Can the Fathom Gemini Compete with the KISS Sidewinder? DEMA 2022
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- Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2022
- Today we are talking about the Fathom Gemini. A rebreather newly announced at DEMA 2022 that takes some serious design inspiration from the KISS Sidewinder. Is that a bad thing though? I'll leave it up to you! Remember! If you Vibe, Subscribe!
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I have one, it deals with the pitfalls of the kiss pretty well other than certain downsides that are inherently present in the design. The machining and customer service are impeccable as well.
Thanks for the info Jason!
Over priced
@@davidgilbert2998 compared to what? A comparably equipped sidewinder is the same price with a worse design and build quality. I’ve dove both.
@@Jason_Barfield scuba gear in general 😂 I want to get into it just a lot of money
What are the downsides you mention? I'm asking as I am looking at perusing my first rebreather.
Pretty cool. Bonus points for any time Gny. Sgt. Hartman gets involved, haha.
I see you are a person of true class.
The ORCA v6 is the greatest rebreather ever made. Video on it, Zack.
Bold claim! I like a bold claim. I'm gonna take a look at it and if there's enough cool stuff to talk about, maybe I'll do a video! Got a couple videos in the hopper right now, so it might be a little while.
After seeing the quality of Fathom's rebreathers, I think this is a really good thing for consumers. I also think the two are just enough different, in the same way that JJ, Meg, X, Fathom BM and even Liberty are different. Not sure how I feel about the removable scrubbers. On the one hand it adds to bulk and "stuff" on the other hand, one can cycle scrubbers similar to how rEvo divers do it, etc. Just like every other rebreather on the market, there's no perfect one, just compromises we're willing to live with ;)
I just can’t stand how expensive it is…… I can probably make my own 😂
@@davidgilbert2998 they're all expensive, buy used, but it's an expensive hobby either way. Training is a pretty penny too, can't skimp out on that
@@brois841 once you have all the gear and training probably not as bad.
Once I'm ready to get into a unit I think I'll be looking at the choptima. It helps that I know 4 divers diving it. That way I have people on hand to show me their setups ect.
That’s what I dive. Great system. Using an EAC instead of loose sorb if a game changer. I can have my unit up and ready to dive in 30 minutes hitting everything in the checklist
@@mikesbigadventures194 yea my friends seem to be ready pretty fast. However I don't really have anything to comlare it to. So I plan on doing try dives on a few units to see what I like. The fact I know people who dive it gives it an edge though. That way if we are on a trip we can exchange spare parts when needed (obviously I'll have my own spares but it's a nice backup).
@@mikevondebag Its a slick unit, two of my old dive buddies use them and they're real happy.
Is there gonna be a Sidewinder Deluxe Mk2 or whatever soon? Any new features planned or possible?
Yes! They recently teased some photos of the sidewinder 2. Looks pretty cool. One of the big features is a water trap, but there's a lot going on with it. They should be releasing more info in the nesr future.
Great Video, as a sidewinder diver interested in this development. Can i ask which hoses you use, i find the 12 inch standard retractable ones much too short and the 16 inch from Narked a bit on the baggy side
I use the standard length hoses. I also felt the ball gag effect. I got a set of loop hose covers from golem gear and they sort of stretch the hoses a little bit, which made everything much more comfortable to dive. Now they're permanently stretched a bit and much more comfy. I'm 6'5" so I definitely need a little more length, lol.
These all look great, diving the Choptima though, it is hard to consider an mCCR.
I don't discriminate, I just love rebreathers. lol
@@DiveVibeI understand, I'm not rich enough to afford multiple rebreathers. As a sidemount diver myself, I am a little jealous though!
I want to know what you think of the Divesoft Liberty! Cheers, #SeattleRingHunter
It's super tight. The bailout function on the liberty sidemount makes it an ideal unit for running a dual rebreather. Divesoft makes top notch stuff!
Interesting… My KISS comes in May
I still think you made the right decision. Did I ever mention that I took a full force body check from a 10ft manta ray and my sidewinder held up?!
@@DiveVibe I’ve only seen one of those once when I was diving with whale sharks. That must have been a cool experience. I’m looking forward to starting the new training.
Cool …. Didn’t know there were third party companies for sidewinder
Light monkey makes some after market parts for the sidewinder as well. I use the screw on towers for the loop hose attachments on the heads. Its real nice
How do you review a new product and never mention price? Do you think were all so wealthy money doesnt matter?
It wasn't a review, just going over what I could gleen from the trade show photos. I've never even touched one and at the time there was no price announced.
KISS Sidewinder 2.0 will beat them.
Yeah it looks very impressive
The key word in this is 'will' - when exactly is the 2.0 going to be available for us mere mortals?