3D Print to Solid Metal, BETTER Than Lost PLA Casting

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @PaulsGarage
    @PaulsGarage  10 месяцев назад +2

    Zamak12 available at rotometals.com
    Want me to personally teach you how to use your 3d printer to make whatever you want in metal? Click here: paulsmakeracademy.mykajabi.com/joinus

  • @FrancescaMazur
    @FrancescaMazur Год назад +135

    The ducting you showed was single wall HVAC pipe. That garbage offgasses when heated, and if you're not in a well ventilated area, you can develop heavy metal poisoning. You should have a disclaimer in there. Great video though, gonna try this.

    • @stevrgrs
      @stevrgrs 2 месяца назад +7

      Yeah it’s like the idiots recommending torching galvanized steel for “the pretty colors” it makes 🤦‍♂️

    • @stevenbradley6572
      @stevenbradley6572 Месяц назад

      I honestly can't think of many things that don't release gasses or harmful fumes when heated, especially with a torch. Most people won't drink out of a plastic bottle if it sat in the sun for 5 minutes. At this point it is common knowledge.

    • @MAcDaTHo
      @MAcDaTHo 9 дней назад

      @@stevenbradley6572 Zinc has a special place in toxin heaven... It is not comparable to the "toxins" you get from a plastic bottle. Plus: This also happens to people who know the danger. So no, THIS is NOT common knowledge.
      (I have the feeling you live in a world, where everything is toxic)

  • @ChaosPootato
    @ChaosPootato Год назад +98

    This feels like therapy or something... A Paul video with no spilling, stuff works, result looks great, Paul is happy... very nice

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +18

      I definitely tried to screw that skull up but sometimes things just work lol

  • @87elky383able
    @87elky383able Год назад +21

    Pro tip…no vacuum chamber? a counter top foodsaver or equivalent with the hose attatchment for sealer jars👍

    • @beefan1596
      @beefan1596 2 месяца назад

      This is a genius idea. I don't want to break the bank on equipment, but investment casting seems to be the way to go for me. If this method works, then you just saved me a lot of money. Now all I have to do is find a way to obtain a burnout oven for cheap :P

  • @evren.builds
    @evren.builds Год назад +97

    The ducts might be and are probably galvanized. Be mindful that heat will cause the zinc coating to vaporize. When zinc vaporizes, it can create zinc oxide fumes.
    Great tips love your content

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +14

      Yes they are galvanized. Fortunately everything is already well ventilated for the plastic that's burning out and the propane 👍

    • @FFA704
      @FFA704 Год назад

      @@PaulsGarage Bad answer, heavy metal poisoning wont make you sick or dizzy it will permanently ruin your life

    • @FFA704
      @FFA704 Год назад

      @@PaulsGarage Good video nonetheless

    • @mmccubbis3662
      @mmccubbis3662 Год назад +2

      That’s all I could think about when I saw that part. Zinc oxide is potent fatal. I did like the video otherwise 😊

    • @TrogdorBurnin8or
      @TrogdorBurnin8or Год назад +18

      You're focused on the micron-thin layer of zinc on the ducts, which never gets especially hot in the first place, rather than the hundreds of grams of molten ZAMAK, which is 96% zinc.

  • @MikelNaUsaCom
    @MikelNaUsaCom Год назад +75

    so... building a lathe out of Za-12?

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +21

      I am indeed yes

    • @DEtchells
      @DEtchells Год назад +7

      I thought the question was a joke, but … cool! (A Gingery type thing or something more modern?)

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +10

      @@DEtchells modified gingery lathe

    • @dekurvajo
      @dekurvajo Год назад +3

      The only problem with Zamak, aside of relatively low melting point, that its kind of brittle material. In comparison, nylon is much stronger and actually sometimes even PLA is a better choice over Zamak.

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 Год назад +2

      Many parts will work well done in Za12.

  • @TopHatBurgers
    @TopHatBurgers Год назад +16

    Can't wait to see the "right way" to do it, bc I have a vacuum chamber, and perforated flasks. Great stuff, always enjoy your videos! Keep it up!

