm going Linux. Goodbye to you pathetic, sleazy Microsoft, this was the LAST straw, I WILL NOT go Apple, so it is Revolution for me!
this update produced a bluecscreen on my pc. shutup10 on full disable settings fixed it. only downside is the manual update check evey now and then or on urgent security news.
I had this issue with this KB update file. After awhile MS put this file in my optional update list. Just went on my Win chk for updates, and it's completely gone. After looking at my update history. All the failed attempts are gone as well. Lucky me. BTW - It did bother me a little.
This is shamefull from MS, on a clean install the OS ifself will auto create a 500MB recovery partition and MS releases and update that they have to know will fail unless the recovery partition is 750MB. Then they take 4months to says Opps you will have to manually fix it yourself!
I it's been since Jan so... can't recall if, maybe, briefly, other updates failed, but currently I get all other updates just fine. and I only see this pos when I manually check. otherwise Windows update, now, always shows "...up to date" My recovery partition is 4 GB and located exactly where it's supposed to be so as far as I know, my only plan-b it to ignore this. This is just not a "clean-install" level problem for me.
What is the harm in providing automated solution for the KB5034441 problem? They can easily check the resources and check the hard disk space to perform the resizing with the available space. And for those it is not possible even after this automated check, then display the list of resource not available with the individual users. Can't they make it (Microsoft)?
@@incandescentwithrage Understand the gravity of this update. But, it may be available along with warning. It may have some legal consequences, but in the modern world still relying on manual processing seem weired.
probably, yes. but it could just as likely be some SW/OS corruption as HW. 90% of the time, BSOD = clean re-install. Could be totally unrelated, or the issue with the BSOD could be also triggering the update choke. Seriously Doubt attempting the update, (which is not completing) is behind the BSOD.
What's wrong with firing up the install USB and Shift+F10'ing it into the Command Prompt, and use the Tools that you already have? Again, have we fallen so far as a society that nobody knows how to read anymore?
does hiding it prevent my system/microsoft from downloading the update completely too and not just hide it in the background? because as i can observe, it still downloads the update and then install fails(observing my ssd write speed, it is actually downloading). i dont want it to download some megabytes everytime i turn on my laptop.
No the only People with the "old skool" WUS are all on Enterprise. Which you can't have as a Home Gamer as you'd need access to a KVS (IIRC) server. The most you can do again IIRC is prevent the update from happening for a maximum of 90 days (again IIRC), then it will install itself, wanted or not. This was another feature that made Windows OS X (or 10 if you can't or won't get the joke.) that was lost in the chatter about all the crappy spying Microsoft were starting to do, and as far as I know are continuing on with in Windows OS XI. It's enough to make one use Mint Linux.
Disregard that Linux junkie's post. YOU CAN hide this update PERMANENTLY using microsoft's Hide Updates tool that Brentech explained earlier on when this faulty update first came out. And your system WILL NO LONGER attempt to download it. Windows Update ONLY FORCE DOWNLOADS CRITICAL UPDATES AND NOT OPTIONAL ONES. Microsoft made this update an optionnal one because of the issue it is having that they will not fix. IF HOWEVER they DO fix it, it might get rolled out as a Critical update at which point the system will force download it.
@@Cahos_Rahne_Veloza That's not how I remembered reading it when Windows 10 came out, yes you can postpone an update temporary. As a rule 7 day, of upwards of 12 months. It's been a while since Ive had the displeasure of Windows, but my Hackintosoh came to a temporary end with the current release killing all the older Broadcom (Apple WiFi Cards), and the new Laptop is currently running WinXI ATM. Between the Spyware nuisance, and the enfoced updates. Like the aforementioned one in the Video, (There were many more going way back to the halcyon days of XP Pro. Where you could go to the theregisterdotcosotuk and, get the lowdown ov that months patch Tuesday set to ignore. But, thankfully it's all gone as WAAS now, and you don't get to pick and choose which updates you want. They just throw out what they want, and see what sticks. Oh your Win X is broken. Just upgrade to our most secure yet Win X. This is why Microsoft can't make money selling Windows anymore. The cash is in selling your on-line soul.
