Neil deGrasse Tyson explains how aliens could be so much smarter than us
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2023
- Ever wonder about the our vast, mysterious universe - but don’t have time to earn that PhD? Superstar scientist Neil deGrasse Tyson has come to the rescue with Astrophysics for People in a Hurry, the brilliantly witty guide you’ve been waiting for. Recorded May 3, 2017 at 92nd Street Y.
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I forget the name of the book, but I remember a whole scifi story about how we were the regressed form from some renegade faction to some genetically crafted universes highest life form, where our most intelligent examples were considered barely capable degenerate forms of that created species, so unrecognizable to them that they thought they had discovered some completely new form of life. Was a truly interesting read.
😳 You can’t give such an interesting story summary and then leave us without the name of the book! I beseech you to scour your memory / library and update us - Please!
I hate you for not remembering the name of the book. Haha
it’s been MONTHS please tell us you found the name of the book 😭
@@bryanmurphy6180, I've gone looking,, then gotten distracted, will take up the quest again!
sounds like the three body problem by Liu Cixin,
I wonder if the opposite is true in that we’ve reached our full potential, perhaps even gone a little too far in that we’ve out smarted ourselves at the expense of human kind and plant earth. 😢
A friend of my once said that “earth is perfectly designed for plants and bugs, we’re the anomaly”
highly unlikely, if that is true we could be going to alpha centauri back and forth any time we want
If we had that extra 1% we would communicate telepathically which would give you a better understanding of what another person is saying thought to thought! Not sound which is primitive!
If we had that extra
It isn't.
The alien that can do extremely complex mathematical calculations in their heads, is that the average alien intelligences? If all aliens can do that then I am curious what a genius level alien would be able to do.
Anything they want .
Anything they want .
What if the visitors we see in the skies dont understand slavery or wars.
As our technology grows, are they concerned?
aliens probably look at us and dont care, its probably the same we look at an ant hill and dont care,if an ant sees a highway will it know its a highway? probably not, and thats how we probably intepret the universe
Neil's argument is wrong here. 1percent may not sound like much difference but each human cell contains around three billion base pairs (or bits of information). So 1 percent equsls 35 million differences between an ape and human.
And that is very very small compared to the already exisiting number of possible base pairs. Small=literally a relative concept.
1 percent of anything is small in comparison to the whole... It's 1% after all.
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If they can successfully navigate and provision travel through the known universe, then I can imagine they’d have to be a lot more intelligent than us.
With all due respect to Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson I humbly disagree. The problem with phrasing the question this way leads to logical errors and cognitive biases. He's assuming the 1% difference in DNA, between us and the chimp, leads directly to increased cognitive capacity (or intelligence - whichever word you want to use). He's implicitly assuming a linear and causal relationship between DNA and Cognitive Capacity/Intelligence keeping in mind that the intelligence metric was never quantified (he said small). Thus his referential point (the 1% difference between us and chimps) is entirely subjective and anecdotal. Moreover, an alien who was further along the evolutionary tree than us may not be smarter. In our case, it's less likely we'd get smarter as time goes on because after we reach a certain level of intelligence, it is no longer essential for selection (unless we introduce a competing species with a similar level of intelligence - then we have other dynamics at play). My point is, nature may have a predetermined plateau on how intelligent a species can get; after a certain point, you've already outcompeted all other species on your planet (like us). So unless another, competing species at a similar level of intelligence is introduced into our ecosystem, we have no need to keep developing our brains. This unnecessary evolution would be too costly energy wise. For reference, my energy requirements are 2100 calories a day (to maintain weight) and I weigh 150 pounds. A 250 pound orangutan has the same caloric requirement of 2000 calories. This means that the human brain is so energy hungry that even after we've given up a huge deal of muscle density (compared to chimps/orangutans), dexterity (their feet have opposable thumbs) and mass we still require more calories per day than they do (because of our brains). This is a costly tradeoff in evolutionary terms. An alien that has the same intelligence difference than we do to chimps may require a similar reduction in body size/mass to maintain equilibrium (they'd need 2000 calories at 80 pounds of weight - assuming the appropriate tradeoffs take place)
TLDR, although it sounds interesting and well thought out. Just wanted to say that DeGrasse seems more to be making a statement about humility and a hypothetical allegory that is rather humorous. Besides, you don't know how smart an interplanetary traveler might be. Couldn't the conditions on another planet make different evolution?
