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Hi Steven, I m 12 years old and I discovered your podcasts thanks to my mom . I watch your videos every week and I m so grateful . My dream is to do my next year internship at your office . You are my source of inspiration and hope to meet you one day . Loads of love from Nice!
You keep it up and there is a path to 1billion dollars. Great early start my friend! Also stay humble and spiritual as success starts rolling in ok👍🏼⚡😎
1. Self-Regulation: Regular reflection on strengths and weaknesses, setting goals, monitoring progress, and evaluating results. This leads to continuous improvement. 2. Experimentation and Risk: Taking calculated risks and running experiments to push beyond comfort zones, leading to growth. 3. Avoid Distractions: Starting the day without email or notifications helps maintain focus and reduces stress. 4. Balance Between Exploration and Exploitation: Combine learning new skills with deepening existing knowledge. 5. Minimize Distractions: Limit distractions, including background music, to maximize cognitive performance.
I have a genuine question - how do you watch a 2 hr video especially on Monday morning? I never able to watch more than 20 mins then the life/family/work kicks in.
I seriously learned so much about myself in this interview. I am a generalist who has suffered under poor managers. I now work on a contract basis and am much happier setting my own boundaries and achieving results by doing things my way.
17:30 the "overlapping" of skills is what has worked extremely well for me. I'm in my position in work because I did precisely that. I am a software engineer in a lead position. I'm not the best engineer in the team, and while I'm pretty decent at what I do there, it's the combination with my communication skills and empathy that made me uniquely suited for the position within the company.
Steven, This episode was the perfect one to help your audience learn how to better understand, remember and put into practice all the gems of knowledge your guests shower us with! I’m a primary school music teacher and so my no 1 goal each day at work is to help my students learn better by helping them understand , practice, use and retain skills and information. To help myself personally, when I now listen to your podcasts, I actually slow the playback speed down to 75%, and when I hear something interesting and relevant to me, I stop the video and write it down in MY actual DIARY of a CEO notebook! I also use sticky notes all over my house to help remember the most important ideas. Because like you said, you hear something awesome but then quickly forget it a day later.
One reason for the 7 million, Steve, is that the discussion isn’t bogged down with ads and sponsor promos, which are unfortunately creeping in more and more 😢 It makes it hard for us to focus. So, please keep the podcast ad-free!
The RUclips ad-free subscription changed my life. You never have to be bombarded with another ad. I consider it a mental health expense. It’s literally the best investment I’ve made for myself. Much better than any other platform 💯
@@nik.kinetikentertainment2298 And that's why they did it. To earn so much ekstra cash. Before all those adds every platform was FREE. Boycut things that wants you to pay for an "ekstra" service you got before...
At 58:56 you guys discuss the distracting effect of listening to music while working. I've heard this before, however, as someone with ADHD, I've also found that certain types of noise during certain types of tasks can help me focus. For example, when writing, I can listen to music that is wordless with an irregular tempo. I can listen to music with words and an irregular or regular tempo when designing something visual. Sometimes I need an uninterrupted driving beat to keep me focused for hours at a time, but sometimes that makes me sleepy. Sometimes I need to listen to white noise, like the sound of rain or coffee shop ambiance, for sustained focus. I've definitely also enjoyed zero music/noise at times, too. Why do different things work at different times?
Same here, depending on what I am doing, especially if it is something I do not feel like doing, listening to music helps me focus, this even includes singing along. Sometimes the brain has to multitask to task at all. haha
I may need to get diagnosed. I cant focus with dead silence unless its something urgent. I think learning sign languaage helps me regulate... what will i be like if i loose my sign language job...? I cant go back to soul crushing work anymore
I never do commenting on videos. But I can't imagine that it has taken me 3-4 hours of watching and taking notes on this episode. Thanks to Stephen for introducing David, whose breadth of knowledge has really amazed me. My main takeaway is having self-regulatory cycle to learn from experiences and doing this explicitly using journaling.
At the end of a ZOE interview, the moderator does a review of the main concepts presented (to the best of his understanding) and asks the person being interveiwed to make corrections or add clarifications to the moderator's understanding. It's an instant summary of the notes taken during the interveiw. I find these reviews to be helpful in solidifying my new knowledge.
Wow. This is one I need to rewatched over and over. This was soooo dense with insights and Golden info nuggets. Never heard of David Epstein before but am a huge fan now.
Hi Steven, Good afternoon from Brisbane Queensland Australia. Happy to be one of the 7M + 🎉 Inspired by you podcasts and interviews. Yeah, I was one of the random selected 3 Raffle winners in June. 😊 🎉
Great podcast, just one note: given most of us do not have support teams, assistants etc., to liase with on in order to improve productivty, achieving goals etc., i think sometimes the content here veered a little more than usual towards responding to the biographical or specific contexts of Steven, this lessens applicability to the rest of us a little...
10.000 hours is not a lie its a misqoute, the man who invented it never meant you can become an expert in something by just doing it mindlessly for 10.000 hours. You have to keep using those hours progressing
Regarding improving retention of new information, I was taught the following: "Repetition is the mother of retention." and "When you learn something new that you want to remember, share it with 3 people and that will help cement it to your memory." No guarantees with these...but they have helped me immensely.
I can relate to what David is saying, working from home listening to podcasts and music checking emails, having too much coffee, sugar, multitasking can be very overwhelming.
You guys just changed my life into a better and brighter one. You have no idea how great is the job you are doing on this podcast. Thank you so so much!❤
Wow, you guys finally solved the microphone problem. I remember the podcast you did where you and the guest talked about problem solving and you mentioned that you and the crew never thought about solving the microphone problem. This podcast teaches me alot, and today i've learnt that having a problem solving mindset makes a difference. Nice one!
