James Gunn FINALLY Answers The BIG DC Question
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- With all the buzz around James Gunn's NEW DC, we finally get an answer to the most important question of all!
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The only thing i regret is not getting to see another batfleck warehouse fight scene in a solo movie. Say whatever you want about snyder, and all your criticisms will most likely be true. But he knew how to make a cool batman fight scene.
He's not action director...there are people who do that for movies
@Truth Seeker Yeah, I saw the scrap in Arkham Asylumm would've loved to see that fight and Deadshot shooting at both would've been awesome to see. Reeves only rehashed a detective story with elements of Zodiac and Seven in it.
Yep, that scene made the whole movie! Zack should have been given the opportunity to finish out his entire vision for the DC Trinity that was sadly interrupted by the death of his daughter and then destroyed by Joss Whedon.
Zack Snyder’s only skills are the visuals. It really is sad that the best modern actors for Batman and Superman are now tainted in the public eye for playing the characters
I trust Gunn witn DC as much as I trust him near a Kindergarten.
This is the man who has been on record as actively despising comics and he and Whedon (whether you wanna admit it or not) ruined Marvel by turning it into a non-stop joke fest. We've seen what he did to DC before hand and Peacemaker is about as pleasant of an experience as being awake during heart surgery.
Gunn's first mistake was firing Cavill. His second mistake was bickering and whining over fans being upset. He should have left it alone, let people cool down. Then just wrote a quick "we thank you for your support and are very excited to get moving forward"
Real simple. But toughen that skin up
Yeah, maybe he can rebound with a good film .. but he has to overcome much backlash. Oh well.
Nah, I’m out. The last 5 yrs has taught me that the only person in hollyweird that cares about the fans is Tom the TopGun Cruise. And no one else. I’ll see his movies and his only.
Gunn might not have had a choice... he's the creative but not the money guy nor the head of WB....
I got one better, the first mistake was WB taking a dork who's very own movie flopped and putting him in charge of the whole DC universe. You can't get more stupid than that.
Couldn’t agree more, the films haven’t been great, but the castings have!
Its the Writer's and studio's Fault
Ezra Miller never should of been cast as Flash🤦🏽♂️
No they haven't
@@kal0247 I agree
I don't like that they called Henry Cavill back, told him to announce it then fired him two weeks later. Not to mention all that crap about announcing another superman movie without him on his birthday. They have wronged this man greatly.
Gunn made a huge mistake by not giving millions of fans the chance to see the version of Superman we were all waiting for. Now I hope the suits at dc and wb pay the ultimate price at the box-office once superWOKE comes out. No one is interested in seeing young superSOY. There's the smallville version. There was no necessity to see that again. This fan was willing to give them a chance, now I'm so out.
Its Zazlav who did it he is to blame
Millions of DC fans doesn't exist. Black Adam's box office proved that.
I think cavill can make a great superman but its been nearly a decade since MoS and the man is going on 40 if they are building out a universe makes sense to recast younger have cavill come threw as kingdom come superman or something
Speak for yourself you wanna see the alien that let his father die and the Batman who kills go watch the old shit and let the fans get a real version of these characters
@@donaldjskywalker go away. They will phuck this up like Disney and the other woke retards at Marvel. Do you really think that it will succeed if they gone give us what we want ?
A guy that can't write a script without adding three thousand dick jokes is in charge of the dcu. This is heartbreaking, man
His suicide squad movie make two papayas at the box office yet he was chose to helm dc universe,, unbelievable.
Henry Cavill was a nerd and genuinely loved the character that's why people are upset to see him go. He was misused in the movies, people were hoping to see him finally be the superman we all know he can be with Gunn at the helm. But that will never happen now.
Three questions
1: I’m not liking where Gunn’s DC is going, getting rid of beloved actors and keeping JJ Abrams around to Johnson up Superman are two big red flags
2: Henry Cavill should still be Superman
3: I’m in the minority but I liked the Snyderverse and was more interested in it compared to the MCU (yes even during Phase 3) and would’ve rather had that finished before doing a reboot
I COULDNT AGREE MORE!!!!
