NASCAR Fan Reacts to VW ID.R EV Lap Record - Nürburgring
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Actualy the goal of this car was to beat Sebatien Loeb record on Pike’s Peak, which they did.
yes, so top speed wasnt a priority at all.. acceleration was the goal and they OWNED that :D and downforce of course..just look at that WANG
Up that comment :)
It was designed for battery life to do a single attack at Pikes Peak
@@omgitsabloodyandroid5161 They removed batteries because it only needed the length of Pikes Peak. Plus Electric motors has an advantage as the air gets thinner the higher the car goes and this effects the ICE engine the higher it goes, this obviously does not effect electric motors, they are working at 100% from bottom to top
Goodwood run was also crazy back then... This year it took a "fan-car" to beat VW´s time just by a split second...
says alot
Another car to check out is the McMurtry Speirling EV, its just beaten the all time record at Goodwood today
@Blake C Not technically... Dumas fastest run in the ID.R wasn't in the official shootout, but in a practice session, meaning it didn't count towards the official record set by Nick Heidfeld in an (at the time), up to date Mclaren F1 car in 1999.
Shootout times are the only runs that count in the overall classification, so to all involved, Dumas time is recognized, but Heidfelds record still stood as the OFFICIAL record until the 2022 shootout blew it away...
I just searched for that one. Jesus Christ! What the hell is that? Thanks for sharing, pal!
The VW IDR is the fastest car up Pikes Peak, in the unlimited class, of 7:57.148, shaving 17s off the previous record. It was driven by Roman Dumas who has held a few previous records up the Peak.
It was the fastest for 2020, 2021 a combustion engine car by Robin Schute actually destroyed that record.
@@seanf5760 The 2021 race wasn't the full length. The IDR still has the record
Horses for courses.
@@zachareia and the IDR still ran that year, but was still about 35 seconds slower than Shute.
@@seanf5760 Where did you see an IDR in 2021 race? Yes,Dumas was there and was 35 sec slower,but he was in GT2RS Clubsport
This car was bild for 1 purpose: Pike's Peak Record. The first gol was to break de EV record on Pike's Peak, but all ready in early testing they were a lot faster then the EV record. So they decided to go vor the overall record and did it, and that for about 17seconds. That was in 2018 and stil hold that record.
EVs have that instant torque and acceleration but a combustion engine's sound is unmatched to me
hella g force
EVs are better for everyday driving but combustion engines can remain the weekend car with Efuels
The driver was Romain Dumas (it is in the description, I can see it at 11:00) who also did the other record laps with the car: Pikes Peak, Hill Climb Shottout at Goodwood Festival of Speed and the Tianmen Mountain.
His Goodwood time was beaten today.
@@akyhne by a split second and with a fan-car...
React to Goodwood 2022 it HAPPEND very recently
There’s a weird ev rocket ship there, unbelievable!
@@HT-io1eg yes, the McMurtry Automotive Spierling, driven by Max Chilton. About to set the record later today.
You have to watch the Mc murtry fan car beat the hill climb at goodwood today , totally awesome
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The ID.R broke the overall record on the Goodwood hill climb course last year with a time of 39.9sec BUT that has just been broken by a McMurty Automotive electric fan car at the Festival of Speed earlier today, with a time of 39.1sec.
One interesting thing is being able to hear the wind, despite the high speeds. That's something impossible with a combustion engine.
As you may know, Porsche is owned by Volkswagen. So that means the EV record and the Overall record are both by Volkswagen.
Plus the production car category, the 991.2 rs MR.
I would like to watch your reaction of VW ID.R at Pikes Peak 💪
Edit: your able to see how the Aero line works by dust flying away
The sound takes me back to the 80s here in the UK. Anyone recall the good old Unigate milk floats lol , but just a tad faster 😅 🤣 . If Ernie had that as a milk float he would definitely be the fastest milkman 😁
Congrats for the understatement of the millennium; a tad faster? Blow me; around 160mph.