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +8

      I'm a couple pieces of equipment away from that but it's coming eventually👍

  • @josuelservin
    @josuelservin Год назад +3

    RUclips did that crap of just not showing me your videos on my subscriptions as if I had unsubscribed... Anyway, glad to have your videos back.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      Yeah they do that lol it happens to us all

  • @LunarburnStudio
    @LunarburnStudio Год назад +9

    Polycast is definitely a solid step up from PLA, been using it for a couple of years now. It works great for small scale casting but gets a little squirrely when casting larger prints in ceramic shell. Good video, dig your channel.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Good to know about the larger prints, thanks!

    • @privateprivate3767
      @privateprivate3767 Год назад +1

      what infill do you print Polycast for burn out? 80% 20%?

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +2

      I usually go as low as possible, 10-20% for most prints and I made no adjustments for polycast

    • @privateprivate3767
      @privateprivate3767 Год назад

      @@PaulsGarage thanx, you are really cool, I didn't even know this stuff existed

    • @LunarburnStudio
      @LunarburnStudio Год назад

      @@privateprivate3767 @paulsGarage The amount of infill for me depends on the size of the print. smaller prints are closer to 20% larger print (over 12" high) ill drop to 10%. The other variable is whether the print /object is a solid vs a thin walled hollow. Less for a sold, more for hollow. Ideally the less material you need to burn out the better.

  • @theblindbuildergrandminuti5648
    @theblindbuildergrandminuti5648 Год назад +28

    I used to do lost wax casting for Jewelry at a college and I wanted to get back into it for a long time.
    Thank you so much for this video.
    I just found your channel.
    Really looking forward to using Zamack Ingots and experimenting with all that, can’t wait to start making stuff!

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +4

      That's great! You can join the discord and share it with us if you want. Another good channel to look at is @vogman

    • @amosbackstrom5366
      @amosbackstrom5366 Год назад +3

      When I was like 14 I met a retired dentist in my neighborhood who had a whole jewelry casting workshop in his backyard. He taught me how to do lost wax casting and nickel and gold plating.
      One of the best memories of my childhood, I stopped playing videogames and football for a few months I went to his house almost every afternoon

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +2

      That sounds like an amazing opportunity. I wish more people would get that opportunity!

    • @kaasmeester5903
      @kaasmeester5903 Год назад +2

      For jewelers who want to cast small parts with fine details, a resin printer may be a better option. There is a resin equivalent of polycast that has (casting) properties very similar to wax, and a lot of jewelers have started to use this.

  • @woodndrum303
    @woodndrum303 Год назад +5

    Claim - this stuff works, well wow it really does. I’m new here and this is a breath of fresh air! Good clear advice or info delivered at a fast pace and good shots of casts that are just fab. Like it a lot, thanks Paul.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      Thanks!

    • @NeoIsrafil
      @NeoIsrafil 10 месяцев назад +1

      Polycast is great, the tip about prepainting with plaster is genius, especially for people without a vacuum chamber, so yah I concur, good advice here. I would suggest making sure you only use that vent tube outside only cuz it will poison you otherwise, and if you want higher resolution resin printing with burnout resin works the same as pla printing with burnout PLA but at a much higher rez. Couldn't have given better advice myself.

  • @travislawson1185
    @travislawson1185 8 месяцев назад +1

    This one video got a thumbs up and a subscribe from me. Thank you for this. I own a small business specializing in restoration of vintage automotive related hobbies such as racing karts, motorcycles and specialty cars and trucks. I am a professional fabricator and often times I have to methodically recreate broken or worn out parts that can not be purchased at any price. I have been seriously considering purchasing a decent 3d printer just for this purpose of assisting in sand casting and slurry casting of one off parts. Everything you said is music to the ears. Thank you again.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  8 месяцев назад

      That sounds awesome! That's why I got into metal casting, i wanted to make car parts. I got a bit distracted with 3d printing and fell way down the metal casting rabbit hole while my car project just sits there haha! This video isn't the ideal way to do it, actually. For plaster investment casting, I would use jewelry wax for sprues, and a vacuum casting machine. Any big car parts should probably be sand cast, but things like metal radio knobs, door handles, hood ornaments could be resin printed for better quality. I've always wanted to make a custom set of cylinder heads or intake manifolds or something, but that's a "one day when I get to it" kind of project, you know? 3d printers and 3d modeling is a great way to get patterns for casting. I would add 3d scanning to that, too. It's not the scale you're talking about, but I scanned a power wheels toy mustang and printed a full new body for it to look like greased lightning (video sometime in the future), so you're in good company here!
      I will say though with sand casting, it's vital you get the gating right to avoid porosity and sand and junk in your metal castings. Good luck and let me know what you're making!