The comment made about the fans is a red flag just cause these guys never respect the fans or the source material. I suspect that Gunn would stick to the source a lot better than Fiege from Marvel. Cavill should be Superman but I think the plan was determined that if DC is going to compete with Marvel at all, you must scap everything to the bare bones. Even with excellent casting, they need new characters for these roles so that people dont mix the old with the new. I can respect that even though they made great actor choices and takes a lot of balls. Will it work? The deck is stacked against them, but they need pure zero start and this is something that needed to happen.
If Marvel wanted to enact a new grand arc even with all these unlikable characters. They should have started back at phase 1 and not continue off the old saga.
Agreed. And you aren't in the minority, I liked it. I hope Gunn can make a good film.
These weren't questions, they were statements and opinions.
Zazlav removed Henry Cavill, Gal Gadot, Jason Momoa because of the snyderverse James Gunn wanted to go on with Henry Cavill, Gal Gadot, Jason Momoa
So basically just like the previous regime any decisions will be over ruled by owner / executive over site
Oh, you watched the Doomcock video as well?
@@cesariojpn no send the link
James Gunn sounds like he wants to take us back to Smallville if so that's stupid.
So Superman will still discover his powers lol. I swear they will never reach Zack Snyder level I don’t understand what’s going on DC is dark not bright for pg13 damn
The movies were bad, but Henry Cavill looked like Superman and he knew how he should act, even though the writers didn't.
I'm sorry ZSJL was not bad. In fact IMO it's one of the best DC movies ever made.
@@jamessdavis5201thats your opinion so it cant be wrong but no sir
@@miken.1705 You can't be a DC fan if you thought ZSJL was a bad movie. Sorry
They could have rebooted it but kept Henry Cavill. Now they will have to overcome that hurdle with another Superman that will likely disappoint.
So, instead of firing the people that made the movies flop, they fire the actors?
I’m done with DC. I’m not giving them any of my money
Same. Done like chicken dinner.
You guys thought the original JL was better than the Snydercut? Really! The latter was a much better movie IMHO and I’m no Snyder fanboy. Still think to this day 300 is his best movie, with maybe Watchman coming second, followed by his version of the JL…the Snydercut. As for Cavill, he was a good Superman but I’m no fanboy of his either, so don’t really care that he’s gone. I do have a soft spot for Gadot as WW though, I’m going to miss her. Mamoa I think was the perfect Aquaman, but he seems likely to return to the DCU as Lobo, so he’ll be fine. Miller is a nut job, so good riddance. As for Affleck, he’s getting on a bit age wise for the part, and doesn’t want to play Batman anymore anyway.
That Josstice league movie is indefensible. Also with all the superhero movies I've seen in my lifetime ZSJL is among the best.
This channel has lost the plot.
Really was looking forward to one more solo Superman and Justice League conclusion with Henry, Gal and Ben with Zack directing. Don't see why they can't let that happen and still do whatever Gunn wants to do.
DCEU fans want Ben affleck, Henry cavill and Gal gadot with zack snyder back after get rid of James gunn he lying and destroyed
Because Snyder is a nihilistic hack that should never have been given this universe or any film project. It's is beyond time to correct that.
@@dominiquemason1228 there are no fans just rabid cult members of Snyder
@@timewarriorsaga Zack is a brilliant director and a very good human being, unlike you.
Hire Bruce Timm as the executive producer!
The best Superman since... The versions of Batman and Superman that fans.. Oh man, you have become Jennifer Lawrence!
I've seen what James Gunn considers a good Suicide Squad... and thus I have no interest in what he thinks makes a good DC film. I find myself wondering if Kevin Feige will be ghost running the DCU now.
I think James Gunn still working for MCU
Is it me or does Gunn look like Mathew Perry and David Bowie had a baby.