The driver is French 🇫🇷 endurance, GT and sports prototype driver Romain Dumas (official VW test driver for the Id.R) who holds the all-time record (all categories) on Pikes Peak hill climb with the same car in 2018. Beating the previous record of former multiple WRC champion, Frenchman Sébastien Loeb in 2013 with a Peugeot 208 T16. The car was built by VW specifically for Pikes Peak, it may lack top speed but that is made up for by its huge aero with a ton of downforce, which also explains why the car bumps a lot on the Nordschleiffe. Braking is also better with regen. The car doesn't fit into any motorsport category and is a one-off. Always loving to watch your passion for motorsport abroad from an American perspective, we in France have the opportunity to watch the entire NASCAR season live on a French TV channel, but this is definitely a niche for enthusiasts here.
The Driver was Romain Dumas, Rekord owner at pikes peak, two time winner of Le Mans (2010, 2016), one time winner of Sebring (2008).
I personally don’t really like the electric race cars, cuz lets be honest, as a spectator half of the fun is in the sound.
They may be faster but in my opinion what engineers achieved over the years with engines, the level of precision they reached to make some of them rev at crazy high rpms.
Basically with an electric car nobody is gonna never ask you to pop the hood…
Sorry to be pedantic but I can't stand a double negative, it should be 'nobody is ever gonna ask you to pop the hood'.
@@obijon7441 yeah sorry my english isn't flawless yet
There's an electric Hyundai rally car in a vid by Hillclimb monsters that sound similar to a V10 Formula 1 car.
i always comeback to this channel for something motorsports related, thank youu
Loving the videos when is your next fan mail video anticipating the unboxing of our package
Check out the new electric fan car that's just set a new record at the goodwood festival of speed beating the I.D.Rs record.
Driver is Romain Dumas, which is , the current holder of the Pikes Peak record with an impressive 7:57.148.. ALSO.... In September 2021, Tesla set a new record for production electric cars on the Nürburgring Nordschleife track in Germany. At the time, an unmodified Tesla Model S vehicle set a lap time of 7 minutes and 35.58 seconds at an average speed of 102.287 mph (164.615 kph)
Hey Ian, as you prob know, Porsche is a brand of the VW Group (VAG). They are focussing on Formula E at the time of writing, with rumours of both Porsche and Audi joining F1 in 2026
Porsche is back 😀, they just revealed their new LMDh hypercar for 2022 in Penske livery, what I read they will be racing in both, WEC and IMSA.
Tesla Model S Plaid: 7:35.579 for the same track, 7:30.909 for the 20.6km track
Tesla Model 3 Unplugged Performance tuning package: 7:44.3 for the 19.1 km brigde to gantry track, tourist ride in traffic. Not an official time
03:52 exiting that corner is how that car works
Fun Fakt the first times the test driver runs it, he was nearly passed out in curves because the quick changing G forces.
For Training the limit acceleration before the real hillclimbing run so the driver could get the thunnel view.
The driver is Romain Dumas. French Race pilot. Winner in 24H du Mans, recordman at Pikes peak, recordman at Spa-Francorchamps. And now in Nürburgring in electric car ID.R VW. Have a good day . And for you question in Mercedes-Benz AMG Project One, his engine come from Formula 1, à V6 twin turbo 1,6L Hybrid. More 1100 HP 😉
They have done Pikes Peak as well. Imagine a car with no drop off due to altitude. This does it.
There should be a F1 for EV's, if anything will produce better battery and electric engine preformance it will be there
They will easely spend 10M on the next race
@@fonzdevries4575 Well they do have Formula E already and the current developments in Solid state batteries that will hit road cars in around 2025 will make the possibility of an F1 distance race in an electric car a lot closer.
@@pauldavis6390 I would have to check with some F1 fans I know to see if it's true (I hope so), butt as far as battery tech goes, I'll believe it when I see it. To many empty promises and pipe dreams (sweat nothings)
Still, it holds a better promise for tomorow than ICE
Probably the millionth to say it, but the Goodwood Hillclimb 2022 shootout included the batshit insane McMurtry fan car. It's worth a look.