Well this issue might be perfect explanation why some of users didn't update to win 10 at all and don't feel less safer.Only difference win 7 backdoor open to everyone,win 10-win 11 backdoor open only to MS & key sold to highest offer. Simply put:info worths nothing if everyone has access to it.
I have two primary working desktops, one 10 one 7, and you'll have to pry my 7 Ultimate from my cold dead fingers. It has good AV and no PII. It logs in to almost nothing, certainly no email, social media or banks.
more than ignore it i think the best thing is to download the tool to hide it, is easy to use, not as complex and risky to brick your PC as the other "solutions", and you forget this Microsoft's flop even exists.
@@FermiToll does hiding it prevent my system/microsoft from downloading the update completely too and just hide it in the background? because as i can observe, it still downloads the update and then install fails. i dont want it to download some megabytes everytime i turn on my laptop.
@@brentech No it's like if doesn't exist, it doesn't show anymore nor try to download, but you need to get that Tool to hide it, is official from Microsoft, i think in this channel there was a video with the instructions, but not needed, is very easy to use.
If MBR disk, step 5c was added to ensure the partition id was set correctly (need to set it correctly again after the format) But as Bren says here, usually can get away with not having a Recovery Partition
MS updates should verify what it needs to work first... 😬 So, the size needed to be checked and confirmed before any errors...!! ... then give info on what went wrong, how to move forward, etc... 🥱
The thing this update is trying to fix would be useless to the average home DESKTOP user because of the reason Brentech mentions near the end. But, IF you're an average home user who owns and uses a LAPTOP the thing the update is trying to fix "Might be" useful as IT IS easier to steal a laptop. Nontheless the steps Mkcrosoft is asking the average Joe To know is kinda over expecting a lot from their users.
Again and, let's be nice here ... Unlike as the case is with *nix code Microsofts How to is clear, and legible. I see little here that could throw someone off. ASSUMING they have a Fourth Grade reading level. The examples of how the correct Partition should read back as has been given the caveat that your address may vary. BUT OTHERWISE should look very similar. If a normie ran into this shituation, and was otherwise unable to follow a simple HOWTO, they should probably get a Mac, and God forbid you should introduce them to Linux.
@@Ichijoe2112 See, this is EXACTLY what Brentech was talking about. You L33T folk calling those who are not within your level as "normies" therefore unworthy to own a computer is the problem. You assume anyone who can not follow Microsoft's instructions as having below 4th grade education is grossly rude. How about parents who grafuated Elementary Education, High School and even College who may/or may not have High paying jobs who did NOT learn such things? Or Grandparents huh? Fun fact for you pal, I have a friend who works as an Anchorman for a Broadcasting Network and the only computer knowledge he knows how to do is making Excel Spreadsheets and Word Documents. But ask him something as easy as reformatting his computer and he calls for tech support. A Musician friend of mine uses Sony Vegas on a daily basis but doesn't know what a EUFI BIOS is. Bottom line, those you call "Normies" are far more plentiful than you L33T folk are simply because you can not step off your high horses 😛
Microsoft should be on the hook for a class lawsuit because they knew before they issued that update that the recovery partion on many users pc's would not be large enough and they sent it any way. That would be like Ford/cheverolet/Bently selling you a car for $50,000 then coming over the next day bashing the windshield out and telling you theres nothing you can do about it.. It almost seems like microsoft may have done this to users intentionally to try an force them to upgrade to windows 11 cause they were mad because users aren't adopting win 11 very fast.
Not only users aren't adopting Windows 11 fast, but the number of Windows 11 users has started falling just like it happened with and 8.
@@Hardcore_Remixer correct the global stats have confirmed windows 10 usage is going up
@@Hardcore_RemixerWindows 11 ain't bad though one thing I'll say. Just don't update to most latest version immediately. Otherwise 11 is decent
@@Hardcore_Remixer when microsoft arbitrarily decided that my current machine wasn't capable of running 11... that's on them. I KNOW it is. It far exceeds the specs with a single exception. 5th gen Intel CPU. But it's an extreme CPU, 8 cores/16 threads and easily runs everything I throw at it. Still 5 years after building it. If that's the sole reason, I'm NOT building a machine based on that.