Can’t agree more. Was looking forward to seeing Man of Steel 2, they could have had him up against Brainiac or Black Adam?? Justice League 2 vs Darkside. Was looking forward of seeing Henry,Gal,The Rock and Ben and what they could have done in solo movies and together, but that is now shot to s***. Thanks Mr. Gunn and your so-called new direction for DC. Stop whining about how the fans are reacting to your “vision “. Did you and your cronies just don’t get it!! We don’t want to see Superman as a younger version, we want to see him evolve as he is now and into the future!!! Thanks for noticing…. Screwing the fans is obviously your team’s plan, so thanks again!!!!!
Gunn is just a terrible choice to lead the DC image, and he's only going to fuck up things worse than it's ever been.
Content source for you. About 4 plus months ago…538 (the gold standard in the piling industry and full of lefties) covered a segment on the top 3 comic book heroes according to poll data. Which do you think were the top 3? Batman, Superman and wonder woman. Pretty shocking if you haven’t been around comics for a long time. But this was a recent poll. As a Cub Scout leader a decade ago…annually we would ask the kids in groups to identify their heroes. Star Wars always won out. The OG characters. Doubt that is true today.
It is more than if the actors are getting old, it's that the whole industry is managed by the same people s h i t t i n g out the same stories over and over and over again and expect the returns of money to go up even if we are at an economic downturn.
As for old actors, Tom effing Cruise is already 60 and still is doing his craft and making more money than he did in his youth, and he is already in his 7th(?) MI sequel.
Tom Cruise is killing it!
Yes, Affleck and Cavill were very popular in their roles, but no, Snyder's version of Batman and Superman were NOT the traditional versions. Batman was pill-popping, boozing, bitter man that had long, long ago forgotten his One Rule. Meanwhile, Superman was nearly as dark as Batman. Snyder's take on Superman was a lost, confused, soul-searching loner that didn't know who he was or his purpose in life. Yes, I understand Snyder wanted these characters to be this way so he could give them an arc by taking them back to their true selves during the course of his DCEU franchise. I think everyone loved Affleck, Gadot, and Cavill in their roles. The problem was, the general public was only half interested, at best, in the movies themselves.
Ben was playing a Batman that was post the death of Jason Todd, and everything in the portrayal was appropriate and authentic to the character.
@@MyLibertyTV Sorry, my friend. Very far astray from the traditional portrayal of the character. In fact, as I mentioned, Snyder did this purposely in order to return them to their original versions (the traditional portrayals) after the resurrection of Superman and the formation of JL. This would provide an arc for both characters.
TBF: Even if it wasn't for all the hairy bullshit that's been coming out of Hollyweird for years I'd be pretty done with the continual slurry of superhero films.
If DC actually makes any decent films in future I might go see them on a case-by-case basis, otherwise I find myself not really caring.
Sorry to see Cavill won't now get to star in a Superman film. It would also have been good to see him, Affleck, and Gadot, in films that aren't crap.
Yes to all of your points. On to different genre's . Sci Fi as well as Horror should be coming back big time. along with ..sigh Romantic Comedies. LOL!!!
heres a problem and what you dont see, or dont care to see world class. How many reboots can ttheir be? and how much money are you willing to put into a reboot every time something fails? ive seen so many version of different characters getting rebooted, im sick of seeing them, even if its a tv show. You have to start over and reinvest your time into that universe, and DC has done this far to much especially with batman.
I love batman and spiderman but i cant respect a reboot, every few years. They might as well fix/improve the DC universe that has been here for 10 years than make a new one, cause if this new one fails, then what? Another reboot? No thanks. its pitiful. im not wasting my time and money so they can reboot at any moment they feel until they get it right. I cant speak for everyone else but that, that is why i dont want a god damn reboot.
Especially when Marvel has kept their universe.
Restore the Snyderverse!
But as a filmed puppet show in Zack Snyder’s garage.
That way nobody has to lose money on it and the Snyder fans will have something to watch while the rest of us give this movie universe a chance.
