Nah it was one of the few times Monroe let some backward bigoted thinking take over. He is mostly beyond this ridiculous tribal thinking and I even though I get why he is mad personally, he should realize keeping that fire of hate alive is not helping anyone.
You can tell Orson has nothing but respect and gratitude for Rosalee when she said Nick and the others should be able to get help despite Monroe and Orson's feud.
Rosalee does have a point about the letting the old feud go.....but in all fairness this isn't a random wesen, the guy did put a shotgun in monroes face so you can kinda understand where he's coming from
Well, it's PART of the reason Rosalie is awesome. She throws bricks like fastballs, swings a mean right hook and cooks spells like a born hexenbeast. Gotta love a girl with skills.
I can understand Monroe and Rosalee’s point here. Monroe’s friend was killed by Orson and he got threatened by him with a shotgun right on his head. To him, there’s no way for him to forget about this and letting it go. I mean, who would want to let go of someone who killed your friend and was going to kill you with a gun pointed right on your head? Plus Orson’s attitude toward Angelina’s death... can't say he didn't do it on purpose. In addition to this, Nick and Hank were the ones who brought him out because they need his help, that’s like as if they ignored how he feels and betrayed him, not to mention Rosalee is not standing on his side. On the other hand, Rosalee puts the two kids as the priority, it doesn’t seem wrong since she really has nothing to do with their feud. To her, that’s something in the past and she doesn’t want this feud to last forever, hatred doesn't solve any problems but only makes them worse. Though I would say if that’s the murderer who killed her brother instead of Monroe’s friend, I doubt she would be as calm as now she does. So it’s really about the perspective they are on, there’s no definite right or wrong answer to this issue.
@@icestar5745 Thank you for the correction here. I do understand how Orson feels and expected his reaction to be like that. Referring back to my last sentence, there's no absolute right or wrong, but only viewing from different positions. Monroe was close to Angelina and her cause of death is related to him so he felt guilty and can't tolerate Orson's words, but Orson also has his point because his close family members were killed by Angelina, of course he wouldn't sympathize Monroe's feelings.
I don't think Rosalee owuld have been calm BUT I DO still think she would have still wanted to help and do the right thing. The characters in the show were all great and have their moments. But Rosalee is a character that's written in a way that you don't see these days with how Hollywood is percieving 'strong female characters'.
Add the fact that many wesen look at Rosalie and Monroe as an interracial relationship that should not happen... They are already bucking biases and discrimination.
Watching this has got me REALLY interested in the origins of that feud. If Grimm ever has that sequel they were suggesting, I recommend having either an episode or arc where the Grimm lead has to read up on the origin.
I don’t think there’s any way to know exactly what happened, not without a prequel-esque episode that goes back 1000 or so years. That said, considering the way blutbad traditionally act, it’s a pretty safe bet that they did start it.
It's based on fairy tales. This one in particular is Three Little Pigs. With the Bauerschwein being the little pigs and the Blutbad being the big bad wolf.
Bringing Orson back was a great decision made by the show. In general, all the supporting characters that keep reappearing here and there, sometimes seasons apart. Great consistency. This is what makes a quality show. For me, Grimm is right up there with Babylon 5 and Farscape for best TV shows of all time.
I mean Orson killed one of his best friends, in his house, then proceeded to go back to his house with a shotgun and threatened him. So Monroe was justified for his anger against Orson here, but he should have let it go at least till the case was over. Regardless people need to stop acting like Monroe is stuck in the past or whatever in the comments
I agree with you. He's not stuck in the past. He's like vegetarian. He doesn't hunt pigs or anything like that. Angelina might have killed his brothers, but Monroe had nothing to do with it. Like the chef did, he lumped all Blûtbad together.
I see all sides. Angelina did kill Orson’s brothers for no reason other than for fun, Orson killed Hap who had nothing to do with his brothers deaths and There’s better priorities such as finding a murderer who killed 2 people so you need all the help you need
K... let's see if someone kill you cousin, and months later you open the doors of you house and receive the murderer with a big hug full of love and good will. Then you can try to talk like that trying to be cool on the internet.
