Expired film panoramics | Mamiya 7ii | Dungeness
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this video, my dog Barney has a good run around on the beach and I take some photos around St Mary's Bay and Dungeness on the Kent coast.
I'm shooting expired film from 2006 in my Mamiya 7 ii with the 135 panoramic adapter kit which allows you to shoot 35mm film in this medium format camera.
Film developed with the Bellini C41 kit and scanned with on an Epson V850 scanner.
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Gear used on this vlog:
Mamiya 7 ii camera
Mamiya 43mm f4.5L
Mamiya 80mm f4L
Mamiya 150mm f4.5L
Mamiya 135 panoramic adapter
expired 35mm film
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You will be forever missed. RIP Craig. You gave us much.
Hi Craig, I am so inspired by your photography and relationship with you dog. Thank you for producing these lovely videos. RIP to Mr. Barney and I wish you all the best with your health. I'm sorry for the difficulties in your life. Your work here has inspired so many and I am moved to tears watching your videos this morning. Thank you.
Your doggo deserves a separate fan club
Barney is very nice as much as your photographs!
Always nice panoramic photos.
I stayed just for the dog XD hahaha so cute.
LOL! I don’t go out of my way to find expired film either. I just open my cupboard and there it is! Lovely shots of an iconic location. 2nd shot in particular is amazing for its precise framing (lining up the horizon with the top rail). Not easy with a rangefinder.
Wish I had a cupboard like that! Glad you liked it, thanks for watching.
Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thanks.
Thanks
I was surprised how well the old film performed. I was given a roll of Kodacolor VR 100 film (120) the other day, it expired on 12/1986 and was bought from Coopers for £2.00 originally. I'll save it for a special occasion.
Yes, it's a little hit and miss. Some rolls are a bit wonky but that's to be expected.
Great image of Barney with the boat behind. Gave an ordinary image a real added appeal. The photo of the single boat in the background with all of the beach in front is great too. Thanks for the video.
Thanks Wendy. I just had to get a shot of Barney while he loomed above me from that position. You can never have enough shots of your dog ;-)
That last image with the boat is definitely worth printing. Loved them all. Thanks for sharing
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Love the dog ; the film is not old enough
It’s always such a pleasure to seeing your beautiful video’s and to seeing your enthusiasm for what you are doing.
It’s making me happy!!
thank you
Since I don't currently have a way to make full frame panoramic photos-perhaps a 6x12 back for my 4x5 is in the future-I appreciated the vicarious experience. Barney, as always, is a reminder that life is to be thoroughly and intensely enjoyed. Dog bless us all.
I quite like the idea of a roll film back for my 4x5. Glad you enjoyed it (and Barney too!) ;-)
You can get a 6x17 back for a 4x5 camera with a Graflok back. It’s expensive though.
What a lovely video! I just recently started taking photos with a mamiya7ii and I also ordered the panoramic adapter now. Really liked your photos! Thanks!
there's some good work there, well done. I love that location for all its possibilities.
Yes, I love it down there too
Another really interesting video, Craig, thanks so much. I loved the image with Barney staring down the lens!
Thanks for watching
The low-to-the-ground perspectives in some of these photos are really interesting. Great work Craig.
thanks
Excellent video. Thanks a lot Craig
I remember. Back in the day. Seeing information on the original Mamiya 7 with a 35mm panoramic adapter. And thinking how cool it was.
It’s slightly niche, but I’m sure it will get use now and again in the right location. I think it worked ok here with these conditions.
Your dog hahaha. Lovely.
Nice photos.
I really enjoy your videos Craig, you have reignited an interest in B&W photography, thank you.
that's good to know :-)
Those films have come out great, I like the gamble with expired film, definitely paid off. Barney should get paid acting work 😂😂!!
Cheers Lee. Yes I know, he’s a bit good!
There's always something to forget. I shot a load of photos once with no film in the camera... Your dog is crazy and deserves its own channel! :) Loved the photos.
Yes, I’ve done that before and left the lens cap on forgetting it’s a rangefinder! I think you’re right about Barney needing a channel of his own. I’m dragging him down ;-)
Yeah , really great photos. Like your style.