    • @travislawson1185
      @travislawson1185 8 месяцев назад

      @@PaulsGarage I currently have a small part for a vintage racing kart that I'm trying to recreate. It is a small carburetor intake reed valve body that was originally probably die cast aluminum. The part has a rather complex shape as it holds either 4 of 6 metal or fiberglass reeds and stands about 2 inches tall by about 2 inches round at the base. Material wise there is maybe 4-5 oz of aluminum. Originally this part cost $6-$10 in 1966 when it was developed. If you can even find one today that is good usable part, expect to pay north of $100. I know of at least 20 other restorer's actively looking for multiple parts for current projects. Even if I made them in batches of 20 or more at a time, I bet they would sell out quick. I would like to utilize the 3d print to cast method for short runs of parts like this before I dump thousands into a cnc made billet steel die and a pressure casting rig for a $40 part.

  • @RadarLeon
    @RadarLeon Год назад +9

    I still like the idea of making a silicon mold using the pla print, casting in wax or simular other materials then casting a master mold by heating and melting the wax

    • @GeordieT
      @GeordieT Год назад +1

      My preferred method. It also gives you the option to tidy up and smooth those print lines on the wax model before the final cast. If I'm making multiples then I'll silicon mould from the improved wax model. Personally, this is the necessarily long route through the woods I have to take because I'm not a sculptor and rely on the printer to do the hard work. Not sure I'll rush to use Zanak... I think the fumes issue outweighs the convenience for me.

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 3 месяца назад +1

      Use PVA, it's water soluble filament. Skip a step.

  • @johnmccanntruth
    @johnmccanntruth Год назад +1

    Great info. You had me on the edge of my seat waiting for a big bed pour…

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      So about that lathe bed... I have the pattern, I made those big flasks and then (dramatic pause) I realized I didn't have enough casting sand lol. I ordered more and the box just came in yesterday 👍

  • @ProtonFilms_Mark
    @ProtonFilms_Mark Год назад +1

    I've been looking into ways of 3D printing a steering knuckle for my kid's Go Kart. It's got suspension, big wheels and a top speed of just 40kph, so I think it won't hurt giving Zamak a try for that purpose.

  • @matthewellisor5835
    @matthewellisor5835 Год назад +4

    US cent coins since 1982 are 2.5% Copper and balance Zinc. Add in about 10-12% Aluminum and you're in range.
    Don't break any laws.

  • @lundgrenbronzestudios
    @lundgrenbronzestudios Год назад +1

    I've just gotten into Lost PLA, I started using Ovature Black PLA and using an air compressor to blow it the mold after burn out and Its been working really well. I'm going to look into poly cast filament though.
    word to the wise though, those galvanized stove pipe will burn up and oxidize way too fast, you are better off getting a cut off of square tubing or steel pipe. stainless steel if possible.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      Air compressor is the only way I've heard of people successfully cleaning a PLA burnout, but I'm worried some molds might not get clean enough with that. No idea though, never tried.
      And good call about the thicker steel. These pipes don't look too good after use but the temps weren't as high as if I was doing bronze. Eventually I want to do vacuum casting so beefier flasks are totally a must

  • @igoraugusto4629
    @igoraugusto4629 Год назад +2

    I recently thought of molds made with PVA, as it is water soluble, but with PVB it makes more sense mainly because it is easier to print, PVA ends up getting moisture very easily, which makes printing difficult, maybe HIPS would be an option , since it is soluble in delimonene.
    For those who still prefer PLA, Esun has PLA High flow, perhaps because of its ease of melting, it helps in the lost casting process.