@@meganbateman5634 No one can blame Monroe for his reaction. If you've ever had a friend and relative murdered you wouldn't want to see the person that did you wrong. We had two dogs in our garage and one had to be put down due to having an advanced case of rabies, the one that didn't get rabies saw the guy putting his pal to rest and he did not take that well and tried to lunge at him and it took me and my brother to hold him down. Everytime he sees that guy he immediately tries to lunge at him with the intent to kill, judging from the way his teeth are exposed along with the intensity of how our dog stares at him. Considering that Monroe is a werewolf I can imagine the kind of uncontrollable hatred since dogs and wolves are very social animals and anyone messing with their pack is considered an enemy worth killing.
I wonder, can some wesen really work with others? I mean, most of them are made to be a pain in the a** against other poor wesen, like that catwesen that hunted the bunnies.
I'm running through the series (again 😁) and I watched the episode where Hap died just yesterday. So maybe the wound is still fresh, but I'm kinda leaning toward Monroe's side here. Rosalee's right in that the feuds need to stop, but we can't pretend like none of that happened. Orson's locked up for a reason and he needs to remember that.
On the second thought I take my words about Anglina back at some point... She may BE a hot-head, but you should've seen her face when Monroe said he was willing to take a risk when he drank the Deadfaint. No to mention the concearn on her face when she thought Monroe was REALLY dead plus her rescue breathing him... She really DID love him... So his reation on Orson's gloat about Angelina being dead is very reasonable.
Monroe DEFINITELY went berserk for the right reason! Can't say I defend Orson for his behaviour, but Angelina really IS a bitch! (Let alone her intention of killing Nick) And not the smartest one... If it wasn't for Angelina's bloodthurst, Hap wouldn't probably die... Not only Angelina had Orson's brothers killed in cold blood, but she's actually responsible for Hap's death, whether she acknowledges this or not... Monroe was right. If she stayed, Hap would still be alive! But no! SHE decided to have FUN and left her brother alone without thinking about any consequences like some brain-dead jenny-ass! Assuming she HAD any brain... And got BOTH her brothers killed. And then she nearly had a bloodbath in Portland that day, Blutbaden-Bauerschwwein feud or not! He-hey, it's twenty first century outdoors! It's time to BEHAVE! Be CIVILIZED! Rosalee CERTAINLY has a point about hatred among Wesen and old-world stupidity... And yet Orson is not an innocent sheep either. Killing a man in point blank range, arson, break-in, tresspassing, threatening another person with a shotgun... THESE actions befit a CRIMINAL, not a cop! There ARE corrupt and crooked cops, sure! and yet they ARE criminals nonetheless. And CRIMINALS need to be PUNISHED! So I think Orson DEFINITELY been sent to jail for the right reason. IMHO, both Angelina and Orson got what they deserved...
@@ryanhammond8292 I think it could also make a good video game if given to the right people, this has all the makings of a nice supernatural-ish detective game. Plus they could have you play as and explore the offspring of the original cast.
I love Rosalee, but not so much here. That guy blew up and shot Monroe’s friends dead and yes, pointed a shotgun at his face. Would Rosalee be so alright if Nick pulled the lizards who shot her brother dead out of prison?
Nick's job is to stop the creature before more innocent lives are lost. In this line of work you can not let your personal feelings get in the way. Yes, Monroe has every right to hate and be angry at him, but he does not have the right to stop or hinder Nick from seeking the man's help in order to stop the creature. Rosalee was right, if he couldn't put aside his personal feelings long enough for them to nutralize the greater threat, then he needed to remove himself from the situation. Again, Monroe's feelings are valid, but this was not the time or place to act upon them.
I never registered the name Orson for the Bauerswine. Firstly...Orson Welles...who had a serious weight issue. Then combine his name to get Orwell..the surname of the author of Animal Farm, where the pigs are the villains.
in the Grimm series I felt sorry for Hap old friend of Monroe besides Hap being a creature Hap was full of humor he was good people Hap didn't deserve to die 😟😟😟😟😟😟😨😨😨😨😨
I liked Hap…he was such a bro. So i understand Monroe in this but like Rosalee said. It ain’t about us. This was not our decision to make. But this is not just about “old feuds” he murdered a close friend of his in cold blood. That is not something you expect someone to simply “let go”. She could have argued the sooner we sold the case, the sooner the pig goes back to his pen.
