Jermaine O’Neal: This Indiana Pacers standout had MORE All Star selections than Reggie Miller ] FPP
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- He went to the NBA straight out of high school right after Kevin Garnett and alongside Kobe Bryant; but Jermaine O’Neal’s path to stardom wouldn’t be as instant as the Garnett or Bryant. O’Neal would spend the first 4 years of his career buried on the bench of some great Portland Trailblazers teams with guys like Rasheed Wallace, Arvydas Sabonis, Scottie Pippen, Steve Smith, Damon Stoudamire and more. So, O’Neal would taste team and playoff success early in his career, but would often do so sitting down. And once the Blazers infamously blew a 15 point 4th quarter lead to the Los Angeles Lakers in the Western Conference Finals, he was traded to the Indiana Pacers where he would transition into the team’s star as they transitioned from the Reggie Miller Era, and O’Neal would really fit the bill as he earned 6 straight All star selections and 3 All-NBA teams during his 7 seasons with Indiana, which would end up being a franchise record, surpassing Reggie Miller. O’Neal along with Ron Artest would anchor an elite defense for most of those years, but after the Malice at the Palace, things fell apart in Indiana and while they would eventually draft Danny Granger, O’Neal’s best years were past him as Granger started to excel. So, O’Neal would bounce around the league the rest of his career as he would go on to spend half a season in Toronto with Chris Bosh, then a year and a half on the Miami Heat with Dwyane Wade, followed by a couple seasons in Boston alongside guys like Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo and Shaquille O’Neal, before ending his career with a year in Phoenix then a final season on a budding Golden State Warriors with a young trio of Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green.
O’Neal’s career would end after 18 seasons, but his career was filled with adversity and heartbreak, but he would never complain and always come back strong which is why he was such a respected player both on and off the court, but one that gets overlooked as his prime occurred at the same time as the all time greats at his position like Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett and Dirk Nowitzki. So, Today we’re going to give some shine to the career of a forgotten great power forward of the 2000s, Jermaine O’Neal.
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Where does Jermaine O'Neal rank on the all-time Pacers list?
Jermaine is a top 5 all time Pacer. I can only put Reggie and PG above Jermaine and MAYBE the Rifleman
I'd say he ranks right behind PG. Yes Reggie Miller was a Pacer for 18 years but I think O'Neal being good on both offense and defense makes him more versatile.
#3
I mean they don't have many great players throughout their history he would have to be top 5 by default
Top 5. Reggie Miller, Jermaine Oneal,Rifleman Chuck Person, Danny Granger and Rik Smits
Indiana should've already retired his #7 Jersey. My favorite big man in rhe early 00s. So glad a video was done on him. Very very much forgotten especially playing against KG, Duncan, Webber, and Nowitzki.
I heard once that the pacers wanted to retire his number but he told them no cause he didn't believe he deserved it since he didn't bring them a championship!
@@c.kerns0118 that's even MORE of a reason to retire his jersey.
No, we don't do participation over here@@marcoslaureano5562
One of the most underrated and underappreciated stars ever
Nah, the most under rated super star was Sheriff Abdur Rahim on the Hawks.
@@younglove3362 Yes he is as well. The combination of playing for bad teams and the loaded PF position we forget he was a walking bucket
No. O’Neal was soft, all about himself and actually I think he’s overrated. Put any talented PF on those Pacers teams and I’m sure that they’ll do better. It’s hard to win with a soft PF or C, unless they’re all timers on offense.
@@iBmEVanquisher lmao 🤣 okay
Elton Brand
Do Al Jefferson next!!! he was a scoring machine averaging 24 & 12 per game.
That punch he threw in the fight with the pistons is LEGENDARY💯💯
😂😂😂
I always thought he would become the Tim Duncan of the East. He was unstoppable around 03-04
he is definitely overlooked
He was better the 2 seasons prior… By 03-04 he shot 43% as a PF…
Ironic because as a Sixers fan I was heartbroken when we got the 2nd pick in the Duncan draft because we were one pick away from an AI/TD dynasty. So I remember wanting the Sixers to trade for Jermaine O’Neal because I always liked players coming out of HS and all you had to do was see JO move on the court to know he was going to be really good. Plus Portland wasn’t playing him.
