Sobbing to THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING | First Time Watching
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- Sobbing to THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING | First Time Watching
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⭐J. R. R. Tolkien created such an incredible piece of work!! And Peter Jackson completely brought it to life. We loved this!!! Here is a playlist of our Lord of the Rings journey for the first time: ruclips.net/p/PLA6WuU8DE2LaIZXT4NAncX7WqhoTndW9P. Also, here is a link to our FULL reaction: www.patreon.com/tktopmovies
According to Tolkien: Smeagol was River Folk, "Not unlike a hobbit". Hobbits are from Hobbiton, within which is the Shire, but Riverfolk lived along side the river. Simular people groups, but distinguished from Hobbits.
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Oh. You’re going to need to add this to the poll: Behind The Scenes Documentary. They are literally the length a film would be. It’s a true passion project never before seen before. Even today! Bringing together several teams and groups. And the thing is all the way down to WETA workshop and the actors were all lovers of the source material and truly revered and honoured Tolkien. ❤
There is another film to also watch before the hobbit titled “Tolkien”
@@autonomouspublishingincorp8241 not exacly :) though it was similar to what you said. Hobbits at first, in their "prahistory" got 3 groups or clans - Fallowhides (most adventurous and nomadic forest dwellers, archers and hunters, most similar to elves in looks and friends with elves), Harfoots (avoiding adventures, more settled, villagers and farmers with some skills of craft, friends with dwarves and most "dwarvish" in looks), Stoors (living around lakes and rivers "Riverfolk", fishermen but also farming) mostly trades with men. Gollum was from Stoors. When the hobbit migrated from the east of the continent (from the areas south of Mirkwood, which is the homeland of Legolas) to the west of continent - to the Shire (in Arnor kingdom - they were given the Shire by Argeleb II, king of Arnor), they mixed up, intermarried during this journey. And this migration was long - it was not less than 3 centuries before they established their own land. Some of them tried to settle in Dunland - the place where in TTT we can see those men who allied with Saruman and attacked Rohan, but the Dunlendings probably did not want them there and this group of hobbits migrated north to the Shire in 11th century of 3d age. the Shire was established about 15 century of 3d age and the LOTR is set in 3019 of 3d age, so at this point Shire exists already for 15 centuries. And so when they established Shire those 3 groups were mixed and got the new family names according to who was settled where. For example the Brandybucks family (Merry's family) settled on the banks of river Baranduin (in elvish) which the hobbits called Brandywine and so Brandy in their name is from this river. Brandywine is main river in the Shire. Thats why such name as Brandyfoot in Amazon TV show is totaly absurd - these nomadic hobbits from this show can not have such names becouse they are not settled yet on the banks of Brandywine :)
"My friends, you bow to no one" murders me every time even after all these decades.
Murder death kill. Every time. Viggo delivered that line to absolute perfection.
THIS... also can't believe they didn't include that in this edit ffs!
@@wibblewobble1934 Alright, they'll keep their secrets.
Who's cutting onions
Every! Single! Time! 😭
42:23 Fun fact: When Aragorn was hidden in Rivendell as a child, he was known as "Estel" which is Elvish for "Hope"
Also some of the last words of Aragorn's mother before she died was "I gave Hope (an obvious reference to her son's nickname) to the Dúnedain, I have kept no hope for myself."
"i will not say: do not weep! For not all tears are an evil"
great reaction!!!! genuine...thank you for sharing
What I tell people before their first viewing of this trilogy.
People overlook merrys story as well. He always had that fighting spirit to fight for his friends. But he was always looked upon as the small little hobbit who had no place in a battlefield. He was never able to show how much he cared until Eowyn who saw herself in merry believed in him and took him into battle. They were both always turned down the chance to fight and show how much everything mattered to them, because they were seen as small or weak. But in the end they took down the greatest threat on the battlefield, the witch king of angmar, which was prophecised that no man could kill. The prophecy obviously came to be true because like Eowyn said "I am no man". Even if in people's eyes you are seen as weak, or small and that you don't have anything to offer if you believe in yourself and keep going you can achieve greatness.
While what you said is true but I think another reason they both weren’t allowed on war was because with Eowyn she needed to take care of people left behind. This was simply not just the war of two kingdoms but it was the war of mankind, their whole species. Eowyn had to look after her kingdom in case something happened to her uncle and brother in war. In case of Merry, while Theoden did accept his blade but he just saw an innocent foreign land fella and a foreign species child at that in him that he didn’t have a heart to sacrifice in ‘his’ kind’s war.
I love how you picked so many times where hope is the theme. A thing I miss a little from the books is how one of Sauron's greatest power is the spreading of despair, which makes Hope one of the best weapons against him.
The thing about Denethor (Boromirs and Faramirs father) is, that he too had a palantir (like the "crystal ball" that pippin looks in). And just like Saruman he at first used it to try and spy on Sauron, to figure out his next move etc. But Sauron knew this and showed them things that made them lose hope. It made Saruman decide that the only way forward was to join Sauron, and Denethor went mad with despair. Gondor was the kingdom closest to Mordor and thus they have been fighting Saurons orcs for longer than anyone else. Sauron kept feeding Denethor information about how hopeless the situation was, and in the end Denethor believed it. He has lost all hope. The reason he is going to burn Faramir and himself alive, is that he feels it is the better way to die, since he "knows" that Sauron will win and they are all going to die anyway....
Denethor might never have been a particularly warm and likeable guy, but he too was corrupted by Sauron and his power of despair... I feel the movies does him a bit dirty by not explaining that...
As a teenager that struggled a lot with my mental health it made a huge impact on me how Hope wins over Despair in this story ❤ Such a comfort. ❤ It was my comfort read during all my teenage years, and sort of still is (it's been a few years since I read them now though).
"Hope wins over despair" YES!!!!! Thank you for watching with us, Anne!
Yeah the movies definitely didn't do justice to Denethor. Probably one of my least favorite things about the trilogy is how contemptible they made his character instead of showing him as a stoic leader who had tragically lost hope through decades of continuous fighting with the forces of mordor and brainwashing from Sauron.
One of my favorite cinematic parallels is the two shots of Frodo looking back over his shoulder at the camera.
The first one is after they escape Moria and after Gandalfs death, Frodo is wandering off by himself, this is when the journey gets real for the party and Aragorn calls to him and he does that slow turn towards the camera and just has this painful sorrowful look on his face.
The second as at the end of this movie where he's boarding the ship to the undying lands, after saying goodbye to everyone, he does that same slow turn over his shoulder back at the camera, he has matured with the pain he endured, and wants his friends to remember the smile he gives them one last time, but the smile doesn't reach those same exhausted sorrowful eyes.
