Woke up yesterday to about 20 Merry Christmas texts. Woke up today with absolutely zero Happy Kwanzaa texts. Most of the people defending Kwanzaa don't even celebrate it or know what it entails. They just know it's the "African American" holiday.
@@aaronrealerxwell funny enough…I ate Chinese yesterday and 90% of the restaurant was black people…and they were very friendly and guess what a lot of them said to me ? “Merry Christmas!” But hey maybe they just said to themselves “she’s white so I’ll tell her merry Christmas instead of happy kwanza” …who knows. But if I were to put my money on it…I’d guess they all celebrated Christmas.
I thought it was boxing day, or maybe that's just in europe. I still don't know what boxing day is but I learned about today from my Jewish therapist funnily enough.
I don't know ANY African Americans. I do know a whole lot of Americans whose heritage is African. But they are Americans just like all the other American citizens. Merry Christmas to al my fellow Americans.
you can pretty much tell right away how an interview is going to go just by how the person sits down and the first words out of their mouth. Also, leftists never smile or look happy.
They just took their cheap shot. When you eavesdrop on half a conversation between two people, and you hear a phrase or word you don't like, so you initiate a negative interaction with them. Then try to take the high road and instigate a fight.
@AndrewWilliams-ry6tb Only examples I can give is a violent individual or group engages in violent acts and uses the statue existence an excuse. Only smooth brain or people who agree will go along with that stupidity. Or Someone or group engage in violent acts, and the spectator/reporters misrepresent the violent actors' actions attributing it to a statue. Basically, liars gonna lie their asses off at every opportunity.
I had a coworker in my company, an engineer from Nigeria who was here in the US for some specific training. He asked me, "What is this Kwanzaa I hear about?" I told him blacks were celebrating it as an African event. He called home to Nigeria, and his friends and family asked around. He later reported to me that no one knew what Kwanzaa was, they had never heard of it, either. Turns out it was fabricated by a guy here in the US.
This young man clearly has a very bright future even if hes wrong about some things hes clearly very intelligent, polite and willing to have an actual conversation
He is a moral relativist, how does that make him intelligent? I mean he basically just said that no matter the morality, history, or context of a holiday, if people wish to celebrate it then its just as good of a holiday. That doesn't seem very intelligent to me, considering how many f*cked up pagan holidays have existed. Wish crowder would have brought up some of them maybe this guy would realize that there is and should be a limit on what is or isn't an acceptable holiday. I believe there is a quote that goes 'Its easy to go through life believing everything or nothing, as neither view requires critical thought', this guy is the believe everything part of the story.
The kwanza is the currency of Angola. Four different currencies using the name kwanza have circulated since 1977. The currency derives its name from the Kwanza River. Africa doesn't celebrate a holiday named Kwanza.. It's purely an American thing.
It was created in the 1960s by a black college activist professor. I learned about it in school but also was taught it was created and wasn't ever an actual African holiday.
I live in East Africa. Can confirm, nobody has even heard of it here, even highly Western educated Africans I know. People are very very religious here. Both Christians and Muslims (the good kind)
That right there is what this NATION WAS FOUNDED ON… WE AS AMERICANS SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO DISAGREE AND YET PUT OUR PERSONAL DIFFERENCES TO THE SIDE TO PROTECT SOMETHING WE ALL SHOULD LOVE… OUR COUNTRY!!!!
Agree 100%. The problem is that a large portion of our country is being punished legally and financially for having our own standards and beliefs that don't align with the agenda of the media and government.
At some point, our country presents as fractured based on key distinctions in perceptions on history, recency, and foresight. How do those get reconciled? How do peoples who are so different come together and maintain a union perceived similarly between parties? Hard mode: no "muh Jesus"
@Shaman196 Christianity is the basis by which this nation along with its foundational laws were created. However, most of the issues we have today have nothing to do with religion. A large portion of the American population are just flat out ignoring facts and logic, which has nothing to do with religion. People are just complete idiots these days and our government is taking advantage of that.
Yet it’s so dumb seeing this baiting wanting to get a rise out of people. Tell me what the point of this video is? Who cares if someone celebrates any holiday? Stay in your lane and let people have freedom. Religious freedom is something I support and crowder and his base should look into. Otherwise he can go F off to Canada again, he’s and immigrant and we don’t like them right?
Though I don't agree with what this young man was saying, I respect that he stuck to his guns and didn't get confused of flip flop or try to change the subject when Steven made a counter point. Also, he sat there and allowed Steven to educate him on a point before making a statement. That shows true intelligence. What school was this? All of the students were very polite also. Props to everyone involved in this interaction.