O povo passa 15 anos pedindo legenda, nesse tempo tinha aprendido a falar umas 5 línguas fluentemente sem nem se dedicar só a isso, que dirá apenas inglês que está em praticamente tudo.
Hold up, i watched only first three episodes of first season. Let me get this straight. Is it two grimm working together with 3 furries or 1 grimm working with 4 furries?
Monroe and other blud killed bauerschwein for fun and because they could, orson evened things up a bit. The old saying don't dish out what you can't take ?
Rosalee is so rude, she doesn’t even want to consider Monroes feeling ... He just killed his COUSIN, but she’d rather love Nick, might as well marry Nick as she treats him better
It has nothing to do with Nick; it's about getting justice for the dead kids and making sure others don't die. I do agree that she could have been a little more understanding of Monroe's feelings, though.
@@MouthwashTyphoon She is right about using Orson for make justice to the kids, but she was also very indifferent about what happened to Monroe in his case and his feelings, even to the point to generalize it to a random wesen species dispute and kick out Monroe for being a conservative blutbad. Is true that the wolf and pig wesen normally hates each other, but Monroe was literally doing nothing to nobody and Orson came and murdered one of his closest best friend, who was innocent, at Monroe's own house, and later he came in again and put a shotgun in his face and threatened to kill him as well. I mean, I would have help Nick in the end but him and Rosalee behaved really bad with Monroe here
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Well... "he stuck a shotgun in my mouth, IN MY HOUSE" i can kind of understand Monroe here
Yeah so can I
@@christophermartinez1159 but when it comes to Someone kids and u can help stop them
If they were adults then i would side with Monroe but because its kids nah u put shut aside when some1 kills kids
It's also face not mouth
“That’s right and my kind can finish it” best line ever well said monroe 1:35
Nah it was one of the few times Monroe let some backward bigoted thinking take over. He is mostly beyond this ridiculous tribal thinking and I even though I get why he is mad personally, he should realize keeping that fire of hate alive is not helping anyone.
You can tell Orson has nothing but respect and gratitude for Rosalee when she said Nick and the others should be able to get help despite Monroe and Orson's feud.
Rosalee does have a point about the letting the old feud go.....but in all fairness this isn't a random wesen, the guy did put a shotgun in monroes face so you can kinda understand where he's coming from
True. On the other hand, you gotta start SOMEWHERE.
And this is why Rosalee is awesome.
Yes!
She is the clam one of the pair. That is why she runs the shop of making cures!!! And Monroe runs out to fix clocks!!!
She is best girl
Your so right
Well, it's PART of the reason Rosalie is awesome. She throws bricks like fastballs, swings a mean right hook and cooks spells like a born hexenbeast. Gotta love a girl with skills.
I can understand Monroe and Rosalee’s point here.
Monroe’s friend was killed by Orson and he got threatened by him with a shotgun right on his head.
To him, there’s no way for him to forget about this and letting it go. I mean, who would want to let go of someone who killed your friend and was going to kill you with a gun pointed right on your head?
Plus Orson’s attitude toward Angelina’s death... can't say he didn't do it on purpose.
In addition to this, Nick and Hank were the ones who brought him out because they need his help, that’s like as if they ignored how he feels and betrayed him, not to mention Rosalee is not standing on his side.
On the other hand, Rosalee puts the two kids as the priority, it doesn’t seem wrong since she really has nothing to do with their feud. To her, that’s something in the past and she doesn’t want this feud to last forever, hatred doesn't solve any problems but only makes them worse.
Though I would say if that’s the murderer who killed her brother instead of Monroe’s friend, I doubt she would be as calm as now she does.
So it’s really about the perspective they are on, there’s no definite right or wrong answer to this issue.
You definitely have a point at this one, I tell you that.