I’m so glad that someone finally went into details (scientifically/nerdy) on long term impact and short term goals😭🙏🏻 Thank you for your knowledge David
I’m not surprised toggling between tasks increases stress. I’m a stay at home mom, and trying to do anything with my three year old around can make me stressed just for the fact that I’m having to stop and start any given task every two minutes. Doesn’t matter what task it is, it makes it stressful.
This is an amazing interview. I love the discussion on the difference between Tiger Woods and other athletes' development paths. If I understand correctly, our son's fencing coach ended up with a 50 year old making it to nationals after only 3 years. It sounds like he just signed up with his son because the coach would give you 50% off a second family member's monthly fees and the adults practiced with the advanced teens, and if you have to stay there anyways because you have a long commute you might as well get some exercise. Also, that fencing coach encouraged parents to have their kids in other sports because it was helpful to improving in fencing (possibly some of that is exercising different muscles from fencing which is very imbalanced).
Hi Steve, I'm Linet from Kenya. Always tuned in for these very eye-opening conversations every Monday and Thursday. What I like most about you and your guests is how disruptive you guys are- a catalytic trait to strive and out-do oneself in the 21st century, which is characterized by frequent unprecedented situations. I'm also reminded of one of your five entrepreneurial lessons tackled in the "Behind the diary" channel. That normal is ignored, but absurdity sells 😊 Challenged in a good way, I'm grateful and will keep coming back for more, God willing, till I become and serve my purpose in my generation, and keep running for the good cause, Steven👏
Really love the pod and thank you for all the wonderful conversations you have. On the point of remembering things, this is the amazing things that good teachers do every day to support students with their learning (cognitive load theory, principles of instruction). It’s incredible to think about learning and thinking, and we often lose, or more pertinently don’t practise, these skills once out of an educational setting.
David's response about AI was really great. "If that means my books dont sell as well, but i get to learn 10x as much science that's a tradeoff im definitely willing to make"
Thank you so much for this episode. It's exactly what I didn't know I needed. It's an HR specialist, the last few weeks I have been struggling to figure out if I am truly needed. My colleagues and former co-workers all have these really good specializations and I feel like I'm all over the place. I've had the privilege to learn different facets of things that aren't necessarily HR with their connected like systems within HR like things that connect to the specialized thing. Sometimes I feel like those aren't needed so many people want you to be a recruiter or to be really good at benefits are really good at leave or really good at relations and I feel like I know about all of those things in different ways but not enough to be an expert so do I fit anywhere. This is definitely an episode I'll have to watch again. I've definitely spent a couple of weeks googling what is the point of being a generalist Is it better to be a generalist or is it better to be a specialist. I often wonder if I just wonder around with a backpack full of random knowledge but it's always useful Like I'm MacGyver lol I'll also be reading the books. This is awesome. Literally perfect timing for me.
Thanks for a wonderful chat lads. Hahahaha Steven, every dad's dream when they have a child. So was mine until my twin boys turned 10 yrs. They said we don't like football anymore as they found motor racing more fun. Now, at 15, they love all kinds of sports from football, table tennis, swimming, badminton and racing and I respect their decision.
I'm doing all those things now and i wouldn't say im struggling, a partner who works too does help but im the main breadwinner. It's difficult & challenging but worth it and doable.
same. I was always worried about my future since I really don't know what I like. started from schools, when people asked me what subject I like the most, I would say A,B,C,D till I almost mentioned all. Then now in my 20s I feel like I am not like others, so I kept wondering whether or not I can be good at something. Then last month, when I read "Range" it was so comforting, I fee like being told that "it's just not the time yet, you'll get there, and better than you can ever imagine"
Yea, also the difficulty of choosing - one subject, one career over others...😢 But eventually you do have to choose - and choose wisely - pay attention to yourself, your likes, what you enjoy doing. But even if you make a mistake, it's ok - you will learn smth about yourself and that will bring you closer to your ('wiser') future self - and eventually you will get there - one step at a time 😊 and don't forget to enjoy the process❤
If you do 10 000 hours you may be good at something. Whether you are a master in it depends (relatively spoken) on the competition. I never understood the argument with starting your day 05 o'clock in the morning. There are 24 hours a day, and whether you put in the work early or late doesn't matter as long as you get it done. The only hours you are controlled by the clock is the hours you are expected to be available for others (customers, vendors and so on). If it suits you better to work late in the evening instead of early in the morning, go for it. You will be just as productive that way.
The big difference I find between getting work done in the morning versus the evening is that when I work late in the evening (and/or into the night) it disrupts my sleep cycle and I wake up the next day feeling really tired and mentally groggy. If I go to bed early (9-10pm) and wake up early (5-6:30am), I feel so much better and my health improves. In the long run, waking up early and doing the work in the morning contributes to better physical, mental and emotional health (for me at least), which in turn helps me become more and more productive.
@@nilnil7325 There are a couple other DOAC episodes where they talk about sleep cycles and that some people are naturally morning people and some people are naturally night hours. Best advice - Know thyself
Following the line of reasoning that sleep is important and that one sleeps to recharge/recover, one can also infer that as the day progresses, one’s cognitive bandwidth decreases. In other words, it would be illogical to assert, in most cases, that one’s cognitive ability is equally as receptive after waking up vs after a full day. It stands to reason, then, that allocating the morning time for learning likely provides the most optimal conditions. Interestingly enough, there are people that say they “work better at night” but never research the contributors. I suspect that they like working at night for the same reasons others like to work early morning (while it is still night)…less distractions.
@@ChrisESil : Yes, of course ... late at night and early in the morning (depending on what you prefer) is usually a time of less distractions and disturbance in general. Some of our hours we are locked to being available to other people. If your customers expect to reach you between 08 - 16, well then that is the hours you need to be available for them. But if you for example are writing code for a piece of software, it doesn't matter if you do that work early or late, as long as it suits your internal clock. My point is that I am not buying this mantra that you are less productive if you don't start your day very early. You have 24 hours available, and 8 of those hours you are asleep. The other 16 hours and what you use them on is a matter of prioritizing.