The toxic Snyder only fans are indeed a small but loud minority of Snyder fans in general. But the number of people pissed off by Gunns reboot and Cavills abrupt firing are NOT a minority. That is the mistake Gunn is making. WBD however, seems to realize this as stocks are crashing and the board and investors are worried about the backlash. The recent statements by Gunn and the Rock are plainly WBD directed damage control. Especially the Elseworlds statement.
After the unceremonious reboot, the abrupt firing of Cavill, and Gunn attacking fans online, I'm not supporting any of Gunn's films, even IF they are any good. They have given me every reason not to support them, and no reason to support them.
Basically DC is saying shut up fans tou will watch what we put out and like it!!
You said Snyder made WB lose an additional 60 million. That is not true. You didn’t include the sales of the DVD, BD, and UBD, and the added subscribers due to the films release on HBOMax.
Your bias is showing.
Take Wonder Woman back to the 70’s .
Aside from Man of Steel, I’ve disliked all of the DC movies (not including the Batman). James Gunn is a creative dude, he will figure it out and give the brand direction.
The biggest problem with DC is that they failed to properly replicate the formula that Marvel used to create a proper superhero universe there should’ve individual hero movies long b4 we had any crossovers much less a Justice League film but they were so quick to match the Avengers that they lost their heads along the way that n they kept trying to make bad movies about villains being the main characters rather then the antagonists
Why are the third acts of DC movies such letdowns? They’re all so formulaic at that point. Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Shazam all had decent first and second acts, but the final acts seem so generic. The same is true for the other films - Batman v Superman, Suicide Squad, Justice League. I haven’t seen The Suicide Squad, but James Gunn has good third acts in the GotG films. Christopher Nolan had good final acts as well, especially in The Dark Knight. DC in general just seems to lose the plot at the end.
Dark Knight had a good final act? It had a good ending, but there seemed to be 3 or more climax scenes, the movie didn't want to end
What is it with directors named James acting belligerent towards fans? Gunn Mangold Cameron
They can keep hiring, firing, and re-starting all they want. It won't mater until they start spending less money on these films.
I will be optimistic and see this as a new opportunity for proper DC projects.
You are too nice.
Even after the Cavill firing I still had some hope. Then Gunn pulled the "toxic fans" card. If you want another round of Lucasfilm-like mistreatment, godspeed, but I'm completely checked out of DC
Enjoy your dollar store Soyperman.
I’m out. I’ll give my money to Tom Cruise because he seems to get it. No wokeness, no toxic BS comments from soy boy directors. Good luck, but this will fail.
Zack Snyder’s Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Justice League are a masterpiece. Wonder Woman which he wrote is amazing!
Man of Steel made $668,045,518 in 2013. The ticket price was an average of $ 8.35 = $ 880,059,963 in 2022 money at an average ticket price of $ 11. That would be the Top 5 of 2022's movies, beating out Wakanda Forever by nearly 100 million. But the money is not the important thing here. The audience number is. So, let us take a look at that
Man of Steel (2013): about 80 million globally
Wakanda Forever (2022): about 71 million globally
Thor: Love and Thunder (2022) about 70 million globally
This means Man of Steel had about 10 million people more watching it, if you rule-of-thumb it
Dr. Strange: Madness Forever (2022) has 87 million people, so that one would have to be compared to Batman vs. Superman: Something Justice Stuff from 2016, with an average ticket price of $ 9.57
That would bring that one to an audience of about 91 million globally. That audience number would bring it to 1 billion and some change (4 million change), narrowly beating out Jurassic World Park Virus Chase Movie to take Number 2 in 2022, far behind Tom Cruise: Flying For Real
The Warner Bros problem was that of greed. They looked at Avengers (2012) with its $ 1,5 billion+ (at a ticket price on average of $ 7,92) that brought in a whopping 191 million into their seats. That was always impossible on a second movie. Cameron will fail at his stuff too. And Gunn will lose big. Those are the numbers. Does not matter if you like Snyder's stuff or not (I am so-so on it, I was not a big fan). But what they now have done is tell people, "here is the off ramp", and anybody who has ever done numbers with rebrands (and I have professionally) will tell you that you never show a paying customer the off ramp, you never announce the change of a formula, because if even half of the people who scored e.g. Man of Steel a solid (not great) 7.6 in the user score will not show up for The Superman(TM) with another Pattinson-like age group actor, you will have lost about 35 to 40 million of your potential customer base
Blah Blah Blah... "but it's a movie, not a brand"
Not anymore. All of this is are brands. They are Coca-Cola. They are McDonald's.