I mean, Angelina DID kill Orson's brothers, so of course he would be glad she's dead
@@icestar5745 Thank you for the correction here. I do understand how Orson feels and expected his reaction to be like that. Referring back to my last sentence, there's no absolute right or wrong, but only viewing from different positions. Monroe was close to Angelina and her cause of death is related to him so he felt guilty and can't tolerate Orson's words, but Orson also has his point because his close family members were killed by Angelina, of course he wouldn't sympathize Monroe's feelings.
I don't think Rosalee owuld have been calm BUT I DO still think she would have still wanted to help and do the right thing. The characters in the show were all great and have their moments. But Rosalee is a character that's written in a way that you don't see these days with how Hollywood is percieving 'strong female characters'.
Add the fact that many wesen look at Rosalie and Monroe as an interracial relationship that should not happen... They are already bucking biases and discrimination.
I can understand Monroe's anger, but I love it when the voice of reason stands up.
Not well, but what Nick expected, that the Ripper and Pig will work together, and such a reaction was quite expected.
Watching this has got me REALLY interested in the origins of that feud. If Grimm ever has that sequel they were suggesting, I recommend having either an episode or arc where the Grimm lead has to read up on the origin.
wolves eat bacon
I don’t think there’s any way to know exactly what happened, not without a prequel-esque episode that goes back 1000 or so years. That said, considering the way blutbad traditionally act, it’s a pretty safe bet that they did start it.
@@coltonwilliams4153 Remember, this is the story of the three pigs and the wolf.
Bludbad are predatory and Bauerswine are prey, rather fat and defenseless prey at that.
It's based on fairy tales. This one in particular is Three Little Pigs. With the Bauerschwein being the little pigs and the Blutbad being the big bad wolf.
Bringing Orson back was a great decision made by the show. In general, all the supporting characters that keep reappearing here and there, sometimes seasons apart. Great consistency. This is what makes a quality show. For me, Grimm is right up there with Babylon 5 and Farscape for best TV shows of all time.
I mean Orson killed one of his best friends, in his house, then proceeded to go back to his house with a shotgun and threatened him. So Monroe was justified for his anger against Orson here, but he should have let it go at least till the case was over. Regardless people need to stop acting like Monroe is stuck in the past or whatever in the comments
I agree with you. He's not stuck in the past. He's like vegetarian. He doesn't hunt pigs or anything like that. Angelina might have killed his brothers, but Monroe had nothing to do with it. Like the chef did, he lumped all Blûtbad together.
Monroe’s girlfriend did kill his family just for kicks so his anger at her family is justified, not at Monroe tho
Soooo miss this show. Wish we still could get box dvd sets of our favourites.
I honestly never expected gently Rosalie to fire back at Monroe like that! She do have a point tho.
i literally JUST WATCHED THIS EPISODE LAST NIGHT?! WHAT
I see all sides. Angelina did kill Orson’s brothers for no reason other than for fun, Orson killed Hap who had nothing to do with his brothers deaths and There’s better priorities such as finding a murderer who killed 2 people so you need all the help you need
Rosalee is a sweet woman I love her courage and patience ❤
Yep, did u see Orson when she left the back room? Looked like someone has a 😻
Reminds me of my little sister, in reason and looks :D it bothers me because she is right and i know it :D:D
This is one of the best episodes
Agreed
😩😩 I just finished restreaming every season. I miss Grimm so much 🤦🏽♂️
What streaming service did you watch it on? I've been looking for awhile now.
I want to know aswell
I've been watching it on prime video
@@yannwolfe maybe its because I live in Jamaica I don't see it on prime videos
@@cooliejones5224 oh, well then, you can go on this website to watch it: soap2day
“Hey Monroe, while u cool down from that rage fit, how about u fix my clock? Better yet check your clock, it’s 2021!”
I liked the Moment when Monroe calmed down & returned to Shop, similar to Juliette after she saw Rosalee woge.
Sad they didnt add that Scene!
Wow Monroe, calm down! Let's face the present!
K... let's see if someone kill you cousin, and months later you open the doors of you house and receive the murderer with a big hug full of love and good will. Then you can try to talk like that trying to be cool on the internet.