Amazingly subtle acting and such gorgeous shots, I always make note of the two every time I watch the movies.
I absolutely agree 💯
It gets me every time 😢❤
I love how Tolkien described Sam fighting shelob (giant spider) in the book;
No onslaught more fierce was ever seen in the savage world of beasts; where some desperate small creature armed with little teeth alone, will spring upon a tower of horn and hide that stands above its fallen mate.
I saw these movies in the theater and the screech of the Nazgul was assaultly loud.
Hey Coreo! Ooooh, I bet it was so loud with the speakers in the theater. We saw that Return of the King is coming to theaters very soon for a 20th Anniversary showing??? We would love to check it out!
@@tktopmovies seeing this on a big screen with proper sorround sound system is another level experience I assure you :)
@@tktopmoviesI was so thankful that my hubby and I could go! We were both too young too see it in theaters when it originally released. But our very first date was Hobbit: The Battle of the 5 Armies in IMAX-3D (tells ya who we were 😂). After 7 yrs of Long-Distance dating (lots of "there and back again" driving trips for visits), we got married in 2021. Seeing ROTK on the big screen this year is one of our favorite and most meaningful dates we've been on since "I do"! 🎉 Did y'all get to go????
Of all the people I've seen react to the LoTR trilogy, I loved both of your reactions the most, thank you for watching this timeless masterpiece!
Thank you so much for enjoying this journey with us!!
Glad you guys enjoyed these movies. It’s always great to see people love these movies. I’m sure it’s been mentioned that the two children at the end of the movie are Rosie and Sam children in real life. Recently they posted a picture of them all grown up.
Very, very few movies hit as hard and as deep as this trilogy does and I'm glad to see you two recognize its cinematic mastery and its timeless themes. This is what it looks like when every person involved has a deep love for the source material and wants only to faithfully translate it to film as honorably as they can. A thing of beauty.
Sentry fires were common in the old days..as in England..to send warnings of invasion..generally along the coast...to the inland cities and a call for help...
🌿🌿🌿
I'm glad yall loved it so much. Lookin forward to seeing the hobbit soon
25:28 You've seen "that guy" from the Two Towers. He was second in command to Faramir.
When Faramir agreed to free the Hobbits, that guy said "You know the laws of our country. You know the laws of your father. If you let them go your life would be forfeit."
You think you are crying now, but when you learn more and more about the lore of Tolkien and what everything meant. Then you tear up all the time. For example, the time in the first film when Gimli tells Legolas what Galadriel gave him, and Legolas smiles. It is so moving because Legolas knows what an honor Galadriel's gift was. Before the First Age of Middle Earth, one of the greatest elves asked three times for a hair from Galadriel. And all three times she refused because she knew that his heart was not pure. Which proved to be true, as this great elf would later in the beginning of the First Age cause the first kinslaying. When elves fought elves. And now, a humble dwarf asked the same thing the great elf asked. And this time, Galadriel not only grants his request, but gives him three. Makes me tear up every time.
After the Return of the King, Legolas and Gimli would travel Middle Earth together. Then Legolas and Gimli both sailed to the Undying Lands where Frodo and Galadriel were. And thanks to Galadriel, Gimli would be the only dwarf allowed to enter the Undying Lands.
Onwe thing I hadn't even realised:
gandalf went with 3 eagles. One for Frodo, one for Sam, one for Smeagol.
I’m glad I stayed up way too late to watch your reaction. I hope you both will make it a tradition to watch these every year. I guarantee you that no matter how many times you watch them, you will learn new things and still cry throughout the journey.
Thank you SO much for watching with us :)
The Lord of the Rings is the epitome of "it's not about the destination, but the journey" (and the friendships you form along the way).
Mardil, the second in command that gets killed by Gothmog (the orc captain with elephantitis) was actually in The Two Towers, he discussed the situation of Rohan and Gondor with Faramir over the map and the one who says: "You know the laws of our country, of your father. If you let them go, your life will be forfeit.".
One thing I feel the need to point out, the beacons are not (just) a "we're with you", that's basically the one way they have to transmit one (and only one) message over the mountains by anything but rider (which is obviously not going at speed of light and might get killed on the way), and "we're under attack!" is basically the onlymessage worth the effort of supplying all those people in the middle of nowhere.
Next Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin:
(1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition
(2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition
(3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
Yes!!!!
In the extended edition, after the ring is destroyed there is still an entire movie length of movie left to go. But it feels so cathartic.
One of the best reactions to this movie I've seen. Really enjoy you both!
If you remember way back in The Two Towers, "Smeagol promises to protect Master." Smeagol made that promise on The Precious, the One Ring. Some argue that bound the promise to the Ring, so when Smeagol broke the promise by attacking Frodo and stealing the One Ring, that triggered the promise and caused Smeagol to fall to his death, accidentally taking the ring with him.
37:37 GROND! GROND! GROND!
The purpose the final battle at the Black Gate of Mordor was to distract Sauron. Aragorn believed in his heart that Frodo was still trying to get to Mount Doom. He knew the battle would be hopeless, but he wanted to give Frodo that extra chance to destroy the Ring.
Funny you guys kept mentioning "hope". Aragorns elvish name is Estel, meaning..... you guessed it! Hope! :) Love these movies and books.
What's often overlooked, is the amount of time frodo has the ring in his possession. He had the ring for 18yrs. 17 yrs kept secret and safe and 18 months one he left the Shire
That is correct in the books. The films changed this. It is not shown how much time passed after Bilbos 111th birthday when Frodo gets the ring and the time when Gandalf returns after his research and tells Frodo that this is the One Ring. But it is not 17 years more like some months.
Samwise Gamgee: Best. Friend. Ever. Everyone had important parts to play, but this mission simply doesn't happen without Sam The Gardener. A truly amazing character.
I just discovered you guys with this video. Great reactions, and you have a new subscriber!
I think Smeagol was one of the River Folks..not actually a Hobbit..similar but not the same...🌿🌿🌿
He was a hobbit, but not from the Shire. He’s a type of hobbit called Stoor/River Folk.
Most hobbits from the Shire are a type called Fallohides.
Ya, I believe he was a type of pre hobbit known as a Stoor.