So, Gunn will lose his job... or not, Hollywood like Big Tech is known for letting morons overstay their usefulness
But they will crash and burn. On the other hand, it will be hilarious.
It doesn’t matter to me anymore. Because of Gunn, I am done with DC.
Hollywoke will always toss out the baby with the bathwater. I liked the Snyderverse way back before DC got cold feet and got rid of Snyder. The direction was going to be darker than the MCU and that was fine with me.
A younger version of superman an origin story they say how original do a batman origin story next that'll be groundbreaking
"The theatrical cut of Justice League was better"
Funniest shit I have heard from this channel
I gotta say, your screen name: "worldclassbullshitters" is perfect. Because your assertion that Joss Whedon's Justice League was better than the Zach Snyder version of Justice League is perfectly applicable to that screen name. Saying the JW Justice League is the superior version is some WORLD CLASS BULLSH!T!!!!
I never liked James Gunn's movies and I don't see how you can run a movie studio also there's too many heads of Warner Brothers discovery
Go woke go broke
I disagree with you. Ben Affleck was, and still IS, an absolutely HORRIBLE Batman! One of the worst ones out there, not that any of them have been good or comic-accurate, in my opinion. But Batfleck and Pat-man, are among the worst Batmans ever, down there with Clooney and Kilmer. I'm glad to see Affleck won't be ruining the character anymore, and I didn't like Gal Gadot and her awful accent and stiff acting as Wonder Woman, either. The only true loss here is Henry Cavill as Superman. While it does kinda suck, Superman isn't that hard of a character to play and I'm sure other, younger, far cheaper actors out there can do just as good of a job as Cavill.
All I want is for DC movies to no longer suck, and I've been waiting ten years for them to finally reboot this Zack Snyder dumpster fire that is the DCEU.
I had hope that Gunn could have used cavill in a soft reboot like a new bond same actor new world and then expand again. I've grown so meh with superhero movies the excitement the fun is no longer there. I will not be spending any money on any of the dceu in 23 and when the reboot happens I'll have to see a trailer but I'm not looking forward in an origin or a retelling of the Donner movie
Warner Bros need to understand the fans are the customers who pay for the comic books , the merchandise and collectibles and they pay to go see the movies and buy the DVDs but yet the fans are strongly spoken out they want Henry Cavill as there Superman history repeats itself Warner Bros made the same mistake with Michael Keaton but fans are the paying customer you're not going to buy something you don't want and the fans don't want to see another Superman played by another actor as of now so ain't WB leaving money on the table if your Warner Brothers at the end of the day it's about the money right or is it about the agenda
Give the fans what they want
WB screw
I am not interested in funding DCs continued attempts to get their characters off the ground. I don't care anymore. They just keep putting new people into roles, making bad movies, and then recasting everything. I wish they would just work with what they have and spend the time to make a quality DCEU.
I can’t wait til they cast the first ever female super hero, Jennifer Lawrence.
1 think it is a good idea.
2. That really sucked.
3. Reboot and give a solid ten years. That is if zazlov sticks around long enough
1. Didn't care when Gunn and other dude got hired Gunn is hit or miss for me and other guy is nothing. 2. Cavill being out gives me hope that a new and better Superman is possible. 3. DC needs a Rebirth!
Remember when these videos had 3 ads for tits n' art, so we all backed it so we could have none sjw or politically correct nonsene in a comic? Oh, and remember how it was it was promised by Christmas? He doesn't even mention it anymore. He's just another creator who took a lot of money from his fans and gave them nothing in return.