French Romain Dumas with a Pikes peak special version of iID.R broke the record of another french rider recordman in WRC with nine time world champion Sébastien Loeb on Peugeot 208T16 V6 3,5L twin turbo 875hp 875kg, 1to 1 horses/weight, 1 of 1 car. 😉
Multi gear transmissions exist to remain in the optimal band of a torque curve of an engine and electric motors don't have a torque curve, they have torque, from 0rpm to max rpm they have the same torque, so you don't really need a transmission to stay in a torque curve.
In most cases, they do use a torque converter to step down the motor RPM -> wheels RPM.
And in vehicles meant to go on both road and rough terrain, they may use a multigear tranmission anyway as to give the car say, a torque of 500 at 0-top speed and a torque of 2000 from 0-50 on rough terrain by stepping down the wheel RPM 4x but by doing that stepping up the torque per rpm by the same amount.
Even some in-hub motor designs use a built in motor RPM to wheel RPM converter to step down the rpm and step up the torque.
Hub motors without torque converters would be best for least amount of parts that can fail.
@@oskar6747 yeah and that's why these new axial motors are so great. They offer greater torque than radials and can be made to fit into or behind a wheel.
You'd have the potential of perfect torque vectoring without having any distribution hardware or gearboxes.
Ian, don't forget that VW owns the Bugatti brand, which means the Veyron. So they're experienced in serious speed! At the other end of the scale, my wife drives a Mitsubishi ASX which has CVT (Constant Variable Transmission). But that's only a 2.0 litre SUV, haha
I'd be much more interested in seeing the acceleration dynamics than rpm in a one gear or direct drive car. Lateral Gs in these down force monsters have got to get painful
It must be losing power by the end of the lap. I rewatched the beginning and he hit 260 with ease. I thought he would be over 300 hundred on the final straight.
Sounds like my e-bike, not quite high pitched or as loud. Befits it’s Banshee name. Check out the fan car at Goodwood !
"Lovely terrain and hills and mountains and trees," yes, but we should be reminded that, for some reason, former F1 World Champion Sir Jackie Stewart called this place "The Green Hell."
i love noise of gas powered cars but i live in EU and apparently they vote to ban selling new cars with combustion engines from 2035 so i guess it's time to focus more on electric cars
I've been last year to a Formula E race and it was the most entertaining race that I ever watch.
Just for you to know, if you don't already, you can go any time to the Nurburgring and be driven by what they call a "taxi" or drive your own car for some money.... Being driven even in only a regular car is pretty scary. A must try.
Personally i'm too old school to be impressed by these electric cars. i think they are fine for competing against normal everyday transport type of cars, but if i was going to spend more money on an experience. i want more mechanical interaction and a sound that's pleasing to the ear. the feel a craftsmen made the car. That electric motor whine will never raise my heartbeat. sorry its just how it is and i doubt i'm alone. Its not just the speed its the whole experience that counts.
The ID-R is a great car and so fast. It can't touch a formula 1 car or the Porsche 919 Hybrid Evo but it should be close to a LMP1 car on track which is still crazy fast.
You should check if someone has done the Nürburgring track in your Pickup Truck
The ID was held back because of a limited top speed in the straights.
Unbeatable up a windy mountain road at altitude.
But an amazing car.
E-racing might be worth covering.
I think they are driverless electric Le Mans type vehicles.
Very strange type of racing.
And it still have the same horsepower on the mountains while normal combustion cars would lose few horsepowers because of less oxygen the higher you go
Formula E
It's normal when you ear since for ever gas engine to be upset about the electric sound, what is annoy me with anti- electric motorsports fans is it's like they didn't give a s*** about the drivers skills , all they want is earing big motors, fore sure it is something it miss but there will be always great moves, smoking tires, action, crashes and all what is doing motorsport so amazing to watch. And as you say these cars are impressives by theirs performances!
you have to watch goodwood 2022 new records and car reveals
You should react to “best sounding racer cars ever” from the Belgian Motorsport channel. It has a little bit of everything. Got cars, rally cars, f1 cars, Lemans, touring cars and more.
