there's waaaaay more reasons why the series in a state of stasis. Sega has not given up on the arcade market, in fact, games like maimai, chunithm and ONGEKI are extremely popular and still going. The main factors are that the director of the series (Tetsuya Ōtsubo) the guy that made diva F, Fnd and X left the company. It's also stated that the series has a cost problem, it's really expensive to make a project diva PV, most of the original arcade songs are edit PVs made by the community. Project diva F2nd had a lot of reused dances, and X had only dance PVs (a lot of the dances were also recycled from the live concerts) AND ALSO Sega does less live projections for Cryption, it seems that Cryption is commissioning Sega as little as possible for their live shows, only doing it when its nessesary . So Sega basically doesn't really know what to do with project diva, it's nor really sustainable. However, Megamix completely surpassed Sega's sale expectations, so it's really hard to say that the series is completely over.
THIS!!! A lot of people saw that interview comment and immediately jumped to the conclusion that the series is dead. It's just not on Sega's radar right now but we'll probably get something in the future. The question is; when?
The biggest Problem is Sega has Project sekai, a greedy gacha Game that also works and Brings more Money with No efford so a good reason to let Project Diva dying
what were the expectations for megamix's (idk if u mean megamix as in switch or megamix+ as in the PC or both as a whole) sales and what were the actual sales?
Man I wish they brought back diva rooms in their modern games..... It was cool to see miku and friends do random nonsense outside of music videos and I feel like they could've done a lot more with it!!!
Diva X is the newest game as Megamix+/Megamix/Future Tone are all ports of Arcade Future Tone from 2013 which it self is a update to the 2010 game of Arcade. It is also an arcade game, can't have extra side features for something your meant to go in, pay money, play song, get high scores. That's the whole point
I feel like the biggest difference is the variety in songs and Vocaloids they use Project Diva didn't even utilise the Crypton Vocaloids to its fullest
Sekai itself didn’t ruin it, it was just a shift in market overtime that made diva’s impact obsolete, gacha games are trendy and the current jp market thrives off of it, diva was set aside BECAUSE of the shift in trends, not because they just decided to quit a successful franchise, I love diva, but it’s time is somewhat up in terms of how big it was before, and eventually project sekai will have the same fate, games lifecycles only last so long unless it’s an insanely popular franchise such as pokemon, Mario etc
this video is cool but ngl there's so many missinformatoin / mixed info here like saying future tone is somehow the 4th project diva game (?) or randomly taking in that reusing animation is bad after talking about megamix+ when that's really a problem with project diva X, which came out 4 years earlier and was (correctly) critiqued for having the most boring pvs in the series, although the most probable reason for the death of the franchise is it's director leaving after X, with every game after being a port of the arcade port of the original game, which due to being based on the 1st project diva, feels really lacking in the engine visual department with an odd hyper-realistic flare that no other project diva game outside of ports (like dreamy theater) have tried on top of gameplay that barely contains updates to the 1st project diva's gameplay (which only has tap notes) in the form of quirky tap notes that fail at accomplishing the tasks of the note types it's meant to replace (doubles and holds)
The reason why they can’t make hit project diva games is simple: the Vocaloid Fandom changed. 1-Non-cryptonloid songs are more popular than ever. They can’t really make a PJD game without all of the non-cryptonloids, utaus, vsynths, etc. that so many people enjoy. Newer vocaloid fans who started stanning the fandom in 2022-2024 are used to liking VFlower, Gumi, Teto, Yuuki, etc. as much as the cryptonloids, and to a much higher degree than vocaloid fans who became fans in 2007-2021. That, combined with the garbage reception of Virtual Singers in project sekai now that they’ve switched to Piapro studio, sort of contributed to shattering the cult like following that the Cryptonloids had above the rest of the Vocal synths. When you got PJD in its hay day, you knew you were getting the peak of popular vocaloid songs and even if Gumi or Gakupo weren’t involved, who cared? But nowadays getting a game that only has Cryptonloids can seem like an odd decision and a limitation to the new vocaloid fandom. 