How do “serial innovators” stand out to businesses or describe themselves? I have never had a term for myself or how I operate but this captures it perfectly. When I work with or for a business I can’t help but see and share where issues are or the actions to take to improve them. To the open minded few that trusted me to help them the results were massive. How do I describe what I do? My experience is based in actual experience and observation not text books. I couldn’t decide what I wanted to be so I tried EVERYTHING. Marketing, branding, design, consulting, strategy, health and safety, training. Everyone wants an expert on paper, what if there is no certificate for the thing you mastered?
I did NOT notice the missing microphones until you mentioned it. But I did notice in the intro you allowed us to hear a few nuggets and only cut off the guest for the last two answers, and I appreciated that!
this episode really challenges some of the conventional wisdom we've all been taught! David Epstein's insights about the 10,000-hour rule being a myth and the impact of our morning habits are eye-opening. It's fascinating to hear how being a generalist can actually be more beneficial than becoming hyper-specialized. Definitely made me rethink how I approach my daily routine and long-term goals. Great interview, Steve!
Lol, know it’s a joke but for those who want the bit more in there: Time block your working day into sessions where you work on only one specific task during each designated block, with notifications and distractions as low as you can get away with, no je reason for this because switching between tasks causes your brain to need to switch running it’s previous task whilst also adopting the rules of new tasks, so if you switch constantly between tasks in a work session you’re way way more unproductive than by focusing purely on one thing. Make sure to not over time block your tasks, give yourself leeway and forgiveness in length of sessions and breaks between tasks and stuff. Also make sure that you identify the one thing that you want to achieve in the day that’s most important for you to get done and set aside time ti complete it, and of course commit to carrying out the task in that time no matter how much you may not like it Music is innately varyingly disruptive but it can also be motivating. It takes up brain space but the motivation and calming effect can be beneficial. Listening to non-novel music is less disruptive on average due to familiarity. Lyrical music can be problematic and simple repetitive instrumental music is on average much better due to no novelty. But your music should be quiet nonetheless to take up less brain space. Highly cognitively demanding tasks are much more disrupted by music than simple ones, if you’re bouncing around a lot of ideas it’s probably better to not listen to anything
There's an amazing Coursera course called "Learning how to Learn" by Deep Teaching Solutions, and it covers a lot of the ideas here in more detail, including on how they work on a biological level. It goes all the way from deliverate practice and the varying types of learning (flash cards, etc), to understanding memory and even utilising a Memory Palace. Fundamentally shifted how I think about learning, and I loved the whole thing, as the instructor clearly loves what she does. So, while I didn't gain a huge amount from this conversation (still fun), it's reinforced that what I've learned is on the right track, so I appreciated it!
theres a video by Andrew Huberman called "optimal protocols for studying & learning" on youtube. you would gain a lot from that too since there is a lot of common ideas
7mil!!!! Dtswusssuuupp!! So much thanks to you, Bartlett, All your staff, guests + all your interviews of unfiltered and unguarded perspective, experience + personal knowledge (That is so difficult to encounter online)
This girl once told me that she had never failed anything she tried so she looked at failure as something negative and then I told her, the things that I failed first are the things that I know best. I was trying to show her that failure had a power she could not see, since to her mind she had not failed anything.
Love this. Reflection! Very clear message! So many examples to back up what he is saying. Truth. Looks for factors that others just ignore. We all need to do the research for ourselves to find the truth. This video and Evy has been the best so far.
Every show that you do makes me think in such a deeper way. You are such a brilliant yet normal guy that it really keeps me interested and listening. Keep up the great work!
Another benefit of music is that it's like a safety net for your attention, you still stay in your current task context even if you get unfocused. We all get pangs of inattention or boredom that trigger us to switch tabs to chat/slack/teams, or quickly look at another task or browser tab. But if that moment of inattention is captured by the music then it's not as hard to get back on task. At least in my experience.
For distraction free music, video game soundtracks are designed to be less distracting than regular music. They contain fewer musical movements, no lyrics, and often understated instrumentation. They're designed to be a backing track to an experience that could last hours, so they try to avoid repeating patterns that will become annoying or attention grabbing as well.
If you are ever in need of advice regarding DJ'ing or any of the technique's involved. (or happen to play in Australia) feel free to contact me. I am more than happy to help in any way I can. Thankyou for an another amazing episode.✌️
I didn't really identify a viable career path until my late 20's, and I was in my mid 30's by the time it started to help me live the life that I wanted. I could have plodded along going nowhere, but i reached a place where i needed to push myself. Being in a relationship was a major catalyst for that, it gave me that sense of purpose. Everyone's circumstances are different, and for me it couldn't have happened any other way.
Hi Steven I have read your book The Diary of CEO. It was very impressive. I have planned to make a short videos of each chapter of your book where in the start of every video I will show your book.I want more people to read it. This will be my small contribution as a reader of your book. Thanks Steven
Ya, I experience the point where he talks about on 58 mins in to 61 mins plus. The problem is that sometimes I'm getting frustrated with learning and a bit of music might help, but on the other hand, the music takes away both frustration and focus. Even switching on and off the music takes a little focus away and distracts me.
THIS is what I needed to hear this morning. Lots of aha moments. Also hope if you have a daughter she may also be encouraged to kick a ball.....Congratulations on 7 million subscribers 😀
Upbeat music has a different effect vs more calm music. With upbeat music, the higher the decibels the harder it is to focus whereas with calmer music there is no statistical change in focus based on volume. This may change depending on what your definition of upbeat music is
This episode goes deep in the right productivity advices. How many of you would be happy if you have the detailed notes of the podcast so that after listening this podcast you can have and read the important stuff in 10 mins anytime you want. Let me know your response.
What if for children at young age, how do we as parents know which kind of sports / hobbies are the right one for them? How long do we keep them exposing and trying out? What are the clue or hint to look out for?
