The Rare Art of Dai Family Xinyi Quan - Exploring Xingyi Quan ep8
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- In this episode, we visit Qi County in Shanxi province to learn about the art of Dai Family Xinyi Quan from Duan Tian Lin. This is the art from which modern Xingyi has evolved from and it is both rare and incredibly conservative.
In this series, I team up with Paul Andrews of Xingyi Academy and Jon Nicklin to travel to Tianjin, Shanxi and Henan to explore the various styles of the art of Xingyi Quan. We will cover the Hebei Style of Li Cun Yi, Song and Che Family Xingyi in Taigu, Dai Style Xinyi in Qi County and Muslim Xinyi Liuhe in Henan Province.
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hai tao si pai xu hsiang fang ya san hai gu chun bu xia ru fang shi fang yin he fei bi fang shu bian fang yang san tai ih hai also wirlich ein gefähigtes system herzlich glückwunsch
I love how Chinese martial arts is so chill with the family running around and the teacher is cool with it. No uniform or rank, just learning.
Dear faimly and those, who help us rediscover,
Having spent over 30 years in Karate, wotching such videos leave me like in a Wonderland. How simple, yet efficient and humble at the same time. Long live the families and practitioners.
Paul. (64)retired istructort of Gojuryu Karate.
I feel like I could spend a lifetime with Duan Tian Lin and not even scratch the surface of his skill. Great video!
Amazing history. I like how you're going to the villages and getting the scoop on the origin of martial arts.
he used the force of all body, especially the spine, it was the reason with very powerful.
The master's arms, shoulders and back have remarkable development. Great to see Dai family Hsing I in action.
And he told us he never lifted weights :-p
Could be from all the farm work
@@MonkeyStealsPeach Does Dai family have heavy weapons training or stone locks or similar? It's not unknown for internal arts to use large weapons and training implements. Fu Zhensong the Bagua master used to use heavy iron balls for training, and the old style Bagua broadswords were massive.
They have weapons yes. Probably a combination of that and farm work.
@@MonkeyStealsPeach Farmer's strength is no joke...
If I was gonna learn Chinese Martial Arts it'd be from this dude. You see the arms on that old-timer, the shoulders. The dude's a proper warrior.
Interesting! Our teacher's teacher has learned Che style Xingyi and Dai Xinyi and taught a very "Dai influenced" Che Xingyi to him. So a lot of this is still visible in our Xingyi. Really fascinating.
I love the Naruto run baha.
Great clip too
The best part!
It runs in the family. Wink* wink* Japan(naruto) fuse with (china)dai family. Wahahahhaahaha...
i was going to say the same kkkkkkkk
woocha I saw that too
This series is awesome. Why this channel has so few subscribers is beyond me.
Thanks man. I quite like it small, means the people who watch are genuinely interested in martial arts
Few subscribers because most legit martial artists don't put stock in this shit
@@isechico then why are you watching?
The Naruto-running girl is the real kung-fu VIP
This is pure gold. I think this is the first time that a video on Dai movements have been explained in English. Thanks a lot. By the way you did mention that you have met two Dai teachers. So will you be uploading another video on this style?
Next week hopefully
Well the definition in his arms and very straight spine is not from doing the forms. Its from their solo practice which is very strenuous and is still not publicly taught. Thats whats ment by indoor teaching. You can do these outer forms forever and have very little power...might as well join a boxing gym. However with the solo training exercise not taught on this film...it transforms those moves and the entire body in about 2 years into a powerful internal art.
Just call the solo practice what it is, Zhan Zhuang.
And it is publicly taught if you know where to look lol
....okay....
I love how we are still mistifying this art. I love traditional martial arts but for historical purposes at this stage of my life. We still believe in all of these hidden stuff.
Again I love tradition but we all have to focus on functionality, and let's appreciate this documentaries for what they are.