2- Having a good marketable song selection now is next to impossible. From 2009-2020, PJD was the very center of the community, so the second a song (other than like the least popular FT songs) were in Project Diva, they were well known! Project Diva fans who had played an earlier instalment of the game or even had just heard of the song list knew songs like Decorator, Kocchi Muite Baby, Sadistic Music Factory, etc. and they were glad to see them (except maybe Decorator, sorry Decorator) in the game when they bought the newest instalments (Unless you had bought X). But by SEGA not releasing a PJD game in so long, a TON of those songs that either came from PJD F2nd or Future Tone and who relied on being PJD songs to be popular are now almost completely irrelevant. How many new vocaloid fans do you know who found songs like Saihate, Sakura no Ame, Puzzle, Stargazer, etc. by means OTHER than PJD compilations? Not a lot. Imagine a newer fan buying a hypothetical new PJD game and expecting Kyoufuu All Back, Goodbye Sengen, Mesmerizer, etc. and being met with Even though my song as no form, ColorfulXSexy, Gemini, Starduster those Vocaloid Classics that the community did a terrible job at keeping alive. Why bother? Now, you might say « they should just make brand new charts for hit songs like Rabbit Hole, Shoujo A, Aishite x3 and all of those popular Cryptonloid songs », and to that I tell you: X did that already. And you know what people said about it? The song selection was too short. They wanted their favorite Future Tone charts back. If X had been a smash hit, then SURELY megamix would’ve been called X2nd and would have had a unique song selection, but no. Cause Future Tone exists, Future Tone had more songs that the global 200 year end Billboard chart, Future Tone had so many songs that yall out there who have both Colorful Tone and Future Sound still probably haven’t cleared some of the songs, but people wanted what Future Tone did with years worth of content and franchise wide ports and officialized Edit MVs to be done again with 75% new charts in record time. I’m sorry, but if they start it now, your brand new song selection Project Diva X2nd with the Song Selection large enough to do arm wrestling with Future Tone will come out in 2030.
The last ambitious step from SEGA when it came to Project Diva was Project Diva X, but there were many mixed opinions on it (mostly regarding the song list, which could be a fault on SEGA's part, but they could've also been developing Future Tone PS4 at the time). This was probably the starting point of SEGA caring less and less (because Future Tone IS a port after all). I love the series and its sad to see Crypton/SEGA prioritize Proseka because some of the complaints of Diva X were still apparent but there are many corporate elements of the game that makes the engaging qualities of it feel so detached from the core gameplay. I'm glad that there are people out there who enjoy Project Sekai, but there's such a heavy emphasis on the Gacha that it's not for me and other Project Diva fans alike. SEGA has made their intentions clear (not only with Project Diva, but with other SEGA licenses too), they only care about money.
Hatsune Miku did SO MUCH for SEGA, Crypton, YAMAHA and not to mention the countless fans. She deserves SO MUCH MORE than just being a pretty face in collab games.
As little hope as i have for another entry, ill hold out hope that we’ll get something eventually. Regardless, fans are still making custom levels in F2nd, so maybe they’ll see that and try again one day. A girl can only dream
tbh apart from sega completely ignoring project diva, at least the community is still keeping it alive with countless mods for MegaMix+, so it isnt entirely dead but i do agree that Sega ever since PJSEKAI has left the PD series on a limbo until further notice
It seems like Sega doesnt really care about it’s rhythm game audience in general. Compared to Konami, where the E-Amusement pass can be used for lots of games, the Aime Card/Bandai Passport is barely useful as I have only been able to use the Bandai Namco Passport for Project Diva. Chunithms are very frequent in Round1s, but it’s an old version with barely any songs people will care about and it has no Bandai Passport connection. Maimai is slightly better where recently MaiMai DX machines have been tested in the USA, other than that, MaiMai Finale machines have only been in the USA, and the nearest one to me, is once again an old version with barely any good songs and no bandai passport connection. By far, Ongeki has it the worst, as there arent any attempts to bring it to the west IN ANY WAY. There is also Taiko no Tatsujin, which is a mix of Chunithm and MaiMai’s situation. It does appear often in Round1s, but only as an old version, however, there are considerations of releasing in the west in arcades, since Taiko no Tatsujin has been released on consoles before. But still, it seems like Sega is playing favorites by preferring to publisize some games over others.