  • @AlexanderGee
    @AlexanderGee Год назад +7

    As you sort of mentioned if you do lost PLA you absolutely have to use natural PLA with no colorants.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +2

      Good point, I think as little junk in there to leave ash the better

  • @jerrysanchez5453
    @jerrysanchez5453 Год назад

    Honestly glad I found this channel.its a no bullshit channel so far.pretty neat

  • @extraziadeh
    @extraziadeh Год назад

    Apparently the algorithm has blessed me today by recommending this video. Very cool and interested to try your tips. Thanks!

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      The algorithm has been very kind to me lately

  • @anystrap404
    @anystrap404 Год назад +1

    LOL, your comment on John Snow was fantastic!
    Great advice that I will remember as I start putting together my foundry setup. =]

  • @sweetnightmere
    @sweetnightmere Год назад +2

    you can add silica sand or the red material like on the tennis court in the plaster for better resilience to heat and it doesn't crack as much when you do the burnout. 50/50 proportion sand and plaster

  • @JohnHansknecht
    @JohnHansknecht Год назад +9

    Really cool! I'm starting to lean toward plating pla though. Recent videos show that if you paint it with a conductive graphite paint, it can be plated with nickel, and then other metals like gold on top of the nickel.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +10

      That plating stuff is really awesome. It looks great in my opinion, but the end result is different. I'd rather have a piece that's solid metal, with all the weight, but not everybody is like me.

    • @anthonyleggio4877
      @anthonyleggio4877 Год назад +1

      I recently saw a video of testing different methods of getting a chrome finish on a part and the winner was this chrome nail polish stuff

    • @klausbrinck2137
      @klausbrinck2137 Год назад

      still: 1st plate with copper, then with nickel. Nickel-plating directly isn´t easy...

  • @frikkiesmit327
    @frikkiesmit327 Год назад +1

    Glad i got your video..its something new in this way you shared. And im actually planning on casting something in a lost pla method. I will use pla as its what i have. 😅

  • @dennisyoung4631
    @dennisyoung4631 Год назад +1

    Another idea for burnout containers is sections of Exhaust Pipe, especially stainless exhaust pipe.

  • @parcore2925
    @parcore2925 Год назад

    I love this channel. It reminds me of the RedGreen show, but I learn some real, actual, good tips. Thanks!

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      One day I hope to live up to the example set by red green 🤣

  • @defenestrated23
    @defenestrated23 Год назад

    What an info dump! I got tips for printing, glueing, smoothing, casting, and marital advice!

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Just remember I'm not legally liable if you end up divorced 🤣 my advice *might not* be great

  • @klausbrinck2137
    @klausbrinck2137 Год назад +1

    Aside to the great content, I find you are also very funny, the narration is a joy when someone´s so funny !!!

  • @FeralMoonDesigns
    @FeralMoonDesigns Год назад +3

    Really glad I watched this before I went out to buy the aluminum I was going to get to throw at someone. Now I'll be sure to get Zamak instead 😂

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +2

      Nothing worse than inadequate throwing metals 🤣

    • @FeralMoonDesigns
      @FeralMoonDesigns Год назад

      @@PaulsGarage If I'm going to do a job, I should do it right!

  • @FranklyWry
    @FranklyWry 4 месяца назад +1

    Not dead yet! I must not have been the only one to comment on your slapdash (haven’t seen that word in a while, I bet) methods. Anyway, fun stuff, ya crazy guy.

  • @wilsonmatos6734
    @wilsonmatos6734 Год назад +1

    Please make a complete beginning guide to casting after you do it in ideal conditions. I'm looking to build a casting area in the shop... No idea the full scope of things.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Good idea! That's quite an undertaking, id have to separate it up into sand casting, investment casting, etc... Most people don't do all of it. I've never done ceramic shell casting or vacuum casting for example. But it's a good idea to get it all in one place. That would be a super long video though haha

    • @wilsonmatos6734
      @wilsonmatos6734 Год назад

      @@PaulsGarage that's super fair. I am currently figuring out the melting of metal. I have no idea what a crucible is or where to get/make it. Kiln vs. forge vs. oven etc.
      I will research it once I have a solid project to execute, but this is so niche... The basics are often over looked and everyone kinda starts at step two, and assumes we know step 0 and 1.
      Like can I build a ceramic kiln that can melt steel... It seems like it should be possible... But does anyone actually do it? Why not?