Both the Witch King and Gothmog are played by Lawrence Makoare, who also played Lurtz in Fellowship. Unlike with Lurtz (especially naked Lurtz which took nine hours to put on all the prosthetics), it took only four hours to turn him into Gothmog but The Witch King was a breeze compaired to both as it took only 20 minutes to get the costume on. Gothmog wasn't in the original script and aside from redesigning (or rather adding) the orcs to make them scarier comapired to the rabble seen in Fellowship and Towers, Peter Jackson felt that the orcs were too annynomous that they needed more character and have more precessence of the bad guys other than Sauron and The Witch King, so they made Gothmog (the name is mentioned in the book but it's not mention what race Gothmog was, only that he took over command of the troops after The Witch King fell, he could have been a Black Numénorean like The Mouth of Sauron, one of the Nazgûl or an orc officer, Gothmog was also the name of the commander of the Balrogs in the First Age). Jackson wanted him to have some growths on half of his face a la Jospeh Merrick AKA The Elephant Man and Bill Hunt, one of the Weta designers, put a lot of clay on the sculture in order to make Pete say "Okay, that's too much, now tone it down." but to his surprise Jackson said "Perfect!". Some of the orc stunties and extras that didn't new Makoare called him "Pimplehead" behind his back due to his deformed look.
The Witch King had a different helmet design, based on a John Howe painting, which had a bucket-like helmet with tall spikes. Some of the studio people who haven't read the book mistook The Witch King for Sauron and he looked too different from the hooded Wraiths, so the helmet got redesigned for the pick-ups in 2003. His spike club were changed into a flail (errorously refered as a mace or morning star in the documentaries) after Jackson wanted a bigger weapon so the designers made the flail bigger and bigger until it was unveildy to use preacically (only the handle was pratical for the swinging of the flail, the chain and spiked head were CGI as it was too heavy even for Makoare to lift it with one hand, referring it as "damn heavy"). Sir Richard Taylor, the head of Weta Workshop though it was so embarressing that he hid it in his jacket when bringing it to the set. Both DP Andrew Lesnie and Jackson got to try to swing the practical flail, the former almost hit Directing Assistant Carolyne Cunningham's leg and the latter got the handle caught his in jacket arm, pulled up his shirt from his shorts and nearly made him fall over. Taylor asked Jackson if it wasn't a bit excessive but he replied "I think it's 50 percent too small!".
The Witch King was voiced by Andy Serkis (who played Gollum and Sméagol and also voiced The Witch King and the other Nazgûl dialouge in Fellowship, Uglúk, the Uruk-Hai captain, Snaga the Orc, the one who wanted to eat Merry and Pippin, and the Maggoty-eaten bread Uruk in Towers) while Gothmog was voiced by Craig Parker who played Haldir in Fellowship and Towers.
Their reaction at the end, crying and laughing at the same time. Yes, guys. Exactly.
That battle troll that Aragorn fought against was originally Sauron when they shot it. He was going to be even bigger than before and fight Aragorn. After a few attacks, the Dark Lord knocks him down and is about to kill him when he senses Frodo putting on The Ring at Mount Doom. Aragorn would have then impaled Anduríl through Sauron's belly but he barely reacts to knocking him down once again. He'd raise his sword to finish Isildur's heir off but when The Ring melts, a light glows from the sword, he'd wraithe in pain before his armor would twist before he finally explodes. This was changed as 1. It didn't happen in the book. 2. Jackson and the others felt like it was a repeat of Sauron fighting Elendil and Isildur in the prolouge of film 1. 3. It took away the courage of Aragorn sacrificing himself and his men in order to give Frodo more time. But Aragorn still needed to fight something in the battle, so the battle troll was put over Sauron in those shots (the only new element shot was the one with Aragorn stabbing the troll's food with his dagger in order to make it lift up but doesn't).
Before this Sauron was going to appear as Anatar, a fair elf-like form that Sauron took on when he managed to convince the Elf King Celebrimbor of Eregion (whose runins you see the Fellowship walk past by in film 1 during The Ring Goes South chapter) to make The Rings of Power, and presented the Nine and the Seven to Men and Dwarves respectively. He'd tried to ensnare Aragorn but on Gandalf's urging he sees through him, then Anatar would turn into Sauron and the battle began. A few of the shots were used when The Eye of Sauron challenges Aragorn before the battle began.
When it came to the scene were The Ring was going to be destroyed, at first Frodo was actually going to push Gollum over the edge to finish him off but it went against Tolkien's idea of the sparing of Sméagol was the very thing that made the Ring being destroyed. Secondly, they shot what happened in the book where Gollum is so overjoyed of getting his precious back that he danced and then steps too far and falls down into the lava. This felt anticlimatic and too accidental (though Tolkien said that it was Eru Illuivatar, the god of Arda, that made that Gollum fell over as it was fate doing it, that is hard to convey on film without having to explain the whole thing), so they used the current version where Frodo attempted to get the Ring back (like Sméagol and Déagol did at the start of the movie) and the struggle caused them to fall over. Also, The Ring was going to physically be melted by putting a ring over molten metal simulating lava but it wasn't convincing enough so it was done digitally instead. First the Ring was going to just melt and then Sam would get Frodo to take his hand, but it felt it went too quickly so the shots were intercuted instead and the lettering on the Ring would light up, as a way trying to resist being melted until Frodo makes the decision to not let go.
The lighting of the beacons is a great scene, but manning a beacon post must be the crappiest job in the military.
Great watch along guys! I binged all 3 watch alongs with you tonight. LOTR is very special to me and your reactions were sweet and authentic.
My favourite parts were when She (sorry havent caught your names) would sneeze and he would say "bless you" haha so cute. Really fun time guys. thanks :)
This a very long read.
The spider in the movie was called Shelob and that's what Gollem meant when he said 'She could do it' in the end of part 2. And the creatures that the Nazgul werre riding on were creatures form an older world whose kind, still lingering in forgotten mountains cold under the moon, outlived it's time and there in a hideous eagle's nest hatched this last untimely brood, bent on evil. And Sauron took it and raised it on wild flesh until it was geater than all other things that fly, and he gave it to his servant to serve as his steed.
After the ring was destroyed:
Frodo left Middle Earth, so that he may be fully healed. He was still able to feel the wound on his arm from the sword at the beginning, plus for being the ring-bearer and it nearly consuming him like it did Gollum.
Aragorn returned Gondor to it's former glory, and ruled happily with Arwen for 120 years. He had one son and two daughters. When his time drew near, he chose to take command of his own end. We laid in the House of the Kings in Minas Tirith with Gondor's past rulers and drifted into eternal sleep.
Arwen passed one year later.
Gimli became the Lord of the Glittering Caves under Helm's Deep, as it was rich with Mithril. He kept his word to Galadriel, and encased the strands of hair within glass and treasured it.
Legolas restored the woodlands of Middle-Earth that were ravaged by the war, along with adventuring with Gimli. After Aragorn's death, Legolas made a ship of his own in Ithilien, and left Middle-Earth to cross the sea to reunite with the rest of the elves in the Undying Lands. Gimli crossed the sea with Legolas, due to his close friendship with the elf, and was the only dwarf that was offered that honor.