I blame previous head of DC and Zack 'I'm so effing violently angry' Snyder for misusing the great casting. How do you separate the DCU from the failed DCEU if you keep the same casting. They also had terrible writing. The connected universe was not built the way it should have been.
I love Cavill as Supes, Affleck as Bats, Gal as Wonder Woman, Jason as Fish Guy, Zachary Levi as Shazam⚡, and Margot as Harley Quinn. Wasted casting. Best thing to do is write J. Gunn and in a nice manner, say we want cast back but new universe. He has to trust us. The other thing is to organize a petition for cast members we support.
With an intelligent effort we might be able to get the casting we want. If not, we have to trust J. Gunn.
Not fussed about JL. Would have liked to see Cavill in a well written Superman flick though.
The movies were not bad in my opinion. I was loving the DCEU.
The universe is balancing itself. Marvel is on its death bed, and DC is about to be reborn. Check back in a few years and everyone will be happier with what’s been done.
Really? What are you smoking?
@@stuunitt2947 the pipe of reality. Did you see any of Marvel phase 4? It’s dead. Besides, say what you want about Gunn, but he makes good superhero movies. All this will be the ghost of internet tantrum in a few years. The old actors will move on and so will people.
James Gunn will not save anything. He had 1 good movie, the first GOTG, full stop.
How much of the box office losses are due to WB's interference and poor choices- NOT the directors? Think of the possible change if they let Snyder finish rather than splurge on Whedon and fail big time? I chalk most the BS up to WB making dogsh!t decisions over the directors' versions- and they've a history of doing it, remember Superman 2's issues and Donner's cut?
That said- I could go either way with the SnyderVerse, BUT I still absolutely WANT those actors to continue under new leadership to get chances to shine.
People are saying 'this is Gunn's mistake'...but be realistic. Zaslav has recently said that WB needs to be doing more with the franchises it has access to. And Marvel is failing. Meaning WB has to see this as the best chance they have to create a new DCEU. That would be the assignment given to Gunn by Zaslav. *Not Gunn's choice*. I know Cavill is perfect as Superman (and Geralt, and probably Bond as well), but (a) if they're planning a 10 year story arc for their DCU, then maybe they do need to start with someone younger, and (b) the absolute mess of the Snyderverse needs to be left behind - they have to start fresh (after the already produced films have been released).
Sadly this means, I understand why they've dropped Henry etc from the lineup. But I'm not going to get childish and throw a tantrum about it, like so many are. It's life, and tho I sometimes like his films, Snyder's vision for DC came out poorly. It's only business to do their best to move past it. And *maybe* there's room for Cavill in a later film as an older Superman. Don't know. But while I usually think stars/studio people hating on fans is the worst (can you say "Rings of Powah"), in this case, I don't think Gunn has actually shown hate. He's just said "yep, some people out there are throwing tantrums, but this is the best way for WB to move forward". VERY different to the kind of thing Amazon was doing with RoP.
So I say let's give Gunn a chance. Henry has Warhammer 40K, which I prefer for him because frankly what can anyone do with Superman that hasn't been done already? Or isn't just ridiculous? 'Oh no, not the kryptonite again!" Yeah, that's not predictable at all, smh. Gunn has made some awesome films, some very good TV - can he change his tone and make movies that different to the humor heavy ones we've seen from him so far? Don't know, let's keep an open mind and see.
I need to know and see what they are doing. And by know and see I'm talking plots and trailers. Right now we got a vague outline of a possible story. To early to tell. Yeah I'm sad I don't get one more. But what we have was broken as much as I liked it.
People need to stop bitching love it hate it the Snyder verse is over so recasting only makes sense and it wouldn't surprise me if the snyderverse cast pops up in an crisis type story
Gunn is so full of BS. Caring for the stories!!! It’s all about profits. If he cared anything about the fans he would actually listen. Most fans wanted to see the future of our Superman and the rest of our justice league. Now he wants to gut the characters we have come to love and just screw the fans and reboot to a younger version of Superman, we’ve already seen Smallville…..