That was a refreshing example of disagreement that didn’t devolve into a “so-and-so destroys so-and-so” video. I love seeing open discussion between people with different points of view.
This is the first young person I’ve seen sit down with Steven who came off as truly brilliant the entire time. He was very measured and calm in each of his responses / retorts and also in each of his own questions. Well done… A genuinely productive discussion from 2 completely different perspectives.
I like this guy. I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but he's calm, polite, respectful & very smiley, he's also consistent - I can respect that.
That young man had an open, honest and respectful dialogue while keeping it civil. Even though they had differing opinions he was able to acknowledge common ground in their arguments and express his opposing opinion. He will be a productive member of society with a lot of upside in his professional career.
The founder of Kwanzaa also broke a Chanukah menorah to make the first Kwanzaa candle holder, too. I'm Jewish and find that HIGHLY disrespectful. If they had asked some Jews if they could use an old menorah? Okay. But as far as I know, they didn't. They just found one and broke it. I'm not okay with that. So that's another misdeed to add to their already numerous crimes.
I'm just glad that the young man was pleasant and respectful. There was a lot he disagreed with and I think he was incorrect on that, but I absolutely appreciate it is affable nature and his willingness to have an actual dialogue with Steven Crowder.
We dont teach Christmas in schools folks, you learn Christmas at home from your family within the first year of life. Youve lived and experienced 5-6 Christmas seasons before you ever step foot in school. I dont ever recall being "taught Christmas" in school. It was just experienced as a tradition. We learned about Independence Day and Thanksgiving mostly.
Kudos to the young man for engaging in polite, intelligent conversation. Nice to see people can disagree and don't have to try to tear each other's heads off.
@@30rdmagaProbably would have. Lincoln didn’t free slaves, and in fact the White House continued to have slaves for almost a full year after the war ended
he wasnt a good president. you should look up what he did during his presidency. a lot of things he implented are what we want repealed now and he was one of the presidents who helped give govt too much power
This man will undoubtedly be successful. He is intelligent and has a wonderful demeanor. I'd love to be able to follow his career. Nice job to both men.
I kinda respect this guy. He's taken the leftist idea of all cultures are completely 100% morally equal, but actually believes it and isn't being disingenuous
@powder-milk-man Sure, plus he's far too rational & decent to make for good video. He's far more intellectually consistent than the purple-haired Trigglypuff types that Crowder normally gets to froth at the mouth.
@powder-milk-man you're going to need to expand on that to be taken seriously. Just saying "he's wrong" and walking away isn't convincing anyone. How is he wrong?
@@timdarnell7819 but they are morally equal. Morality is subjective, and in reality is nothing more than an illusion we've created. The only thing that determines what's moral or not is where you happen to be and who you happen to be talking about.
I've heard so many black people say that Kwanzaa is an ancient African celebration. When I told them how it was invented, the one time I spoke up, I got peppered with "you can't even let us have this, you have to make up lies to take this away from us".
I think anything of historical significance has value in being taught. The problem is kids aren't being taught right from wrong or how to tell the difference.
I'm learning so much from this! I never knew Kwanzaa was a such a recent modern thing. I also didn't know Kwanzaa was only an African AMERICAN thing! So it's nothing to do with actual Africa or actual African cultures!
A soft spoken young man who engaged in real discourse respectfully. He listened and was consistent in his views. This is the type of discourse needed if we hope to continue as a country.
He sees how statues can make people feel unsafe? Someone needs to tell these people that "Night at the Musuem" is a fantasy. They aren't really coming to life.
he sees how they're a symbol - and what that symbol represents can make people feel unsafe. Namely that when you put up a statue of someone, you're celebrating them. Putting up statues of Confederates is essentially akin to celebrating the Confederacy itself, which only existed for one reason...the right for people to enrich themselves off of enslaved labor. If we are still celebrating that in this day and age, then I'd say people are perfectly well within their rights to feel unsafe, and any other range of emotions.
@@lordmeandor2328 Crowder mentioned nuance in celebrating the likes of slave owners like Lincoln. Virtuous people can never admit how bad the North was screwing people that were mostly poor and desperate, including confederate allied natives. They can't sympathize with the villified South, yet they can sympathize with the segregated, white flighting, blackfacing north, and feel perfectly safe under the stars and stripes that flew while warring with natives.