The games are popular in Asian countries, not in the US. it's expensive to bring those machines to the US and also have it localized. Sega is very much still in the rhythm game business, and they hold tournaments and updates almost every month for their rhythm games. Just because we don't get the games doesn't mean it's not working or Sega doesn't care about their games its just that we are not the market, and we don't make up enough people to justify them spending millions on bringing machines that might not make enough. Only way to truly experience these games is to travel to Japan or pirate the hell out of them....
They have edited the quality so much, "project sekai" is quite a huge hit, however, I wasn't completely in the "Miku" age and I have only these RUclips videos to compare to the games I play. Hatsune Miku tapworld looks a lot of a copy of PJCTDVA.
Different people worked on the f series than worked on the arcade series. Since the director stepped down after diva x, all that was left was the arcade team to preserve what the f series left behind. My only issue is just go out with a bang, port everything, keep edit mode (even though I know there was issues with its implementation), and provide more exex charts to the pda songs. They don’t have to make new pvs but they are missing many edit dlc that was in dt, dlc from diva psp, and mirai songs. It doesn’t have to be this carbon copy of pdaft and rely on it for its own dlc. It’s just unfortunate that the pc port leaves much more to desire and just have to be modded in order to even be worth the price point
Havent watched vid yet, but i just wanted to say i had a dream today that they randomly added a new somg to project diva future tone, but it was just a regular song that mightve been by honeyworks aparently. Not that the song actually exist, but then i woke up kinda sad
I'm at least glad that MM+ is easily moddable, like it had a few hiccups modding on release because of artificial limits Sega had on release, but the only limitations now are covers (an easy solution exists mind you, by scanning text files and copying data to a master list, I just haven't seen anyone make it), and that there's no "classic" gameplay option. But in terms of adding songs, modules, and PVs, its easy to extend the game. I have over 1500 songs and play with an arcade controller so I'm happy with MM+ still.
this is a plague in the whole industry where even if a game is doing well the companie doesnt give a shit because its not making billions, and i think the concert stuff shouldnt be acceptable because its genuinely a worse experience and youre paying for it, also fuck crunchyroll
I think you misunderstood the video. SEGA recently mentioned how they were spending more money creating the games than earning it. They tried to cut costs with pjdx and that just led to the game being labeled the worst in the franchise and it’s sales being one of the worst ever. however I will say with sekai earning them millions of dollars they surely could’ve invested a tiny bit of the money from it in pjd, even if that wouldn’t bring in much revenue.
i FUCKING love playing project diva, it's so sad to see it's popularity die so slowly. Not gonna lie i dont really play it on my ninteendo anymore like how I use to do a few years ago.
Project SEKAI/Colorful Stage picks up where Project DIVA left off, composing something of a LoveLive!/BangDream worldview of the Mikuverse as it extracts value for SEGA more efficiently through its gacha model. As far as I could tell, anyway, I couldn't get past the damn hub without an internet connection. :\ I was never one for Rhythm Games, but for the hell of it I picked MegaMix+ some months before its retirement was officially announced and it blew open a new level of joy and creativity for me.../then I figured out how to mod it/! Whether unlocking my next favorite song/artist or inspiring yet another video remix, I'll be having fun with that game for a long time to come. Project DIVA is dead; long live Project DIVA! 🥂🥂🥂
Porting the arcade version to console ruined Project Diva ngl. It doesn't feel good to play in the slighest, and it isn't fun either. I'm sure it's great on arcade since that's what it was made for, but porting it to consoles was a massive mistake and I will die on this hill. And now since they got a taste of gacha due to Project Sekai, it's unlikely Project DIva will come back.