I know there's a few generations that still fancy on magical arts, let's pretend they existed, they are now gone. You want to have a ripped body,.you just go to the gym ans train hard, you want to be able to resist some hard hits, go train a martial art where you get hit. You still want to believe in some fictional martial art, go watch a movie from the 80s. You want to keep tradition, learn some traditional martial arts but keep in mind what you are learning.
Sorry for any typos or syntax errors but my main language is spanish.
@Ken Jay I am saying that there are no secret power building exercises,
Proper zhan zhuang progressive training will develop the internal power.
It is very dynamic but not very painful past a certain point from what i understand.
There's a huge misconception that i had as well regarding Kung Fu, in that i didn't associate Kung Fu with HEALTH.
After reading many books and articles, watching many videos, and even finding a teacher, I am not convinced that HEALTH CULTIVATION and MARTIAL CULTIVATION are 2 sides of the same coin.
This is really really REALLY GOOD NEWS!!!
because in the past i had my doubts that learning Kung Fu had any real life benefit in the world of guns and other weapons, and it made me consider just learning boxing or something in which you can get some practical results much faster.
Now however, I understand that training Kung Fu is about HEALTH FIRST, in fact its about transforming your entire organism from the inside out. The combat aspects are actually of later importance, as the pinnacle of health preservation philosophically speaking.
Kung Fu heals the bodymind and cultivates spirit, in chinese you can say it cultivates the 3 treasures jing qi shen.
This will transform your life, you can improve your character and accomplish your innermost dreams.
And it all stems from ONE SINGLE PRACTICE, ZHAN ZHUANG. PERIOD. THERE ARE NO OTHER SECRETS, ITS ALL ABOUT ZHAN ZHUANG.
its hidden right in plain sight, its ironic really.
@Ken Jay When I say Zhan Zhuang progressive training i am referring to movement practices to learn how to maintain the principles of Zhan Zhuang during movement, and then testing power release, then sparring, etc
Maybe it was painful for you because the training was concentrated, probably could have been less painful if progress was more slow and gentle.
From my experience so far, most of the pain is in the beginner stage, gradually paving the way to greater and greater comfort.
If you say there are secret methods, then please reveal them :)
That was neat
Also, I have to say that I love the little girl! She's adorable! So excited at so many people around with cameras!
Adorable is one way to put it.... I had to edit the tantrum she threw out hahaha
Yea. She wanted her own episode
Thumbs up for the Naruto run! Very good 👌
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il ove the little girls naruto running hahaha
very good :))
Ese mismo🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice one mate. Getting better and better.
Amazing, great job!!!!!
The children Naruto-running distract me! I'm not even mad!
Thank you for sharing. 🙏
For being an internal style those arms are stacked af
Don't these people train in strength exercises like in Shaolin?Or do they just depend on the forms to take them through?
Always try to attack the blind side using your footwork. It is the same theory in BaaQua.
We make the same move pao quan in karate Shorin Ryu in the Kata pasai
the movement at 5:00 reminds me of the karate kata 'unsu'. well kind of..
2:32 nice little impromptu naruto run
The secret skill
Haha She's is beyond adorable
戴氏心意跟我們前輩換過拳，一着貓洗臉，編了《螳螂閘勢捶》。
not "double flowers", but "relax the pelvis".
Is there any version of Xingyi(Xinyi) in the southern China?
There are people who teach it in Southern China, but there aren't any unique lineages down there
This is used by the women shifu in ip man 4 right?
7:33 I like how he contracts his midsection. I'm working on that now, and it's not easy. It looks easy, but it's not.
Theres a lot of very complex dantian and body movement in Dai Style.
Do not attempt to learn this from watching people or by others which are not authentic teachers, you can hurt your neck, back, chest etc.
I give you now a Golden Tip ! First stand in dunhoushi till and only after your xiao Zhou tian is fulfilled ( a sensation of vibrations in the psychic center) then practice the other movements bao Dantian , kun Dantian , zha Dantian etc . If you are never stand in dunhoushi till your soles of the feet are sweating than it’s a waste of time to go into further practice
Who did you learn, Dai Xin Yi Quan, from?