Our family born and raised in Italy from the late 1890's to present day. Tues, December 26, 2023 ( literally Dec 26th day after Christmas ) is a Christian Holy Day. Saint Stephen... ~~~~ day after Christmas.
"Christmas", like all other Christian holidays, is much older than Jesus. It was a Pagan celebration of the winter solstice that dates back to the origins of mankind. Christians overlaid their holidays in an attempt to overshadow preexisting celebrations with their own. Santa Claus dates back to Norse mythology much older than even the old testament. The Christians have hijacked nearly every celebration that isn't theirs to undermine the origins and claim it as their own. Just another ideological construct of man.
I went to public elementary school in a predominantly white New England town. We always had a “holiday program” (which we all called “The Christmas Show”) in which every winter holiday the music teacher had heard of was represented. I remember one year that I, a white girl, was one of the kids who had to read the Kwanza poem because they ran out of dark-skinned children, most of whom were Jamaican. 🤣
I like how they try to pretend that it's a real holiday and then they talk about how it's from Africa and that yellow on the Kwanzaa flag stands for corn. Yeah I said it stands for corn. Which was cultivated by the Native Americans in the United States of America!!! On the other side of the Atlantic Ocean from Africa where the great Kwanzaa Supposedly comes from
I generally like Steven, but i think his argument here isn't a good one. He's missing the whole point of the legitimate question. This guest wasn't saying Kwanza is moral or not, just stating that it's a holiday because people established it as one
As the white father of two black sons I woke Christmas morning to texts from both of them wishing me a very Merry Christmas! Unfortunately my youngest lives 1500 miles away but I was blessed enough to spend the day with my oldest son, his beautiful fiancé and her son who now calls me Grandpa which melts my heart everytime I hear it. It was a good day. If I would have said Happy Kwanzaa they both would have said its Christmas Dad (Pop) WTF? Lmao
I’ll be 37 years old this year. Im born and raised in Houston Texas, I’ve met other black people from around the U.S. when i was in the military, Im currently a residential HVAC professional which means i visit thousands of homes and i was an apartment maintenance technician for years, i dont think ive ever met any black people whove ever so much as talked about Kwanzaa let alone actually celebrate it.
Even secretaries don't get "Secretary's Day" off! As the source of the founding values of our country, Christianity SHOULD be reflected in the schools. That's how our kids can grow up patriotically, with a sense of the meaning of being "American"!
The most I know about Kwanzaa is the Futurama joke about Kwanzaabot that basically exists to deliver books explaining what Kwanzaa even is because nobody actually knows why Kwanzaa exists in the first place.
I think this guy was fairly spot on. He doesnt think any of those holidays should be taught in school. He doesnt agree with them but respects that other people have different points of view.
The seperation of church and state just restricts government from forcing any specific religion or giving special treatment for religious beliefs. Doesnt mean religion cant be taught or shared by government institutions
I might not agree with Crowder on every issue, but almost always he hits the nail on the head. The individual that he was speaking with in this video should start his own RUclips channel, or get into radio. He has a very good attitude, and a compellingly soothing voice. Cheers...
Christmas, Easter, All Saints Day (ha ha day after Halloween in the old days.) Bank Holidays for those that serve Mammon, St. Patrick's Day. Somber church day in Ireland.I would argue my birthday....@@qosmo8
@@qosmo8Depends. I would not work on any “holy” days which is in Leviticus 23. The word “holy” comes from the Hebrew Bible, which Rome stole and invented Christianity.
I think this guy was amazing. He didn't want to pretend like he knew anything that he didn't, he just wanted to understand Crowders position. Whether he agrees with the positions or not I believe is irrelevant as he is willing to hear others opitions, not take them for fact just cause they were said, and then I assume make decisions based off of that. It seemed like he has good intentions.
About the ad hominem issue... Did we just conveniently forget who Constantine the Great (aka Constantine the Tyrant) was, and what he was all about, apart from stopping the prosecution of early Christians?! That emperor's life is so well documented, I advise everyone to go a bit deeper into the subject.
How is that no one knows anything about Kwanzaa, but we should also stop teaching Kwanzaa? Who are we teaching it to if no one knows anything about it? Crowder had to learn about Kwanzaa, just to tell people who don't celebrate Kwanzaa or know anything about it, that it shouldn't be taught, after going out of his way to learn it, to tell people that don't know anything about it, that they shouldn't learn it, because it shouldn't be taught, based on what he learned doing research on it. ....why is this a video?