  • @Londrino
    @Londrino Год назад

    I've used MoldLay before with great results. It's the same price as polycast, but it's a wax filament that's easy to print with and melts out of the mold super easily.

  • @stevenstafford1502
    @stevenstafford1502 Год назад +1

    Ive done this before with polysmooth! Works so well.

    • @NM-wd7kx
      @NM-wd7kx Год назад

      How is polysmooth to print with?

    • @stevenstafford1502
      @stevenstafford1502 Год назад

      @@NM-wd7kx If its dry, it prints a lot like PLA but doesnt bridge as well. If its wet? Youre in for a bad time.

  • @MrDiagorasofmelos
    @MrDiagorasofmelos Год назад +2

    Since PVB is dissolved by alcohol, and since plaster does not dissolve alcohol, could we consider clearing the PVB from the plaster in an ethanol bath?

  • @gordoncouger9648
    @gordoncouger9648 9 месяцев назад

    Finally, a Lost Wax casting process using 3D printed patterns that will make parts that work for real-world machines. Hi Point makes their firearms out Zmac ZA-12

  • @NeoIsrafil
    @NeoIsrafil 10 месяцев назад

    If you want another tip, they make burnout resins too for lost RESIN casting from a 3d printer. They cost like 50 bucks a kilo, but they are WORTH IT. The quality is 100 times better than any fdm printer you own.. my fiance and i are doing our wedding rings using it to make a really pretty set of custom rings.

  • @jirvin4505
    @jirvin4505 Год назад

    Looking forward to your further experiments with Polycast. Like to see how it smooths out with pla

  • @TheUpl8te
    @TheUpl8te 9 месяцев назад

    I love the couch comment! I’ve told people for years that a comfortable couch and working 24s was the secret to a long happy marriage.

  • @hotrodderrecycler3202
    @hotrodderrecycler3202 Год назад +2

    Very few coffee brans still use steel for there containers. Chuck Full O'Nuts is one brand.

  • @tannerortmann4187
    @tannerortmann4187 Год назад +2

    Thanks for the video! I never comment on videos but you seem like a decent guy so I wanted to say please, please don't melt zinc alloys in steel/iron alloy containers. Molten zinc acts like a solvent on iron alloys and will dissolve them. You'll lift your soup can from your foundry and have 4lbs of 1,000*F liquid dump out of the bottom. Also, since the steel is dissolved into the alloy, you can have weird pockets of rust develop over time which isn't really a problem for decorative things like you made in the video but if you were to make something structural or for outdoor use it would lead to pockets, bubbles, and weaknesses that you won't know are there until it breaks apart.
    I truly didn't mean to rant, zamak alloys are a life saver for detail work. There are several engine parts that can be great sources of cheap zamak also, carbs and throttle bodies in particular. Thanks again and good luck!

  • @iphoneawesome123
    @iphoneawesome123 Год назад +8

    I don't know if you're in that world at all, but I wonder how this could be used for the 3D2A world. Zamak used to be used in a lot of mass produced Saturday night specials back into he day. With PLA+ already being plenty strong, zamak could be that next step, especially for some frames that need the barrel pinned directly to it.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      No idea what 3D2A even is but if PLA can do it, zamak probably can too

    • @iphoneawesome123
      @iphoneawesome123 Год назад +1

      @@PaulsGarage printing firearms and firearms accessories

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +3

      Ah ok that's pretty cool. I'm more of an archery guy personally 🏹

    • @Preyhawk81
      @Preyhawk81 Год назад

      some HiPoints are made from Zamac except the barrel.@@iphoneawesome123

  • @CPT_IDOL
    @CPT_IDOL Год назад

    LOL! I am a single guy… And that is rule number one for buying a sofa… Always make sure you can lay down on it, and always make sure it’s comfortable enough to sleep on! 👍🏼😎👍🏼