I know I can force it and it will run fine. But decided screw it, they don't want me on 11, I'll grant their wish.
I think they say it's not large enough because they have no idea why it actually fails on so many computers, I wonder if mbr2gpt sometimes fails to set the correct ID for the recovery partition because that's the only thing remotely related to partitioning a disk that I did to my Windows SSDs *after* installing Windows 10 in MBR mode many years ago.
If the partition ID is *Basic data partition* (EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7) or *Windows Recovery Environment* (DE94BBA4-06D1-4D40-A16A-BFD50179D6AC) it worked fine on two of my computers with the default 500MB partitions created by the Windows 10 installer, even if in one of them the partition ended identified (mbr2gpt?) as a "normal" *Basic data partition*
On the computer I'm using right now I "only" had to delete the 788MB recovery partition and recreate it again to install the patch back in January, the partition is the same size as it was before but I'm not sure which ID it had before, I suspect it could have been changed to *Microsoft Reserved partition* (E3C9E316-0B5C-4DB8-817D-F92DF00215AE) because it was hidden on Disk Manager and now it shows a recovery partition, but before reading the instructions to install this patch I wasn't even aware of GPT partition IDs so I think only mbr2gpt could have done it... unless Windows 10 is self-sabotaging!
Imagine what this does for the average user: "what's a partition?" Doing anything with partitions is _dangerous_ territory for such users.
This isn't the 1990s anymore, and anyone smart enough to make their way here or to just go, and Google it would quickly figure it out..yeah Nana, and Gramps not so much. But, that's what they got you for.
@@Ichijoe2112the fix for manually shrinking your primary partition and then expanding your recovery partition involves using the command line where one typo, misplaced space or comma could be catastrophic.
@@smashed_penguin That line of thinking pretty much applies across the board a.k.a life. I think the trick here is to measure twice, and cut once. Again it's called reading comprehension. You can either do it (i.e. read the fine manual), or deal with it, and reinstall from scratch.
Also what happened to off PC / Site Backups? Apple has Time Machine, Linux has rsync, doesn't Windows not have something along that line? If you're not running some kind of Backup NAS in this day, and age then you deserve to lose your data IMHO.
Nobody wants to be such a condition. But being in one, ya can either hopefully deal with it, or finding a way to deal with it.
Either way if you can't deal with this HOWTO, written as it is, by some Microsoftie Rep. Then we need not suggest something more intense like Linux, or Opencore Hackintosoh.
Again the secret is to crank out the old Max-iPad / Phablet, hit up the HOWTO and take it line by Line, perhaps taking a few side trips on how to use Diskpart. And accept that your RE Partition will be close, but absolutely NOT the same as the example. It would also be noting that you probably want to avoid the larger Partition(s).
there will be a time when average users will require basic OS knowledge before operating windows 11 lol
Funny that Mucrosoft says "some PCs might not have a recovery partition...large enough". - I frequently do new installs of Windows 10 Pro, with a copy downloaded from them and I always have this hiccup because their setup formats the HDD with a partition that is too small. I have integrated into my process the steps of resizing the partition before I do updates just to avoid the error. - Maybe Microsoft could fix their installer?
When I installed windows I made a recovery image of 18.6 gb and was never effected by this update.
It definitely was not only the recovery partition size because somehow I ended up with one triple the size of my old version and it’s still throws the error.
Wonderful report, thank you.
The updated fix didn't work for me. I'm probably doing something wrong but thank you for assuring me that it's okay to skip it.
Just hide the update as it is not needed.
I have two Windows 10 installs on two separate drives, on the install that has a recovery partition the update failed. On the other drive the update was successful, but guess what, there isn’t even a recovery partition on that one, so that doesn’t make sense and on top of that it supposedly failed to include one when I installed that second Windows. 🤦🏻
Shouldn’t have happened in the first place. Useless update.
