What Happened?
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2024
- Sentinels, the team that won Masters Madrid a little over a month ago, are now at risk of missing out on Masters Shanghai.
It’s pretty likely that they miss out on playoffs altogether in VCT Americas, so what the hell is going on with them?
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Brooo, i just freaking hate this new schedule. Almost every team from Madrid Masters got no time to evolve or adapt and cook some new game plans, cause they got heavily anti strated, like this is so shit.
I agree its not only sentinel look at the other region, except like prx and edg theyre always cooking. Their region is overall easy except drx and geng now thats hard
I also don’t like it cause they are choosing to announce new stuff at masters. It has made this episode feel SO empty with content since we won’t get our second new piece of content until June.
@@yelleaven9952 prx is so consistent cus no one plays the game like them. also the groups in americas are kinda insane. they're incredibly unbalanced, which is why top seed in alpha group pacific is 3-3, where top seed in alpha group americas is undefeated.
@@kirtrex yeah ive catch up.. EG winning against nrg and sentinels was NOT on my list for this year 😭
cry more gen g and prx have no problem with it
SEN have BY FAR the most vods on them so they're way more easier to read + counter strat. Plus no changes to the map pool and no meta shifting agents/patches also make it much more difficult.
Not to forget they didn't have time to prac and innovate. Played without IGL for many pracs.
Bro ive never seen a fanbase except SEN give this many excuses
@@dasdsadasd1088 JHAHAHA
@@dasdsadasd1088 it's not an excuse, it's a literal fact. It's why Fnatic aren't so good anymore too. Besides teams catching up, the vods, lack of prac as well cos the Fnatic players were all ill during kick off and stage 1 too. I'm no SEN glazer, i just like great valo here bro
Bro it's so nice that people give a fuck about vods when there fav team loses but not when teams like fnatic lose all because of the vods. But with all honesty it's not the only thing that makes them lose u can't keep doing the same thing forever and u have to innovate or u would go back to being a mid team, except loud and eg ( eg has had a weird ride to know if they are but I think might just be) who choose to innovate everytime making it hard for other teams to follow, players are all good but a good igl and couch is what's gonna make the diff atleast for the current valorant state.
Short answer, they barely had time after winning masters to come up with new things, be it strats, plays, ideas, team comps etc.
While other teams that were eliminated had their eye on Sen, and had all the time and footage to review it. Most importantly is the time.
0 excuses. Cs2 pros does this shit with only 1 week to rest in between like 2 tournaments every month. Top teams like faze rn and astralis back then can consitently plow teams with maps changing once every 3-4 years.
@@xxivkraegen2124 comparing valorant to cs is such a dumb take, you got one game where its abilities heavily affect the game while the other everyone knows the same exact smoke flash the lineups are the exact same you cant do much w the same 4 utilities at the end of the day cs heavily relies on your team being good at shooting and synergy and like you said they have 1 week to rest you cant heavily anti strat like you can in valorant
@@sschwi ikr, god give these guys some braincells, like comparing cs2 to valorant is crazy
@@sschwi this antistrat bullshit need to stop 💀. Not even limited to cs compare it to any esports and you literally have to study new teams every weeks no matter what. Or else some no name team would beat you to a pulp, if their strat stop working for multiple consecutive series in a row theres something wrong with your analyst/coach. Even top 30 cs teams can play 40 matches in the span of 3 months and i never heard of these antistrats excuses. How does antistrat even make sense? Of course the other team is always going to adapt to your playstyle and thats why you do research in scrims to avoid the same patterns.
@@xxivkraegen2124 Valorant lives rent free in CS player's heads lmao
I think the schedule is way too tight, and so there isn't time for the top teams to cook, in the sense that there is not enough time for them to develop new strategies that can counter what counters the strategy that got them to the top. At the end of the day, Valorant, as a class based tactical shooter, has metas and strats that are a lot more random than your Counter Strike due to its nature with agents, so there will be agents that can hard counter other agent's ability and not just throw smokes, throw nades and shoot at the end of the day. Sentinels, being a top team that did really well, means everybody is wanting to strike them down, and learning their strategies that they used to win before they can make a new strategy to keep their opponents on their toes.
the Valorant schedule is too tight?
sorry what...