Samwise married Rosie and had 13 children. He was also elected Mayor of the Shire for seven consecutive seven-year terms (49 years.) Afterwards, Sam was given passage to the Undying Lands to reunite with Frodo, as Samwise was also a Ring-Bearer, even for a short time.
Pippin became the 32nd Thane of the Shire, and held that position for 50 years. He had one son named Faramir Took I, who later married Sam's daughter. After he retired as Thane, he left with Rohan and Gondor with Merry. He remained there for the rest of his life, and was entombed in the Hall of the Kings, and later moved to be laid to rest alongside Aragorn.
Merry was knighted by King Eomer and become Master of Buckland. He married, and wrote a book. He had at least one son. At 102, he returned to Rohan and Gondor with Pippin, dying around the same time as Pippin. He was laid to rest in Gondor with Pippin, and later moved alongside Aragorn.
I first read Lord of the Rings when was 10 years old (It took me a week) and many times since so I knew the story inside out by the time I saw the films. (Okay, there are some differences between the two but books never translate exactly to film). I find it really interesting to watch the reaction of people who have never experienced Middle Earth before. I'm so glad you enjoyed it, and yes, I ugly cry whenever I watch it too.
I’ve watched every single reaction of this movie that i could find here on youtube, and i like yours the most 🙂
They remind of real life hobbits. Such an adorable couple. A real life Sam and Rosie.
For what it's worth, in the books, after Aragorn's death, either Mary or Pippin gets buried with Aragorn in the Royal crypt. And after Aragorn's death, Gimli and Legolas along with Sam goes to join Frodo in the undying lands.
This trilogy made me believe that I, too, can make an impact on the world around me.
I learned how to celebrate my every-day victories, even if they may seem insignificant.
These movies mean a lot to me and I’m glad your reactions did these movies justice. Thank you.
Can’t wait for your reactions to the Hobbit Trilogy 💙
Nope. Smeagol was taken by the ring far from the Shire. It was properly in Dunland, a lot closer to the backwaters of the Anduin.
I'm crying here with you.
that hey fought the last battle was to catch the attention away from Frodo and the orks out and the frase "for Frodo" was not because they knew he died but 'for the benefit of Frodo and Sam'
The only fantasy movie to win best picture. They swept the Oscar's too. Imo this is the greatest trilogy of all time. I love lord of the rings and the world and lore that Tolkien created. Its timeless
I wish some bigtime producer/director had the stones to do the same for Robert E. Howard's works, as Jackson did for Tolkien. Howard, like Tolkien, had created complete fantasy-world of sword and sorcery around the same time (1930's), and it's arguable that Howard influenced Tolkien in writing high-fantasy. However, Tolkien was a Brit, and Howard was a Texan, so...
In the movie Tolkien, he is a little overwhelmed by the first world war but his batman gets him through... I wonder if that's the beginning of Sam in his mind
And now you know.............the greatest work of imaginative fiction ever written.........and the finest movie trilogy ever filmed..........what a joy The Lord of the Rings is, and its been a pleasure watching you folks enjoy it for the very first time......its a set of movies you can watch over and over again.. and the books, well, after buying my first copy of the book in 1970, I've read it at least once a year almost every year since then...I think I'm on about my fourth or fifth copy!
You guys are really enjoyable to watch
Thx for your reaction to this epic trilogy !! Two small things , when Aragorn kicked the helmet at the burning pile of corpses he actually broke his toe 😂 and when Legolas shot the arrow and Gimley hit his bow and missed who he was aiming for , well the guy he hit was actually the man himself Peter Jackson !!
You just said 'Aragorn's the hope for Gondor'. As a child his name was 'Estel', which means...
Great reactions! Glad you enjoyed it.
Great reaction! Welcome to the LOTR club!
The most epic of the Trilogy. Theoden's speech before the charge... Ah, always chills
Similar to Shakespeare's Henry 5th speech at Agincourt
Definitely action-packed and emotionally moving at many points... but I always felt it was more of the Return of the Jedi of thid trilogy, and the Two Towers was The Empire Strikes Back. There was just so much more tension and complexity in the Two Towers. And better dialogue. RotK was basically one long climax.
In all honesty though, I don't even consider them separate films at the end of the day.... it's really one long 9+ hour movie.
This movie had so many awesome lines that will always stay with us
@@CoryGasaway in no way shape or form should return of the Jedi ever be in the same sentence. Return of the king is in another stratosphere. The only thing good in RoTJ is Palpatine Vader Luke stuff. Every second of return of the king is awesome.
@@mattrasp1615 I agree that RotK outclasses RotJ but that's because of the source material. Every second? The Extended Edition of RotK contains some of Peter Jackson's most aggravating changes from the book. Eg the skull avalanche on the Paths of the Dead is totally unnecessary and tonally out of place, more Indiana Jones than Tolkien. In canon terms, it's ridiculous, there weren't millions of Oathbreakers. I also dislike Gandalf falling off Shadowfax when confronting the Witch King in Minas Tirith - in the book Gandalf holds his ground because he's a Maia, more than a match for the scariest ghost in Middle-earth. Then there's Aragorn freaking out when he confronts Sauron through the Palantir, an encounter he wins in the book.
Gandalf hitting Denethor violates the high code of honour that all Tolkien's good guys live by, as does Aragorn beheading the Mouth of Sauron.
Denethor, a complex and difficult man in the book, is turned into a one-dimensional villain in the film, and his tragic suicide becomes an ugly farce.
But the absolute worst is Frodo believing Gollum over Sam and sending Sam away. It's the climax to Peter Jackson's trashing of Frodo throughout the whole trilogy. 😥
I don't mind omissions and compressions. I think that PJ truly did an amazing job on so many levels. It's because he did such an amazing job that character assassinations like the above hurt the more.
I laugh every time Treebeard greets Gandalf as "young master Gandalf." In England, the term Master refers to a young unmarried male, the equivalent of Miss. It's a witty mechanic to show Treebeard's ancient age.
Hahahah aww that is so true!! Love that!
@@tktopmovies His name is Fangorn and the forest is named after him. He’s over 15,000 years old. ;) you’ll love to react to the immersive lore videos (some have interactive maps too) omarioRPG did the same thing and loved it so much. Wish he continued though. Moviejoob did the same as well. It’s already becoming a theme and I wish to continue inspiring people to dive deeper. You’ll never regret it ❤ I’ll provide links to wherever you desire to start with. Heck. I’ll even create a playlist for you of videos and just watch from top to bottom. How’s that?
Due to reading Tolkien in original (but at first in translation) I m also aware of the fact that "master" means two things - unmarried male ( in earlier times it was a person of higher class ), but also "master" as master of art or master scholar or master of craft. Thats why Elrond is called (by Bilbo) Master - not becouse Elrond is young and unmarried (as he is old and married of course) but becouse he is greatest loremaster in the area :) Its the medieval equivalent of professor I guess :) becouse "magister" in Latin means the same - "master of craft" or "master of lore".