The average Joe end user shouldn’t be told to mess with partitions.
Easy enough fix for someone like me, but not everyone can follow those instructions and could risk messing up the system.
Back in January, had this fault arise. Seemed like a good excuse to upgrade my drive and do a clean install. Problem solved. For anyone really bothered by this issue, I have suggested they do the same or similar; what it costs in a bit of hardware, it saves on time spent backing up and praying. Luckily, it only affected one machine.
followed that guide some weeks ago and all it did for me was create an entirely new small partition with the exact same name
which didn't solve anything lol, so I deleted that and left it alone
I've seen some say if you don't have BitLocker enabled, then you shouldn't worry about this update. I simply hide and ignore it.
I followed the instructions in the Microsoft link you provided, took me less than 5 minutes to complete. Pretty clear and simple instructions, surprisingly.
that's not the problem, microsoft shill. the problem is we are not supposed to solve a problem they created, much less using scripts and commands that potentialy could brick your pc.
Hey Brent! I was wondering if you recommend the K-Lite Codec Pack Full with MPC-HC video player? I've read that MPC-HC is a better video player than VLC. Which video player do you personally prefer?
MPC-HC is objectively better than VLC. The VLC interface is awful. You don't need codec packs anymore. MPC-HC has LAV Filters already included and you can install system-wide LAV Filters yourself for everything else.
VLC
hey thanks for this. I might try the steps but considering you said its ok to ignore the update, I may just do that. my only question is, will this update prevent future updates from being installed? I.E will it always try to install this update first and if it fails it wont install the ones next in the queue?
that's what happened to me, I ignored it but other updates would stay on pending and not update. Then next boot the computer wanted me to install windows 11. So now I run Linux Mint.
This requires your device to have the recovery partition after the OS partition.
What happens for the users that don't have this?
The recovery partition in some PC's is in the begining of the disk, far away from the OS partition and between them is the EFI partition
and in some cases, there is a reserved partition too. So, for common users this will be a huge problem!
You can fix it by deleting the old partition, resizing the main partition and then make a new Recovery partition, but it's quite a process, definitely not suited for your regular user. I suspect it was an intended move by MS to get people to upgrade to win11.
@@Bareego Exactly!
I have a 674mb recovery partition with 64mb used, ample space for whatever MS has in mind
More bloat more ads more snooping more glitching then?
768MB for me.
I thought that it not only had to be someone getting physical access to your hard drive but that you also had to have bitlocker enabled for this to even be relevant?
Windows problems are very easy to fix- change over to Linux.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Please remind the Class what the Problem (In this Conversation), was again?
If the Dolt in question can not be ares to read as well a scripted HOWTO how TF could you expect them to read Linux code off of a Board somewhere, when they need to self install some Wi-Fi / nVIDIA Card?
Big talk. I owe a lot of my Skript reading ability to having, ran a Gentoo server, as a VDR Mediacenter, about Ten or more yonks ago. A real PITA it was, and made slower by being on a dual core C2D. But, being thrown down at the deep end, ya either learn to swim, or ya drown.
The last time that update failed my laptop started booting on dim and I had to mess around with virtual memory settings to fix it.
This worked for me...thanks!
This year: Conservatives X, Labour X, Other YES! This year I'm going Linux. Goodbye to you pathetic, sleazy Microsoft, this was the LAST straw, I WILL NOT go Apple, so it is Revolution for me!
Clean install your Windows 10 fixes this. 💯
I'm planning to reinstall win 10 using MediaCreationTool_22H2. Will this solve me problem?
Interesting... I'm reinstalling using MediaCreationTool_22H2. Will it work for me?
It's for bit locker. I do not have bit locker on my Home Version.
this update produced a bluecscreen on my pc. shutup10 on full disable settings fixed it. only downside is the manual update check evey now and then or on urgent security news.
This update I didn't got that error message on my laptop it want successfully but my dad's Desktop can't download from that error
I had this issue with this KB update file. After awhile MS put this file in my optional update list. Just went on my Win chk for updates, and it's completely gone. After looking at my update history. All the failed attempts are gone as well. Lucky me. BTW - It did bother me a little.