@@V-O-Vmore like how the international tournaments are stretched for teams who are in them, such as flights and possibly even visa issues
plus the stages are pretty close to those events
also meta changes are a bit more rampant
@@V-O-V HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA IT'S SO FUNNY THAT THEY PLAY ONCE A WEEK YET THEY SAY IT'S TOO TIGHT LOL
Sentinels in 2 months has played 18 games.
- Falcons Dota 2 has played 18 game in 20 days
- Faze CS has played the same amount of games in just 1 month.
- M80 Rocket League has played 32 games in 2 months.
- Furia R6 (previously on W7M) has played 24 games in 2 months.
How on earth is the Valorant schedule tight?
But wasn't SEN considered the best team itw after winning the prestigious Masters Madrid tournament? They beat LOUD, PRX, and GEN.G who were the best teams at the event. How much time do they need to "prepare" against teams who couldn't even qualify?
Honestly it wasn’t their fault that they lacked practice going into post masters matches
Copium
Wtf
Imagine it's not your fault for lack of preparation. Who's fault is it? Bidens?
fnc did it thats not an excuse
@@z1laaa mf fnatic wasnt in masters???
Its clear this is a scheduing problem. Kru being on top of the bracket with Sen on the bottom is absurd. GENG are losng games they shouldent, so are Loud, Sen, KC, Heritics, etc. All the masters teams got shafted
Its only unfair if Sen is on the bottom what bios
@@xythiera7255It is bias. There is no world where Kru should be top of Americas. All of the Madrid teams are punching way under their paygrade probably because the entire world got to see their starts and they couldn't see anything plus only a few days to prep.
Y’all choked a 10-2 lead, scheduling is fucked up sure but don’t deny the fact that KRU is playing amazing and sentinels are playing dogshit
The bias kru is a great team everyone in Americas is great rn the only team that stacked was Sen
@@farhannadim9751 yeah, im gonna guess thats because all the Madrid teams had no time to recover, got all their starts exposed when they used all of them in Madrid to win, while the losers of the Kickoff got to sit back and plan.
The entire season is so confusing this time around, I just cba to do math to see who's making it to playoffs
this is why i love prx, their playstyle is just different and they are probably the most consistent pro team.
As a PRX fan, they are NOT consistent at all, whne they are at their best they could easily win masters but at their lowests they can lose to fucking team secret
i thought this video is 4 months old and 300 views then i realized i need mfking sleep. not sleeping melting your brain -_-
Same bro. What time is it for u we should go to bed
@@matthewgamble95 its 1 AM here
playing valorant honestly already melts your brain tbh
@@matthewgamble95 i just sleep then i suddenly woke up and can't sleep anymore 😤 2 hours of sleep only watafac.
and i got fcking food poisoned so hard my stomach hurts from vomiting too much 😭
If sen do make it to shanghai itll be great butt i still feel like theyll be fatigued and wont have enough game plans to win shanghai. I think its best for them to drop off for now try out some new shit and just breathe and prepare for stage 2 and get ready to take champions
Love this plan! Sen fan here btw
the groups are honestly embarrassing the fact that all three qualifiers from one group could be 4-2 and a 6-0 potentially if kru is playing again i didnt check the schedule and the other could have 2-4 qualifiers if im remembering the standings correct is just wild
the crowd sound like when i miss the throw in WII sports bowling
The scheduling of the tournaments are way too tight especially for those who participated in Masters. It's no surprise some of the teams who participated Masters are burned out and aren't doing ok.
We've seen in the past years of Valorant Esports, there has never been a single Masters winner that won the next big tournament.
The main issue is how tight the schedule has become since franchising happened so teams who didn't make it to the first Masters has the opportunity to watch the other teams play.
Overall, I wouldn't mind if Sentinels missed out Shanghai. They have enough points to make it to Champions and they can use the mid season break to recover before Stage 2.
If APAC wins their first ever international event then SEN would get in champs no doubt
Lowkey Diss
jawgemo clip at the start never fails to make my mouth wide open
This prevents from teams forming multi-year dynasties. In terms of professional competition, this is good. This will only force teams and players to get better and better.
Well we have to wait for another 1029 days for another trophy I guess
Since the update I haven’t been able to boot up the game 😢
the most egregious thing is the viper hard nerf.
i get it, she is a strong agent but theres maps where shes actually necessary and teams have built comps around the viper controller a lot of times. breeze being the biggest instance of that but icebox also. yes harbor is a solution to an extent but vipers biggest strength was defensive premeditation of utility which is not something harbor can do. i can see teams like LOUD suffering the most from this as Less pretty much has been viper only for the past few months.