  • @JohnDoe-rx3vn
    @JohnDoe-rx3vn Год назад +1

    Thanks for the heads up on the Zinc alloy, i was going to play with Aluminum Bronze but damn does it have a high melting point

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Aluminum bronze is pretty awesome for sure, but this is super easy

  • @sammaldonado5931
    @sammaldonado5931 Год назад +1

    You just saved my poor mexican ass, where I just can't get good ceramic plaster and resin prints lol. love u man

  • @AgentPothead
    @AgentPothead Год назад

    Foil tape is a little more annoying to use than duct tape. Understatement of the year? It's an early year so maybe. Great videos too, glad the algorithm lead me here.

  • @wardogdauwdd3020
    @wardogdauwdd3020 6 месяцев назад

    Can you do a video on melting zamek or zinc in a lead hotpot useing plaster for a mold

  • @patrickchristie82
    @patrickchristie82 Год назад

    All I can say as thank you! Off to design custom truck emblems!

  • @gendragongfly
    @gendragongfly 9 месяцев назад

    This is great 😃I've looked for easily castable (low temperature) alloys before, but didn't find much worth having. Zamak looks like it's pretty much perfect for most applications, unless weight is really an issue. Zamak 5 is known in the EU as Z410 and has mechanical properties close to 6061 aluminium. By weight it's cheaper but by volume it's around the same price as aluminium (at least from the suppliers that I have access to). Thanks for the great video 😊

  • @howardosborne8647
    @howardosborne8647 Год назад

    Thanks for this really useful info on the Polycast filament and the Zamak alloys. Just the stuff I need for some steam engine castings👍

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Sounds good! Zamak is a bearing alloy too I think, it should work better than aluminum

  • @gregorychaney7604
    @gregorychaney7604 Год назад +2

    That triceratops skull came out Great! For ornamental applications, it's hard to beat Zamak.
    I don't know if you need more gadgets, those castings would have been almost impossible using sand casting.
    Any thoughts about using a pouring basin and tapered sprue setup ?
    Have you picked up the zinc package yet? I wonder how it did in mail. Heavy for its size, not sure if cardboard was up to the task.
    Cheers from Alaska

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Hi Gregory! I did indeed pick up the package yesterday! I think I'll open it on a Livestream.
      I use a pouring basin and tapered sprue for sand casting, and I know VOGman does for investment prints, it's a good idea for sure.

    • @gregorychaney7604
      @gregorychaney7604 Год назад

      Cool.
      Let me know when the livestream happens.

  • @cryd1239
    @cryd1239 Год назад

    I too have that 15 year old t-shirt. What a show.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      It was really good. It's the only time I saw something on Broadway.

  • @rossk7927
    @rossk7927 7 месяцев назад

    I'm immediately curious if you can blue (nope) or anodize (yup, but don't yet know how practice it is to do at home) zamak, or how well it takes a powder coat or what paints will bond the best for a part ment to be handled... I'll dig around, just sharing the thoughts your video prompted 😊

  • @idontwantcorporateretaliat6301

    There's a reason we use wax in "lost wax method". Printing in wax is a pain but back in college we'd dissolve grocery bags in the wax to harden its solid form to prep bronze molds. Point being, try polyethylene filament (grocery bags) and that may be the next best material to wax. Should be inexpensive.

    • @aryez91
      @aryez91 11 месяцев назад

      Could you elaborate on this? Link to filament?

  • @coulterjb22
    @coulterjb22 Год назад

    Love Zamak. Looking forward to the next vid!

  • @PatrickHoodDaniel
    @PatrickHoodDaniel Год назад +1

    Brilliant!!

  • @skyrider4789
    @skyrider4789 Год назад

    Looking forward to the future “ideal” way. Thanks!