Is there anything your master didn’t tell ?!
Look for
江玉山 在台灣
Is he teaching by chance would love to learn from him
If you speak Chinese I can put you in touch with him. He lives in a small village thats pretty remote though.
啊呀。我很久没去大陆。那个老外的中文很棒。我从来没听说过形意拳、要研究一下。谢谢给咱们分享🙏。哪我刚订好了你的频道。
也谢谢你的关注！
La niña corre como toda una Kunoichi, seguro está practicando un jutsu
I really love seeing little old men that can hurt something if they chose to
I m new subscriber , Could you please give the exact name of the masters on your vidéos ?
For exemple, what is the fullname of this master ?
Sorry, its usually in the description. I missed this one out. His name is Duan Tian Lin. I have edited the description... thanks for pointing that out
Thanks you very much for this fast answer 😊👍🏻
Little girl runs away JUTSUUUU!
so at the last video, he used an elbow strike, is that a form of pao qian too ?
He was saying pao quan in dai style isnt the same as in modern xingyi. Its this parting movement
Pushing hands Dai chih
La niña corre como el dibujo animado de ninja🤣
I'd like to know the history and linage of this style. It reminds me a bit of Crane.
It comes from Xinyi Liuhe in Henan province and has had elements of northern mantis and taoist internal practices added in
Your chinese Is excelent.
Im holding the camera... but yes Jon’s chinese is really good
Hmm, gotta be honest here, but I try not to sound rude or arrogant: I think he speaks better than most foreigners I've heard speak, however he probably lacks basics (in the sense of "has never intensively learned the language, maybe with classical Chinese as a background for better understanding of the modern language"), so he reached a plateau, that's very hard to surpass. Of course it's totally enough to come around in China, I just don't think that the word "excellent" is appropriate.
qwuan wang fu wan wang fu yi he shui ta dai chin chi kong si dai gong pai tao zuo zhai hai hai she jiu min dje zuo gong pai te he herzlichen glückwunsch zu erkennung rechtmäßiger tradierungen bis in den dort geschützten familiensinn dem hoffentlich nichts entfallen war
Girl is Hilarious!!!!
How can u learn and train in taji mantis style
The little girl Naruto run lol
Alhndulillah
Чхарка учитель😮
Cute kid.
人家虎型斜出正入，本來就是走中門的。
看人家 4:29 時，右腳擱哪兒？
现在我在高雄台湾。你有空的话，可以过来看看很有意思的太极。✌
谢谢！我明年可能要来台湾
Not for fighting but AWESOME and BEAUTIFUL
Once XingYiQuan was famous in China because worked well both in a ring and in real fight. But now most of the people practice It only as a art ( like meditation) or as a sport so they do not have any idea About how to fight.
Old dudes pretty limber
Where is the point? Just standard tiger applications.
Good excercise. That's all.
look its impresive what he does for him mind and his body and I like to learn....but my daer friend in a real situation you get your ars beat
Either that old man is on steroid or have great genetic of becoming a bodybuilder.
Most such styles will not apply in the ring, octagon nor street. (Unless defending yourself from a drunk or novice). The styles are interesting though and great for physical and mental fitness and well being. I enjoyed the video. Well done.
Its possible to take the principles and apply it in the ring o street. The sudden spring like force. The stickiness then burst with the spring force.
XY didn´t evolve from Dai really - Dai family had a minor role!
XY didn´t evolve from Dai really. Dai family had a minor role!
Look at his body shape. I call him suphu
No offense but you have better well developed that skill and some other physical abilities to complete that cannon move effectively.
You know it's fake, when he's granddaughter run like Naruto, hahaha lt
The little girl is so distracting... I wonder why the old man just ignored her. Part of martial arts training is discipline.
I mean he’s a grandpa. And she’s harmlessly playing.
control the kid
Thanks for great works guys!
XY didn´t evolve from Dai really - Dai family had a minor role!