3:33 yes , they don't need it at all
I agree with the legendary f1 designer Adrian newey. Petrol can’t be the future but electric also has a ton of issues. I personally see the future being in alternative combustion like the hydrogen combustion car that Toyota built and entered into the 6h at Fuji
Driver himself said that the car can go even more speed during big corners but G's make it harder as hell.
I recommend you should watch Kevin Estre's Nordschleife lap from P11 to P1. Amazing driving
I too am on old ICE engine fan, noise, smell etc exactly the same as you but I now drive Electric (Tesla) and it's definitely the future. I have driven a lot of "supercars" but my Tesla, a standard family saloon, is faster, it leaves my mates Porsche in the dust. I've got past the noise thing (the traditional queue for speed) and just enjoy the sheer speed and acceleration of electric
I have no car since 2017 (I live in Sweden and I have no kids, so I really don't need one very often) but since I rented a Tesla for the first time for a road trip to Italy in 2017 (about a month after I sold my last car) I really don't want to drive anything that's not electric anymore (I have to at work, so I do that, and I get paid of course, but I'm not too fond of it).
My main vehicle now is an electric EU-moped (=max 4 kW and max 45 km/h) and I actually prefer that over any combustion car I've ever driven. I just love the silence and the feeling.
At the end of the day, it's VW anyway since Porsche are part of VW. And the 919 Evo is a hybrid. The id.R is purely electric.
Man you do really good work...i love all your videos, especially European rally cars. As you can see my profile photo i m a Peugeot 208 owner! Greetings from Ioannina Greece!
There was someone at the sideline with a remote controle.... Thats how that car sounds.
The guy in the video, Romain Dumas, actually won Le Mans in 2016... in a Porsche 919 Hybrid..!
in the lead up to this record lap you could drive the ID.R for free in RaceRoom Racing Experience (racing simulator in case you don't know). It was so much fun and so fast to drive it in the simulator. And easy, you just step on the accelerator and occasionally on the brakes. Anyway, ever since driving this car (even if only in a simulator) it completely changed my view on electric cars. The driving is the same, the only difference is the engine.
270 KMh damn
My favorite Nurburgring video is the Ariel Atom vs Corvette Z06.
You could checkout the idr doing pikes peak too it’s insane or maybe learn about pikes peak
Like gas (petrol) all you want, butt here's my truth...
Either gas has reached it's top or we're getting F'ed on preformance (mileage), the biggest limitation on EV's is the battery
I like the noise of gas on the track, derby and pull, I will not miss it on the street
On electrics cars, no transmission at all, jus how fast the rotor can turn. And the bump you can hear is the flat bottom of the car who hit the ground...not really the flat bottom but the reference plan who's more lower than the flat bottom.
By the way, excuse my English, I'm not a native enshlish speaker ...
It might not have the top end especially later in the track as the charge comes down, but its time advantage is corners. late braking and a Really hard squirt out of the corners.
Try breaking the record in an 1983 Porsche.
I#m into electric RC Cars and therefor I'm used to the sound of electric motors.. Compared to the RC Cars this ID.R revs so high, that's amazing.
Check out the Mcmurty Speirling breaking the hillclimb record at goodwood. It's unreal to watch and this vw is the previous record holder
That was fast 🤠👌
The top speed seems the same with 270 as the M6 GTE with it's 54 overtakes that you had BUT the way this one gets to that speed is spine twisting just like the corner speeds !
Ian I sent you 10 full size blocks of Whittakers chocolate. Tracking shows they got to your city then "Delivery attempted but was not able to be completed. Unclaimed."
