Old school vs New school. History of lift gate hydraulic pumps.

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025

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  • @JnkAbstrq
    @JnkAbstrq Год назад +3

    I used to live in Trotwood..
    Much respect just found your channel.

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  Год назад

      Shout out to Trotwood! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel.

  • @Coupeondaytons
    @Coupeondaytons 2 года назад +5

    In 1992 I had a convertible 64 impala. It was a complete rust bucket. My father in law was a body man who helped me body work and paint it. The thing had bondo all over it. Anyway, I had the hydraulics installed at speaker works in Hialeah fl. Speaker works was red's hydraulics before it was officially red's hydraulics. I also bought my first set of Dayton wire wheels from them used. They took the rims off of the " flamingo " hopper. 4 pump 8 batteries. I was 17 years old and it was the time of my life. Still lowriding today at 48. Only difference now is I build my own stuff.
    Enjoy your content man. Good stuff keep it up and good luck with the channel

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  2 года назад +2

      Thank you bro!! I appreciate the kind words. Man.. a 64 on juice at 17! 🥶! Again, thanks for watching. Take care bro 👊🏻👊🏻

  • @anthonymorales3655
    @anthonymorales3655 Месяц назад

    I want to learn more abt aircraft and stuff, I’m so grateful for videos like this because there’s not a lot of information on older hydraulic history. Pls keep it up

  • @evanpimental
    @evanpimental Год назад +4

    I appreciate this video. I love going into the history of lowriders.
    I can COMPLETELY relate to you, from ahe 14-19, I ate, drank and slept lowriders. Now I'm 32 and for the last 2 years I've had a massive itch.
    I'm proud of the 60s-90s hydraulic companies because they were constantly innovating. I have become disenfranchised with the modern hydraulic companies. There hasn't been any game changing products to hit the market and everyone sells the same products.
    I am in the process of launching my own line of hydraulic products. I've actually already built a few prototype pumps. They should be about 4 times more powerful than what is currently available. I'm also developing a dump that will operate just like an adex, but will be a fraction of the cost. It will not be an adex clone it will just perform better than an adex for around $400. I just am figuring out what kinds of parts I would want, and figure other people must also want them. I'm still about a year away. Here's the deal, up until this point, every hydraulic pump in a lowrider was engineered for going in a lowrider. They were engineered for aircrafts and lift gates. Same with dumps, delta makes industrial cartridge style solenoid valves. Adexes, as bad ass as they are, they were built years before lowriding was a thing, they were made for aircraft. I am designing products from the ground up that are built for 1 single purpose, LOWRIDING without compromises.

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  Год назад +1

      Thank you for watching. I appreciate the support. Keep us updated on your venture. Sounds badass!

    • @evanpimental
      @evanpimental Год назад +2

      @@gemcitywelding7234 Thanks. Be on the look out for Airborne Hydraulics.
      My motors have dual sets of brushes internal fans and massive ventilation and I got different size motors, my mack daddy motor make close to 10hp and powers a #16-#17 pump head. The pump and the gear are massive. It's kind of like an aircraft pump as opposed to a modern hydraulic, by which I mean it requires an external reservoir. I didn't like how modern lowrider lift gate pumps have a small 1/4" pressure port hole feeing into the block, some blocks are 3/4-1" it makes no sense to feed a 1" pressure port on the block from a small little hole in the pump head. Seems like a choke point. So my pumps have a 1" inlet and 3/4" outlet. If there weren't gears in there you could stick your finger straight through the gear. No choke point.
      I'm building a 96 Town Car as test vehicle and a rolling advertisement. I'll probably make a video covering the build when I start on it.

    • @basedorthobrofren
      @basedorthobrofren Год назад

      ​@@evanpimental Are you on Instagram or FB? Most of the lowriding community is there

  • @tarbeau8561
    @tarbeau8561 Год назад +1

    NYR, lol yes I watch all of your videos to the end. You have some great content on here. I'd like to get another G body, but still looking. And as far as the hydraulics, you blew my mind when I saw those old school blocks / motors / dumps. I wish I had all of the sets I got rid of. Or chunked for new setups. I ran Red's hydraulics, then I believe CCE In my Caprice. Been a long time to try and remember all that. I do have a steel block from the 70's or 80's. And Fenner motors, black and gold. Still have my external Delta dumps for hopping. And all this time I thought I was the only one holding onto the old school stuff when I started buying it up as I could. I miss those days brother. Thanks again for jolting me back to the present lol. And don't stop with the end of the video stuff. Keep up the great work sir, I'm trying to catch up on your videos, peace

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  Год назад +1

      That’s awesome bro. I’m just trying to share the knowledge with anyone that’s willing to listen. Thanks for the support and following the channel. Thanks you 👊🏻👊🏻

  • @lgh1157
    @lgh1157 Год назад +1

    I have a 63 Galaxie on air ride, .. . gonna swap to the juice , this video was helpful, thank you