Change my mind has become 10,000 times harder to do just in the last 3 years. With that said, hold a change your mind in any small to mid town across America instead of on a college campus and it would run itself. Change my mind should be changed into change my mind college student
Woke up yesterday to about 20 Merry Christmas texts. Woke up today with absolutely zero Happy Kwanzaa texts. Most of the people defending Kwanzaa don't even celebrate it or know what it entails. They just know it's the "African American" holiday.
Happy Festivus
Means too many white friends 😂😂
@@aaronrealerxwell funny enough…I ate Chinese yesterday and 90% of the restaurant was black people…and they were very friendly and guess what a lot of them said to me ? “Merry Christmas!” But hey maybe they just said to themselves “she’s white so I’ll tell her merry Christmas instead of happy kwanza” …who knows. But if I were to put my money on it…I’d guess they all celebrated Christmas.
I thought it was boxing day, or maybe that's just in europe. I still don't know what boxing day is but I learned about today from my Jewish therapist funnily enough.
I don't know ANY African Americans.
I do know a whole lot of Americans whose heritage is African. But they are Americans just like all the other American citizens. Merry Christmas to al my fellow Americans.
That was pleasant to watch no shouting, interrupting or name calling.
you can pretty much tell right away how an interview is going to go just by how the person sits down and the first words out of their mouth. Also, leftists never smile or look happy.
You call that a kwanza celebration?
It's weird how people all of a sudden "didn't feel safe" around these statues until just a few years ago.
They just took their cheap shot.
When you eavesdrop on half a conversation between two people, and you hear a phrase or word you don't like, so you initiate a negative interaction with them. Then try to take the high road and instigate a fight.
What does that have to do with people and statues? @@ARIES5342
I've yet to hear a single example, of how an historical statue, inspired someone to commit violence.
@AndrewWilliams-ry6tb Only examples I can give is a violent individual or group engages in violent acts and uses the statue existence an excuse.
Only smooth brain or people who agree will go along with that stupidity.
Or
Someone or group engage in violent acts, and the spectator/reporters misrepresent the violent actors' actions attributing it to a statue.
Basically, liars gonna lie their asses off at every opportunity.
All Democrats admit that their statues cause them to commit acts of violence.
I had a coworker in my company, an engineer from Nigeria who was here in the US for some specific training. He asked me, "What is this Kwanzaa I hear about?" I told him blacks were celebrating it as an African event. He called home to Nigeria, and his friends and family asked around. He later reported to me that no one knew what Kwanzaa was, they had never heard of it, either. Turns out it was fabricated by a guy here in the US.
Absolutely and it's secular. It's not associated with any religion.
Its a new age black creation like rastafarianism in Jamaica.
Kwanzaa was invented by a wife beater who was severely schizophrenic! This man has only caused pain his entire life!
Christianity is made up. All religions are made up.
By a Marxist
Crowder makes this look easy. It's great to see him engage with people in an open and honest discussion. We need more of that in the public square.
He is good, that’s for sure.
Its easy when you can make up "facts"
@@peartree460yep leftists are easy to debate because they just make up shit
@@peartree460
No, cause then you just get exposed as a liar, and Crowder didn't do that to begin with.
@@peartree460fact check him then, I’m sure he’s willing to entertain you if you bring anything significant
Kwanzaa is nothing more than an activist engaging in activism. All of this talk and activity and impact in society are the dreams of an activist.
activism is not going away its been around before you came around
The concept of activism always exists like any abstract feeling. The impact of activism, on the other hand, comes and goes.@@SmokeyThaLion
actually a career criminal named Ron Karenga
The fellow speaking to Crowder is clearly a kind, nice person. Such a nice change from crazy people he interviews.
This young man clearly has a very bright future even if hes wrong about some things hes clearly very intelligent, polite and willing to have an actual conversation
The last piece of your statement is what impressed me with this young man. Far too many today go straight to "hot head".
are you ppl serious??? that was the blk Brian Stelter....... that soy load will be your Future DOMINATOR
He is a moral relativist, how does that make him intelligent?
I mean he basically just said that no matter the morality, history, or context of a holiday, if people wish to celebrate it then its just as good of a holiday. That doesn't seem very intelligent to me, considering how many f*cked up pagan holidays have existed. Wish crowder would have brought up some of them maybe this guy would realize that there is and should be a limit on what is or isn't an acceptable holiday.
I believe there is a quote that goes 'Its easy to go through life believing everything or nothing, as neither view requires critical thought', this guy is the believe everything part of the story.