Issues are funding and licences to songs mostly. Artist want to be compensated for the songs in the game, not ripped of work the hard work and talent only for sega to say, miku is owned by us. I think the project diva series should diversify onto different artists and singers not only vocaloid. Sekai can have access to everyone and diva is just crypton? Even a Project Diva Z, just to say Y was megamix, with teto, gumi and flower as new members. We have synth v teto already blowing the charts with mesmerizer, almost at 70million. Imagine the crowd attention for a well done pv similar to the original. There are ways and the vocaloid community is not dead. You can see artist like guchiry, kanaria, harumakigohan, satsuki, and sohbana rise with some great songs, with steady views or more like original vocaloid songs from wowoka, tohma, and samfree. Usually every new game consoles comes with 1 diva game, example ds, ps vita, vita slim, ps3 ps3 slim, Nintendo switch, ps4 and ps4 pro. Maybe a new game for the ps5 with 4K 60-120fps? It’s just a idea
I love the new Mega Mix designs, they look so cute an pretty, but i prefer the original diva designs so much more like the round face big eyes and mouth very tall figures they look perfect the way they are! The new designs look like a very lazy attempt to mimic proSekai's designs since it's the top game nowdays featuring vocaloids and it's really annoying tbh On a side note, i really hate how sega only promote those games as "miku games" and forget about the other vocaloid who definitely have a huge audience of devoted fans that buys the diva games just to get two songs of their fav and millions of songs for miku
The director of the game left, he wanted to try other stuff and well, the last games he did were f2nd and X, awesome stuff tbh F2nd was the most ambitious project and X the most technical, specially on the vita Future Tone is also an awesome game but it's just the arcade and he wasn't there for Megamix. Megamix+ was going to have a better graphics option but they removed it unfortunately. People also hated X when they were trying to create an identity for each character in the game, it could have grown bigger in a proseka way but they gave up and tried the newer and growing market of the free to play gacha
Future Tone was not the fourth release in the series as the first 3 games were on the PSP as well as the 3 PS3 "compainon app" games. As well the "Arcade" and "Arcade Future Tone" and then F, F2nd and X releasing before Future Tone released. You said Megamix but then often showed reviews on Megamix+. They are seperate games as one is on Switch and the other is PC. They both have had many issues but you kept switching between them in taling points and never made it clear there is 2 games
While I don’t hate PJSK, I mean it’s good I play it like… Once a month, but having no console games that you can have a memorable experience with, not pressured to grind and break your thumbs and gamble for your favorite card is kinda sad for the people who have memories with it or not having fun playing just to get to top 1000k. Honestly even if people have done everything in the game it would still be fun, while in Project Sekai you can’t even get all the cards you want even if you pull a 100 times.
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there's waaaaay more reasons why the series in a state of stasis. Sega has not given up on the arcade market, in fact, games like maimai, chunithm and ONGEKI are extremely popular and still going. The main factors are that the director of the series (Tetsuya Ōtsubo) the guy that made diva F, Fnd and X left the company.
It's also stated that the series has a cost problem, it's really expensive to make a project diva PV, most of the original arcade songs are edit PVs made by the community. Project diva F2nd had a lot of reused dances, and X had only dance PVs (a lot of the dances were also recycled from the live concerts) AND ALSO Sega does less live projections for Cryption, it seems that Cryption is commissioning Sega as little as possible for their live shows, only doing it when its nessesary . So Sega basically doesn't really know what to do with project diva, it's nor really sustainable. However, Megamix completely surpassed Sega's sale expectations, so it's really hard to say that the series is completely over.
This !!! Great comment, deserves more recognition
THIS!!! A lot of people saw that interview comment and immediately jumped to the conclusion that the series is dead. It's just not on Sega's radar right now but we'll probably get something in the future. The question is; when?
This is correct my video just sucks
The biggest Problem is Sega has Project sekai, a greedy gacha Game that also works and Brings more Money with No efford so a good reason to let Project Diva dying
what were the expectations for megamix's (idk if u mean megamix as in switch or megamix+ as in the PC or both as a whole) sales and what were the actual sales?
I'm really disappointed by the death of PD bc it's one of my favorite game series
same :(
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Man I wish they brought back diva rooms in their modern games..... It was cool to see miku and friends do random nonsense outside of music videos and I feel like they could've done a lot more with it!!!