I get what you are saying, but from riot's perspective, it's for the health of the game. same meta will make the game boring so they try to make it so people not use viper as frequently as previous season.
But then again I think if they want to make this nerf, they need to give the competitive tournament scene a breath of the air before scheduling more leagues. so teams can adjust well with other agents, nerfs and buff. With this competitive schedule not a single team will play consistently and it would just create chaos imo.
and so my conclusion is it is not agent adjusment issues, it's the schedule issue.
this vid, its too soon 😭
as a sen fan. hopium dont work this time, they should take a break and practice new comp. they are read so easily.
Tbh I think it’s just rough stretch, even they they probably won’t be at Shanghai I think they’ll be fine
No Lips as always forgetting to mention Loud consistency. Amazing
Lots of teams took advantage of the time they got off during the rest of Americas and we're seeing that in teams like Leviatan. Sentinels isn't a bad team, they just didn't have lots of time to practice especially with JohnQT being stuck in Morroco right before the 100T match. Them also being the Madrid winners gives teams more vods to review. I will admit though they're a pretty sporadic team and can accidentally throw when they shouldn't. But I don't think that's the main problem at hand.
thats a strange spot for a door handle
Hope they can bounce back
When did you hire professor akali?
valorant crowd sounds like wii sports spectators
And PRX being PRX always same
why does the lighting change at 5:52? :D
To be honest. With valorant devs constantly updating mid season is exhausting for the players. New updates means new strategies, new strategies basically means more work. Like tenz says, it's impossible to to have a run or dynasty for an ever changing game like valorant.
I honestly contemplating with that take, that riot should stop treat their game like is league, but if they don't balance agent it could impact to the audience. Because the same comp being used again and again could bored the audience.
And whatever Sentinel has to say, a lose is a lose. But, in a game like this, where every info is a crucial, you also can't deny that a lack of practice is also take a part to their loses. And adapting ingame is not that easy, if every teams only have one strat, sure it might be easy to adapt in under 25 rounds, but that is not the case. This Top tier teams have different variations for every site. Sometimes the other team just have a good day, thats it.
Holy shit nothing will make valorant pro scene happy.
I'm pretty sure some pros complained last year because the schedule was too tight... Just for this year to make even more fucking tight.
Good job Riot
5:05 what monitor arm is this?
Yeah… it’s CSGOver for SEN.
In valo I feel as if we call teams the best in the world too easily! I do not think one tournament makes you best team in the world! I do not deny them being great, but you have to put together multiple tournaments and duration to be the best imo! I feel as if we do it with individual players calling them best in world or the goat after one good tournament too! I cannot say anything about best teams or best players though since I am a liquid fan for all of their teams for longer than I can remember and have all of their jerseys but still haha
I won half a paycheck off that eg v nrg match
two things I wanna point out: 1)Valorant is really really diffferent because each round due to the abilities and so on can be very random and hence consistency doesn't exist.
2)Exhaustion is not a reason to start losing so bad after just winning like 1 big event and 1 Mid event. For example in CS2 the current best team FaZe(I am a FaZe CS2 fan) in every single lan event which they have attended they have made it to the finals of each one (8 lans so far. grand finals in each of them, won 4 lost 4) and FaZe have made lower bracket runs in a lot of them but still they keep reaching the grand finals time and time again so that's consistency which the Valorant teams don't have. OFC maybe the format is trash and the game itself is like that but there's no excuse to lose that bad as sentinels are right now.
Well
Unlike CS2, Agent balance changes meta drastically in valorant. We have some weapon changes here and there but nothing game breaking has happened yet. So Meta wise CS2 doesn't changes a lot unless someone comes with some insane lineup or pocket strat. Reason FaZe can do FaZe things is because they can run X strat 5 event back to back it would probably yield different result on basis whether they were hitting their shots or not. where as in Valorant, 1 agent nerf or buff can complete change how much control that agent holds on the map which sucks to watch.
Hence I personally love watching CS2 professional scene over Valorant. Good teams are good because they are good not because a certain comp is working for them. Unless you are talking BaitF, That dude was a bad comp. Astralis for the win.
