I've been jamming to AC's tunes for years bro, just wanted to say thank you for all the twinkly tunes you & AC have been putting out over the years. Happy Holidays!
Give the video a big thumbs up if you enjoyed it. Also, if you could share it that would be swell! Thanks. Outro track, Future by Mountains: mountainssk.bandcamp.com/
I think he or whoever compressed those recordings to the level they were was to get the volume much louder but It's a trade off making everything sound more squashed and less pleasant to listen to.
Cool video as usual. Have always been of the opinion, that the fastest way to get into the head of a musician, is by studying his songs. Or if you're lucky enough personal lessons but that limits the options.
Hi Steve, have you tried using spider capos before? I just got some and use standard tuning. It’s great to have an interesting chord held down as a foundation for a song but with the familiarity of standard tuning and the ability to still do power chords. I think TTNG use spider capos on a couple of tracks.
Lighter would be better because you will be tuning up three of the strings. An alternative is to tune to CGDGBD with regular gauge stings ( I'm thinking 10s or 11s) . It is the same tuning but a whole step down.
Steve, i've only gotten into playing tappy mathrock stuff in the past year. Your vids have been very helpful! Now able to implement tapping in most styles i play.. Thank you!! From the bottom of my heart man. So, heres my quick question to you, please be honest here!! :) Do you think it would be silly to write mathy inspired things in A#FCFAC tuning? So basically id need to capo 4 frets higher to get the same pitches. Be honest, trying to figure out if i should really get a seperate guitar to tune higher - i always tune D standard with pretty thick strings, going on 8 years now..and i already have used that low A# alt tuning (on the same guitar(s)) for years for heavy stuff(which is the same as CGDGBD/DAEAC#E but lower) I wont be able to learn peoples songs that use the higher frets - thats okay cause i never learn songs anyways - but for my own writing - shooting myself in the foot or maybe a cool thing to do?
Hello. Thanks for the love, and I'm super happy you have been learning from my videos. I haven't had much experience of lower tunings (I did drop B when learning some slipknot, haha). Of the top of my head if you have thicker gauge of strings then thag should be fine, use your ear as the ultimate judge, do they sound too loose, etc. I don't mind tuning up, I use 10s but I'm doing it to another guitar and not my main guitar becuase I don't want to mess with the neck (I keep my main guitar in standard). The guitar in this video is a cheap Peavy that I don't mind messing around with it. Hope there's somthing in there for you. Thanks.
@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock Thanks for taking the time to respond. I mostly was curious if you think having to play everything 4 frets higher would limit the writing process, especially when trying to achieve sounds of an already high capo in these higher tunings. I suppose, i could keep the things i write and play simple(since its all cramped up there with fenders and gibson style hollowbodies), whence being capo'd at fret 14 to get a sound similar to being at fret 10 in a traditional pitch. And maybe when i get some kind of guitar with an easy cutaway, shallow neck pocket, and 24 frets someday, it might be a non-issue entirely.. Thoughts? P.S. i use the same tuning(s) on all guitars (found a setup sweetspot and the D, G, B, and almost always the high E, remain static thru the various tunings) and use the different guitars to inspire different writing styles and sounds. from twangy, to tight sleek and modern, to hollowbody HB's, to quirky cheap vintage and imperfect with that garagey postpunk mojo.
So amazing! Honestly I'd love to see a full video about Algernon. Their guitar parts always left me absolutely floored, sounds like he's constantly shredding two different riffs entire albums. I was always like "how the heck does someone even write something like this?" Regardless this was an awesome video. You sound so good! I can honestly hear the improvement in your playing too. you've always been incredible, but wow you make it look so easy
They have some really interesting ideas. The ideas are really different from one another but both parts work so well together! I did do a video on writing ideas like algernon cadwallader sometime last year. Thanks for your kind words. I'm practicing everyday atm. I think that really helps. Being getting up half an hour earlier to get in some practice time.
@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock nice I'll check it out. And bro its definitely apparent. You sound dank, I hope to be on your level one day. Keep at it, you're doing god's work with this channel.