@@ChrisA399 Very well put. He doesn't like celebrating Christmas, but I bet he is all about celebrating MLK day.
If you think he didn't get presents at Christmas growing up and doesn't participate in any way you probably go to the same school !
The kwanza is the currency of Angola. Four different currencies using the name kwanza have circulated since 1977.
The currency derives its name from the Kwanza River.
Africa doesn't celebrate a holiday named Kwanza..
It's purely an American thing.
It was created in the 1960s by a black college activist professor. I learned about it in school but also was taught it was created and wasn't ever an actual African holiday.
@@m_d1905 exactly.
No one here celebrating it either
I live in East Africa. Can confirm, nobody has even heard of it here, even highly Western educated Africans I know. People are very very religious here. Both Christians and Muslims (the good kind)
I never heard of it until the 80’s. I figured it was made up because a lot of other things at the time like The Cosby Show, and Coming to America.
That right there is what this NATION WAS FOUNDED ON… WE AS AMERICANS SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO DISAGREE AND YET PUT OUR PERSONAL DIFFERENCES TO THE SIDE TO PROTECT SOMETHING WE ALL SHOULD LOVE… OUR COUNTRY!!!!
Agree 100%. The problem is that a large portion of our country is being punished legally and financially for having our own standards and beliefs that don't align with the agenda of the media and government.
At some point, our country presents as fractured based on key distinctions in perceptions on history, recency, and foresight. How do those get reconciled? How do peoples who are so different come together and maintain a union perceived similarly between parties?
Hard mode: no "muh Jesus"
Problem is that you live in the USA not America, America died in 1876.
@Shaman196 Christianity is the basis by which this nation along with its foundational laws were created. However, most of the issues we have today have nothing to do with religion. A large portion of the American population are just flat out ignoring facts and logic, which has nothing to do with religion. People are just complete idiots these days and our government is taking advantage of that.
I always thought they celebrated Kwanzaa in Africa on the same day we celebrated Christmas here LOL 😂
Nobody in Africa celebrates Kwanzaa. It was invented by an ex-con in the USA, and only celebrated by corporate HR departments.
I’m sub Saharan, I have never heard of that holiday. My family is catholic 😂
@@ToeKnife166 It's a fake holiday, created by leftists who are annoyed that African-Americans still celebrate Christmas.
@@ToeKnife166
You’re just not a real African :p
There is no Kwanzaa in Africa. It's made up.
I’m a black / African American “ we don’t celebrate kwanza let’s keep it 💯
It’s so nice to see people having a frank discussion of sensitive issues in a calm and mature way.
Yet it’s so dumb seeing this baiting wanting to get a rise out of people. Tell me what the point of this video is? Who cares if someone celebrates any holiday? Stay in your lane and let people have freedom. Religious freedom is something I support and crowder and his base should look into. Otherwise he can go F off to Canada again, he’s and immigrant and we don’t like them right?
Though I don't agree with what this young man was saying, I respect that he stuck to his guns and didn't get confused of flip flop or try to change the subject when Steven made a counter point. Also, he sat there and allowed Steven to educate him on a point before making a statement. That shows true intelligence. What school was this? All of the students were very polite also. Props to everyone involved in this interaction.
He was wearing an SMU sweatshirt... Southern Methodist University? Texas
That was a refreshing example of disagreement that didn’t devolve into a “so-and-so destroys so-and-so” video. I love seeing open discussion between people with different points of view.
I think a lot of these problems go away when you get over yourself. Foolish pride seems to be the driving factor in a lot of cultural problems
Pride before they fall
Pride month is named aptly then
This is the first young person I’ve seen sit down with Steven who came off as truly brilliant the entire time. He was very measured and calm in each of his responses / retorts and also in each of his own questions. Well done… A genuinely productive discussion from 2 completely different perspectives.
I never knew what Kwanzaa was until this year. I'm blk and 30 btw. I always though it was a holiday from Africa, boy was I wrong.
I like this guy. I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but he's calm, polite, respectful & very smiley, he's also consistent - I can respect that.
That young man had an open, honest and respectful dialogue while keeping it civil. Even though they had differing opinions he was able to acknowledge common ground in their arguments and express his opposing opinion. He will be a productive member of society with a lot of upside in his professional career.
He’s sucked wind!
The founder of Kwanzaa also broke a Chanukah menorah to make the first Kwanzaa candle holder, too. I'm Jewish and find that HIGHLY disrespectful. If they had asked some Jews if they could use an old menorah? Okay. But as far as I know, they didn't. They just found one and broke it. I'm not okay with that. So that's another misdeed to add to their already numerous crimes.