In the book Gandalf tells Theoden, "When you see Treebeard, you will learn much. For Treebeard is Fangorn, and the eldest and chief of the Ents, and when you speak with him you will hear the speech of the eldest of all living things." "Fangorn" is the Elvish (Sindarin) for "Beard (of) Tree."
Which is hilarious since Gandalf is older than arda itself 😂
"I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you!" and "My friends, you bow to no one" after 20+ years, those two scenes still make me ugly cry every time I see them. 😭
I hope you will give The Hobbit trilogy a watch soon. It is Bilbo's famous adventures (during which he found the one ring) that took place 60 years before Frodo & Sam's epic journey. We get to meet a bevy of new characters (the dwarves are very fun to watch), visit new locations of Middle Earth, & see a few familiar faces too. 😊
There's much more celebration of the Hobbits in the book. An honor guard of all the various forces that fought in the War lined the road leading up to Minas Tirith greeted them as they entered the city & an honest to God minstrel of Gondor recited the Tale of Nine Fingered Frodo & the Ring of Doom. Only a few words were recorded by Tolkien but with a poem that lasted most of a day surely there were verses about Samwise the Brave in there.
Marquette University in Milwaukee, Wisconsin that has a large collection of original manuscripts and drawings from Tolkien. I had the absolute pleasure of getting to chance to see a selection of them that were on public display last year (one of the greatest days of my life, if we're being totally honest), and one of the pages was a handwritten draft of the "you bow to no one" scene. The ink was smudged in places because Tolkien himself cried while writing it. If that's not proof of how emotional that scene is, I don't know what is ❤
"Don't go where I can't follow" 😭
Tolkien was traumatised by his experiences in the first world world. He was at the battle of the Somme, which was horrendous. During the war Tolkien noticed soldiers carrying their injured friends, risking their lives to save their comrades. This was the inspiration for the scene where Sam carries Frodo up Mount Doom! 😢
Actually it was 77 years from the Hobbit. 60 years to the party of bilbo and 17 years between bilbos party and Frodo and Sam's departure on the fellowship of the ring
I always think about how nuts it is, realistically, that Théoden agrees to help Gondor. Not even political, etc. but his people literally just went through the Helm’s Deep battle and he still makes the impossible decision to put his people in danger, again, because it’s what has to be done. Oof, what an incredible character. Also, incredibly performed by Bernard Hill.
that's the beauty of Tolkien's stories, he created a universe where these values such as loyalty, friendship and doing the good deeds just for the sake of good are a key component of the characters
Apparently, on the last day of filming for Bernard Hill, who played Theoden, Peter Jackson gave him Theoden's helmet and sword to keep.
Rohan is bound by oath to aid Gondor.
The land was granted to the Rohirrim 500 years before the War of the Ring, by Cirion, the Steward of Gondor, after Eorl the Young led the Rohirrim out of the north and saved Gondor in a major battle.
Each swore to always aid the other.
So Theoden is honouring that alliance, regardless of whether Gondor had been able to honour their side of the oath.
Someone else already mentioned the oath both nations swore to each other, but another reason was logic. If gondor falls, there is no one else that can stand against the might of sauron. Théoden had the choice to risk dying now or face certain death in the future. He was also an old man who wanted a glorious death. He rode out of edoras expecting to die charging the orcs in the westfolds, but was told the battle there was already lost and to head to helms deep. He then planned to die in the seige but he survived. Finally he was given another chance to die with honor, so the he could dine with his ancestors, "in whose mighty company he need not now be ashamed."
I love this full story, but the thing I find so ironic about it is that everyone on the battlefield things Frodo’s the hero. But if Frodo had his way, the ring would’ve been his, and the ending to the story would be completely different. Not that I’m blaming him, one of the reasons why he couldn’t let go of the ring is mount doom is where the rings power is the strongest and Frodo carrying the ring for so long was at his weakest. If it weren’t for Gollum, stealing the ring and falling into the lava with the ring in his hand, things would’ve been different. I actually see Gollum as a tragic character. He was a decent being until the ring got to him. The evil of the ring took over. but it’s the best ending ever, everybody has a happy ending. That’s what I love the most about it.
The ring caused great physical and emotional damage to Frodo and Bilbo the undying lands were the only place for them to heal...many years later even Sam joined them for he was a ringbearer for a short time...
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It's, debatable, if Sam ever met Frodo again. Some argue that the Undying lands are not suitable for mortal beings, they actually die faster there.
It is said that Frodo and Bilbo didn’t get to the Undying Lands itself, cause they couldn’t bare to se the Maiar and Valar in person without getting an instakill. So they stayed in an island close enough to there
@@mantovaniflpnot the instakill 😭
Ya there was the island of tol eraessa where they stayed
So glad you guys enjoyed it. It's hard to explain how good these movies are to someone who's never experienced them. Now you two are LotR vets. ❤
Hey Jeremy! Thanks for watching with us :) And you're so right about that---people need to experience the films to truly know what it's about! I'm so glad we did!!! All the love
Watching you guys having a mixed reaction between crying and giggling at each other after the ending was so unbelievably sweet 😂❤
Awww haha thank you for being on the journey with us!
Here's something even deeper, that most people who haven't read the books yet often miss in the movies. In the 1st one, inside the mines of Moria Frodo says "It's a pity Bilbo didn't kill Gollum when he had the chance" . Gandalf replied to him "It's pity that stayed Bilbo's hand... ...Many who live deserve death, many who die deserve life. Can YOU give it to them? Don't be hasty dealing judgement, not even the wisest can know everything before the end "
As we all saw, without Gollum the ring couldn't have been destroyed and that says something about being merciful. Also, Frodo knew the moment he fell into the crater that he had failed the mission a few seconds ago. He momentarily looked down into the lava, but Samwise urged him to "Don't let go!". Later, when everyone bowed down to them, during the coronation, you can see the bitterness in his face, feeling he was somewhat undeserving of all that, as he couldn't do it on his own. That was part of the reason he had to leave for Valinor, The Undying Lands at the end, he was deeply scarred both physically and mentally after his journey and that was the only way to heal. This I think speaks a lot to the veterans of war and everyone who has gone through very traumatic events.
Tolkien's books are indeed very deep and the movies managed to showcase this brilliantly, even though they had to cut and change several stuff.
What's funny is that all three movies are about a journey to destroy the ring. And only one character ever actually TRIES to destroy the ring and fails. And it's not even Frodo. It's Gimli, way back at the Council of Elrond, before the quest even started.