Hello. I made that myself in guitar pro. I offer guitar pro files to patrons of the channel (see here: www.patreon.com/posts/4-daeac-e-tabs-25714591), but if you drop me an email I'll send you the backing track. It's only for the section used in this video though. That's all I did^^
You should try to learn End and End by their they're there. The end is soooo tricky. I can't believe their guitarist can play this so cleanly on acoustic
honestly all you should be afraid of is tuning up the b up to c# make sure your strings are semi "warn in" and you will be find tuning up, if you really dont want to risk snapping a string tune up slow over 5-10 minutes. Tuned my guitar from standard to daeac#e like 50 times so far and havent broken a string ever. the only time ive snapped any strings was three times tuning up to standard from a super low down-tuning too fast.
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You nailed my algernon part.the one i wrote was on the right .i almost forgot how to play jam. Good job
Holy cow! I totally skipped over this comment, sorry. If it is really you then super thanks.
I've been jamming to AC's tunes for years bro, just wanted to say thank you for all the twinkly tunes you & AC have been putting out over the years. Happy Holidays!
@@IllaFoRilla nice ! Love hearing that. Happy holidays!
@@colinmahony2274 are you going to be a part of the reunion?
@@subpar7404 yes, I'll honestly probably be watching videos like this to help remember how to play them again
Sleepy Dogs music is so good and hes a really cool dude in general.
Never seen someone perfect Sleepy Dog's riffs before
Two Snaps they’re actually not very hard. I’m sure you and tons of other people could get a hang of it! It’s not as complicated as it looks!
@@garrettfiles9992 I've seen some riffs slowed down and noticed how it's not as complex as it seems but most people dont do it just right ya know?
Evan Stanley true
Two Snaps yeah I feel ya
Give the video a big thumbs up if you enjoyed it.
Also, if you could share it that would be swell! Thanks.
Outro track, Future by Mountains: mountainssk.bandcamp.com/
I feel like sleepy dog is (no pun intended) slept on. His stuff is amazing
You're own riff is my favorite of all 4, that's one of my favorite kickstarters for a dry jam session, and was honestly a great gift
Thanks! You're too kind :)
The sleepy dog riff sounds so much better without a billion pounds of compression...
I think he or whoever compressed those recordings to the level they were was to get the volume much louder but It's a trade off making everything sound more squashed and less pleasant to listen to.
Yeah the original recording is horrendous
@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock what is the guitar u use in this video
The model is a telecaster, can't put my finger on the specifics tho@@hjkjjn6917
Glad sleepy dog is getting more recognition
Tbh, i think your riff sounded the best.
Pretty on the ears/10
Sleepy dog is awesome. can't wait to his new album come out
that Algernon one got me feeling a certain way
good stuff, man
Thanks! It's a super catchy song.
Great stuff! I love that Sleepy Dog riff and your own riff was killer!
Man your composition is dope ❤
Cheers! 🥰
Yr riff would make a gr8 bridge or outro man keep it up
thanks to you I learned about sleepy dog, Thank you very much
This just made me remember MINUS THE BEAR!
Thanks!
It's because of you that I have improved as a guitarist so much creatively over the past year, thank you so much man!!!
Awesome! That's why I made the channel. Super glad to know people are benefiting from it. Thank you!
Damn I'm addicted to sleepy dogs guitar style 🤣😍
Your own riff was my favourite.
Great content!
Hey there! which tuning do you prefer and why? DAEAC#E or FACGCE???? i want to start learning to play in one of those but i don´t know which one
Cool video as usual. Have always been of the opinion, that the fastest way to get into the head of a musician, is by studying his songs.
Or if you're lucky enough personal lessons but that limits the options.
Would you be more likely to call this tuning, Dmaj9 or simply A/D?
love sleepy dogggggg so insane he was only 2 years into playing guitar while writing that album
sleepy dog really is slept on
Very cool ! Will you do another video about FACGCE tuning? the last one was very helpful
Sure thing. Perhaps I can do one about chords, scales and just general pointers of thay tuning.