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      I'll give you a sneak peak, every part except the burnout material and metal alloy is different 😉

  • @blacktridentgoods
    @blacktridentgoods Год назад +1

    My buddy uses a wax based resin in his resin printer. Casts beautifully

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      a resin printer is definitely on my list. The resolution is amazing

  • @ABaumstumpf
    @ABaumstumpf Год назад +6

    It is always nice to see people discovering decade-old technology when looking to improve their new found technologies.
    Zamak is cheap-ish (not much cheaper than the alternatives anymore), easy to handle, relatively strong.
    Of course it also has its downsides - it is extremely susceptible to contaminations. Ever touched lead with the tongs you use to pick the Zamak? You just contaminated your zamak and it might rot away with just a few years. And while it is strong it loses strength with time and lacks some of the nice-to-have properties other materials have. Aluminium i significantly lighter and corrosion-resistant, iron (yes way harder to melt) is stronger and cheaper, copper has higher electric and thermal conductivity while also being more pliable etc.
    But for pure decorative parts casting Zamak is great.

  • @dr.johnh.watson2444
    @dr.johnh.watson2444 Месяц назад +1

    fun fact Zamak is what hotwheels are made off.

  • @thesweetone
    @thesweetone Год назад +8

    the aluminum tape is the original duct tape. what we normally use is more like duck tape lol

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +3

      I believe that. Aluminum tape is the best. It's even better at slicing your fingers on accident...

    • @aaronmccullough4926
      @aaronmccullough4926 Год назад

      Duct tape was made for sealing ductwork, but it's the only thing it doesn't fix. They just changed the name to duck tape because it sounds the same. The metal adhesive tape is the only one acceptable for ductwork. And yes, it's as thin as most blades, it's like the most aggressive papercut ever if you're not careful

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Год назад +1

      @@aaronmccullough4926 duck tape is called duck tape because it sheds water like a duck. Originally duck tape was developed to seal ammo boxes in the Pacific theater against moisture and it came in the Army's favorite color, olive drab. After the war ex soldiers didn't want to see that color ever again but they liked the tape so the civilian market version was made silver. Duck tape is surgical tape.

    • @newolde1
      @newolde1 Год назад

      If it sticks like a duck..

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Last time I tried using a duck to fix a dryer vent the jerk kept biting me until I let him go. No help at all

  • @robertalston1365
    @robertalston1365 Год назад

    It took me about halfway through the video to see what was on Paul’s sleeve and then I realized it was Monty python Spamalot

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      I'm still not dead yet. Maybe I should cast a holy grail prop replica in aluminum bronze? That would be fun

  • @insight477
    @insight477 3 месяца назад

    When you melt down the Zamak ZA 12 does it burn off any elements or can you still reuse with ease?

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  3 месяца назад

      I've reused the metal a whole bunch of times, no issues. Za12 should only be zinc and aluminum, and i barely heat it up to liquid. Zinc has the reputation for boiling off because brass (copper alloyed with zinc) melts at a temperature *above* zincs boiling point. Keep it barely liquid and it shouldn't boil off at all, certainly not enough to screw up the alloy. Especailly with Za12, because zinc and aluminum aren't very sensitive as an alloy. you can basically have no aluminum or lots of aluminum and everything in the middle is ok, as long as you keep any and all lead as far away as possible.

  • @thedazzlingape2006
    @thedazzlingape2006 Год назад

    another/better alternative to cast your investment into:
    instead of steel investment tubes, try PVC pipe or drainage segments, cut them to shape and give them a cut right down the center from end to end, tape the cut up and put your casting blank on a piece of tape and tape it to seal the bottom.
    after the plaster has become dry-wet, untape it and work the center split to release the whole mould from the PVC and then without waiting or using another tube, you can just keep going making more moulds from one piece of tube.
    and best of all, you never have to "clean out the plaster"
    when I started I did this simply using the caps of my tiny torch refill cans. so any flexible straight piece of tube plastick will work.
    maybe you dnt even need to spend a dime!

  • @thatren7179
    @thatren7179 Год назад +1

    Have you tried printing with wax filament? Would be interesting to see the differences between the two.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Hey that's a pretty good idea for a video right there

  • @fernandoandaluz2281
    @fernandoandaluz2281 Год назад

    Thanks for the whole walkthrough bro, now I know. Legit

  • @SuperSeaguard
    @SuperSeaguard Год назад

    You can also smooth the polycast with a Polysher or just plain Isopropyl alcohol

  • @sierraecho884
    @sierraecho884 Год назад +1

    Here is a nother tip if you want to use aluminium. Use the right kind. There are casting alloys and wrought alloys. Casting alloy is found in hard drives fro example. It flows a lot better since it´s optimized for this task.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Very true. I'm skipping the scrap step entirely from now on for casting that I want to be good. Buying certified ingots. I'm not giving up my scrap stash just yet though...