Diva X is the newest game as Megamix+/Megamix/Future Tone are all ports of Arcade Future Tone from 2013 which it self is a update to the 2010 game of Arcade. It is also an arcade game, can't have extra side features for something your meant to go in, pay money, play song, get high scores. That's the whole point
The project may be dead, but Hatsune Miku-Sama is eternal.
Sekai ruined it, they focused only in project sekai and never tried their hardest to find a creative team for project diva
yeah, i play project sekai but personally, i think diva would be way better if they put the same amount of effort as they did in sekai
I feel like the biggest difference is the variety in songs and Vocaloids they use
Project Diva didn't even utilise the Crypton Vocaloids to its fullest
@@mweeee edit mode?
Sekai itself didn’t ruin it, it was just a shift in market overtime that made diva’s impact obsolete, gacha games are trendy and the current jp market thrives off of it, diva was set aside BECAUSE of the shift in trends, not because they just decided to quit a successful franchise, I love diva, but it’s time is somewhat up in terms of how big it was before, and eventually project sekai will have the same fate, games lifecycles only last so long unless it’s an insanely popular franchise such as pokemon, Mario etc
@@VioliaNext then I hope project sekai's downfall leads to it being shutdown
maybe sega lost interest cause pjsk is the new big moneymaker now
They got a taste of the gacha and never went back
i mean, the main director of Project Diva left sega after Diva X -
If pjdiva was still here with us mesmerizer would probably get a pv to..
No because Teto’s voice is from a seperate company than the main 6. Too many licensing fees and such
@@red_swan_ true but I mean fanmade ones too ykno
@@red_swan_worst case scenario swap Teto with Rin or Luka.
Reject mesmerizer return to messed up!
@@red_swan_ but they added the Teto song in pjsekai already..
this video is cool but ngl there's so many missinformatoin / mixed info here like saying future tone is somehow the 4th project diva game (?) or randomly taking in that reusing animation is bad after talking about megamix+ when that's really a problem with project diva X, which came out 4 years earlier and was (correctly) critiqued for having the most boring pvs in the series, although the most probable reason for the death of the franchise is it's director leaving after X, with every game after being a port of the arcade port of the original game, which due to being based on the 1st project diva, feels really lacking in the engine visual department with an odd hyper-realistic flare that no other project diva game outside of ports (like dreamy theater) have tried on top of gameplay that barely contains updates to the 1st project diva's gameplay (which only has tap notes) in the form of quirky tap notes that fail at accomplishing the tasks of the note types it's meant to replace (doubles and holds)
@@personita2.733 i know its kinda bad but i tried and alot of the misinformation is straight off of google
@@MACHI210 I congratulate u for trying but skill issue :3
@@personita2.733 real :3
Eh, the LED screen at Miku Expo was fine but stuck out like a sore thumb. If they planned the stage better it would have been fine
omg i miss the glass reflection and how it would refract the glow stick light so pretty
I saw Project Diva at my new local arcade, I can't believe this series is already dead hahahahahahahhsdg
I didn't know you liked Diva too Suwa!
omg hi suwawako
actually a pretty underrated video, and imo it's pretty well done. great job!
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The reason why they can’t make hit project diva games is simple: the Vocaloid Fandom changed.
1-Non-cryptonloid songs are more popular than ever. They can’t really make a PJD game without all of the non-cryptonloids, utaus, vsynths, etc. that so many people enjoy. Newer vocaloid fans who started stanning the fandom in 2022-2024 are used to liking VFlower, Gumi, Teto, Yuuki, etc. as much as the cryptonloids, and to a much higher degree than vocaloid fans who became fans in 2007-2021.
That, combined with the garbage reception of Virtual Singers in project sekai now that they’ve switched to Piapro studio, sort of contributed to shattering the cult like following that the Cryptonloids had above the rest of the Vocal synths. When you got PJD in its hay day, you knew you were getting the peak of popular vocaloid songs and even if Gumi or Gakupo weren’t involved, who cared? But nowadays getting a game that only has Cryptonloids can seem like an odd decision and a limitation to the new vocaloid fandom.