There’s no way you can say Josstice League was better than ZSJL. Unless you’re lying
You have a Lambo and you don’t know how to drive it. Tell me how is the Lambo’s fault when you crash it in to a wall.
Superhero, Scifi & Fantasy genres are running out of steam.
1. meh
2. NOOOO! that was stupid.
3. there has not been anything actually detailed about the 'new' whatever
0:38 you forgot she who must not be named 🤢🤢🤢
Maybe if DC is smart ... Let me stop you right there.
I loved Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman not as much then I liked it more later after watching it a few times and I wanted to see a second Zack Snyders Justice league version. I hated the first Justice league movie. I even watched it again and then the Snyder cut and did comparisons and the regular version is shit by comparison like trying to compare a base model car to the luxury version or the regular Lord of the rings to the extended versions. Warner brothers is gambling big time by doing a reboot and it will probably be some cringey woke trash and flop hard like most of the new Marvel stuff.
Marvel TV on Disney+ is probably the most garbage shows I have ever seen.
Gunn has killed ANY and all motivation to see any of the current DC movies coming out. I'm out, and I liked Shazam. No reason to see anything before the Gunn universe and even then...I'm out.
So this.. Ellen DeGeneres with a spray painted goatee/beard/whatever, ruined a whole universe?
But... Why?
It better not be 52 superman with jeans with cap lame
Man of steel was the most underrated and best Superman movie ever made, no one went to see it because most were still upset about that Superman returns craptastic 💩 of a movie. Bvs didn’t do well because it was rushed and the full lent version wasn’t released. The theatrical made far more sense and of course, the justice league snyder cut was hands down the best superhero movie ever made. Wonder Woman the 1st gal gadot movie was very good. So not sure where you are getting all the dc movies sucked, but everyone after and right along with that joss wedon crap did. And I call it quits for any more dc movies because they will just keep resetting never going the distance.
I think I must have just watched different movies to you. Sounds delusional to me.
Dude is going to flop so hard it’s sad because I really love dc characters
I didn't mind superman when he killed Zod, some people need killing and he had it coming.
I also didn't care that Batman shot and killed with guns.
I didn't like Isenberg as lex Luther
Patty Jenkins is a terrible Director and a writer, WW84 was disgusting.
Wonder Woman was a great movie even that cheezy Dragon Ball fight @ the end .
Ezra I didn't mind until I saw him run , I than wanted him recast.
Did mind Cyborg until he became crybaby borg, that's not a super hero that's, someone who cries when bad guys insult his feelings.
You're final words are simple, and to the point, but Jerry Springer still sucks.
DC Animation was better.
The Batman and Joker are great films the rest is for children, Man of of Steel is nothing special and I have nothing against Cavill, he was great in MI Fallout (great film) dc has great character's just not great films!
I hated Man of Steel, but it wasn't for Cavill. It just wasn't a real Superman story and more an alien invasion story with Superman references thrown in. I thought Cavill could really pull off a Superman, so I was excited to see what someone like Gunn could do. What he can do then turns out to not want the best chance of a good Superman. Unless he pulls out some brilliant unknown it doesn't look good. I still think Gunn can do well, but rather than feeling warm and fuzzy about it, I wonder if he has crawled up his own ass like so many before him. Its not so much what Gunn has done as much as we've seen this story that starts with throwing the baby out with the bathwater play out before.
The thing about the early Snyder films is... despite being heavily panned by critics and inviting massive hyperbolic, absurd levels of hatred, time has been kind to these films in that directors cuts and rewatches after the internet negative buzz faded have cultivated a decent sized audience of people who really love these movies, in many ways more so than half of the MCU.
Oof what a run-on.
At the same time I recognize it was always a highly flawed take on the universe... but do we really think Gunn is going to fix that?
(OH my goodness, you think Josstice League is better? Lol that has to be trolling. That's laughably absurd!!)
Synder never gave a shit about dc or what makes those characters great all he did was deconstruct them we never saw why superman was great just by the second movie he is Jesus im not telling anyone to hate on the films but come on they were bad then and are bad now
Also, a lot of prophetic things - Activism (BvS) .. complaints, "we don't feel safe" "False Idol" projection occurred. I think Snyder hit on all levels in terms of the "crucifixion" of Superman as a character.