One of the best pfs in the 2000s
Salute to Jermaine O'neal he had a solid Career and never gave up when things got rough.
The malice at the palace messed up things for so many people.
How so?
The pacers players. Those involved had a bad time afterwards
I had a cool Jermaine action figure in the mid-00's. Really solid player. It's too bad those Pacers teams never got a chip.
He was my favorite pf in his time dude had it all hate the injuries killed his career
Have been very on point with the channel, Jermaine was the great since early on I remember when he got traded to the Pacers I was pretty excited for him cause I knew he was gonna have a opportunity to shine. Would be great if you could talk about other Pacers great such as: Danny Granger, Jamaal Tinsley, Rik Smits
Crazy played 4 seasons and he was still only 22 when he got traded to Pacers
Definitely not forgotten. Legit 20 10 in his prime
He definitely is. That’s not to discredit but look at the era he was playing in during his prime. When we talk about the players who played his position we bring up Duncan, KG, Dirk, Webber, Shaq before we bring up JO. Very underrated when we talk about him now
I would put J.O. in the top 5 Pacers of all time. I live in Indianapolis and was fortunate enough to watch his entire time with the Pacers. There have been few that dominated like J.O.
P S I think a Zach Randolph video would be good too.
I agree. I got Jermaine O'Neal 3rd behind reggie miller & paul George.
He was never forgotten 🤷🏾♂️ and I’m from Detroit EastSide born & raised we were aware of him season after season
Man I wish we (Heat) got Jermaine in his prime. Him and Wade would’ve been a nice duo
One of my all-time favorite players.
Glad you did this one! Keep up the good work bud like these videos!
Keep grinding bro can you do a Ben Gordon video ? Or Boris diaw plzz
Ben Gordon or his white backcourt buddy in chicago
If Ron Artest doesn’t jump into the stands, O’Neal might have a ring
He might be in the hall of fame
Nope, Pistons, Miami, or Spurs would have beaten em.
@@younglove3362Miami lol what are you on Miami wasn’t beating that pacers squad. If you were watching those years it was Detroit or Indiana winning the east plain and simple. West had lots of arguments between san Antonio la Sacramento…04 I’m missing someone out west.. but east was a two team race. It’s ok if you weren’t old enough to know but Indiana used to be one of the most respectable teams in the league… please don’t respond to me I don’t care what you think you know. I’m telling you.
@@dougefresh8029 true.
He was the third best powerforward at a time behind Garnett and Duncan. Many don't remember or pay attention, I did. It was around 2003 - 2006 he was the third best of then all. Sad people don't acknowledge him and under rate him.
Nah dirk c webb then he number 5
Chris Webber … Dirk… Racheed Wallace , he was behind all of these guys let’s be honest now in the east he was on top
He was 4. I'm from Indy and love JO. Yet Dirk was better. C Webb was on the decline and Wallace was also.
@@kishahngood5825 NOPE!
@@2gfresh367 NOPE!
Man Portland really lets go of some really good talent and they become all stars on other teams. This is the second player I heard about who rode the bench for Portland only to become a break out star on another team.
What's crazy about Portland, I think Portland should've kept him but it was a benefit for both the Pacers and the Blazers. The Blazers was still a solid team with Bonzi Wells and Zack Randolph on the team after Rasheed left if I'm not mistaken.
@@BSmokeyGamingfor half a year lol
Great job by the Pacers for keeping Reggie Miller after trading Dale Davis for Jermanie that was a blessing in disguise for O’Neal
I loved his game on the pacers!
Really appreciate these videos and the choice of players you cover. Technically they are not "forgotten", i still like watching the clips and listening to all the great info youre are able to hunt down and put together. Keep up the great work
Glad I grew up watching him play
9:15 When Shaq did that face, and put his arms up, as a die-hard Blazers fan, I KNEW it was over for Portland.
JO was nice. one of my fav players of the 2000s
Dang Shaq’s little brother was pretty good.
I don't think anyone has forgotten about ANY PLAYER from that 96 Draft Class. Ok, maybe Kerry Kittles, but definitely not J.O. so I don't get that. Oh, and please stop leaving C-Webb out of the conversation for Best Big Man in the '00's. That crap is getting frustrating. Hell, do one of these on HIM, since so many people seem to forget how good HE was.