2- Having a good marketable song selection now is next to impossible. From 2009-2020, PJD was the very center of the community, so the second a song (other than like the least popular FT songs) were in Project Diva, they were well known! Project Diva fans who had played an earlier instalment of the game or even had just heard of the song list knew songs like Decorator, Kocchi Muite Baby, Sadistic Music Factory, etc. and they were glad to see them (except maybe Decorator, sorry Decorator) in the game when they bought the newest instalments (Unless you had bought X). But by SEGA not releasing a PJD game in so long, a TON of those songs that either came from PJD F2nd or Future Tone and who relied on being PJD songs to be popular are now almost completely irrelevant. How many new vocaloid fans do you know who found songs like Saihate, Sakura no Ame, Puzzle, Stargazer, etc. by means OTHER than PJD compilations? Not a lot. Imagine a newer fan buying a hypothetical new PJD game and expecting Kyoufuu All Back, Goodbye Sengen, Mesmerizer, etc. and being met with Even though my song as no form, ColorfulXSexy, Gemini, Starduster those Vocaloid Classics that the community did a terrible job at keeping alive. Why bother?
Now, you might say « they should just make brand new charts for hit songs like Rabbit Hole, Shoujo A, Aishite x3 and all of those popular Cryptonloid songs », and to that I tell you: X did that already. And you know what people said about it? The song selection was too short. They wanted their favorite Future Tone charts back. If X had been a smash hit, then SURELY megamix would’ve been called X2nd and would have had a unique song selection, but no. Cause Future Tone exists, Future Tone had more songs that the global 200 year end Billboard chart, Future Tone had so many songs that yall out there who have both Colorful Tone and Future Sound still probably haven’t cleared some of the songs, but people wanted what Future Tone did with years worth of content and franchise wide ports and officialized Edit MVs to be done again with 75% new charts in record time. I’m sorry, but if they start it now, your brand new song selection Project Diva X2nd with the Song Selection large enough to do arm wrestling with Future Tone will come out in 2030.
It sucks that Project Diva isn’t being continued anymore.
This video has some misinformation and is not the best but thank yall for the support
The last ambitious step from SEGA when it came to Project Diva was Project Diva X, but there were many mixed opinions on it (mostly regarding the song list, which could be a fault on SEGA's part, but they could've also been developing Future Tone PS4 at the time). This was probably the starting point of SEGA caring less and less (because Future Tone IS a port after all). I love the series and its sad to see Crypton/SEGA prioritize Proseka because some of the complaints of Diva X were still apparent but there are many corporate elements of the game that makes the engaging qualities of it feel so detached from the core gameplay. I'm glad that there are people out there who enjoy Project Sekai, but there's such a heavy emphasis on the Gacha that it's not for me and other Project Diva fans alike. SEGA has made their intentions clear (not only with Project Diva, but with other SEGA licenses too), they only care about money.
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As much as i love project sekai, it’s really sad that project diva isn’t getting any official updates. ☹️
Hatsune Miku did SO MUCH for SEGA, Crypton, YAMAHA and not to mention the countless fans. She deserves SO MUCH MORE than just being a pretty face in collab games.
I loved future tone for the lack of shaders. I’m thankful for being able to turn it off on mm+
As little hope as i have for another entry, ill hold out hope that we’ll get something eventually. Regardless, fans are still making custom levels in F2nd, so maybe they’ll see that and try again one day. A girl can only dream
tbh apart from sega completely ignoring project diva, at least the community is still keeping it alive with countless mods for MegaMix+, so it isnt entirely dead but i do agree that Sega ever since PJSEKAI has left the PD series on a limbo until further notice
It seems like Sega doesnt really care about it’s rhythm game audience in general. Compared to Konami, where the E-Amusement pass can be used for lots of games, the Aime Card/Bandai Passport is barely useful as I have only been able to use the Bandai Namco Passport for Project Diva. Chunithms are very frequent in Round1s, but it’s an old version with barely any songs people will care about and it has no Bandai Passport connection. Maimai is slightly better where recently MaiMai DX machines have been tested in the USA, other than that, MaiMai Finale machines have only been in the USA, and the nearest one to me, is once again an old version with barely any good songs and no bandai passport connection. By far, Ongeki has it the worst, as there arent any attempts to bring it to the west IN ANY WAY. There is also Taiko no Tatsujin, which is a mix of Chunithm and MaiMai’s situation. It does appear often in Round1s, but only as an old version, however, there are considerations of releasing in the west in arcades, since Taiko no Tatsujin has been released on consoles before. But still, it seems like Sega is playing favorites by preferring to publisize some games over others.