God sake Monroe can you just let go of the feud for just a day
@@meganbateman5634 It's not about the feud for Monroe. It's about the fact that this guy killed one of his best friends and pointed a gun at him.
@@meganbateman5634 No one can blame Monroe for his reaction. If you've ever had a friend and relative murdered you wouldn't want to see the person that did you wrong. We had two dogs in our garage and one had to be put down due to having an advanced case of rabies, the one that didn't get rabies saw the guy putting his pal to rest and he did not take that well and tried to lunge at him and it took me and my brother to hold him down. Everytime he sees that guy he immediately tries to lunge at him with the intent to kill, judging from the way his teeth are exposed along with the intensity of how our dog stares at him. Considering that Monroe is a werewolf I can imagine the kind of uncontrollable hatred since dogs and wolves are very social animals and anyone messing with their pack is considered an enemy worth killing.
I wonder, can some wesen really work with others?
I mean, most of them are made to be a pain in the a** against other poor wesen, like that catwesen that hunted the bunnies.
that was a fox wesen. the alley cats are the ones that go after the rats.
Wel, some wesen are working with a Grimm....
Boy, when Monroe puts his foot down, he... really makes a mess.
I'm running through the series (again 😁) and I watched the episode where Hap died just yesterday. So maybe the wound is still fresh, but I'm kinda leaning toward Monroe's side here. Rosalee's right in that the feuds need to stop, but we can't pretend like none of that happened. Orson's locked up for a reason and he needs to remember that.
On the second thought I take my words about Anglina back at some point...
She may BE a hot-head, but you should've seen her face when Monroe said he was willing to take a risk when he drank the Deadfaint. No to mention the concearn on her face when she thought Monroe was REALLY dead plus her rescue breathing him...
She really DID love him...
So his reation on Orson's gloat about Angelina being dead is very reasonable.
Rosalee is so cute
Monroe DEFINITELY went berserk for the right reason!
Can't say I defend Orson for his behaviour, but Angelina really IS a bitch! (Let alone her intention of killing Nick) And not the smartest one... If it wasn't for Angelina's bloodthurst, Hap wouldn't probably die... Not only Angelina had Orson's brothers killed in cold blood, but she's actually responsible for Hap's death, whether she acknowledges this or not...
Monroe was right. If she stayed, Hap would still be alive! But no! SHE decided to have FUN and left her brother alone without thinking about any consequences like some brain-dead jenny-ass! Assuming she HAD any brain... And got BOTH her brothers killed. And then she nearly had a bloodbath in Portland that day, Blutbaden-Bauerschwwein feud or not! He-hey, it's twenty first century outdoors! It's time to BEHAVE! Be CIVILIZED!
Rosalee CERTAINLY has a point about hatred among Wesen and old-world stupidity...
And yet Orson is not an innocent sheep either. Killing a man in point blank range, arson, break-in, tresspassing, threatening another person with a shotgun... THESE actions befit a CRIMINAL, not a cop! There ARE corrupt and crooked cops, sure! and yet they ARE criminals nonetheless. And CRIMINALS need to be PUNISHED! So I think Orson DEFINITELY been sent to jail for the right reason.
IMHO, both Angelina and Orson got what they deserved...
This show needs to be remade
Maybe with the kids as grimms now with help from monroe and rosalees kids
@@ryanhammond8292 - The show isn't even that old. It literally only ended a few years ago.
I know but i want to see more
@@ryanhammond8292 I think it could also make a good video game if given to the right people, this has all the makings of a nice supernatural-ish detective game. Plus they could have you play as and explore the offspring of the original cast.
@@Tim7318-3 they did make a Grimm rpg set in the middle ages
I love Rosalee, but not so much here. That guy blew up and shot Monroe’s friends dead and yes, pointed a shotgun at his face. Would Rosalee be so alright if Nick pulled the lizards who shot her brother dead out of prison?