If you are from Indiana you definitely never will forget him
I'm from Miami and I remember him. He was bad in Indiana.
@@younglove3362 lol jokes he was a multi time all star and all NBA you call that bad ?
@@poisonious_cactus9402I'm sure he means Jermaine O'Neal was Baaaad in Indiana. Bad as in Very Good
He was the best big man in the East for awhile in the 2000s
He's my favorite player ever Jermaine O'Neal i love pacers era during 2002-2007
please do Kenyon Martin next!
Jermaine O’Neal and Tracy McGrady both made no sense how their original teams ever played them
Even late teen early 20yo I was always like WTH are they not getting playing time ??
if you’re going to draft them, play ‘em
They both showed what they were made of when they got playing time
Both coming out of High School I got the way they were handled the 1st seasons but after that I was always looking for them and it rarely happened because they didn’t even get on the court as often as the should have.
Tracy finally got legit playing time & roll His final season in Toronto but He still was not utilized anywhere near what He should have been
Could have had cousins balling out together but Toronto blew that
They both went on to have amazing All Star HOF level careers
Even after their 1st 4 seasons almost being waisted away
I admit to my own whiff: I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American and male. I was SO excited when the Blazers drafted Jermaine O'Neal, because I thought that he could be another Shawn Kemp or Kevin Garnett. Like everybody at a younger age, I was so impatient, and after 4 seasons of barely playing and scoring in Portland, I called him "DNP-CNP: Does not play, because he cannot play." In 2000, rumors had the Blazers trading O'Neal to the Bulls for the #4 pick, and then the Blazers could have picked a superstar like Marcus Fizer, Chris Mihm, or Jamal Crawford. I actually wanted the SONICS to get Jermaine O'Neal, as he would have been PERFECT for us! Jermaine definitely turned into a star! I WISH that it could have happened for Portland or Seattle.
I watch and subbed to alot of sport channels, u will get to over 1 mill subs if u keep going. Your vids are really good and very entertaining, please keep going
he was a beast 💪
More videos please
For years I though he was related to Shaq😂
How many 7ft o Neal’s can there be?!
Wow just from the jump 6’2 6’3 guard at junior year then going to 6’10 to 6’11 I would have never compared them before but when u see that it’s the biggest comparison to A.D. of course there’s differences but wow! That’s crazy. To Note so far obviously J’Oneal is much more of a grinder
Actually yeah Jermaine O'Neal and AD athletically, skill wise, and tendencies play almost identical. They both had a big growth spurt and both were really skinny then put on weight while in the NBA
Would Billy Paultz be too far to go back on, and do a video of? There likely isn't much footage available on him, unfortunately.
Can you also do a video about Tim hardaway and Mitch Richmond? Big thanks!
Nice video
You MUST Know this about me, to understand where, when and HOW I grew up: Born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American and male (showing HOW I grew up). I was SO excited when the Blazers drafted him! Being so much younger, his first 3 seasons of 4 ppg, made me say "He can't play!" I wanted SO badly for him to get traded to the Sonics, where he would have flourished. During the 1999-2000 season, Gary Payton for Damon Stoudamire and Jermaine O'Neal would have helped BOTH teams! I KNEW that Jermaine O'Neal would pan out!!
Thank you
I see you do a lot of Indiana Pacers then you need to do Danny Granger
Those Pacers teams should have at least made one Finals appearance
They would have if it wasnt for the Malice at the Palace. They were clearly the best team in the East that year
Says casual Indiana fans. 🙄
Thank you for the information on the Heat not having players with a lot of body fat.
Imagine how his career goes if he signs with San Antonio instead of staying in Indiana
His defense was one of the best as far as two way superstars I have seen. His offense was less then and he shot low percentages. He was a big time choke artist on offense in the playoffs.
You could almost use that same player intro for Chris Webber. Jermaine is only forgotten to young fans who’ve never watched him.
Sounds like your cat was rubbing against your mic @ about 28 mins
Yeah I don't know what happened there, didn't hear it until after I exported the audio. Don't have a cat though, so it wasn't that
As a Sixers fan I was heartbroken when we got the 2nd pick in the Duncan draft because we were one pick away from an AI/TD dynasty. So I remember wanting the Sixers to trade for Jermaine O’Neal because I always liked players coming out of HS and all you had to do was see JO move on the court to know he was going to be really good. Plus Portland wasn’t playing him.