The games are popular in Asian countries, not in the US. it's expensive to bring those machines to the US and also have it localized. Sega is very much still in the rhythm game business, and they hold tournaments and updates almost every month for their rhythm games. Just because we don't get the games doesn't mean it's not working or Sega doesn't care about their games its just that we are not the market, and we don't make up enough people to justify them spending millions on bringing machines that might not make enough. Only way to truly experience these games is to travel to Japan or pirate the hell out of them....
Main Reason: Is getting the rights to all the songs again plus for any new songs
Another is marketing
They have edited the quality so much, "project sekai" is quite a huge hit, however, I wasn't completely in the "Miku" age and I have only these RUclips videos to compare to the games I play.
Hatsune Miku tapworld looks a lot of a copy of PJCTDVA.
They’ve been doing Project Sekai instead and it’s very popular so they see no reason to divert from it
I or a group of crowdfund investors should buy the entire rights to PD series. Revival, something to mull about.
Different people worked on the f series than worked on the arcade series. Since the director stepped down after diva x, all that was left was the arcade team to preserve what the f series left behind. My only issue is just go out with a bang, port everything, keep edit mode (even though I know there was issues with its implementation), and provide more exex charts to the pda songs. They don’t have to make new pvs but they are missing many edit dlc that was in dt, dlc from diva psp, and mirai songs. It doesn’t have to be this carbon copy of pdaft and rely on it for its own dlc. It’s just unfortunate that the pc port leaves much more to desire and just have to be modded in order to even be worth the price point
Havent watched vid yet, but i just wanted to say i had a dream today that they randomly added a new somg to project diva future tone, but it was just a regular song that mightve been by honeyworks aparently. Not that the song actually exist, but then i woke up kinda sad
They should release another Project Mirai game, with mostly new songs, and minigames.
I'm at least glad that MM+ is easily moddable, like it had a few hiccups modding on release because of artificial limits Sega had on release, but the only limitations now are covers (an easy solution exists mind you, by scanning text files and copying data to a master list, I just haven't seen anyone make it), and that there's no "classic" gameplay option. But in terms of adding songs, modules, and PVs, its easy to extend the game. I have over 1500 songs and play with an arcade controller so I'm happy with MM+ still.
it's such a shame too. diva is so fun and the fact that all we're left with is freakin project sekai is sooo disappointing :/
They could've atleast made proseka basically the Mobile version of pd
Wait what how do you only have 20 subscribers??? Wtf???
"i don't see a problem with them using a screen" opinion rejected
this is a plague in the whole industry where even if a game is doing well the companie doesnt give a shit because its not making billions, and i think the concert stuff shouldnt be acceptable because its genuinely a worse experience and youre paying for it, also fuck crunchyroll
I think you misunderstood the video. SEGA recently mentioned how they were spending more money creating the games than earning it. They tried to cut costs with pjdx and that just led to the game being labeled the worst in the franchise and it’s sales being one of the worst ever. however I will say with sekai earning them millions of dollars they surely could’ve invested a tiny bit of the money from it in pjd, even if that wouldn’t bring in much revenue.
I think you left out the article where Wat stated in an interview that they had no more hope for Diva because of budget.
@@juxtaposedlime2734 i did not see that mb bro
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At least they still work on pjsk and the global versions
i FUCKING love playing project diva, it's so sad to see it's popularity die so slowly. Not gonna lie i dont really play it on my ninteendo anymore like how I use to do a few years ago.