@@Mcvthree3 Gimli is my favorite character from the fellowship. He just sort of trudges along in the shadows behind Aragorn and Legolas, but at the same time he goes on more of a personal journey than the others. His story arc is more varied.
@@butnooneshome Gimli Elf-Friend, the only Dwarf to be welcomed into the Undying Lands
Tolkien understood PTSD well, which is basically what Bilbo, Frodo, and eventually Sam needed relief from.
@@manicmsRegarding PTSD... Tolkien fought in the Battle of the Somme in WWI, where 3 million men fought(both sides) with 1 million casualties(dead and wounded)... I think he was VERY familiar with PTSD! 😳
Yeah so Frodo left because he was forever scarred by the ring, and so the elves granted him and Bilbo a very special privilege of traveling to the undying lands with them.
Another great reaction guys and with all due respect to Peter Jackson and his team you’re correct, there is more to Middle Earth than this movie. Saruman was not always bad, Gandalf mentions it in The Fellowship, “my old friend” and “when did Saruman the wise abandon reason for madness?” If you both need more of Middle Earth, The Hobbit is the prequel and will shows how Bilbo finds the One Ring. Ma te wa (until next time) from me and mine in NZ🇳🇿, to you and yours, take care and be safe always 🔥🔥🔥
John, that is so nice of you to say! Thank you so much for watching!!! The story is genius. We really loved it!!
One overlooked line that kills me every time is Elrond telling Aragorn that Arwen is dying. I always found it poignant because being immortal Elrond knew that regardless of the outcome of the war his daughter would die in what an immortal elf would precieve as a very short time but losing the war would mean her death would come much sooner. A choice he fully understood as he had to make a similar choice - he and his brother made a similar choice years prior. He chose the immortal life of an Elf. His brother chose the mortal life of man. This is the second time he lost a loved one in this manner.
I always felt bad for Elrond in that aspects. His daughter would die sooner any normal elf would do.
Arwen’s life being tied to the life of the ring at this point was not in the books, this was a story device to increase the tension in the movie only & I didn’t like it. Just as I didn’t like what they did w/Faramir’s character (Boromir’s brother). PJ & co were so worried the ring needed to enslave everyone they couldn’t let Faramir keep his honor. Biggest pet peeve in all the movies for me, lol!
"They're all reunited, the fellowship! ALL of em!"
*cries in Boromir*
But in seriousness, I really enjoyed your reaction! This movie throws so much at you that it's easy to miss stuff, but you guys paid attention to all the details. This story is so important to me and so many fans and it's always a joy to see others fully connect with it emotionally. Thanks for sharing with us!
Aw Boromir :( :( :( Thank you so much for watching with us, Dan!!! This was such a wonderful journey that we absolutely loved!!
It's a lovely bit of symmetry that the first thing Theoden saw when he awoke from Saruman's spell and the last thing he saw before passing was his niece, Eowyn.
And also the naming itself where Theoden and Denethor are anagrams and they represent the two types of "rulership" where Theoden is recognized his own flaws but did everything for his people while Denethor was the corrupted weak ruler only wanting to rule for himself without any conciderations of the people.
Yes, and both times he says the same thing. "I know that face".
That feeling of uncontrollable sobbing is universal. I don't think I've ever seen someone invest the time to watch this trilogy and NOT cry/tear up at the ending. Absolutely adored this reaction trilogy from y'all ❤️
Me: Surely I won't cry while watching your reaction, I have seen the trilogy like twenty times.
Also me: Crying like a granny at her granddaughter's wedding.
LOL
Great reaction! And I guarantee you'll cry even more if you watch it again. The storytelling was epic. There's another reacter, Magic Magy, she was bawling at the end because she so loved the universe Tokien created, she didn't want it to end. She cried for a long time after the movie ended.
These movies do stay with you as each character was richly done, and imagine the depth of each of them with their own backstory.
Just so touching and moving! Love the themes in the story
If you watch The Hobbit movies (not nearly as epic as this trilogy but still good) I hope you react to the end credits song which is sung by Billy Boyd. This song and Annie Lennox's Into the West are perfect closures to Peter Jackson's work.
And now you know why this movie won a record 11 Oscars.
Your reaction was amazing and I cried right a long with you! I'm so glad you loved it! Thank you so much for taking us all with you on this journey! The very first time I read J.J.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings Trilogy, was when my father handed me the books when I was 11 years old.
So I sprawled on my bed and began to read, with no expectations or idea of what was to come.
I have no memory of the passage of time for next three days...I don't even remember food or daylight or dark.
All I knew was the Road I was on and the gentleness of the Shire and the horror of the Ringwraiths.
And the ease and peace of Rivendell contrasted with the desperate, hopeless plans they laid there.
The long dark of Moria, and the time spent out of time in Lothlorian...
The deep sonorous voices and the endless depths in the eyes of the Ents.
And the leap of the flames of the watch towers across the mountains. And the charge of the Rohirrim, and the desperation of the last battle in Mordor.
The heartbroken failure and stunning redemption of one small hobbit...
And the lesson that you cannot always go home, and that sometimes you can only save things for others, but not for yourself...
And then the gentle shock of the ending - "Well, I'm back."
And then I sat back down and read it straight through all over again.
And that is Love.
So, decades later, a group of friends and I went to see a random movie, which to this day I have no memory of what it was.
Because as we walked across the foyer, heading for the popcorn concession, I glanced up and saw one of the giant banners that advertises movies yet to come, suspended from the ceiling...and my heart stopped.
It was a single, simple image.
A somber young face under dark curly hair, holding up a gold ring in the palm of his hand.
I was across the floor standing under the banner, and gazing up at it with tears starting in my eyes and my heart pounding.
I knew it was Frodo holding the One Ring before I ever saw the words "The Lord of the Rings" across the bottom.
I swear my heart stopped. I knew instantly from the power of that image, that whoever was the director, the studio, the driving minds behind the production, they were going to get it right.
My friends had to circle back - having acquired my popcorn, bless them - to drag me into the movie we had come to see.
Which I haven't the faintest memory of to this day, because I was actually off in Middle Earth, instead of a darkened theater.
So when day FINALLY came that I was sitting in the opening of The Fellowship of the Ring, and we came to the scene where all Hobbiton opened out before Gandalf's horse and cart, green and golden in the light, with the rolling hills of the Hobbit Holes...
I started crying right then and there.
I was home. And my heart knew it.
That is my home.
It always will be.
Ditto. But I was the one who had read the book to my elder daughter as her bedtime story for a year.
When we learned that Peter Jackson was going to direct - I said "Peter who?".
I so wanted these movies to be done right. And from the first moment, I knew that that they were going to be. And they were.