Thank you, much appreciated.
What a great location to photograph. Particularly like your low angle approach. The photograph of Barney is a smasher!!! I've slowly been working through your channel: all your videos are very relaxing to watch for some reason. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, I'm glad you're enjoying the vids
they turned out gorgeous. thanks for sharing.
Ok so I know this is not supposed to be about Barney, but how cute is he :D That photo of him was just wonderful ;D
That out of date film actually came out ok, you never can tell untill you put it through the camera and it is always a gamble . Thankfully it was a gamble that paid off for you here. I thought you captured some nice images of this location thank you for sharing :D Teddy
Yes, I was fortunate with the expired film. I think I might just hand the channel over to Barney. He's definitely the main draw ;-)
; -)
This video is excellent and images are superb. Forgetting to use the 43mm's view finder was a blessing, the photos couldn't have been better than that.
Yes, it worked out ok this time. Thanks for watching.
I think the film has worked Very well for you.
Your subjects look really good 👍
One day i may get there
Thanks
Fantastic photos Craig - the low viewpoints really worked well (Barney seemed to enjoy them as well!). Colours turned out beautifully on the expired film, great work. Always fancied a Mamiya and your videos aren't helping :-)
Thank you. I'm sorry for your GAS ;-)
Totally glued to this episode Craig ,inspirational 👍
thank you
Very nice rendering of the expired film! I didn’t expect that. And some very nice motives as well..
Thank you
Really beautiful images! Looking forward to more vids.
thank you
He should at least be given
''treats'' !
I use the same developer and setup except I have the v800 not the v850. I do as little as possible with the scan, except clean the neg and scan my images 'flat' then I do all my editing in Photoshop. I have over bought my chemicals thinking the bigger box would workout cheaper, but I don’t develop enough colour film to make it worthwhile and ended up throwing quite a bit away. Another brilliant video, very enjoyable indeed, you got some great shots there.
The last Tetenal C41 kit I bought was a 2.5l kit and I made up 2x1lt and 1x0.5lt. It went a bit over as far suggested storage times go but I managed to get 29 rolls/sheets dev'd with that kit (a mix of 35mm, 120 and 4x5). This Bellini kit is 1lt so I'm probably looking at about 10-12 but we'll see.
Craig Prentis It was actually the Tetenal kit I used, way too big for my needs, I only develop about 2 rolls of 35mm colour and about a dozen rolls of 120 a year. I should keep more accurate records really...and shoot more colour 35mm film. But B&W is so emotional, atmospheric, greater tonal range and you can lay around with different developers etc. Best of all I can enlarge it and play in the darkroom.
Second time looked at this video and won’t be the last I’m sure. Beautiful camera beautiful location beautiful pics. So enjoy your Chanel
thank you for the second watch ;-)
Images turned out quite well. The expired film performed pretty well. Looks like it had good dynamic range for expired film as I didn't see any grad filter use for some of those brighter sky. Thought your compositions of the sunset pictures with the electric towers as leading lines pointing to the sunset was inventive and effective. And Barney is always a joy to watch. He really seems to have a great time when you're out.
Thanks, yes, there was quite a bit to work with in the negs. The processing was a fairly simple colour correction, a bit of contrast and sharpening. A couple of the wide shots towards the power station had a very subtle grad applied for the sky in Lightroom.
Really great video again Craig ..Dungeness is just such a weird place. I've had a few nights down there in the winter shooting the boats with stars above/torch painting etc and its a very spooky place at 0200am in February ! It was on my list of next few videos, I'll have to cross it off now !! Love the way Barney's tongue matches the red valerian plant in that image !!
Don’t cross it off Nigel. Would love to see something from you from down there. I have to go a few times each year - it’s like nowhere else. Good spot - I like the tongue/plant colour too ;-)
Man, this was so fun to watch! Big fan of your workflow Craig, keep it up.
Thanks Hashem, much appreciated. Enjoying yours very much too.
Really love the shot of your dog and the boat :-)
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Another great video Craig really enjoyed it .
Thank you
Lovely panoramic shots, it's time to take some dust off of my XPan, I've been using it less lately, time to change that :-)
Thanks. I've not tried an XPan but if the opportunity arises, I'd like to give it a go.