I'm just glad that the young man was pleasant and respectful. There was a lot he disagreed with and I think he was incorrect on that, but I absolutely appreciate it is affable nature and his willingness to have an actual dialogue with Steven Crowder.
It’s very nice to see a conversation that’s not ended in a blowup.
I always wonder why people that say “i don’t celebrate Christmas” for sure take the day off. Thank baby Jesus you got a free day!
ikr. they should work and not on double pay either lol
I worked Christmas, and I don't celebrate. Celebrating that paycheck, instead.
I was taught Kwanzaa but never where it came from and why
Years ago, when I heard about kwanza for the first time, I looked it up. Never even put it up in my classroom. Thankfully, I have an inquiring mind.
It was made up by a criminal and black supremacist.
We dont teach Christmas in schools folks, you learn Christmas at home from your family within the first year of life. Youve lived and experienced 5-6 Christmas seasons before you ever step foot in school. I dont ever recall being "taught Christmas" in school. It was just experienced as a tradition. We learned about Independence Day and Thanksgiving mostly.
Kudos to the young man for engaging in polite, intelligent conversation. Nice to see people can disagree and don't have to try to tear each other's heads off.
5:49. Dude doesn't believe Lincoln did good things for America.
He didn't, watch Raz0rfist's deep dive on Lincoln, dude was a tyrant and was not to keen on freeing the slaves
Maybe he thinks he'd have been better off without Abraham Lincoln 🤣
@@30rdmagaProbably would have. Lincoln didn’t free slaves, and in fact the White House continued to have slaves for almost a full year after the war ended
Lincoln wasn’t the savior you think he was.
he wasnt a good president. you should look up what he did during his presidency. a lot of things he implented are what we want repealed now and he was one of the presidents who helped give govt too much power
This man will undoubtedly be successful. He is intelligent and has a wonderful demeanor. I'd love to be able to follow his career. Nice job to both men.
"Kwanza" isn't a real holiday at all!
I kinda respect this guy.
He's taken the leftist idea of all cultures are completely 100% morally equal, but actually believes it and isn't being disingenuous
@powder-milk-man Sure, plus he's far too rational & decent to make for good video. He's far more intellectually consistent than the purple-haired Trigglypuff types that Crowder normally gets to froth at the mouth.
@powder-milk-man you're going to need to expand on that to be taken seriously. Just saying "he's wrong" and walking away isn't convincing anyone. How is he wrong?
@@lordmeandor2328easy, they aren't all morally equal.
@@timdarnell7819 but they are morally equal. Morality is subjective, and in reality is nothing more than an illusion we've created. The only thing that determines what's moral or not is where you happen to be and who you happen to be talking about.
most intellectually consistent person to ever sit down for a change my mind.
I've heard so many black people say that Kwanzaa is an ancient African celebration. When I told them how it was invented, the one time I spoke up, I got peppered with "you can't even let us have this, you have to make up lies to take this away from us".
Sounds like typical black style projection lol.
I think anything of historical significance has value in being taught. The problem is kids aren't being taught right from wrong or how to tell the difference.
Separation of church and state? There could be no federal church, because the states all had established state churches.
I liked listening to Christian. He was very polite and respectful when he disagreed with something
Absolutely nobody actually knows what Kwanza even is. Except the media. And maybe 12 people in Detroit where I live.
I knew it when I was a child. Not much what it is.
I'm learning so much from this! I never knew Kwanzaa was a such a recent modern thing. I also didn't know Kwanzaa was only an African AMERICAN thing! So it's nothing to do with actual Africa or actual African cultures!
An make up religion, imvented68.
But you never questioned it until now? Question everything.
@marilynrosen6245 yuck. The far left seems to be full of preds yet like to claim priests are....🙄
@marilynrosen6245 almost like the founder of mlk day. Seems they all have the same problem
A soft spoken young man who engaged in real discourse respectfully. He listened and was consistent in his views. This is the type of discourse needed if we hope to continue as a country.
The separation of church and state has to do with the state leaving churches alone...
He sees how statues can make people feel unsafe? Someone needs to tell these people that "Night at the Musuem" is a fantasy. They aren't really coming to life.
he sees how they're a symbol - and what that symbol represents can make people feel unsafe. Namely that when you put up a statue of someone, you're celebrating them. Putting up statues of Confederates is essentially akin to celebrating the Confederacy itself, which only existed for one reason...the right for people to enrich themselves off of enslaved labor. If we are still celebrating that in this day and age, then I'd say people are perfectly well within their rights to feel unsafe, and any other range of emotions.