I cried. A lot.
So beautifully said, Cameron! So glad you enjoyed!!!!! Love hearing your story of discovering this masterpiece!
Oh, hon, you expressed my feelings so beautifully. In times of trouble and stress, I would always return to the Shire for comfort, feeling each character’s journey with renewed insight, and always weeping unashamedly at the end- not all tears are an evil. There were so many lessons that I could apply to my own life and I always left the Shire with renewed hope.
I believe it is the best story ever told. All these different races united against evil...that's a powerful message! And as Galadriel says even the smallest person can change the course of history. I cried with you guys! Love your reaction! ❤😭
Well let's be real, the painting of Eastern men is problematic. Even with Faromir's speech in the Two Towers, the visuals and characterization of Eastern culture is very poor. And even though Tolkien didn't mean for the Dwarves to come across as antisemitic, it still does in some aspects. Such as them liking precious gems.
@@ooiiooiiooii Bro wtf are you talking about? What part of this story is eastern in culture? This is a FICTIONAL story, about FICTIONAL characters, and FICTIONAL places. Are you ok??
Hi Marie! Thank you so much for watching with us :)
@@ooiiooiiooii Look, I found the person who doesn't understand Tolkien. Seriously, whatever ideology is rotting your brain like this, do yourself a favor and quit it, it's unhealthy.
@@SapperSapperSapper fictional story predicated on prejudiced and racist beliefs. Tolkien himself said he wrongly compared the greedy dwarves to Jews. Get your head out of your rump , sweetie 😂
One of the best lines in the movie for me was Gimli and Legolas dialog:
- Never thought I'd die side by side with an elf...
- What about side by side with a friend?
- Yes, I cound do that.
Think of how their relationship started, deep hatred and mistrust and how it ended. Amazing.
you are both such wonderful, empathetic reactors. I like that instead of cracking jokes like other reactors do to get clout you chose to be sensitive to the meaning and themes of lotr. sending you both love ❤
This is so nice 😭❤️ Thank you so much!!!
This reaction had me enchanted, seriously there’s nothing more incredible than seeing people watch and fall in love with these movies for the first time. 😄 And it’s amazing how it just never gets old. What hurts the most is that the journey ends, but we’re happy that it happened. Can’t thank you both enough for bringing us this amazing reaction! 👏👏👏
This is such a kind comment
After the movie is over, 2 minutes of straight speechless, uncontrolled laughter. That is how you know a movie was simply magnificent. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to relive our first watches through you guys. I really enjoyed yalls reaction because it just seemed so sincere.
Hey Drew!!! That is so nice to hear :) Thank you so much for watching!!
32:58 gotta say the book was more clever with sending Merry and Eowyn to the war. When Merry was hoisted onto a horse, he didn’t recognize the rider. The rider called himself Dernhelm, and Merry thought it was just a clean-shaven young man. That remained the case for a long while. Merry and the reader don’t find out who “Dernhelm” is until the climax with the Witch King in the battle.
But admittedly, this works better in a book than in a movie. You can get away with pretending that Merry doesn't recognise Éowyn. Fooling the audience into thinking this is not her is a lot harder, especially given the fact that she didn't really have the time to come up with a disguise. Like, if she had been able to stick on a false beard, they might have been able to pull this off.
@@sailiealquadacil1284 yeah they wouldn’t have been able to conceal the identity of tiny little Miranda Otto 😝
I still prefer books, but I think Jackson did amazing job to deliver Middle Earth to wide audience, not only to books lovers.
@@jahu5440Jackson also made the correct choice in having Theoden’s final conversation as he dies be with Eowyn and not Merry. Like I get Merry is awesome, but Eowyn deserves that conversation and goodbye to her beloved uncle more.
Disagree. The scene in the movie is better. When Merry says, "My Lady", that exemplifies her honour.
"It's all about love and loyalty, and hope. That even in dark times, there's hope." You two have perfectly summed up my favorite story. I've spent a large chunk of my life devoted to storytelling because of this feeling that you're sharing. I'll never achieve anything like this, but that's okay, because of what it taught me, and what you've now learned anew. There's always hope. Good job.
Hi Vaughn!!! Thank you so much for your kind comment
The fact that in the beginning the group of hobbits was dancing, singing, cheering and having fun, but by the end they are sitting quietly drinking. The journey changed them forever.
I believe the line of the Stewards began in 2050 when the last king didn't return from a battle with the Witch King of Angmar. and left no heir. The war of the ring took place in 3019. Denethor had one of the Palantiri (seeing stones) and, just as Sauron showed Arwen dead to Aragorn, he showed Denethor only utter defeat. It drove the Steward to despair and to madness.
A nice bit of info you may not have noticed, but remember when Eomer was basically ripping into Merry because of his size and how he would flee from battle when the horror takes hold? Well, because he helped Eowyn kill the Witchking and saved her in the process, Eomer ended up letting Merry ride on his own personal horse alonside Eomer at the battle of the Black Gate. Shows how much he respects Merry after the battle of Pellenor fields.
I just discovered these reactions yesterday. This is so great seeing the reaction from people that knew nothing about the story. It shows me that Peter Jackson translated the books better than I thought. The pacing of the book is different, Frodo is older in the books (not old, but older), and there were a number of other changes. But the themes, for the most part, came through…and it’s great to see you pick them up. Poor Gollum. If not for Gollum, the ring would not have been destroyed. Years before, Bilbo had the chance to kill Gollum but showed him mercy, having pity on him. If Bilbo had not shown mercy…the ring wouldn’t have been destroyed. Note the mercy theoden showed wormtongue also led to Saruman’s fall.
The books (and films) showed the power of mercy, hope, and humility.
There is SO much backstory to these tales….so much history. Tolkien said that middle earth was our earth, the place is not imaginary. The history is.
Gandalf with three eagles, just in case Sméagol survived. He knew Sméagol would play a significant role before the end. In the books, there is so much more story after Frodo leaves for the “Undying Lands”, the rebuilding of Middle Earth and friendships however, the final scene of Sam, Rosie and the children is what makes the ending the most appropriate and satisfying from an audience and movie standpoint.
No. It was 3 eagles because one carried Gandalf. That is just a fan made theory.
@@di3486 yes 3, I’m sure that’s what I said? Gandalf rode the eagle that carried Frodo, the second eagle carried Sam and the third eagle was for Sméagol. Thanks for clearing that up.
@@johntepu1869 No eagle was for Sméagol. That’s a fan theory based on the movies.
@@di3486 of course all the fans can’t be right, it’s a fantasy film (make believe) that definitely explains why Gandalf ONLY took 3 eagles and not all 8? I guess you’re the expert
@@di3486I wrongly assumed we were talking about the Jackson’s movie version, not the Tolkien book version. Please accept my humble apologies
Considering how much you enjoyed this amazing trilogy (when you're ready) you ought to check out the extensive footage on the making of this masterpiece.