Could you imagine the 2000 Sixers lead by Allen Iverson and Jermaine O’Neal? Especially if they kept Larry Hughes too and rolled out a Larry Hughes at PG, AI at SG, Aaron McKie/John Salmons at SF, Keith Van Horn at PF, and Jermaine O’Neal at C.
Or even a Jermaine O’Neal at PF and Dalembert at C would have worked with Snow still at PG.
But know we had scrubs like Kenny fuccn Thomas making big bucks.
Like all AI ever needed was a great big to play alongside him, one who was athletic and in him prime that could score too, so while Ratliff was a forgotten monster on defense he couldn’t do shxt with the ball. Dikembe either. And by the time we got Webber he was shot and could barely move despite what the numbers suggest.
Damnnnn he should've stayed in GS one more season 😮
Funny thing O'Neal retired bc he didn't think Mark Jackson would be back for the 2015 season. He was right but he would've had a ring
Please do Gerald Wallace
He was Supposed to put the blazers over the top lol. Brandon Roy lamarcus aldrridge Andre miller Joel pryzbilla just needed that defensive 3 that can get a bucket. Man that hurts to reminisce
Edit young nick batum and Wesley matthews
@@dougefresh8029 pryzbilla was traded for wallace, was an absolutely shocking trade for us
Tf happened at the end 😂 your mic dude
What i liked about JO is his defensive intensity.. any high flyer just sew him and went back
We always talk about how tough Stern was on players but its wild Oneal got 25 games for decking a fan while today Ja gets 25 for being immature whenever he gets around firearms.
I mean… You can’t allow players to deck a fan because that just sets a bad precedent.
@@iBmEVanquisher absolutely. I’m saying decking a fan and flashing guns on social media (ignorant but legal) shouldn’t be given the same punishments
Facts. I was telling people if David Stern was commissioner Ja Morant would've been suspended for the season. He gave lifetime bans to people better than Ja
@@AfricanH3ro yeah… I actually I hope he does something terrible, so people can learn to stop hyping up basketball players and to stop defending stupidity. However, I understand the game and what people like so I’m not about to write a long soliloquy about the situation.
Would love to see a shareef abdur rahim vid
It can be argued that Jermaine O'Neal's peak was as good or at times better than Kevin Garnett's.
AINT NOT ARGUEMENT HE WAS!!
Was always in my squad in nba live and some 2k games
Reminds me of Derrick Coleman career.
Not a pacer fan, but they should’ve kept jRose. He was never the same when he left Indy.
SOOOO underrated. It's actually a shame that Reggie Miller hung on for so long because Indiana would have benefited from having a young, good shooting guard. Reggie was truly washed by that time. He hurt that Pacers team by sticking around too long and not retiring much earlier.
Bro…
avg 1.7 BPG in that few minutes
That’s …. DPOY Type Defense
If You adjust the minutes
Married my cousin so some of cousins growing up have signed things from him like game worn shoes.
I always wonder about these high school players if they wouldve went to college
Do one on Mad Max frm H-Town
Your title is disingenuous so I'll point out two things, first Reggie Miller's prime and all-star selections are linked to the fact that guards who were demonstrably better basketball players than him were active in the Eastern Conference: Jordan, who was always going to be an all star starter and then take your pick depending on the year. Reggie came into the league in '87 and played until '05, so you have Dumars, Penny, Mark Price, Smitty, A.I., Drazen, Houston, Stackhouse, Shuttlesworth, Vince, and McGrady. Which one of them was he going to edge out for a bench spot? Second, O'Neal played in the Eastern Conference when all the best power forwards were in the West. So he was going to be an automatic All star selection because the only players he had to contend with were Sheed, Vin Baker, and Kenyon Martin....not exactly comparatively steep competition.