@@CraigPrentisPhoto I've bought it some years ago when the price was not so high like today and now I'm glad I did it. You'll have great fun if you get the chance to use it.
Made me want to do some film again, this video really captures what i personally liked about doing film, the calming nature of it, slow and relaxing out and about. Really liked the dog shot, it had more of a story to it aswell as having depth and good comp =)
Thank you
Some great Panoramas - I got really excited the second you said what you were going to shoot with :-D. Loved the pano with Barney and the portrait one was special but so were many others. The location looked so different from the usual B&W shots many people seem to take in Dungeness - really enjoyed that and what a great match with the expired film. One day I will buy one of your prints. :-)
Thanks Isabel, I usually shoot b&w down there but I liked the subtle colours doing it this way.
Nice video. You’re really committed to your b-roll. That doesn’t go unappreciated. I came across a nice deal on some recently expired stock so I’m taking the gamble too.
Thanks, I try to get a few shots linking together to make it more interesting. I'm glad you noticed ;-)
Some really nice shots there. Dungeness is made for the panoramic adapter
It sure is.
Such an amazing place to explore. The shot, while you were on the ground, of the dog waiting for you to pick up and throw the stick would alone be worth the whole outing. The other shots were just icing on top. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I'm a sucker for taking panoramas and love film ones like you do here.
Thanks, yes, being a fairly flat landscape, it works quite well for panoramics.
what a relaxing watch!
Loved the shot at 14:24
Hello Craig,
watching the video was such a pleasure. I really enjoyed it. Your photos are wonderful. I have tried some expired Fuji Provia just recently and am waiting for the developed slides. Now I am even more curious. And by the way all your videos have made me so curious about large format photography. Next Saturday I will attend a course about it...I am so excited.
Thank you for the videos and all the efforts to make them.
Thanks Guido, I’m glad they’ve been useful for you. Good luck with your LF course.
freaking beautiful photo!!!
thanks
Hey Craig, Sorry I havent commented on you rvideos for a little while. Havent been on here much! "Must do better"! I like the pace of this vid again mate and ill tell you what i got from it... In the beginning, when all was quiet with only background noise and you stood and looked for soemthing to take - i was actually trqnsported to where you were and i could intuitively feel what you were seeing and how you felt when you scope for compositions. Thats quite a skill! MOre is less and i like your stripped back way of presenting your videos. Well done, and "big Ups' to you for c41 Pano!
Love that image at 20:08
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Cheers Ewan, good to hear from you. It's tricky to know what direction to go in when making these videos. I'd rather keep them as kind of 'following me along on the experience' type thing with quiet moments and natural sounds. You can never please everyone and some people want this and some want more technical explanations. I just enjoy going out with Barney and improving a little each time. I wish the filming was easier and these trips out become quite tricky (as you know) thinking about lots of different things at once. I'm considering taking it further as there seems to be a willing audience and I wonder if there's scope for workshop/tuition type stuff here? Maybe I should put some feelers out?
@@CraigPrentisPhoto - i would certainly look at it. Everyone seems to do workshops, even without the technical knowledge, which is something you demonstrate in spade loads. nice to see!
That's the thing, everyone is doing workshops! I may be moving to a more remote location in the next couple of years so it's been on my mind.
@@CraigPrentisPhoto - where you going?... Orkney? = )
why, do you know Orkney? ;-)
Some of the first shots I had to look twice. Brilliant idea to have the handrail just covering the horizon. It made for a very cool abstract. But most of the photos were very good and you made the most out of the landscape. As you said, it really benefits the landscape to give it more room in the composition. All the negative space makes the subjects stand out that much more.
Also, having seen people use the X-Pan, this Mamiya Setup should be more flexible, as you can also shoot 120 film with it, right?
Thanks Marvin. With an xpan, it's dual format and you can choose to shoot either normal 35mm size (24x36mm) or panoramic (24x65mm) on the same roll of 35mm. When you have the Mamiya 135 pano kit installed, you can only shoot panoramic shots at 24x65mm (and no other size) by loading it with a roll of 35mm film. In order to convert it back to a medium format camera (using 120 film) you must take the pano kit out of the camera.