Bummer bro :/ hope it is just an odd message and they are in your PO Box.
You know Porsche and VW are in the same company right? Maybe VW arent that knowned for racing but they arent strangers to that (old f3 engine manufactuter,some touring,wrc) ,also Audi Lamborghini Skoda Seat Bugatti Ducatti are in the same company so from them dont be surprised if one of them does some insane car .
the creasyest thing is this id.r can do this laptime on its own !
more than 6 g in corners u need a suit like for the eurofighter
Rosberg drove it at the Nurburgring GP track for a video, you should check it out
Gas internal combustion is going to -- has to -- die. However, hydrogen IC is definitely coming up.
As to braking: Part of the braking is energy recovery, which definitely helps.
the top speed between this and porsche did make all the diff. if this topped around 300 i think i dare to say it mightve gone to near round 5 min. or under even, but maybe not im just guessing here
Please react to the queen of the Nürburgring Sabine Schmitz driving the Ring in a Ford Transit Van. Watch Richard Hammond (Top Gear) wetting himself. 😂
The "limit" of top speed is due to energy savings.
Racing if we like it or not is going electric, racing live due to sponsors and car development/engineering, ev progress after Tesla's push is down to Formula E and later electronic touring cars and in rally Cross, and Audi in Dakar.
For daily driver for non sales person driving a lot electric is becoming more of a smart choice, if your region have charging stations available.
But nothing beats a good old fashioned combustion engine big or small
this car is more terrifying than other race cars because it can pull over 4g in a corner.
I've gone around the track on a turbocharged 1100XX. Made a few decent laps before trying to really go for it and I shouldn't have. Bike was a wreck and I slid forever along the open straight coming out of a corner first degree burns from friction but nothing else. Good place to crash your bike though. If you're ever there and want to crash your bike, that's how you do it.
Engine at every wheel with a crank to the wheel, no transmission nor clutches needed.
Hey there, just one point I'd like to point something out regarding this car's intended purpose and it's downforce-centric design's drawbacks or just it's traits, I guess..
I don't want to burst your bubble but I'm afraid this is, much like the 919 evo, a purpose built machine which doesn't like extended run times, quick battery recharging or even battery removal or maintenance since it's all purpose built one-offs parts. It's the prototype/spiritual father for an electric Le Mans class in a few years time, I could imagine.
This car was originally intended for the annual Pikes Peak race in Colorado, which is all asphalt by now, they paved the very top bit a few years back around when that Evo had "that crash". Seriously, look up "pikes peak evo crash" on your own time but maybe sit down while watching, it's crazy...
The road to the summit being as curvy and narrow as it is, the trade off between 'more top speed but less downforce' vs 'less top speed but more downforce' is in favor of downforce every time. That's why the car tops out at 250kmh (150mph), it's torque and drag have just cancelled each other out. Due to the air at elevation, the aggressive aero loses both downforce and drag, the thinner the air gets.
The "bumps" you mention were just that, but I'm not sure you got the reason why they sounded the way they did: At top speed, the downforce increases the effective weight pushing the car into the track is so much, the springs and the car bottom out. At top speed the car is round about 3-4.5 times heavier than it's own curb weight of roughly 2000lbs, making it able to drive upside down in a tunnel, which is a line that was made famous by F1 to sell it's technological appeal in the 90s-2000s. Ironically, the change in design for the 2022 season of F1 has led to a widespread problem that has received the name "porpoising", which is: Aero sucks car to ground, airspeed under the car determines how much it sucks itself to the ground. The car gets very close to the ground, car slams into the ground, airflow under the car breaks off and downforce ceases momentarily. The car's suspension suddenly has waaay less pressure to work against and pops the car up, which makes the process begin again.