Would upgrading to Win11 by in place upgrade solve this without needing to manually resize that partition?
Yes
This is shamefull from MS, on a clean install the OS ifself will auto create a 500MB recovery partition and MS releases and update that they have to know will fail unless the recovery partition is 750MB. Then they take 4months to says Opps you will have to manually fix it yourself!
I did a clean install on the weekend i ended up with 546MB recovery partition.
my recovery partition is 4GB and located to the right of the OS drive.
The 500GB SSD is MBR.
so......then....?
Since it failed, It won't install any updates after it, they also fail. If I hide it, will that behavior cease?
It's worth a try...
I it's been since Jan so... can't recall if, maybe, briefly, other updates failed, but currently I get all other updates just fine. and I only see this pos when I manually check. otherwise Windows update, now, always shows "...up to date"
My recovery partition is 4 GB and located exactly where it's supposed to be so as far as I know, my only plan-b it to ignore this.
This is just not a "clean-install" level problem for me.
What is the harm in providing automated solution for the KB5034441 problem?
They can easily check the resources and check the hard disk space to perform the resizing with the available space. And for those it is not possible even after this automated check, then display the list of resource not available with the individual users. Can't they make it (Microsoft)?
Windows update messing with the partition table is too much liability for MS.
Imagine a power failure during the process.
@@incandescentwithrageCompletely understandable.
@@incandescentwithrage Understand the gravity of this update. But, it may be available along with warning. It may have some legal consequences, but in the modern world still relying on manual processing seem weired.
I am facing BSOD around the same time this update failed, I am confused is BSOD due to this or some other hardware issue
probably, yes. but it could just as likely be some SW/OS corruption as HW. 90% of the time, BSOD = clean re-install.
Could be totally unrelated, or the issue with the BSOD could be also triggering the update choke. Seriously Doubt attempting the update, (which is not completing) is behind the BSOD.
There is also Aomei Partition Assistant… but I’m not sure if they have a free version? … might require a purchase?
ya i used tht in January it easily resized
What's wrong with firing up the install USB and Shift+F10'ing it into the Command Prompt, and use the Tools that you already have?
Again, have we fallen so far as a society that nobody knows how to read anymore?
@@Ichijoe2112 I as a lifetime Windows sufferer have read the runes this year and they can F royally OFF! Enough is enough.
does hiding it prevent my system/microsoft from downloading the update completely too and not just hide it in the background? because as i can observe, it still downloads the update and then install fails(observing my ssd write speed, it is actually downloading). i dont want it to download some megabytes everytime i turn on my laptop.
No the only People with the "old skool" WUS are all on Enterprise. Which you can't have as a Home Gamer as you'd need access to a KVS (IIRC) server.
The most you can do again IIRC is prevent the update from happening for a maximum of 90 days (again IIRC), then it will install itself, wanted or not.
This was another feature that made Windows OS X (or 10 if you can't or won't get the joke.) that was lost in the chatter about all the crappy spying Microsoft were starting to do, and as far as I know are continuing on with in Windows OS XI.
It's enough to make one use Mint Linux.
Disregard that Linux junkie's post. YOU CAN hide this update PERMANENTLY using microsoft's Hide Updates tool that Brentech explained earlier on when this faulty update first came out. And your system WILL NO LONGER attempt to download it. Windows Update ONLY FORCE DOWNLOADS CRITICAL UPDATES AND NOT OPTIONAL ONES. Microsoft made this update an optionnal one because of the issue it is having that they will not fix. IF HOWEVER they DO fix it, it might get rolled out as a Critical update at which point the system will force download it.