1. that is literally what tenz said in the video
2. Its not only exhaustion. play off teams are grinding non-stop while the unqualifying teams can rest and restructure or work on new strats. By the time they get to the next event the play off teams are straight off of their run whereas the unqialifying teams come in with new strats that they polished
Your point in CS2 is like you didnt watch the video. CS hasnt recieved many meta changing patches. Valorant recieves meta changing patches even during events making teams constantly practice new strats. CS2 you are right if you are good you are good cuz its not the meta you havbe to adapt too. Same stuff every time.
G2 PLEASE TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY 😭🙏
5:53
LATAM ON TOP :')
The most Sentinels thing to do would be to miss masters, sign new talent, barely make next masters w/ miraculous play-in performance, get to finals and win again.
But the Casters always says "WE live in SEN Era"
see you in 2 years sentinels
Tenz couldn’t play clove 😢
I’m gonna be honest format/schedule and little practice or preparation for team after Madrid is sht. Riot seems to not give a damn and also making players feel like sht because not enough time to practice.
They already proved they can win, what they need is to prove they can contend consistently, same with before.
Good vid... But your shirt looks wrong side out with them seams.
Whats the need of such a long off season?? Use it to give larger gaps!
0:38 bro forgot Engh existed
pancada diff huh
It's nice to see an actually peaceful comment section about Sen for a change
Its not only Sentinels, Its practically every single team who has gone to Madrid and Zellsis really said the truth abt this thing. They havent got enough time...Give our bois some time to prep. This schedule is kinda coooked ngl
All sen fans like this and breathe in the hopium
Man fuck the new format. In vct pacific we got t1 barely qualifying for playoffs while going 2-4 and RRQ missing out playoffs while going 3-2. This seems balanced I guess?
video about kru please
eg's on a gambit run, sen have more time than anyone else to practice should they not make playoffs, and nrg are getting stomped into the dirt
honestly im happy for vct rn
bro ngl cs's schedule is way more packed
"what's going on with sentinels?" Precedes to ramble about EG for the first quarter of the video.
i blame the format
Honestly, I knew that Sentinels would go down, but not because they became bad, but because the other teams would have caught up. However, unlike before that teams caught up because Sentinels didn't practice, teams will now catch up because they've built superteams. Superteams take time to build chemistry, and that is obviously the case with LEV and NRG and the others. If Sentinels would like to catch up again, they would have to work hard again. They were just ahead of the curve back then because they were amongst teams who reshuffled their players.
loud eg and lev were just the better teams that day tbh
Not a huge fan of sentinels but I agree that SEN play a lot of pro matches which make their opponent has a lot of material to study their strat and position. Everything sen got had bring out to table so the struggle to make to playoff is normal. But if sen is not cooking in next vct event then there is no more excuses.
Other teams have been in this exact same scenario and have done a lot better. Stop making excuses
@@dasdsadasd1088 Nah, what I see is the longer you compete in Madrid, the more upsetting you got in this kickoff, except PRX.
I mean genG still secured 1st seed in there group right? And they played as many official matches as sen did
Very true, but Americas clears Asia. Very different levels of skills in my opinion
@@childishchong6912 Bleed Yay rn
@@childishchong6912 we'll see about that. Geng would beat the current sen easy. And should've. Asia lacks a trophy but when it eventually will win one it will open floodgates for most apac teams go dominate.
@@strawberry_cake1703idk Asia lacks good teams in most fps games. As a result. Good teams have to bootcamp and its alot of effort that many teams cant afford. Asia usually just has a hard time cultivating good fps teams
dont sleep on EG, they got supa and derek
Is it me or does he look like Clark Kent
Plus dude there so much anti strat that team have on them
Americas is a warzone. Every damn team is strong as fvck.
04:05 it works for one of the big 3 e-sports in the world, dota2, I think Valorant will be okay.. lol :P
Last performance was a fluke. Not a single team was playing as well as before.
Sentinels are good without a doubt, its just the fact that their honeymoon phase is over now. On top of that too, Sentinels have played the most matches/maps out of everyone in VCT, meaning they're at more of a disadvantage for counter strating. Yeah SEN won Madrid but at the same time, but you gotta keep in mind they're playing with a massive disadvantage and who knows how many strats they have left.