I’m absolutely captivated by this episode. Having spent so much time learning independently, I’ve developed my own terminology for the process. For example, I refer to "debugging your own thinking," which aligns closely with the idea of "self-regulated learning." The insights from this episode will help me deepen my self-understanding with greater efficiency. On the topic of AGI, I fully agree with David. It’s clear that we don’t yet grasp why LLMs are so powerful at encoding human knowledge. But with the growing financial focus on Generative AI, we might eventually uncover the mechanisms behind it and learn to encode knowledge more effectively. Moreover, I believe that our understanding of how to support super AI is still in its infancy, making fears of it premature. The analogy is like fearing that a cockroach will learn to take over the Earth and develop the brain capacity to do so. Is the human brain-and its digital approximation-able to be 1000x smarter? Knowing all disciplines at an expert level is not 1000x smarter; knowing how to conceptualize and think in the fifth dimension (and higher) might be.
I‘ve been looking for a pic of your new Mic setup, sounds good! Which Mic did you opt for? A lot of people would pull out a shotgun without realising mega directional mics have more pickup in the rear. I can hear a bit or room, but it seems well controlled… good acoustics maybe? If your setting mic height by a locked off wide shot, you could always layer a shot without the mics to achieve an even tighter mic placement… just don’t nudge the camera 😬 Probably more risk/faff than it’s worth… as I said it sounds plenty good 😊
I really wonder (and perhaps worry) how much of our lives becomes shaped off of incorrect conclusions that everyone accepts as "common sense / knowledge" such as 10,000 hours = a master. It really gives me pause on what other things are we treating as correct but we don't even realize how wrong we really are. Are we collectively shutting down differing perspectives and opinions simply because "that's how it's always been done" "everyone knows this to be true"?
I knew something sounded different. I initially thought Steven was sick, but he looked well. Completely unaware of the nonexistent microphone, it only registered once he mentioned it.
My take on this is…learn problem solving skills not just knowledge and processes. As Jim Rohan said the reward for becoming a millionaire isn’t the money, but the skills you acquire along the way. Also someone who can put their phone in airplane mode at night doesn’t have elderly sick parents.
Question is: before 12 years old, isn't there a ton of basic education and knowledge that one needs to learn before even thinking of making a company? Literally one of the main points of this interview is to try and learn a lot of things before selecting one.
So, to sum up this conversation, we need to go back to the original form of the adage "It is better to be a jack of all trades than a master of one" (This used to be a compliment.) When specialization became a wanted commodity, the adage changed to a derogatory slander against generalists and we still use it today. "Jack of all trades, master of none".
Jack of all trades, master of some... Anyone who says "master of none" is attempting to belittle the generalist. Probably because they're unhappy that they've pigeonholed themselves into a niche in which they've become 'stuck'
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Hi Steven,
I m 12 years old and I discovered your podcasts thanks to my mom .
I watch your videos every week and I m so grateful . My dream is to do my next year internship at your office . You are my source of inspiration and hope to meet you one day . Loads of love from Nice!
Did you say you are 12
You keep it up and there is a path to 1billion dollars. Great early start my friend! Also stay humble and spiritual as success starts rolling in ok👍🏼⚡😎
@@phindandabula6010yes. 12 and wants an internship. But doesn’t know really anything about anything
@@phindandabula6010 better than most kids nowadays
@@crbradbury8282Solid 🔥
1. Self-Regulation: Regular reflection on strengths and weaknesses, setting goals, monitoring progress, and evaluating results. This leads to continuous improvement.
2. Experimentation and Risk: Taking calculated risks and running experiments to push beyond comfort zones, leading to growth.
3. Avoid Distractions: Starting the day without email or notifications helps maintain focus and reduces stress.
4. Balance Between Exploration and Exploitation: Combine learning new skills with deepening existing knowledge.
5. Minimize Distractions: Limit distractions, including background music, to maximize cognitive performance.
Nothing beats a new diary of a Ceo vid and a cup of coffee on a Monday morning!!!
You have said it All....
I have a genuine question - how do you watch a 2 hr video especially on Monday morning? I never able to watch more than 20 mins then the life/family/work kicks in.
Coffee in the Morning is bad 😋
You drink coffee for 2 hours? Get a life.
What a vibe 🤤 #perfectmorning
I seriously learned so much about myself in this interview. I am a generalist who has suffered under poor managers. I now work on a contract basis and am much happier setting my own boundaries and achieving results by doing things my way.
17:30 the "overlapping" of skills is what has worked extremely well for me. I'm in my position in work because I did precisely that. I am a software engineer in a lead position. I'm not the best engineer in the team, and while I'm pretty decent at what I do there, it's the combination with my communication skills and empathy that made me uniquely suited for the position within the company.
"T-Shaped" employees are super valuable, where you have a general focus, but at least 2 other skills that amplify your primary skill.
Steven, This episode was the perfect one to help your audience learn how to better understand, remember and put into practice all the gems of knowledge your guests shower us with! I’m a primary school music teacher and so my no 1 goal each day at work is to help my students learn better by helping them understand , practice, use and retain skills and information. To help myself personally, when I now listen to your podcasts, I actually slow the playback speed down to 75%, and when I hear something interesting and relevant to me, I stop the video and write it down in MY actual DIARY of a CEO notebook! I also use sticky notes all over my house to help remember the most important ideas. Because like you said, you hear something awesome but then quickly forget it a day later.
What a great advice
One reason for the 7 million, Steve, is that the discussion isn’t bogged down with ads and sponsor promos, which are unfortunately creeping in more and more 😢 It makes it hard for us to focus. So, please keep the podcast ad-free!
The RUclips ad-free subscription changed my life. You never have to be bombarded with another ad.