What strings gauge are you using
Hi Steve, have you tried using spider capos before? I just got some and use standard tuning. It’s great to have an interesting chord held down as a foundation for a song but with the familiarity of standard tuning and the ability to still do power chords. I think TTNG use spider capos on a couple of tracks.
nice dude
Love this!
Keep up!! 🇧🇷
btw this tuning is pretty decent for arrangements. Have tried out it's CGDgbd verision today.
Beautiful! Thank you for the tabs AND the video!
What guitar is that and how exactly are you recording the audio?
Hey, Ceasar. The guitar is a Peavy Generation EXP (I think).
I'm recording directly with a stereo setup using amp simulation.
What are the ideal string gauges for this tuning?
Lighter would be better because you will be tuning up three of the strings. An alternative is to tune to CGDGBD with regular gauge stings ( I'm thinking 10s or 11s) . It is the same tuning but a whole step down.
This channel is the opposite of mine: Full flavor guitar.
So great. Can I have the tabs to the last one? Lol
Steve, i've only gotten into playing tappy mathrock stuff in the past year. Your vids have been very helpful! Now able to implement tapping in most styles i play.. Thank you!! From the bottom of my heart man. So, heres my quick question to you, please be honest here!! :) Do you think it would be silly to write mathy inspired things in A#FCFAC tuning? So basically id need to capo 4 frets higher to get the same pitches. Be honest, trying to figure out if i should really get a seperate guitar to tune higher - i always tune D standard with pretty thick strings, going on 8 years now..and i already have used that low A# alt tuning (on the same guitar(s)) for years for heavy stuff(which is the same as CGDGBD/DAEAC#E but lower)
I wont be able to learn peoples songs that use the higher frets - thats okay cause i never learn songs anyways - but for my own writing - shooting myself in the foot or maybe a cool thing to do?
Hello. Thanks for the love, and I'm super happy you have been learning from my videos.
I haven't had much experience of lower tunings (I did drop B when learning some slipknot, haha). Of the top of my head if you have thicker gauge of strings then thag should be fine, use your ear as the ultimate judge, do they sound too loose, etc.
I don't mind tuning up, I use 10s but I'm doing it to another guitar and not my main guitar becuase I don't want to mess with the neck (I keep my main guitar in standard). The guitar in this video is a cheap Peavy that I don't mind messing around with it.
Hope there's somthing in there for you.
Thanks.
@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock Thanks for taking the time to respond. I mostly was curious if you think having to play everything 4 frets higher would limit the writing process, especially when trying to achieve sounds of an already high capo in these higher tunings.
I suppose, i could keep the things i write and play simple(since its all cramped up there with fenders and gibson style hollowbodies), whence being capo'd at fret 14 to get a sound similar to being at fret 10 in a traditional pitch. And maybe when i get some kind of guitar with an easy cutaway, shallow neck pocket, and 24 frets someday, it might be a non-issue entirely..
Thoughts? P.S. i use the same tuning(s) on all guitars (found a setup sweetspot and the D, G, B, and almost always the high E, remain static thru the various tunings) and use the different guitars to inspire different writing styles and sounds. from twangy, to tight sleek and modern, to hollowbody HB's, to quirky cheap vintage and imperfect with that garagey postpunk mojo.
Please do "5 awesome DGDF#BD riffs"
Sick video
What's that song in the end?
Right at the end of the video (the credits part)?
It is this song: Future by Mountains: mountainssk.bandcamp.com/
I guess it's called Open A with D on 6th or Open Asus4 tuning(?)
Yup, it can be either A/D or Asus4 depending on how you would personally classify it. I'd say open A with a D in the root position.
real heroes dont wear capes
So amazing! Honestly I'd love to see a full video about Algernon. Their guitar parts always left me absolutely floored, sounds like he's constantly shredding two different riffs entire albums. I was always like "how the heck does someone even write something like this?"