Looks like you had yourself another great day's taking pics! Certainly got some nice images, love that camera btw!
Cheers, I see you were down there recently too.
@@CraigPrentisPhoto yea, the other side, Pett Level, Winchelsea area, just before the weather changed!
All good images!
Thanks
Lovely pal you got there.
Loved the film AND the results Craig.Many thanks. A film on scanning and printing would be ,very good- for me anyway. Would love to know what changes , if any, you make to an image prior to printing, and a bit about the type of paper you use etc. Thanks again ,keep up the good work. Charlie.
Ok I’ll keep that in mind. I did do something on my processing a while back on one of my LF videos (I think).
Lovely. Some really good atmospheric images there Craig, and Im surprised at how good the quality of the images were given the expiration dates. Ive shot Dungeness in mid winter at minus 5 and it was probably one of the coldest bleakest places I have been (at that time anyway).
Me too, I was pleasantly surprised. I try to get down there 3 or 4 times a year if I can. It’s a great place.
I just bought the panoramic adapter for my Mamiya 6 and keep wishing I had the 50mm lens. I love the format of these things but you just always seem to need to be wider, interesting to see how your new 43mm works in this situation. I actually have a shot of that same boat you took on 5x4 from Christmas time too!
You can get a lot in with the 43mm and the pano adapter. I think it worked OK with this flat environment and big sky. Must get back down there again with the LF. Cheers.
I spotted it :). But what amazes me is how you use those neg sleeves. I use paper sleeves (those milky things). When I use those plastic ines they attract dust like hell.
I have both but tend to use the clear ones for ease of viewing on a lightbox.
Interesting mishap there, Craig. I wonder, would you try again or purpose, or would you just consider stepping back a bit from your shots in the future? Interesting what shows up when these kinds of things happen. There was one shot that had some ...thing in the bottom right corner, and I thought that it was a bit distracting. Now I know how it came to be there :)
Yes, I suppose getting more in the shot wasn't a bad thing. I think Barney's sticks made it into the corner of a few shots so it's probably one of those!
I’d love to see a video about your printing workflow too.
Ok, maybe one for the future.
I really enjoyed your video Craig, especially the prints as I think the panno approach suites the subject/area rather nicely. And Barney had the best time too! whats not to like? Take care Andrew
Thanks Andrew. I think Barney enjoyed himself this week ;-)
Really enjoyable Craig... from the antics with Barney to the great cinematic looking images - for some reason I kept thinking of spaghetti westerns... not sure if it was the pano style images, the colour renditions or the sparse landscape look from Dungeness? Also, I watched as soon as the notification went up and is in past times I watched the whole thing in 360p as the 1080 takes a while to load up. Will watch again later too.
Thanks Alan, it was the look I was trying to go for. I make sure the video is fully processed before pressing the publish button now, so they should just start in 1080p.
Wow, these were great ! I love the second one: nice play with the lines. The sunset pics are also stunning and have a filmish look. Superb job with these expired rolls !!!
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it
I really enjoyed those panoramic shots. I've never shot anything quite as wide as that but you make me want to have a go at it. Do you sell custom prints (i.e. if there was a photo from a video or your instagram that I wanted but is not on your website) or only the shots you have put up on your website? I have nothing in mind yet but I'm supposed to be moving soon and thinking about what I'd like on the walls, and you're definitely in the shortlist.
Thanks Allysse, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Yes, I can certainly do a custom sized print. Just drop me a message if there's something you're after?
Difficult place to shoot Dungeness, just because its been shot and vlogged so often. Shooting it on expired film probably added to the individuality of the shots in this case.
Great video! Felt like you graded it to give it a vintage/expired feel to it as well? Loved the location and how the photos turned out.
Thanks, yes, a bit of grading to the footage too.
I've got a Mamiya 7ii superb camera for Landscape but not good for portrait photography.
Your photography is very good.
Love the photos 📸
Do you use an external light meter??