  • @lonestarlows
    @lonestarlows 2 года назад +5

    I remember when I got my first 100 subs I was surprised people were watching my poor quality and amateur edited videos then I got 1000. About 2 yrs later. It's really hard to grow a channel that is geared towards lowriding. It's just a very small niche. My first setup was a reds 2 pumper with the clear motor end caps. And it had 1/4 inch plumbing with the weenie slow downs built into the dumps what a terrible design. But it worked. I used to go thru dump cartridges all the time. I've learned so much since them days and spent way to much money along the way

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  2 года назад

      You’re 100% correct. But I’m thankful people watch the videos. I’m trying to get better at the production side of things. Like Cletus McFarland said, “ everyone wants to be a RUclipsr until it’s time to edit” I remember those clear caps!!! I thought they were so trick. Ahh the good old days. 👊🏻

  • @leechristo6263
    @leechristo6263 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video bro!

  • @supergreasyhead
    @supergreasyhead 2 года назад +1

    1k Subs Brotha!!! Congratulations man, I’m currently on this video just started it, started from the first vid you made.

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  2 года назад

      Thanks bro!!! Stay tuned, 1,000 giveaway coming soon. 👊🏻👊🏻

  • @justinarellano6650
    @justinarellano6650 2 года назад +1

    Got a 72 caprice just like you that's my dream car still got a long way to go love watching your videos brotha keep going checking from new mexico

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  2 года назад +1

      Thanks brother!!! From Dayton to New Mexico baby! 👊🏻👊🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @t.6247
    @t.6247 Год назад +1

    I’ve watched the video to the end. I like he “Speak On It” For me, I got the my 64 rewired with the American Autowire kit and saving up for the PitBull rear end and Dakota Digital dash.

  • @Ty-yk2iv
    @Ty-yk2iv 2 года назад +2

    So you must be talking about disco Dean I never would have guessed he was a lowrider it makes sense his pink Cadillac race car has a lowrider style paint job awsome ! Also good video on your part!

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  2 года назад

      Lol yep he’s a Lowrider. He’s a great guy. Thanks for watching! 👊🏻

  • @abeljr3494
    @abeljr3494 2 года назад +1

    Great video!!! 😎 👊

  • @robpanel
    @robpanel 4 месяца назад +1

    i miss the fairground cruisefests. i couldnt follow it all the time when it went up north. all 4 pumps that i had back then but never were installed were the 2 pump. not sure if it was fenner stone. i do remember back in the day when lowrider mag had the porkys hydraulics ads they had a kit where the dumps were built into the block.

  • @heavychevy6314
    @heavychevy6314 2 года назад +1

    I think I have the same cce pumps black with the Crome and yellow sticker on tank in my storage man throw back pumps awesome content man 👍keep it coming

  • @joefromWY
    @joefromWY 2 года назад +1

    Good info, mr impala also speaks on the history of hydraulics in one of his episodes.

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  2 года назад +1

      Hey Joe,
      Would you happen to have a link to his channel or episodes? Thanks for watching!

    • @joefromWY
      @joefromWY 2 года назад +2

      @@gemcitywelding7234 I don't think youtube allows link or they hide them so the title is (KICKING IT WITH KILOZ EPISODE 8 WITH MISTER IMPALA Kiloz Media ) Kilo Media interviewed him and he to seems very knowledgeable on the history too. Mr Impala was also on king of chevys but they didn't talk a whole lot on history of hydraulics. Oh yeah Kilo Media is from ohio and pretty sure ur going to enjoy his channel cause his content is hydraulic parts.
      s.

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  2 года назад +1

      @@joefromWY right on! I’ll check it out. Thank you 👊🏻👊🏻

  • @codygeary5092
    @codygeary5092 Год назад +1

    Man I actually got 4 fenner stones that were given to me. I’m about to put on my 93 s10. Need to go through them, but unsure of where I can find the proper o rings/seals. Any suggestions?
    Also very cool that you were around when dean karns competed, my dad told me stories of him as well as all the scrub city days.

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  Год назад

      Hey bro, look up a company called “Primo seals” they should be able to help you out. Also contact Fenner direct. They are still in business. Deans are great guy. Thanks for watching the video 👊🏻

  • @WS21310
    @WS21310 Год назад +1

    That’s the only ford I’m missing in my fords 70’s collection

  • @earlmohme9433
    @earlmohme9433 2 года назад +3

    Porkys hydraulics used to be in rockford Illinois with the Fenner stone pumps

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  2 года назад

      That’s right! Totally slipped my brain 🤣

    • @BeLowCreations
      @BeLowCreations 2 года назад

      Ralph has came to be quite active on Facebook lately too.