Whatever the case, Neil deGrass Tyson speaks beautifully!
@@cockeyedoptimista Fair enough. He does speak beautifully and I have nothing against Dr. Tyson. I was just saying it's not realistic. Also, I hypothesized why there might be a plateau on how intelligent a species can get.
@theman1860 Thanks for answering. I'll try to read your comment if I ever get time. I think it is unrealistic, his hypothesis, but I think he thinks so too. But maybe not. It sounds like you have a very solid exclamation of that. Also, regarding a plateau: very interesting comment. Someone else said the same. I'm too troubled with life issues to speculate on such things right now.
I think Neil is wrong here. It's an interesting thought, but I think he's missing a key aspect to all of this. Life operates on the rule of "Good enough". If a species is "good enough" to reproduce, those genes continue on into the next generation. As soon as a species becomes intelligent enough to ensure that essentially every individual passes on its genes, which humans have done, then physical evolution is practically halted. So their intellectual capabilities will not improve beyond that point. For humans, we reached that point as soon as we planted vegetables in the ground. And I suspect that another species would also reach that point around a similar time. So it's unlikely, in my opinion, that aliens would have much higher intelligence than us.
You forgot to factor in dwindling natural resources and natural selection, which makes "planting vegetables in the ground" never good enough.
UFOs are on God's side and are described all over the Bible. The ancient used semantic and called the spaceships, clouds, pillars, chariots and glory. The Bible talks about “clouds” going up and down with people going in and out (Exodus 24:18 - Moses entered the cloud). Clouds do not make those movements described in the Bible, but spaceships do. Jesus ascended in a “cloud” (Acts 1:9). God rides in a “cloud” (Isaiah 19:1, Psalm 104:3). Jesus will come back “with” the “clouds” (Mat 26:64, Rev 1:7). Jesus will come back commanding a fleet of starships. The church will be raptured “in” the “clouds” (I Thess. 4:17). Spaceships will be used to rapture the church. The ancient did not have vocabulary or knowledge to understand what they saw so they called the flying objects “clouds”, “chariots”, and “pillars”, because were the words they had to describe something flying in the sky. The Bible even tells in Psalm 68:17 how many spaceships are in the fleet “The chariots of God are tens of thousands and thousands of thousands” (about 20,000). There is a good research done by Patrick Cooke called “The Great Deception - The Bible UFO Connection” which has the original words describing spaceships. It is all over the Bible. Jesus is real. He is the savior of the world, but He is not seating in a puffy cloud. He is commanding a powerful army, which will take control of our planet and stop all wars. The Jews had contact with beings from another planetary system called The Elohim, commanded by The Most High God. The Elohim had to have a special covenant with humans to be able to save our planet from destruction. They got the agreement with the Jews, but the Jews were not faithful to the agreement so The Most High God sent Jesus to make a new covenant and have legal rights to save our planet from destruction. The Jews made a covenant with beings from another planetary system. Psalm 82:1-6 says that God presides over a great assembly. Something like a federation of planets. If you want to confirm what I am saying just look at a painting made in 1710 by someone that had access to the secret archives of the Vatican. Look at the paint " The Baptism of Christ" by Aert de Gelder. Now that we know more about science, we can understand the descriptions in the Bible. They described high technology but didn't have words to express. When they saw spaceships with strong lights they called "glory”. The "glory" of God was a spaceship with lights. In the interplanetary law the price to save us was innocent blood. That is why Jesus had to die for us. He was fulfilling a legal requirement. Put your knees on the floor and surrender your life to Jesus.
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Wait, he loses sleep on that question each night?! Maybe that was an exaggeration.