"I died twice"
-Henry Cavill
@@miken.1705 if you ever listened to his long form interviews or his respect for the source material you'd realize how wrong you are.
He made certain controversial choices in how to reinterpret the characters, but he clearly understood them intimately. If you rewatch the 78 Superman directors cut, and pay attention carefully to what JorEl says, and look at Supermans behavior and understand that's it's the 70s (sexual revolution) and look at their interpretation of Lois Lane differs from the comics, you'd realize that what you think of as "classic" is actually a very bold deconstruction, and it also involved very blatant Jesus metaphors, meanwhile it showed Superman both killing (in the directors cut of Superman 2) AND violating his fathers most sacred moral code (playing god with history) all to save a modern woman whose panties he saw. He then gave up his power entirely for some pooty tang. And then regretted it.
Don't get me wrong. I love Reeves Superman, but nostalgia blinds people to the objective facts.
@@ravissary79 Actions > Words the products he created wasn't a positive representation of the characters and if the rumors about jl2 and jl3 were true then he was going to kill everyone off then have a time traveling flash tell batman he got lois pregnant and that be the reason he saves her from darkseid all hot garbage
Brightburn.... remember that POS? James Gunn was the Producer. Great premise but horrible film. Was boring. Should have been a bit more going on.
Most of the actors are getting too old. Cavill is almost 40, Gal Gadot is closing on 40 quick, Ben Affleck is in his 50's, Mamoa is in his 40's, and Ezra is a nut. They need to restart with younger actors anyway. I never thought Affleck was a good Batman, he's too tall and bulky, and in his 50's he won't be able to play a really physical Batman.
Henry Cavill is 39.. Okay he's got a couple of good movies in him, but he's already too old to continue playing a fresh faced Kal-El for an entire series of movies.. You need an actor in their late 20's to play superman as aging won't fit with the character..
I loved Cavill as superman, but he's passed sell by from a franchise perspective.
What is the age of the actor got to do with it you are never too old that’s an misconception if that’s the case then Keanu is to old to play John wick if you want to be pedantic about age
@@centrevezgaming4862 Normal heroes, yeah I'd agree.. But when you are playing a Kryptonian who lives forever; grey hair and wrinkles aren't really going to cut it.
@@centrevezgaming4862 WELL okay.. I suppose we could do another Cavill CGI face.. That worked so well last time..
LMGDAO
I love how after Zack Snyder spent three movies to make Clark Kent truly grow into Superman, James Gunn comes in, fires Henry Cavill and then he goes "we're gonna make another boring young Superman origin that nobody asked for" 💀
That's Smallville James Gunn. 👈😳
The only problem with that growing into Superman storyline is that it should’ve been one movie. You can’t waste time when you’re never guaranteed more movies.
Exactly - making the film nobody asked for - its The Batman all over again. with the same results, probably ... Jennifer Holland as Cat Grant? anyway, on to the next thing ... hopefully Bond awaits Cavill.
The writing was awful. That has and always will be the issue.
Bad decisions..
It will matter to james gunn when people dont pay to see his movies
I don’t want to see gunns super soy boy Superman movie where he fights the injustice of white privilege at the daily planet
James Gunn's mistakes aside, and they are HUGE mistakes, the biggest mistake was appointing James Gunn to the DCEU. Guardians 1 was cool. But Guardians 2 was a letdown. I look back and realize it was the sign that MCU had peaked, for me and most of my friends, anyway.
So, James Gunn made one REALLY good superhero movie, and that movie was definitely an atypical superhero movie. His sensibility is off-kilter, even at the best of times. He's probably the last guy anyone wants touching Superman, even if Cavill is in it..
Gunn directed the lowest grossing DCEU film. But they put him in charge.
Why wasn't Robert Pattinson/Zoe Kravitz The Batman brought up? It costs about 200 million to make and grossed 798 million.