Ground effect tech, i.e. the cars undertray doing a lot of the heavy aero work, usually increases it's effectiveness radically when it gets substantially closer to the ground compared to it's natural resting position or even usual racing speeds. I'm not going to explain the entire physical effect, but be free to google the "bernoulli-effect", it's the reason a carburettor draws the gas into the engine's air flow. When your highest anticipated speed on a blank-sheet design is like 120-130mph and the track makes you do 40 to 100 to 50 to 120 to 30 in nothing more than 20-25 seconds, electric technology makes sense to use due to it's relatively efficient short term energy storage&deployment capability. Nowadays, a sophisticated generator system can harvest +90% of the energy generated under braking without even using the actual brakes at all (crazy), while current lightweight accumulators can store the braking energy at a pretty high rate and only set themselves on fire very rarely. Obviously generators can work as both a motor and a brake relatively easily.. I know they're the future but the quirkyness.. the alive-ness of a combustion engine and a manual gearbox do something to me. BTW, just found out about an electric forklift motor swapped Toyota Corolla with a manual gearbox, built as a drift car. O.o
Cheers, would love to see you watch something American you're a fan of, like the Documentaries on NASCAR and it's drivers by EMP Lemon or even some diesel/gas powered drag racing content. As you mentioned, the pikes peak run by Rollsmokey the Ford F-150 from the 50s with the compound turbo set up is coming up soo, which I'm looking forward to :) Have a good one!
Be interested in the se a racing EV something like this go around Bathurst
I wonder what times and to speed they would get
1000bhp but 2200 nm ! and downforce from hell
Ghost Rider, Uppsala run
This reminds me.I have a dentist appointment in two days.
Yeah EVs mostly don't need gearboxes and transmission because the motor just spins at any speed you want and it's not converted from the engine to rotary motion, electric motors produce rotary motion
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The ID.R is so fast in the Corners that a Journalist driving this thing on a Test Track was passing out because he experienced a G-Loc Moment, just like in the 919EVO the Car could be fast if only the Spacer, eh, Driver could keep up with it. That said: German and Austrian Fighter Pilots use a special Fluid filled Flightsuit that takes up to 30G.
And check out Ken Block’s Climbkhana: Pikes Peak Featuring the Hoonicorn V2 By Ford Mustang Presented by Toyo Tire
7.35 for the tesla model s, do think the tesla can improve if it got racing slicks on and the same driver, think it can do close to 7 minutes, It does have a higher top speed down the straight, but the vw have way better handling and acceleration due to the aerodynamics and tyres
The top speed is not very high because the car uses a single battery of 45 Kwh, which is mind blowing because its a small battery. Most of electric cars you can buy have bigger batteries than that. A Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus battery is 54 Kwh.
Check out. Ken Block’s ELECTRIKHANA: High Stakes Playground; Las Vegas, in the Audi S1 HOONITRON
React to aston martin valkyrie on Goodwood. You already saw it but you didn't know what was that.also you should watch mercedes amg one video
If you think about it, these cars are still in their baby shoes... A few years from now they´ll probably do that same run with 400kph top speed...
It all comes down to battery capacity and heat management.
Give me the sound of a V8 over that whining and squealing of the EV every day.
since we're on the topic of electric cars please do a reaction to the McMurtry Fan Car at goodwood it just broke an insane record there a couple days ago
You need to get in a plaid model s to get a real EV experience. The performance is so brutal with noise and it's everyones favourite just because of the most brutal speed makes up for the noise
the bouncing you see at high speeds on the straights are not due to bumps...it's called porpoising...it's due to the ground effects of these cars ...excessive downforce leads to porpoising
I think this run is 3rd or 4th fastest ever on the all time list. Only the 919evo and a couple of Porsche Group C racers from the 80's have ever gone faster.
Sad to think that in a few years all racing cars will sound like this. No more roar of V8's or V10's just the quiet sound of an electric motor a la Scalextric.
motor direkt to wheel! no gears ! but on rs etron and porsche tycan got 2 gears
If you want combustion engine sounds check F1 v10 sounds
I'd love to see the McMurtry fan car tacke this track. But for now let's settle for watching it's Goodwood FOS run.