@@lordmeandor2328 Crowder mentioned nuance in celebrating the likes of slave owners like Lincoln. Virtuous people can never admit how bad the North was screwing people that were mostly poor and desperate, including confederate allied natives. They can't sympathize with the villified South, yet they can sympathize with the segregated, white flighting, blackfacing north, and feel perfectly safe under the stars and stripes that flew while warring with natives.
I don’t remember ever learning about Christmas in school lol
Our family born and raised in Italy from the late 1890's to present day. Tues, December 26, 2023 ( literally Dec 26th day after Christmas ) is a Christian Holy Day. Saint Stephen... ~~~~ day after Christmas.
I remember years ago when they made up this holiday, and everyone was scratching their heads like wait, whaaaaat?
Futurama taught me all I need to know about Kwanzaa
"Christmas", like all other Christian holidays, is much older than Jesus. It was a Pagan celebration of the winter solstice that dates back to the origins of mankind. Christians overlaid their holidays in an attempt to overshadow preexisting celebrations with their own. Santa Claus dates back to Norse mythology much older than even the old testament. The Christians have hijacked nearly every celebration that isn't theirs to undermine the origins and claim it as their own.
Just another ideological construct of man.
Or pagans intertwined their existing mythologies and traditions with christianity when they converted. It's not as sinister as you make it sound.
I went to public elementary school in a predominantly white New England town. We always had a “holiday program” (which we all called “The Christmas Show”) in which every winter holiday the music teacher had heard of was represented. I remember one year that I, a white girl, was one of the kids who had to read the Kwanza poem because they ran out of dark-skinned children, most of whom were Jamaican. 🤣
I like how they try to pretend that it's a real holiday and then they talk about how it's from Africa and that yellow on the Kwanzaa flag stands for corn. Yeah I said it stands for corn. Which was cultivated by the Native Americans in the United States of America!!! On the other side of the Atlantic Ocean from Africa where the great Kwanzaa Supposedly comes from
See if the guy is willing to work on Christmas day, for only normal time wages.
Depends on the job and employer.
You may take my joy, my hope, my life even, but you can never take my Kwaanza!
I generally like Steven, but i think his argument here isn't a good one. He's missing the whole point of the legitimate question. This guest wasn't saying Kwanza is moral or not, just stating that it's a holiday because people established it as one
Christmas is a lie, change my mind.
I'm not doubting His glorious birth, just the holiday.
This guy is trying to wrap his head around what a holiday is? Matt Walsh, here’s your sequel!
This guy seems wise, calm, and collected.
Very respectful. Kudos to him.
There is no such thing as separation of church and state in our constitution. Change my mind!
Separation of church and state doesn’t mean you can’t discuss Christianity. It means laws will not be made based off of any particular religion.
If you don’t want to celebrate any holiday DONT!
My ansisters celebrated Kwanzaa centuries ago. Back then it was called ‘Yearly Bath Day’.
Two people that have different points of view having a sensible discussion. Refreshing….
Kwanzaa is much like Juneteenth in that I'd never heard of either until a few years ago.
I respect that he wanted to be consistent with the argument he formed.
As the white father of two black sons I woke Christmas morning to texts from both of them wishing me a very Merry Christmas! Unfortunately my youngest lives 1500 miles away but I was blessed enough to spend the day with my oldest son, his beautiful fiancé and her son who now calls me Grandpa which melts my heart everytime I hear it. It was a good day.
If I would have said Happy Kwanzaa they both would have said its Christmas Dad (Pop) WTF? Lmao
adopted sons?
@@ifyoudisagreeyouarewrong yes but that matters why?
@@MrBillsfishin cause black men abandon their kids
I’ll be 37 years old this year. Im born and raised in Houston Texas, I’ve met other black people from around the U.S. when i was in the military, Im currently a residential HVAC professional which means i visit thousands of homes and i was an apartment maintenance technician for years, i dont think ive ever met any black people whove ever so much as talked about Kwanzaa let alone actually celebrate it.
I wonder if more people celebrate Festivus than Kwanzaa?
You know a tree by the fruit it provides.
4:44
“irrelevant”
Facts are ALWAYS relevant.