I consider it a mental health expense. It’s literally the best investment I’ve made for myself. Much better than any other platform 💯
@@nik.kinetikentertainment2298same! I canceled multiple other subscriptions bc now I spend the majority of my entertainment/learning time on RUclips
@@nik.kinetikentertainment2298 And that's why they did it. To earn so much ekstra cash. Before all those adds every platform was FREE. Boycut things that wants you to pay for an "ekstra" service you got before...
Exactly. Pay for the Premium account.
He still needs to make money though
UNLEARNING a lot of stuff, listening to DOAC and the amazing guests he brings on here! Mindblown!🤯
At 58:56 you guys discuss the distracting effect of listening to music while working. I've heard this before, however, as someone with ADHD, I've also found that certain types of noise during certain types of tasks can help me focus. For example, when writing, I can listen to music that is wordless with an irregular tempo. I can listen to music with words and an irregular or regular tempo when designing something visual. Sometimes I need an uninterrupted driving beat to keep me focused for hours at a time, but sometimes that makes me sleepy. Sometimes I need to listen to white noise, like the sound of rain or coffee shop ambiance, for sustained focus. I've definitely also enjoyed zero music/noise at times, too. Why do different things work at different times?
I'm Blue, Particularly the chorus, got me through my MA
Same here, depending on what I am doing, especially if it is something I do not feel like doing, listening to music helps me focus, this even includes singing along. Sometimes the brain has to multitask to task at all. haha
Same for me, except I prefer ASMR videos. I need just a hint of the right auditory stimulation, and I can work for hours.
I may need to get diagnosed. I cant focus with dead silence unless its something urgent. I think learning sign languaage helps me regulate... what will i be like if i loose my sign language job...? I cant go back to soul crushing work anymore
Yep, people too often forget that EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT!! Just because someone is an expert on something doesn’t mean they’re always correct.
I never do commenting on videos. But I can't imagine that it has taken me 3-4 hours of watching and taking notes on this episode. Thanks to Stephen for introducing David, whose breadth of knowledge has really amazed me.
My main takeaway is having self-regulatory cycle to learn from experiences and doing this explicitly using journaling.
this episode has me coming back, so i decided to sit down and write down some notes finally. thank you for this conversation!
At the end of a ZOE interview, the moderator does a review of the main concepts presented (to the best of his understanding) and asks the person being interveiwed to make corrections or add clarifications to the moderator's understanding. It's an instant summary of the notes taken during the interveiw. I find these reviews to be helpful in solidifying my new knowledge.
Wow. This is one I need to rewatched over and over. This was soooo dense with insights and Golden info nuggets. Never heard of David Epstein before but am a huge fan now.
Hi Steven,
Good afternoon from Brisbane Queensland Australia. Happy to be one of the 7M + 🎉
Inspired by you podcasts and interviews. Yeah, I was one of the random selected 3 Raffle winners in June. 😊 🎉
Good-o
Good luck him answering you. You better talk to chat gpt-5 instead 😂
Congrats!
If you like this episode please can you do me a little favour and hit the subscribe button on the video! I really appreciate you all. X 🖤
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Great podcast, just one note: given most of us do not have support teams, assistants etc., to liase with on in order to improve productivty, achieving goals etc., i think sometimes the content here veered a little more than usual towards responding to the biographical or specific contexts of Steven, this lessens applicability to the rest of us a little...
10.000 hours is not a lie its a misqoute, the man who invented it never meant you can become an expert in something by just doing it mindlessly for 10.000 hours. You have to keep using those hours progressing
This was my favorite video good job
Regarding improving retention of new information, I was taught the following: "Repetition is the mother of retention." and "When you learn something new that you want to remember, share it with 3 people and that will help cement it to your memory." No guarantees with these...but they have helped me immensely.
I can relate to what David is saying, working from home listening to podcasts and music checking emails, having too much coffee, sugar, multitasking can be very overwhelming.
You guys just changed my life into a better and brighter one. You have no idea how great is the job you are doing on this podcast.
Thank you so so much!❤
Wow, you guys finally solved the microphone problem. I remember the podcast you did where you and the guest talked about problem solving and you mentioned that you and the crew never thought about solving the microphone problem. This podcast teaches me alot, and today i've learnt that having a problem solving mindset makes a difference. Nice one!
I’m so glad that someone finally went into details (scientifically/nerdy) on long term impact and short term goals😭🙏🏻
Thank you for your knowledge David
I’m not surprised toggling between tasks increases stress. I’m a stay at home mom, and trying to do anything with my three year old around can make me stressed just for the fact that I’m having to stop and start any given task every two minutes. Doesn’t matter what task it is, it makes it stressful.
This is an amazing interview. I love the discussion on the difference between Tiger Woods and other athletes' development paths. If I understand correctly, our son's fencing coach ended up with a 50 year old making it to nationals after only 3 years. It sounds like he just signed up with his son because the coach would give you 50% off a second family member's monthly fees and the adults practiced with the advanced teens, and if you have to stay there anyways because you have a long commute you might as well get some exercise.
Also, that fencing coach encouraged parents to have their kids in other sports because it was helpful to improving in fencing (possibly some of that is exercising different muscles from fencing which is very imbalanced).
Really glad to hear this one resonated with you!
Hi Steve,
I'm Linet from Kenya.
Always tuned in for these very eye-opening conversations every Monday and Thursday.
What I like most about you and your guests is how disruptive you guys are- a catalytic trait to strive and out-do oneself in the 21st century, which is characterized by frequent unprecedented situations.
I'm also reminded of one of your five entrepreneurial lessons tackled in the "Behind the diary" channel.
That normal is ignored, but absurdity sells 😊
Challenged in a good way, I'm grateful and will keep coming back for more, God willing, till I become and serve my purpose in my generation, and keep running for the good cause, Steven👏
Same also from Kenya
@@Mecagothits nice to meet you🤝
Really love the pod and thank you for all the wonderful conversations you have. On the point of remembering things, this is the amazing things that good teachers do every day to support students with their learning (cognitive load theory, principles of instruction). It’s incredible to think about learning and thinking, and we often lose, or more pertinently don’t practise, these skills once out of an educational setting.