Nick's job is to stop the creature before more innocent lives are lost. In this line of work you can not let your personal feelings get in the way. Yes, Monroe has every right to hate and be angry at him, but he does not have the right to stop or hinder Nick from seeking the man's help in order to stop the creature. Rosalee was right, if he couldn't put aside his personal feelings long enough for them to nutralize the greater threat, then he needed to remove himself from the situation. Again, Monroe's feelings are valid, but this was not the time or place to act upon them.
1:40 my kind can finish it!
Way back when if he'd learned about Grimm culture, Nick might have pulled "either you guys cool it or you'll both lose your heads."
Why are they acting as if monroe is being racist. This guy killed his sister and invaded his home lol
Becuase it wasn't the 1st thing he said.
@@julesmasseffectmusic but why is everyone’s main takeaway that monroe is being mean like bruh he tried to kill him and did kill his friend
I never registered the name Orson for the Bauerswine. Firstly...Orson Welles...who had a serious weight issue. Then combine his name to get Orwell..the surname of the author of Animal Farm, where the pigs are the villains.
I know how Rosalee feels. She hates hatred among Wesen like I hate hatred among race.
in the Grimm series I felt sorry for Hap old friend of Monroe besides Hap being a creature Hap was full of humor he was good people Hap didn't deserve to die 😟😟😟😟😟😟😨😨😨😨😨
Pigs and Wolves - what can you do?
so this episode was filled with a Vendetta!
I watch and younpost exactly whatni watch
I liked Hap…he was such a bro. So i understand Monroe in this but like Rosalee said. It ain’t about us. This was not our decision to make. But this is not just about “old feuds” he murdered a close friend of his in cold blood. That is not something you expect someone to simply “let go”. She could have argued the sooner we sold the case, the sooner the pig goes back to his pen.
Monroe is ticked
she asked him to leave nicely
Estaba bien guapo el Excandesco, lástima que era un pirómano
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I always find myself taking sides with the wolfen kind I suppose because I also like to eat pork.
This show was great, bring it back. They screw it with season 4 with vassen war.
The Wesen War was in Season 5.
Wtf was orson pretending to do when he do te woge against monroe, he is a pig while the other is a wolf lol
Bruh i am just at that part i swear
Kids prevail over anything...
🥰ok 😍
Pó cara tô pedindo coloca legenda em portuges do Brasil obrigando
Kkkkk
Cade minha resposta
@@rosangelacarneiro5619 aprenda o inglês eu já maratonei essa série em 100% inglês é muito mais legal
O povo passa 15 anos pedindo legenda, nesse tempo tinha aprendido a falar umas 5 línguas fluentemente sem nem se dedicar só a isso, que dirá apenas inglês que está em praticamente tudo.
Hold up, i watched only first three episodes of first season.
Let me get this straight.
Is it two grimm working together with 3 furries or 1 grimm working with 4 furries?
1 Grimm, 2 furries, 1 tub of bacon and 1 human.. XD
Monroe and other blud killed bauerschwein for fun and because they could, orson evened things up a bit.
The old saying don't dish out what you can't take ?
Rosalee is so rude, she doesn’t even want to consider Monroes feeling ... He just killed his COUSIN, but she’d rather love Nick, might as well marry Nick as she treats him better
So instead of helping find out who killed kids she should stand by her man in his feud and refuse to help? LOL that makes no sense
It has nothing to do with Nick; it's about getting justice for the dead kids and making sure others don't die. I do agree that she could have been a little more understanding of Monroe's feelings, though.
@@MouthwashTyphoon She is right about using Orson for make justice to the kids, but she was also very indifferent about what happened to Monroe in his case and his feelings, even to the point to generalize it to a random wesen species dispute and kick out Monroe for being a conservative blutbad. Is true that the wolf and pig wesen normally hates each other, but Monroe was literally doing nothing to nobody and Orson came and murdered one of his closest best friend, who was innocent, at Monroe's own house, and later he came in again and put a shotgun in his face and threatened to kill him as well. I mean, I would have help Nick in the end but him and Rosalee behaved really bad with Monroe here
Your life 8n the USA has lead you to accept murdered children is just a thing that happens like the weather. Do you see the problem? CAN you see it?
children were being burned alive. Burned. Alive.
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