@@Cahos_Rahne_Veloza That's not how I remembered reading it when Windows 10 came out, yes you can postpone an update temporary. As a rule 7 day, of upwards of 12 months. It's been a while since Ive had the displeasure of Windows, but my Hackintosoh came to a temporary end with the current release killing all the older Broadcom (Apple WiFi Cards), and the new Laptop is currently running WinXI ATM. Between the Spyware nuisance, and the enfoced updates. Like the aforementioned one in the Video, (There were many more going way back to the halcyon days of XP Pro. Where you could go to the theregisterdotcosotuk and, get the lowdown ov that months patch Tuesday set to ignore. But, thankfully it's all gone as WAAS now, and you don't get to pick and choose which updates you want. They just throw out what they want, and see what sticks. Oh your Win X is broken. Just upgrade to our most secure yet Win X.
This is why Microsoft can't make money selling Windows anymore. The cash is in selling your on-line soul.
@@Cahos_Rahne_Veloza🗿
How do we ignore this
Well this issue might be perfect explanation why some of users didn't update to win 10 at all and don't feel less safer.Only difference win 7 backdoor open to everyone,win 10-win 11 backdoor open only to MS & key sold to highest offer. Simply put:info worths nothing if everyone has access to it.
I have two primary working desktops, one 10 one 7, and you'll have to pry my 7 Ultimate from my cold dead fingers. It has good AV and no PII. It logs in to almost nothing, certainly no email, social media or banks.
why not show how to do it?
okay, so I don't have to do this if it is needed? so I can ignore it?
okay just finished vid, was answered in the vid. :)
more than ignore it i think the best thing is to download the tool to hide it, is easy to use, not as complex and risky to brick your PC as the other "solutions", and you forget this Microsoft's flop even exists.
@@FermiToll does hiding it prevent my system/microsoft from downloading the update completely too and just hide it in the background? because as i can observe, it still downloads the update and then install fails. i dont want it to download some megabytes everytime i turn on my laptop.
@@heyykenn9099 It will not continue to download automatically if you hide it.
@@brentech No it's like if doesn't exist, it doesn't show anymore nor try to download, but you need to get that Tool to hide it, is official from Microsoft, i think in this channel there was a video with the instructions, but not needed, is very easy to use.
@@FermiToll ye i did that was just asking if i was needing to worry about it or not
Looks the same as the old instructions, what was changed?
If MBR disk, step 5c was added to ensure the partition id was set correctly (need to set it correctly again after the format)
But as Bren says here, usually can get away with not having a Recovery Partition
MS updates should verify what it needs to work first... 😬
So, the size needed to be checked and confirmed before any errors...!!
... then give info on what went wrong, how to move forward, etc... 🥱
The thing this update is trying to fix would be useless to the average home DESKTOP user because of the reason Brentech mentions near the end.
But, IF you're an average home user who owns and uses a LAPTOP the thing the update is trying to fix "Might be" useful as IT IS easier to steal a laptop.
Nontheless the steps Mkcrosoft is asking the average Joe To know is kinda over expecting a lot from their users.
Again and, let's be nice here ... Unlike as the case is with *nix code Microsofts How to is clear, and legible. I see little here that could throw someone off. ASSUMING they have a Fourth Grade reading level. The examples of how the correct Partition should read back as has been given the caveat that your address may vary. BUT OTHERWISE should look very similar.
If a normie ran into this shituation, and was otherwise unable to follow a simple HOWTO, they should probably get a Mac, and God forbid you should introduce them to Linux.
@@Ichijoe2112 See, this is EXACTLY what Brentech was talking about. You L33T folk calling those who are not within your level as "normies" therefore unworthy to own a computer is the problem. You assume anyone who can not follow Microsoft's instructions as having below 4th grade education is grossly rude.
How about parents who grafuated Elementary Education, High School and even College who may/or may not have High paying jobs who did NOT learn such things? Or Grandparents huh?
Fun fact for you pal, I have a friend who works as an Anchorman for a Broadcasting Network and the only computer knowledge he knows how to do is making Excel Spreadsheets and Word Documents. But ask him something as easy as reformatting his computer and he calls for tech support. A Musician friend of mine uses Sony Vegas on a daily basis but doesn't know what a EUFI BIOS is.
Bottom line, those you call "Normies" are far more plentiful than you L33T folk are simply because you can not step off your high horses 😛
I know how to, but that doesn't mean I enjoy doing it