David's response about AI was really great.
"If that means my books dont sell as well, but i get to learn 10x as much science that's a tradeoff im definitely willing to make"
Thank you so much for this episode. It's exactly what I didn't know I needed. It's an HR specialist, the last few weeks I have been struggling to figure out if I am truly needed. My colleagues and former co-workers all have these really good specializations and I feel like I'm all over the place. I've had the privilege to learn different facets of things that aren't necessarily HR with their connected like systems within HR like things that connect to the specialized thing. Sometimes I feel like those aren't needed so many people want you to be a recruiter or to be really good at benefits are really good at leave or really good at relations and I feel like I know about all of those things in different ways but not enough to be an expert so do I fit anywhere. This is definitely an episode I'll have to watch again. I've definitely spent a couple of weeks googling what is the point of being a generalist Is it better to be a generalist or is it better to be a specialist. I often wonder if I just wonder around with a backpack full of random knowledge but it's always useful Like I'm MacGyver lol I'll also be reading the books. This is awesome. Literally perfect timing for me.
Thanks for a wonderful chat lads.
Hahahaha Steven, every dad's dream when they have a child. So was mine until my twin boys turned 10 yrs. They said we don't like football anymore as they found motor racing more fun. Now, at 15, they love all kinds of sports from football, table tennis, swimming, badminton and racing and I respect their decision.
Is this just me or recently there are bots recommending these random books and other bots getting that comment to the top?
I knew it from the first time I saw you. You have the future in your hands ❤ The world needs you ahead ❤
Great interview with tons of gems and nuggets backed up by research cited. Saving this one for a replay.
Hello from Colombia 🇨🇴 I’m a new subscriber and I’ve been binge watching your videos. Great content!
It's really hard to pivot and zigzag around if you have a crippling mortgage, children, uni debt and work ridiculous hours.
Moan about it, or get creative?
I did it.
I'm doing all those things now and i wouldn't say im struggling, a partner who works too does help but im the main breadwinner. It's difficult & challenging but worth it and doable.
Just don't be american seems like good advice.
No, not really
David Epsteins 'Range' really gave me hope (in being a 'generalist' and not a 'specialist')! Thank you for this interview, Steven!🎉
same. I was always worried about my future since I really don't know what I like. started from schools, when people asked me what subject I like the most, I would say A,B,C,D till I almost mentioned all. Then now in my 20s I feel like I am not like others, so I kept wondering whether or not I can be good at something. Then last month, when I read "Range" it was so comforting, I fee like being told that "it's just not the time yet, you'll get there, and better than you can ever imagine"
Yea, also the difficulty of choosing - one subject, one career over others...😢 But eventually you do have to choose - and choose wisely - pay attention to yourself, your likes, what you enjoy doing. But even if you make a mistake, it's ok - you will learn smth about yourself and that will bring you closer to your ('wiser') future self - and eventually you will get there - one step at a time 😊 and don't forget to enjoy the process❤
I love these kind of episodes that really get you questioning yourself. And yet inspiring enough to let you know that's a good thing !
If you do 10 000 hours you may be good at something. Whether you are a master in it depends (relatively spoken) on the competition. I never understood the argument with starting your day 05 o'clock in the morning. There are 24 hours a day, and whether you put in the work early or late doesn't matter as long as you get it done. The only hours you are controlled by the clock is the hours you are expected to be available for others (customers, vendors and so on). If it suits you better to work late in the evening instead of early in the morning, go for it. You will be just as productive that way.
The big difference I find between getting work done in the morning versus the evening is that when I work late in the evening (and/or into the night) it disrupts my sleep cycle and I wake up the next day feeling really tired and mentally groggy. If I go to bed early (9-10pm) and wake up early (5-6:30am), I feel so much better and my health improves. In the long run, waking up early and doing the work in the morning contributes to better physical, mental and emotional health (for me at least), which in turn helps me become more and more productive.
@@nilnil7325 There are a couple other DOAC episodes where they talk about sleep cycles and that some people are naturally morning people and some people are naturally night hours. Best advice - Know thyself
Following the line of reasoning that sleep is important and that one sleeps to recharge/recover, one can also infer that as the day progresses, one’s cognitive bandwidth decreases. In other words, it would be illogical to assert, in most cases, that one’s cognitive ability is equally as receptive after waking up vs after a full day. It stands to reason, then, that allocating the morning time for learning likely provides the most optimal conditions. Interestingly enough, there are people that say they “work better at night” but never research the contributors. I suspect that they like working at night for the same reasons others like to work early morning (while it is still night)…less distractions.
@@ChrisESil : Yes, of course ... late at night and early in the morning (depending on what you prefer) is usually a time of less distractions and disturbance in general. Some of our hours we are locked to being available to other people. If your customers expect to reach you between 08 - 16, well then that is the hours you need to be available for them. But if you for example are writing code for a piece of software, it doesn't matter if you do that work early or late, as long as it suits your internal clock. My point is that I am not buying this mantra that you are less productive if you don't start your day very early. You have 24 hours available, and 8 of those hours you are asleep. The other 16 hours and what you use them on is a matter of prioritizing.
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How do “serial innovators” stand out to businesses or describe themselves?
I have never had a term for myself or how I operate but this captures it perfectly. When I work with or for a business I can’t help but see and share where issues are or the actions to take to improve them. To the open minded few that trusted me to help them the results were massive.
How do I describe what I do? My experience is based in actual experience and observation not text books. I couldn’t decide what I wanted to be so I tried EVERYTHING. Marketing, branding, design, consulting, strategy, health and safety, training. Everyone wants an expert on paper, what if there is no certificate for the thing you mastered?