  • @RALPHD099
    @RALPHD099 Год назад +1

    heck yeah, good stuff…

  • @dominicgarcia85
    @dominicgarcia85 Месяц назад

    If I lived closer and knew of you when you were posting I would offer to sell you my pumps/motors working old school but not the first iteration lol could hop but I used to just do basic shhh up down side side type stuff but they are so heavy shipping would be beast mode they can’t be worth that much to pay for shipping and see any type of return but it is what it is

  • @manuelescareno7031
    @manuelescareno7031 2 года назад +1

    Great video.

  • @mariotrejo8033
    @mariotrejo8033 Год назад +1

    I just picked up 2 fenner pumps with delta dumps for @$100 not to sure yet if they work any suggestions what tonlook out for .

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  Год назад

      Hey bro, great question! Early fennerstone pumps use a very specific type of gasket inside the pump head, it’s almost like a Teflon seal. Also pull the tanks off and see if they have magnets on the inside of the tanks. Magnets are there to catch metal shavings and prevent them from going and recirculating back into the pump head. Before putting any pump into service especially one that is as old as a Fenner pump make sure that if it’s running an external check valve that it’s going in the correct direction. Some thinners have internal check valves. Some have been modified to accept an external check valve. Those are just a few of the things that I would look for if it was me personally. Congrats on your new purchases. Best of luck.

  • @drenolov
    @drenolov Год назад +1

    I'm working on a 84 LeSabre out of Dayton well my question is on reinforcing the frame do I wrap the engine belly all the way I have the engine out now And do I use 3/16 all over it and how far should I extend my a arms friends and mentors welcome

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  Год назад +1

      Great question! My honest answer is it would depend on what your plans are with the car. Is it strictly a lay n play street car or do you have plans to hop the car? 3/16 is always recommended, but it’s not uncommon to see 1/8 to mold out the framework. On the arms, I would suggest 1” to 1 1/2”. Anymore than that and you could run into steering issues. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching the show.

    • @drenolov
      @drenolov Год назад

      Lay and play mostly but I'd like to hop just for fun now and then nothing crazy

  • @humbertohuizar1375
    @humbertohuizar1375 Год назад +1

    Watermen dumps are another ideal dumps back in the day those are very hard to find

  • @dominicgarcia85
    @dominicgarcia85 Месяц назад

    Could a hydrolic electric motor be used as a generator? I ain’t electrically in the know lol but my old 74 lemans just rusting away and the pumps and motors are all good still trying to find a new life cuz I’ll never see the bands i put into them I’d sell but wouldn’t know we’re to start thanks in advance

    • @dominicgarcia85
      @dominicgarcia85 Месяц назад

      I could check to see if any local shops in burque would want some oldy school pumps but idk

  • @rodscott6154
    @rodscott6154 Год назад +1

    Thanks

  • @natemurphy4367
    @natemurphy4367 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have a 85 Buick regal with cce pumps 1990s build I purchased from a friend rebuilding the car

  • @lukemeyer3023
    @lukemeyer3023 2 года назад +1

    I’ve got 3 Wicked brand pumps that have steel gear fenner stone pump heads in them.

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  2 года назад

      That’s awesome! I’ve never heard of Wicked Hydraulics. Too cool.

  • @emilioescalante4134
    @emilioescalante4134 Год назад

    Can you do footage of Cali Swangin Vol.4 Cali Swangin Vol.5 And Truucha Vol.6 please Billy? upload on RUclips thanks 🙏 😊

  • @emilioescalante4134
    @emilioescalante4134 Год назад

    I have my lowrider videos collection on DVD & VHS

  • @emilioescalante4134
    @emilioescalante4134 Год назад +1

    You have old Lowrider DVD’s & VHS in the basement

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  Год назад

      Sure do!

    • @emilioescalante4134
      @emilioescalante4134 Год назад

      You have Cali Swangin Vol.4 VHS
      Cali Swangin Vol.5 VHS
      Lowrider Magazine The History Of Hydraulics VHS
      Hoppin' & Scrapin' VHS
      Hoppin' & Truckin' VHS
      Truucha Best Of The Best Vol.6 VHS
      Truucha The Sky’s The Limit Vol.11 DVD
      And O.G. Rider Presents LowRider Livin' Low DVD

  • @davidprokell7664
    @davidprokell7664 2 года назад +2

    Porky’s used fenner stone heads.

  • @jamesleake6823
    @jamesleake6823 Год назад +1

    Look up a guy name Pat Burke he's the one that worked for Jay Foley at ScrubCity building his cars and hitting the switches.

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  Год назад

      Yes sir, I know Pat from wayyyy back. He’s a legend in the car dance history.

  • @cowboycandyvending1574
    @cowboycandyvending1574 Год назад +1

    😊

  • @RB-wq3er
    @RB-wq3er 6 месяцев назад +1

    I have the first pump ...the lift gate I haven't broke it down yet ...I bought 5 old school pumps with hydrodire #8 dumps if anyone wants the old gate pump let me know

    • @gemcitywelding7234
      @gemcitywelding7234  6 месяцев назад

      I might be interested in the pump. How much are you asking for it?