Another clean and very inspirational video Craig, I really like the photo of Barney and the brick structure, especially the vertical. I got a question; on the dusk images when you used the tripod, do you add more time for reciprocity of the film? What’s your take on that? Some films are better at that but regardless, How important is to adjust the esposure time for that? Thanks
Thanks Alexandra. I didn't plan to be shooting quite so late towards sunset but those last exposures were around 1/4 to 1/2 sec. I wouldn't normally even consider reciprocity failure until over a second. As all films are different, I'd have to look it look it up to see if there is some technical info out there. As these were expired films, it's a bit hit and miss anyway. The camera was predominantly metering for the sky so it did an OK job this time.
Really interesting video, thanks. I have a Pentax 6x7 and recently bought 3D printed 35mm adaptors...not used them yet, but you’ve inspired me to do so. What brand is your jacket? It looks ideal for photographic excursions :- )
I’ve tried those 3D printed adapters but they just don’t work in this camera. You can’t wind on without the mechanism grinding to a halt. The jacket is a Paramo Velez Adventure Smock. Cheers.
Craig Prentis - Cheers Craig, I’ll proceed with caution! - I’ve only been to Dungeness once and it’s a great place for photography...I’ll definitely be back....and maybe in my new Smock!!!
How do you compose? Does the rangefinder has markings for the panoramic frame?
There are crop marks in the viewfinder for normal shooting (i.e. 6x7) and also panoramic crop marks too.
Nice shots Craig! I wonder what you see in the viewfinder of the mamiya 7. My friend has a 7ii and I e shot it before. Does framlines come up for the panoramic? For instance if you have the 80mm does a additional frame line come up in the viewfinder?
Thanks, there are some framelines in the finder. I’ll make sure I show how it looks through the viewfinder when I next do a video with this camera.
Craig Prentis oh great. I would love to see how they look. I have a rz67 kit and I’m think of changing
Not sure I love the vertical one, the rest I love
no probs, the cloud pattern caught my eye
Do you use filters for your lenses and if so, which system do you work with? I'm looking for filters for my analogue Hasselblad 501 CM. Which do you use?
Are you sure they weren't expired ? haha looks great
ha ha yes, def 2006!
im in a slight pickle.. deciding between the Mamiya 6 MF or mamiya 7?
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How do you metering on Mamiya7 camera (Ver. i and ii , are different?)
center weight , spot ???
It's supposed to meter from an area just below the range finder patch, so just below centre. I believe the meter has a fairly constant field of view so it's more like centre-weighted when using the 80mm, average when using the 150mm but it becomes more like a spot meter when using the 43mm. I find it's best to use AEL, meter for the important part of the scene and then recompose. That way you can set your aperture and the shutter speed will be set by the camera in 1/6 stop increments.
Nice video Craig! Did you ever had issues focusing with the 150mm?
Yes, I’ve struggled a bit with the 150mm so far. It’s tricky to focus. Do you have that lens?
@@CraigPrentisPhoto I don't have it! But I was thinking to buy one since I started reading about the focusing problem, and now I am not sure about it. I have the 80mm and I can't be happier. Maybe I will go for the 50! I have the feeling that 43 is extremely wide.
I started with just the 80mm and it's a beautiful lens, as you know. I need to stick with the 150mm for a bit longer as I've been disappointed with the in-focus hit rate and these are static subjects where you are convinced it's dead sharp in the frame. I've had the rangefinder checked and been told it's fine, so how does that happen? The 43mm is amazing. I'm so pleased with it. I'm sure you'll find the 50mm is the same (and a slightly 'safer' wide angle of view).
@@CraigPrentisPhoto Other photographer told me to make sure that the viewfinder is calibrated, but as you said even checking that, doesn`t solve the problem. Maybe it is a manufacturing flaw. It is a shame because sometimes I miss the 150mm, especially for landscapes. Anyway thanks your answer and keep on making videos, I really enjoy your contents.
Should have kept quiet, I thought it was a creative choice that worked really well 👍
ha ha, thanks Steve
Going from ISO 400 to ISO 300 is not one stop.
photobobo 300?? You might want to listen again 11:51
Prefer xpan anyday!
Prohibitively expensive and all XPAN cameras will fail eventually real soon.