Good insight But Vin Baker was fat & an alcoholic at the time. Spot on about the eastern conference 2 guards. All those quality players for 2 spots
Lmao vin baker
If Bruce Allen mess up big time trading him. I remember Scottie Pippen in interviews, we have guys on the court who can really play who not getting min. Should have kept should have him with Sheed. Should been Ben Wallace & Sheed with offense duo. As Sabonis was aging smh. Also, why u didn't mention blazers was robbed in that game vs the Lakers,🤔
Neither rasheed or oneill could guard big centers like shaq or Tim Duncan. Sabonis although old had the strength
@@ogmusik2549 Sheed Guard Tim Duncan the best outta any forward even Tim would mention that. Jeramine is the one who will had played Shaq. U just be saying & uttering nonsense.
Damn tayshaun block is up there wit Brons and almost as crucial
It was before Lebron not after
@@MentalStillness I know
Pause it at @2:03 🤯🤯🤯🤬🤬🤬
The law is WILDDDD!
And should be down right unconstitutional!!!🎉
yeah im glad everyone didnt do the fact outrage crap and saw right thru that joke of a law...that was so garbage
He will be in the Hof
Columbia South Carolina !
The Blazers should've never traded him but they did & the teams they could've sent him to for these players #1 Bucks for Tim Thomas since Vin Baker wasn't there anymore #2 Sixers for Theo Ratliff,#3 Hornets for Derrick Coleman or Anthony Mason,#4 Celtics for Tony Battie,#5 Raptors for Jerome Williams, Corliss Williamson.....
Michael Bibby!
Tim Thomas next
How about Antoine Walker?
So Jermaine O'Neal gets an underage sex case being 17 with a 15 year old but Karl Malone was a junior in college & gets a 12 year old pregnant and not charged. Smh
The family decided not to press charges because they knew that Malone would go pro and they didn’t want to interfere with that. They wanted financial support from Malone, which never happened.
He didn't fit this category, WHO FORGOT THIS MAN? Just say what you opened up saying. His prime? Coincided with some champions 🏆 and HOFs, YET? HE STILL SHINED IN his own right. This is so wrong 😭😤💭.
Check out the channel description to get a better idea of what I mean by "forgotten" essentially guys who don't get talked about as much as they should as the years go on
@@ForgottenPlayerProfiles alright my guy! Love the channel and what your doing, I support ya.
Appreciate it bro. All love 💯
Classic
I enjoyed the Malice at the Palace!
We all did
Reminds me of Harry Giles and what he could be
Your still holding out hope for harry giles?
@@dougefresh8029 nah holding out for your mom and her failing relationships. Praying she gets it right 🙏🏾
Elden Campbell...Elden Campbell...please
Rik Smits baby!!!!
Post Karl Malone&Alonzo Mourning mutation created the new breed JO,Hilario Neñe,Chris Bosch..best on their Height
derek fisher, rick fox,
Jermaine O’Neal took horrible contested shots for no reason
And his name is "Horace Grant" not Harvey, u tweaking my boy 😅...
He has a twin brother named Harvey...
That was Harvey Grant. His son Jerami Grant just got a big money deal with the Blazers. So big it made Lillard finally request to be traded
to be TOTALLY honest my all-time and current favorite male athletes/jocks ever are were and/or PROBABLY will be #1 TIED wilt chamberlain and bill russell #2 kareem abdul-jabbar #3 hakeem olajuwon #4 alonzo mourning #5 patrick ewing #6 shaquille o'neal #7 george mikan #8 willis reed #9 moses malone and #10 dave cowens
No way he should have been an All-Star more than Reggie Miller there's something wrong with that picture
18:00 Jermaine O'Neal punched the Pistons fan in the face, literally! Why does an overweight fan take on a trim and cut 7-footer?
Artest too big to have such a weak punch. He should've dropped that Pistons fan
Oh how about Rick fox.
They wouldve more than likely won the title in 04 if that pos didnt throw the cup at Ron :(
People don't mention that part of it. Ron Artest didn't start that. David Stern the commissioner was at that game. I thought Ben Wallace got off light too
No, that happened in 04-05 (November 2004). They lost to Detroit in the ECF during the 03-04 season. They probably would have won in 2005, that was their best shot.
You're agreeing with what I said, we're talking about the same season (04-05)
I said 04 but meant 04-05 lol
Things really went downhill when he cut off his braids.
Thought he was shaqs brother when i was a kid
How many 7 ft o Neal’s can there be
jermaine o'neal didn't face legends like jerry west larry bird magic johnson kareem abdul-jabbar oscar robertson wilt chamberlain and bill russell