I did NOT notice the missing microphones until you mentioned it. But I did notice in the intro you allowed us to hear a few nuggets and only cut off the guest for the last two answers, and I appreciated that!
this episode really challenges some of the conventional wisdom we've all been taught! David Epstein's insights about the 10,000-hour rule being a myth and the impact of our morning habits are eye-opening. It's fascinating to hear how being a generalist can actually be more beneficial than becoming hyper-specialized. Definitely made me rethink how I approach my daily routine and long-term goals. Great interview, Steve!
this just reminded me of something, I completely changed my habits by finding out book called The 21 Former doctor secrets by Rachel Morgan.
I see almost the same comment so many times, isn't this just some kind of bots? and then other bots are liking the comment hmm
@@mateuszwajcheprzeloz3737how did it change ur life and is it worth reading ?
It's always good to find your niche & flourish in it!
Checking your email first thing ruins your day. You're welcome ;)
Lol, know it’s a joke but for those who want the bit more in there:
Time block your working day into sessions where you work on only one specific task during each designated block, with notifications and distractions as low as you can get away with, no je reason for this because switching between tasks causes your brain to need to switch running it’s previous task whilst also adopting the rules of new tasks, so if you switch constantly between tasks in a work session you’re way way more unproductive than by focusing purely on one thing.
Make sure to not over time block your tasks, give yourself leeway and forgiveness in length of sessions and breaks between tasks and stuff.
Also make sure that you identify the one thing that you want to achieve in the day that’s most important for you to get done and set aside time ti complete it, and of course commit to carrying out the task in that time no matter how much you may not like it
Music is innately varyingly disruptive but it can also be motivating. It takes up brain space but the motivation and calming effect can be beneficial. Listening to non-novel music is less disruptive on average due to familiarity. Lyrical music can be problematic and simple repetitive instrumental music is on average much better due to no novelty. But your music should be quiet nonetheless to take up less brain space. Highly cognitively demanding tasks are much more disrupted by music than simple ones, if you’re bouncing around a lot of ideas it’s probably better to not listen to anything
There's an amazing Coursera course called "Learning how to Learn" by Deep Teaching Solutions, and it covers a lot of the ideas here in more detail, including on how they work on a biological level.
It goes all the way from deliverate practice and the varying types of learning (flash cards, etc), to understanding memory and even utilising a Memory Palace.
Fundamentally shifted how I think about learning, and I loved the whole thing, as the instructor clearly loves what she does.
So, while I didn't gain a huge amount from this conversation (still fun), it's reinforced that what I've learned is on the right track, so I appreciated it!
theres a video by Andrew Huberman called "optimal protocols for studying & learning" on youtube. you would gain a lot from that too since there is a lot of common ideas
@@aldrinseanpereira140Funnily enough, this is in my Watch Later already. 😂
Range and The Sports Gene are among my fave books. My fellow NU alum, David Epstein, is the man!
I feel extremely productive just listening to this guy speak
This was extremely empowering. Thank you for this♥️
in July I read his book RANGE
now this podcast
❤ GREAT
7mil!!!! Dtswusssuuupp!! So much thanks to you, Bartlett, All your staff, guests + all your interviews of unfiltered and unguarded perspective, experience + personal knowledge (That is so difficult to encounter online)
This girl once told me that she had never failed anything she tried so she looked at failure as something negative and then I told her, the things that I failed first are the things that I know best. I was trying to show her that failure had a power she could not see, since to her mind she had not failed anything.
She's just a liar and arrogant prick
Did you propose anyway? lol.
If you don’t make errors you never learn. You just don’t want to make the saame error again and again.
She failed failing
Love this. Reflection! Very clear message! So many examples to back up what he is saying. Truth. Looks for factors that others just ignore. We all need to do the research for ourselves to find the truth. This video and Evy has been the best so far.
Every show that you do makes me think in such a deeper way. You are such a brilliant yet normal guy that it really keeps me interested and listening. Keep up the great work!
Fascinating video. I always knew that checking emails was a massive time suck and energy suck. Thank you for validating my inclination on that!
I completely relate to this discussion on explore and exploit! Excellent interview! 👏👏👏
Another benefit of music is that it's like a safety net for your attention, you still stay in your current task context even if you get unfocused. We all get pangs of inattention or boredom that trigger us to switch tabs to chat/slack/teams, or quickly look at another task or browser tab. But if that moment of inattention is captured by the music then it's not as hard to get back on task. At least in my experience.
It's good to know for me to change old beliefs by watching your show
My life has been greatly enriched by the insightful discussions on Here, which have fundamentally changed my outlook.
I like this guy's perspective in thinking. I also think you could do a whole show on the last question and his response.
For distraction free music, video game soundtracks are designed to be less distracting than regular music. They contain fewer musical movements, no lyrics, and often understated instrumentation. They're designed to be a backing track to an experience that could last hours, so they try to avoid repeating patterns that will become annoying or attention grabbing as well.
“Lateral thinking w/ withered technology” this reminds me of chapter 6 of think & grow rich “synthesize imagination/creativity”
If you are ever in need of advice regarding DJ'ing or any of the technique's involved.
(or happen to play in Australia) feel free to contact me.
I am more than happy to help in any way I can.
Thankyou for an another amazing episode.✌️
i like how steven puts himself out there and takes criticism, learns and improves when he has guys david on the podcast.
One of the best episodes yet.
This is starting to become the best YT channel
I didn't really identify a viable career path until my late 20's, and I was in my mid 30's by the time it started to help me live the life that I wanted. I could have plodded along going nowhere, but i reached a place where i needed to push myself. Being in a relationship was a major catalyst for that, it gave me that sense of purpose. Everyone's circumstances are different, and for me it couldn't have happened any other way.
Thank you for bringing all these world class contents Steven, love it!
DOAC can you do a podcast on hertz, cymatics and frequency? Thoroughly enjoyed this podcast but this came up during it.😊
There are so many good points and moments in this episode...Thank you!