Project SEKAI/Colorful Stage picks up where Project DIVA left off, composing something of a LoveLive!/BangDream worldview of the Mikuverse as it extracts value for SEGA more efficiently through its gacha model. As far as I could tell, anyway, I couldn't get past the damn hub without an internet connection. :\
I was never one for Rhythm Games, but for the hell of it I picked MegaMix+ some months before its retirement was officially announced and it blew open a new level of joy and creativity for me.../then I figured out how to mod it/! Whether unlocking my next favorite song/artist or inspiring yet another video remix, I'll be having fun with that game for a long time to come. Project DIVA is dead; long live Project DIVA! 🥂🥂🥂
Porting the arcade version to console ruined Project Diva ngl. It doesn't feel good to play in the slighest, and it isn't fun either. I'm sure it's great on arcade since that's what it was made for, but porting it to consoles was a massive mistake and I will die on this hill. And now since they got a taste of gacha due to Project Sekai, it's unlikely Project DIva will come back.
Issues are funding and licences to songs mostly.
Artist want to be compensated for the songs in the game, not ripped of work the hard work and talent only for sega to say, miku is owned by us.
I think the project diva series should diversify onto different artists and singers not only vocaloid. Sekai can have access to everyone and diva is just crypton?
Even a Project Diva Z, just to say Y was megamix, with teto, gumi and flower as new members. We have synth v teto already blowing the charts with mesmerizer, almost at 70million. Imagine the crowd attention for a well done pv similar to the original. There are ways and the vocaloid community is not dead. You can see artist like guchiry, kanaria, harumakigohan, satsuki, and sohbana rise with some great songs, with steady views or more like original vocaloid songs from wowoka, tohma, and samfree.
Usually every new game consoles comes with 1 diva game, example ds, ps vita, vita slim, ps3 ps3 slim, Nintendo switch, ps4 and ps4 pro. Maybe a new game for the ps5 with 4K 60-120fps? It’s just a idea
It died because of project sekai.
Most lf their money os coming from gatcha.
I love the new Mega Mix designs, they look so cute an pretty, but i prefer the original diva designs so much more like the round face big eyes and mouth very tall figures they look perfect the way they are! The new designs look like a very lazy attempt to mimic proSekai's designs since it's the top game nowdays featuring vocaloids and it's really annoying tbh
On a side note, i really hate how sega only promote those games as "miku games" and forget about the other vocaloid who definitely have a huge audience of devoted fans that buys the diva games just to get two songs of their fav and millions of songs for miku
The director of the game left, he wanted to try other stuff and well, the last games he did were f2nd and X, awesome stuff tbh
F2nd was the most ambitious project and X the most technical, specially on the vita
Future Tone is also an awesome game but it's just the arcade and he wasn't there for Megamix. Megamix+ was going to have a better graphics option but they removed it unfortunately.
People also hated X when they were trying to create an identity for each character in the game, it could have grown bigger in a proseka way but they gave up and tried the newer and growing market of the free to play gacha
Future Tone was not the fourth release in the series as the first 3 games were on the PSP as well as the 3 PS3 "compainon app" games. As well the "Arcade" and "Arcade Future Tone" and then F, F2nd and X releasing before Future Tone released.
You said Megamix but then often showed reviews on Megamix+. They are seperate games as one is on Switch and the other is PC. They both have had many issues but you kept switching between them in taling points and never made it clear there is 2 games
@@UnFuzed_ sorry i dont have a lot of knowledge on this topic
@@MACHI210 You good just some corrections
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Project DIVA already died when X released. MegaMix and Future Tone did nothing to preserve the game's heritage
Crazy
At least we have Pjsk
Mm… it just doesn’t play the same :/
Ain't no way a gacha mobile game will ever replace Project Diva
@@64RR377its 10000x more profitable. Maybe pjsk killed the main line :(
You have shit standards if you think Pjsk can ever be a successor to Diva.
While I don’t hate PJSK, I mean it’s good I play it like… Once a month, but having no console games that you can have a memorable experience with, not pressured to grind and break your thumbs and gamble for your favorite card is kinda sad for the people who have memories with it or not having fun playing just to get to top 1000k. Honestly even if people have done everything in the game it would still be fun, while in Project Sekai you can’t even get all the cards you want even if you pull a 100 times.