I want SEN to lose out on Shanghai, take rest, grind and dominate everyone in Champions
Everyone have excuses for Sentinels, but forgot about Fnatic last year. They won EMEA, won Brazil against prime LOUD, went 2nd in EMEA, won Japan against prime EG, qualified for Champs, and still got in top 4 in Champs, all in 1 year. Now Sentinels can't even get to play off, let alone qualified for Shanghai. If you want to be on top of the world, you can't have excuses for your losses. I think Sentinels lacks the wow factor, like Aspas or Narrate, someone who can make opponents shit their pants just by hearing the name. None of Sentinels players got to top 5 Rating in Madrid. They look good as a whole team tho, but you need more than that to stay on top for a long time.
Just imagine the monstrous GENG got defeated in APAC thrice and one of them is RRQ, A FRICKING NOBODY. There's indeed something wrong.
@Pump_keen RRQ isnt nobody in kick off they lose twice againts GenG but the match is very close so no suprise geng lose to them please research first before comment.
EG Cooking??? Where??
no time to make new strats yet iron randoms are acting tough
Bad format, this split loud had a 2-3 run, geng had a 3-3 run, g2 were only better than sen by 3 rounds. 3-3 run for sen should have been enough to qualify
Nothing happened. Na is a top tier region in this game. End of story. I wouldn’t be surprised if we send different teams to every single national event. It’s just like that
tenz wife has cancer relax its stressful for him
lmao
Honestly the format is just ass, it shouldn't be so complicated as this and winning Masters just doesnt seem worth it if you can't get a definite spot for Champions. It would be fair to at least make it so that you can get to play ins after winning Masters no?
I swear valorant trend pro players change every month 😂
This will sound like a major cope, but i hope SEN trolls the furia game so they lose any chance for playoff, get their deserved rest and get ready for stage 2 and champs.
Let's be honest their odds for playoffs are the same as 2023 and fun fact the deciding factor also involves Furia again!
Stop making excuses, they are just playing bad and thats all there is to it
This comment section is the most peaceful/rational about the SEN situation I've seen. Others I usually see with top comments are, "SEN fans can't cry about not having enough time to adapt to avoid being counter-stratted because other teams have experienced this before and done way better!" That or, "Cope harder, 'insert Valorant Pro name' plays better than the entire SEN team."
Big part of the reason why SEN is at bottom is that they have played most maps than any one and there's a lot of clips available to counter strat.
SEN didn't had enough time to re work strats and bring new strats.
dang
Meta shifts sucks, overnerfed characters sucks, new characters sucks, map pools sucks, skin prices sucks, range map outdated, smurfs sucks, valorant is a perfect example of the worst possible game for tactical 5v5 shooter... Heavily shows us game devs how to not to make a 5v5 shooter
They're pulling an Overwatch and its crazy to me how people dont see it
i mean they won some tourneys this year already. let them cook some strats during shanghai for champions. Sen fans, yall need to stop putting so much pressure on your own team. look what happen to em after reykjavik. calm down n go support another team for a bit.
Ohh another Valorant news video. Imagine if u had more esports in the world except for LoL, cs2 and Valorant :o what a great world it would be
this sentinels shit has nothing toi do with valorant and everything to do with members content schedule
we all know the real reason is their individual ego, im not a hater of sen btw*
What is bro yapping best team rn is leviathan the gifted that win to c9
if your win masters champion you get free pass to next tournaments how can you not include champions in the next tournament. It’s like kick boxer needs to clime back up after becoming the champion. That’s why esport never will lift off the rules are Stupid way it function is stupid people not making it with there visums is the worse riot games need to ask country free travel visum for all there participants
The format bro, is just fucking dogshit, if a valorant calendar could have:
KICKOFF
Masters 1
Split 1
Masters 2
Split 2
Masters 3
LCQ
Champions
and both splits have an 8 week round robin and 2 weeks playoffs, the VCT could be just perfect, but once again, Riot can't have a long-ass calendar like this anymore mainly because the length of a calendar like this could overlap with League events, Worlds included, and that's just too much for riot to handle.
4:26 stopped watching after this.
LATAM is just too good.
They honestly should be given a spot in the play offs, they are by far the most popular team in the world and that should matter the most ❤
Thats so silly. its skill based not popularity based and yes ik sentinels is incredible skilled but they have been severely underperforming
Go back to strangers
a lost is a lost, get over it.
All the people saying that SEN didnt have time to make strats are coping. They had 3 weeks to make strats while playing. The only loss that is excusable is the LEV one. Saving strats vs FURIA and mibr (who look kinda ass, sorry artzin) and then playing against EG (who didnt look ass) and still trying to save strats after the first map lost them the game and everything afterward. Completly their fault.