Even secretaries don't get "Secretary's Day" off! As the source of the founding values of our country, Christianity SHOULD be reflected in the schools. That's how our kids can grow up patriotically, with a sense of the meaning of being "American"!
Not in government schools. That’s what religious schools are for. Imposing religion on children via the government is the last thought we want.
Jessie lee P exposed this on tv in the 90s
"Oh no, it will be the year without Kwanza, just like every year before 1966." Amy Wong from Futurama.
just another Holiday to clog up the Federal Calendar
I grew up in Baltimore. I have never met a black person who celebrates Kwanzaa
Kwanzaa founder went to jail for torture of women....so there's that...🫥
Jesus was a spring baby but if we celebrate it we would be doing birth and death around the same time.
I give this guy one or two years and he will leave the left behind. He's too calm, curious and open to hearing different ideas.
He wont leave the left, the left will leave him, and say he's a far right MAGA extremist.
The most I know about Kwanzaa is the Futurama joke about Kwanzaabot that basically exists to deliver books explaining what Kwanzaa even is because nobody actually knows why Kwanzaa exists in the first place.
That guy in the red hoody is one of the best Chowder interviewer.
How refreshing to see 2 guys have a nice chat, and respectfully disagree. ❤
I like how you explained why Kwanza is a bullshit holiday without explaining it.
A true celebration is in the heart. Signed; Happy old guy.
Christian looks like one of George Foremans kids, Probably George, George, George or George...
Kwanzaa = "Festivus"
"Festivus for the rest of us." - Seinfeld
Santa isn’t real. Change my mind. 😂😂😂
I think this guy was fairly spot on. He doesnt think any of those holidays should be taught in school. He doesnt agree with them but respects that other people have different points of view.
No holidays are legitimate. Change my mind.
I saw "Night at the Museum". I've seen all of them. Those statues can't be trusted.
Lol a guy named "christian" saying people shouldnt learn about christ
Steven doesn’t like smart black men lol
The seperation of church and state just restricts government from forcing any specific religion or giving special treatment for religious beliefs. Doesnt mean religion cant be taught or shared by government institutions
SMU hoodie (Southern Methodist University) but doesn't celebrate Christmas.
That is ironic a religious named university. Weird. I don’t observe xmass because it is also a fake holiday.
A very civilized, respectful discussion with points made on both sides. I wish our gov’t and media would learn this.
I might not agree with Crowder on every issue, but almost always he hits the nail on the head. The individual that he was speaking with in this video should start his own RUclips channel, or get into radio. He has a very good attitude, and a compellingly soothing voice. Cheers...
Holiday=Holy Day.
Which days do we get off that are holy days? And xmas was actually illegal in some areas of NE for a period of time.
Christmas, Easter, All Saints Day (ha ha day after Halloween in the old days.) Bank Holidays for those that serve Mammon, St. Patrick's Day. Somber church day in Ireland.I would argue my birthday....@@qosmo8
@@qosmo8Depends. I would not work on any “holy” days which is in Leviticus 23. The word “holy” comes from the Hebrew Bible, which Rome stole and invented Christianity.
This guy is doing more tap dancing than Fred Astaire
I think this guy was amazing. He didn't want to pretend like he knew anything that he didn't, he just wanted to understand Crowders position. Whether he agrees with the positions or not I believe is irrelevant as he is willing to hear others opitions, not take them for fact just cause they were said, and then I assume make decisions based off of that. It seemed like he has good intentions.
About the ad hominem issue...
Did we just conveniently forget who Constantine the Great (aka Constantine the Tyrant) was, and what he was all about, apart from stopping the prosecution of early Christians?!
That emperor's life is so well documented, I advise everyone to go a bit deeper into the subject.
"Not feel safe". These people live in a fantasy world. SMU says a lot.
Why didnt he take that question to that Barbershop ?😂
How is that no one knows anything about Kwanzaa, but we should also stop teaching Kwanzaa? Who are we teaching it to if no one knows anything about it? Crowder had to learn about Kwanzaa, just to tell people who don't celebrate Kwanzaa or know anything about it, that it shouldn't be taught, after going out of his way to learn it, to tell people that don't know anything about it, that they shouldn't learn it, because it shouldn't be taught, based on what he learned doing research on it. ....why is this a video?
As Kamala Harris that question.
Change my mind has become 10,000 times harder to do just in the last 3 years. With that said, hold a change your mind in any small to mid town across America instead of on a college campus and it would run itself. Change my mind should be changed into change my mind college student
Can't dislike this guy.
good composure, good attitude and laid back.