^^^^ YES! I’d watch a react to that too!
you guys are amazing, i haven't felt this way since the first time i saw it!
Aw Rich! Thank you so much for this kind comment :) You're amazing!!! Thank you for watching!
The Edge of Night uses Tolkien's lyrics & Billy Boyd's original composition to create a song that's both beautiful in its own right & a counterpoint to Denethor's disgusting table manners. One of the finest scenes in the trilogy, a tribute to the Professor.
And in the third Hobbit movie, battle of the five armies, Billy even sings the end credit song, "the last goodbye". In fact Billy Boyd is mainly a singer and musician rather than an actor.
17:58 so you got a good understanding that Denethor is the Steward. There’s a nice detail when Gandalf and Pippin enter his hall, he’s not sitting on the throne. He sits on a humble wooden chair at the foot of the throne. Even though for long now Stewards were essentially de facto kings, they still observed the ceremonial niceties of being subordinate to a true king.
Yes!!! So glad the comments on the last movies helped us out with that! Denethor was like the "placeholder" until there was a King. Gosh, this movie was awesome. Thanks for watching with us!
I have to mention that my daughter pointed out that Gandalf brought three eagles, in case Smegal had been saved, too. Broke me! LOL😅 Also, Sam knew that Frodo didn't destroy the One Ring...Gollum did...going back to Gandalf in the Mines of Moria talking about Bilbo's pity and that Gollum may have some part to play...so much, so deep...
Hey Diane! Oh my gosh....3 eagles!!!
@@tktopmovies Their names were: Gwaihir "Windlord", Landroval "Broad Wing" and Meneldor "Heaven". It was Gwaihir who saved Gandalf from Saruman 's tower, but even he The Great Eagles of Manwë could not bear Frodo while he was in possession of The One Ring.
Galadriel's Phial(Frodo’s Gift) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Feanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Valar & Morgoth the first Dark Lord. wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife. after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed; the Silmarils were the only light from them left. they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first true halfelven. And Elrond’s father!) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Earendil as its guardian. the fountain of Galadriel's
Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it.
The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf father. His father was the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin! ❤️
To understand a bit more about Eärendil we must now look at Elrond(Eärendil’s SON) To clarify things about Elrond & his daughter Arwen and therefore we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, they both were half-elven brothers who can choose to be mortal or immortal because of their parents(Eärendil and Elwing) both half elven made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age. Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand. After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died. But they didnt die. Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor. He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children. Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was a few thousand years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤ & the neat thing about this is that it’s essentially a purer version of the silmarils even though they were always holy objects with a sort of life of their own which as much of history moved around them so to speak ❤️
Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there!
When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West. Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter! They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh
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By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old AND nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years (solar years for them) they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does. Essentially. Which is why they are so I synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them ! Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda)
The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf father. His father was the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin!❤❤❤❤
I love these books/movies and it is always a delight to see other delight in them. You two had such a great response !
A note about when Pippen looks in the palaltir...
Sauron was waiting for a hobbit to be found. When Pippen saw Sauron in the stone, Sauron presumed that THE hobbit with the ring was captured by saruman, but saruman stopped communicating at that point (the stone was taken but he lives a bit longer in the books). He presumed saruman was a traitor and sent a nazgul to find out. When he arrives he finds isengard destroyed by men and ents. The next day Aragon looks into the stone, and so sauron thinks the heir to the throne has taken the ring for himself, and before he is ready to attack feels that he must before Aragorn can use the ring against him. pippen actually helps out so much with his curiosity! A major theme for Tolkien is the constant suspicion of evil that destroys itself.
The victor is not some greater strength than evil, but loyalty, as you said. Fidelity is the ultimate power for tolkien. So glad you were moved by it!
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch the journey with us!!!!
Smeagol wasn't exactly a nice guy even before he killed Deagol to get the ring. That's why it snared him so fast.
Christopher Lee argued with Peter Jackson about the sound Saruman should make when he gets stabbed. Christopher Kee ended the argument when he told Jackson that he actually knew what it sounded like. Christopher Lee was in WWII as a spy, etc and unfortunately experienced it. Lee was also the only person on set who'd actually met Tolkien in person.
The audiobooks narrated by Phil Dragash (not sure of spelling) fir The Hobbit and LOTR that I listened to fir free here on youtube were amazing. Afterwards I got all of the ebooks plus I had the 3 volume paperbacks of LOTR that my great-niece found in a box of books and gave to me. Don't have a paper copy of The Hobbit yet though.
Eowyn loves the romantic *idea* of Aragorn and what he represents to her..freedom..more than she actually loves him like Arwen does.
Unfortunately the tunnel IS really the only way fir them to sneak into Mordor.
Shelob and Aragog. 2 of the scariest spiders in literature..and I'm not even scared of spiders.
46:39 never happened in the book. I think Jackson just wanted to make the Witch King more intimidating.
What happened with Eowyn and Merry abd how Aragorn healed them as well as Faramir is explained more in the books
Don't worry. We all cried too.
Smeagol and Deagol are cousins and a pair of ne'er-do-wells. Smeagol in particular was a sneak thief. They are Stoor Hobbits who lived by the River Anduin
I think strictly speaking Tolkien never identifies them as cousins, only friends. Could be wrong, maybe I missed some detail in the lore. Then again in their small community everyone would be related, like my best childhood friend is also my 2nd cousin haha.
Your subtle reaction to the bowing scene was amazing man. I could see the tears beginning in your eyes. All men feel the emotional impact of that scene
I was crying with you ! This story is fantastic ! ❤
Thanks for watching with us :)
Smeagol & Deagol are cousins I believe.
Pardons if this has been mentioned but Smeagol's eye pupils are large while Gollum's pupils are very small. Cool effect when they converse back and forth.
That is such a cool diverse effect!!!! Loved the back and forth between the two. Thanks for watching with us!
Sam's "I can carry you" line shoulda been an Oscar right there
One of the things that always gets brought up in the Return of the King. Pippin and Faramir became very good friends after The War of the Ring, Pippin eventually marrying and calling his eldest son Faramir Jr. There are some changes to Faramir from Film to Book, and the Theatrical version of the film really does not do his character justice at all. This is somewhat alleviated with the extended and definitive editions of the films. However i still hold him in such a high regard after reading the original books.
That's right, Frodo couldn't throw the ring into the volcano. No one could do that. Sauron knew that because the Ring has its greatest power here. In the book, Gollum "tripped" and fell into the volcano with the Ring. Some claim the God of Arda Eru Ilúvatar personally intervened here.