Regardless this was an awesome video. You sound so good! I can honestly hear the improvement in your playing too. you've always been incredible, but wow you make it look so easy
They have some really interesting ideas. The ideas are really different from one another but both parts work so well together! I did do a video on writing ideas like algernon cadwallader sometime last year. Thanks for your kind words. I'm practicing everyday atm. I think that really helps. Being getting up half an hour earlier to get in some practice time.
@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock nice I'll check it out. And bro its definitely apparent. You sound dank, I hope to be on your level one day. Keep at it, you're doing god's work with this channel.
It sounds like 2 different riffs because it is. There were 2 guitarists on this album. Joe and colin.
Could you post a link o the algernon song backing track ?
Hello. I made that myself in guitar pro. I offer guitar pro files to patrons of the channel (see here: www.patreon.com/posts/4-daeac-e-tabs-25714591), but if you drop me an email I'll send you the backing track. It's only for the section used in this video though. That's all I did^^
Does anyone know any some what easy math rock songs for someone who hasn't played any math rock before?
Never Meant by American Football is always a great start! Not technically math rock but math rock adjacent
Space Cadet by Sleepy Dog isn’t necessarily math heavy, but it’s not too hard to figure out. Basically just Bmaj7, Emaj7, Amaj9.
0:30 when you want to pay with card but the card reader doesnt work and you get more and more frustrated 😂😂😂
I looooove this!!!
Thanks!
Your original was the best in the bunch
Thanks!
The outro song reminds me of something Johnny Marr would’ve written in the Meat Is Murder days.
What song is this?
Nice.
It's one of my own: mountainssk.bandcamp.com/
The first track, Future.
Thanks.
Does anyone know the song at the end of the video?
I sure do. It's one of my own. mountainssk.bandcamp.com
It's the first track: Future
Let's Talk About Math Rock that’s awesome! Your work is so inspiring to the newbies of math/emo styles
Yay
What is the name of your guitars man 😭😭
OOOOOHHHH MAAAAAAAAN, IT'S TAAAKING ME OOOVERRRRRRRR
Wish I had recorded that part too!
Yes sleepyy
can you do a video on chords and scales for this tuning?
Sure thing
This video made me sub so hard
you know it!
Yeahhh sleepy dawg!
The part at 0:16 sounds a lot like Travelers Insurance by Their/They're/There
You should try to learn End and End by their they're there. The end is soooo tricky. I can't believe their guitarist can play this so cleanly on acoustic
Cool. I'll check that out!
You stole that last one from Steve from Let's Talk About Math Rock. That's not your riff.
Damn! I stole from myself. I should feel ashamed...
@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock Steve! I thought this was a different channel.
oops
Lost youtubers be like
Please make a full song around that original riff!!!!!!
Sure thing!
notif squad!
What string man? I mean the tuning is somewhat different right
#E
Can u do some you blew it riffs
What's the tuning?
its litteraly in the title
@@sardine7423 can't tell if your trolling or not but I was clearly joking
great video, bed I’ve ever seen someone play that algernon riff. can’t stand sleepy dog tho
May I ask why? Sleepy Dog is an amazing guitar player imo.
Sego [Dj Hanzel] i know it’s late but his stuff I’ve heard has been a little too focused on noodling over songwriting for me if that makes sense
Honestly i'm afraid to tune up my guitar so much
honestly all you should be afraid of is tuning up the b up to c# make sure your strings are semi "warn in" and you will be find tuning up, if you really dont want to risk snapping a string tune up slow over 5-10 minutes. Tuned my guitar from standard to daeac#e like 50 times so far and havent broken a string ever. the only time ive snapped any strings was three times tuning up to standard from a super low down-tuning too fast.
Based Sleepy Dog enjoyer.
More TMP tutorials please.
Their front singer sexually assaulted some people back in 2013 or 14. A little sad, but I wouldn't support them anymore if I were you
@@juno980 those are still rumors. And the guy that posted it in twitter is kinda shady. I think someones just throwing shade at them.
@@aidreiyan9071 check tmps Facebook page. He "apologized".
Did my ears just get laid?
those riffs are too gay and too technical, music is suppose to simple and creative