Hi Steven I have read your book The Diary of CEO. It was very impressive. I have planned to make a short videos of each chapter of your book where in the start of every video I will show your book.I want more people to read it. This will be my small contribution as a reader of your book.
Thanks Steven
Ya, I experience the point where he talks about on 58 mins in to 61 mins plus. The problem is that sometimes I'm getting frustrated with learning and a bit of music might help, but on the other hand, the music takes away both frustration and focus.
Even switching on and off the music takes a little focus away and distracts me.
LOVED this conversation!!!
Just an fyi, I clicked on a few time stamps and they are way off. Love you guys!
THIS is what I needed to hear this morning. Lots of aha moments. Also hope if you have a daughter she may also be encouraged to kick a ball.....Congratulations on 7 million subscribers 😀
Upbeat music has a different effect vs more calm music. With upbeat music, the higher the decibels the harder it is to focus whereas with calmer music there is no statistical change in focus based on volume. This may change depending on what your definition of upbeat music is
Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉🎉 great work! Keep flippin them gears brother! And your team. Ofcourse ✨✨✨💯💯 boosted my life on al fronts from da get go! ✨✨✨💪🏾💪🏾🎉
OMG This guy is describing my life/learningcurves. What a wonderful, life-well-done-affirming video. 😁🙏
awesome. you're the live prove!
This episode goes deep in the right productivity advices.
How many of you would be happy if you have the detailed notes of the podcast so that after listening this podcast you can have and read the important stuff in 10 mins anytime you want.
Let me know your response.
Okay that was just wonderful, thank you !
Enjoyed effortlessly and with as few distractions as possible. came here to let you know :)
What if for children at young age, how do we as parents know which kind of sports / hobbies are the right one for them? How long do we keep them exposing and trying out? What are the clue or hint to look out for?
I loved the info on foxes and system thinkers! It is fascinating!
I’m absolutely captivated by this episode. Having spent so much time learning independently, I’ve developed my own terminology for the process. For example, I refer to "debugging your own thinking," which aligns closely with the idea of "self-regulated learning." The insights from this episode will help me deepen my self-understanding with greater efficiency.
On the topic of AGI, I fully agree with David. It’s clear that we don’t yet grasp why LLMs are so powerful at encoding human knowledge. But with the growing financial focus on Generative AI, we might eventually uncover the mechanisms behind it and learn to encode knowledge more effectively.
Moreover, I believe that our understanding of how to support super AI is still in its infancy, making fears of it premature. The analogy is like fearing that a cockroach will learn to take over the Earth and develop the brain capacity to do so. Is the human brain-and its digital approximation-able to be 1000x smarter? Knowing all disciplines at an expert level is not 1000x smarter; knowing how to conceptualize and think in the fifth dimension (and higher) might be.
Oh how I love Mondays … and a new podcast from diary of a CEO ❤ thank you 😊
Excellent episode. High value, as always. Thank you.
I‘ve been looking for a pic of your new Mic setup, sounds good! Which Mic did you opt for? A lot of people would pull out a shotgun without realising mega directional mics have more pickup in the rear. I can hear a bit or room, but it seems well controlled… good acoustics maybe? If your setting mic height by a locked off wide shot, you could always layer a shot without the mics to achieve an even tighter mic placement… just don’t nudge the camera 😬 Probably more risk/faff than it’s worth… as I said it sounds plenty good 😊
Shout out to you and your team on reaching the 7 million subscribers. To growth 👊🏿
Babe wake up new diary of a Ceo vid!!🎉
Yawn. Be original
How was this podcast? Was it helpful?
@@thebodykeepsthescore2828 lol okay?
The typhoid fever story about the doctor is absolutely horrifying whoa.
But typhoid isn’t transmitted through saliva.
this video opened my mind! thank you
I really wonder (and perhaps worry) how much of our lives becomes shaped off of incorrect conclusions that everyone accepts as "common sense / knowledge" such as 10,000 hours = a master.
It really gives me pause on what other things are we treating as correct but we don't even realize how wrong we really are.
Are we collectively shutting down differing perspectives and opinions simply because "that's how it's always been done" "everyone knows this to be true"?
"What's something you are good at that you aren't using?"
Wow! What an excellent question to ask yourself to get to the next level.
I enjoyed it a lot!
I knew something sounded different. I initially thought Steven was sick, but he looked well. Completely unaware of the nonexistent microphone, it only registered once he mentioned it.
Good Morning All
Good morning 😃
Good morning
@BrothaSc😢hwifty
This convo is so affirming to the nonconformists and zig zaggers. Thank you gentlemen.
My take on this is…learn problem solving skills not just knowledge and processes. As Jim Rohan said the reward for becoming a millionaire isn’t the money, but the skills you acquire along the way. Also someone who can put their phone in airplane mode at night doesn’t have elderly sick parents.
Hi I’m Devon and I’m 8 and I discovered you podcast from my cousin who is 13 and it’s helped me on my way to starting my first company. Let’s go!
Question is: before 12 years old, isn't there a ton of basic education and knowledge that one needs to learn before even thinking of making a company?
Literally one of the main points of this interview is to try and learn a lot of things before selecting one.
Love this dude. TLDR his books are The Sports Gene & Range.
Knowledge supports growth.
Great mentioning Lomachenko. Glory to Ukraine!
So, to sum up this conversation, we need to go back to the original form of the adage "It is better to be a jack of all trades than a master of one" (This used to be a compliment.)
When specialization became a wanted commodity, the adage changed to a derogatory slander against generalists and we still use it today. "Jack of all trades, master of none".
Jack of all trades, master of some...
Anyone who says "master of none" is attempting to belittle the generalist. Probably because they're unhappy that they've pigeonholed themselves into a niche in which they've become 'stuck'
The major issue about NOT multitasking is, the world is becoming VERY busy and it's compelling to try and keep up