The Art of Community & Belonging | Charles Vogl | Talks at Google

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @FireLiteCreations
    @FireLiteCreations 4 года назад

    Powerful concepts on what community is and how-to community. After 45 minutes of this talk, I'm still yearning for more. Almost everything he said rang a bell. I'm going buy his paperback and audible to hopefully fill in the gaps.

  • @KongLuvs
    @KongLuvs 8 лет назад +3

    My wife and I have been having small dinner parties for years, and we quickly realized that we had to limit invitations to other couples because single folks are BAD about flirting with other peoples' wives and husbands. It's still a problem even when limited to couples. We also had to place major restrictions on alcohol for the exact same reason. I sure am curious to know if this was ever a problem for Charles with his gatherings, and if so, how he dealt with it. I honestly can't imagine you can escape it, unless every person at your gatherings are so introverted that they're too shy to misbehave.

  • @TheHickeymad
    @TheHickeymad 7 лет назад +4

    I know Charles. I served with him in the Peace Corps in Zamabia in the late 90's, though we did not live in the same province, we spent our training months together and saw one another at various times during our service. Charles is correct in his interpretation that he was not very well liked by his Peace-corps colleagues. However, I believe he is using the "alcohol" story to mask over the true reasons why so many volunteers disliked this guy; namely that he had a very condescending and frankly racist view of the Zambians he was there to help, and was extremely tone-deaf to anyones struggles but his own.
    Case in point; a friend of mine who also served with Charles relates a story of Charles asking him how he knows whether or not his wife (who is Zambian) is a prostitute. Who, in their right mind, would ask such a thing about a mans wife?
    Charles did not finish out his service. He quit before his service was finished because it was too hard. His village really disliked him, and his neighboring volunteers though he was a condescending prick. Funny how he continues to try and spin his failure as a Peace-Corps volunteer for his benefit. Those that served with him know better.
    I have stayed in touch with him until 2012, when Charles posted a comment about this article on social media;
    www.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/opinion/asians-too-smart-for-their-own-good.html?src=me&ref=general
    Charles made a number of comments decrying white privilege, such as this one;
    "I remember a man on a plane complaining to me that his daughter suffered white discrimination when applying to college. He knew this b/c ONE singe school rejected her of all her applications. I wonder if he knows how many Asian Kids are rejected to keep the white numbers up"
    or this one:
    "I'm thinking apathetic uninformed and poorly researched white commentary has a long tradition."
    I found these comments disturbing, because the NYT article was specifically about US universities trying to balance their racial makeup by not admitting folks of asian descent, even though that group in general produces far more qualified students. In order to do so, the universities admit less-qualified white (or other) students. I pointed out the similarities between this problem and that of students of other races on the wrong side of employment and academic affirmative action programs, and sympathized with how this can feel unfair (even if historically justified) to those on the wrong end of the policy.
    Charles took the opportunity of my participating in the conversation to make a bunch of very public assumptions about my character and opinions. He continued to insist that the NYT article did not mean what it very obviously did. When I copied text from the article that showed he was in error, instead of apologizing or making anything right, he instead deleted the post, with his later (private messaged) reasoning that it "embarrassed" him.
    My experience with Charles leads me to believe that he is a small man with a very large ego. A man with a very privileged upbringing (raised by wealth parents in Orange County, Ca), who obtained a "divinity" degree (from Yale!) in order to bolster his public image as a compassionate intellectual, but who's real-world actions and words bely his rottenness. Charles obviously has found a supporting social network within his new persona as a "divinity consultant" or whatever he is calling himself these days. I think this speaks volumes more about the power of religion to blind people to the truth than of any radical change to his worldview or personality.
    Don't be fooled folks.

    • @GRTS_Coach
      @GRTS_Coach 2 года назад

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    • @GRTS_Coach
      @GRTS_Coach 2 года назад

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    • @GRTS_Coach
      @GRTS_Coach 2 года назад

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    • @GRTS_Coach
      @GRTS_Coach 2 года назад

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      @GRTS_Coach 2 года назад

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  • @KelsoBradshaw
    @KelsoBradshaw 3 года назад

    Guy at 42:17 sounds just like Steve Albini

  • @GRTS_Coach
    @GRTS_Coach 2 года назад

    Onooo onk

  • @SamaelHellscrem
    @SamaelHellscrem 2 года назад

    That reminds me of something... some angry austrian guy who took over germany and started labeling shops owned by jews...god what was his name again... 🤔🤨
    Seriously, does nobody at google have any historical awareness...

  • @joeovip
    @joeovip 8 лет назад

    Are those american statics on loneliness for the current generation true? Really? Mmm :/

    • @Lex_Koncord
      @Lex_Koncord 8 лет назад +3

      I would believe it. Many have traded deep and intimate relationships with text messages and online facebook-style interactions...

    • @joeovip
      @joeovip 8 лет назад

      But is it an american thing? a global thing? More people everyday have access to those technologies. I'm from Mexico, an actually it brings me closer to friends and family.. (skype, facetime, whatsapp) or is it a personality thing? Have I been more blessed with social skills? Or young people isolate themselves more than the previous generation? I'm 35

    • @Lex_Koncord
      @Lex_Koncord 8 лет назад +1

      Joe Oviedo
      I think it's partially a US issue more so than others - the "American Dream" has become a materialistic pursuit rather than a pursuit of freedom. We are meant to be independent from government, dependent on friends and family, but many have taken "independence" to mean "selfishness".
      I also think the younger generations are more prone to this behavior than older ones.