    • @sierraecho884
      @sierraecho884 Год назад

      @@PaulsGarage Well you could bring your crap to a scrap yard and get some money for it which you can use to buy proper aluminium instead but of course this is entirely up to you. Just saying it is a possibility.

  • @SporadicUploads1
    @SporadicUploads1 Год назад +1

    Notes on the ZA alloy casting, it is toxic and can make you sick if you get the zinc oxide dusty vapors, also ZA27 is mechanically tough like for cutting or drilling, much harder to drill through than mild steel, its just zinc and aluminum.

    • @Preyhawk81
      @Preyhawk81 Год назад

      zink alloys melt under 500C if you dont heat to 900C you are fine

  • @joshuadelisle
    @joshuadelisle Год назад

    Brilliant thanks 👍. Cheers J

  • @spudnickuk
    @spudnickuk Год назад +1

    Thank you for showing,I do have a quest, could you Try Esun Emate low Temp PCL filament for casting, as you can melt it at 65C but would love to know if it would be any good. as it prints pefectly with no layer lines.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      Great suggestion! I've never heard of that filament. Ive used esun black pla and its great for the price.

    • @spudnickuk
      @spudnickuk Год назад

      @@PaulsGarage I love Esun Products, and to say Mainly I use the PLA + for tools
      I hope to have a go at casting using Esun Emate low temp as much cheaper than Polycast

  • @maarkaus48
    @maarkaus48 Год назад

    Black pipe works too and you can get different sizes for it. Less nickle coating on it.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Hey that's a good idea. Black pipe is tougher too

    • @maarkaus48
      @maarkaus48 Год назад

      @@PaulsGarage Thank you. Its from experience. My mom was a silversmith/goldsmith and we did lots of casting together. we used black pipe (large,) with jeweler casting. We used a terrifying centrifuge to fire the molten gold/silver into the material at an impossibly high speed. I don't recommend that to the casual user as you can spray molten gold everywhere. Exciting? Yes, but not safe.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      @@maarkaus48 I've seen those things and I'm definitely going to pass on that! I'm going to build/buy/something a vacuum casting set up though

  • @scatdawg1
    @scatdawg1 Год назад

    Man this is a great video filled with non-stop useful information thank you for your service 🙏

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Thanks! Glad to ramble non stop, extra glad it's useful!

  • @SV_Try_Magic
    @SV_Try_Magic Год назад +1

    That stuff is super expensive and Ive used it several times. I started just using the cheapest clear stuff I could find and making the walls and supports as minimal as possible.

  • @galileofrank5779
    @galileofrank5779 Год назад

    Great video! but wouldn't a different alloy be better for making functional parts that need to survive higher temperatures?

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Yes definitely. People use this to make bronze stuff too, that can handle far higher temperatures. Maybe special plaster could handle iron too? But definitely not plaster of Paris

  • @joshmellon390
    @joshmellon390 Год назад

    I use this lightweight PLA for printing RC airplane stuff. Well, it basically prints out styrofoam, and I wonder if it would work for burning out molds.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Not sure. That stuff expands a lot right? I would be worried about it expanding too much and cracking the mold. Do you print the 3D lab print stuff? I have a few of those models, they are really cool

  • @TonyZXT
    @TonyZXT Год назад +1

    Can you give a quick and dirty guestimate of what it would cost, equipment wise to do this on the cheaper end, but not so cheap I'd end up buying better equipment soon after? No need to take the time break it down, just in the ballpark is fine. Assuming all I already have is a printer. TIA, Great info!

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Hard to put an exact number on it but at minimum you need something to burn out the mold and something to melt the metal. One foundry furnace set up from an Amazon seller like vevor might work as long as you keep temperatures low, but a devil forge would be a step up. You could use the furnace for both like I did here. Plaster, filament, and the steel vents/soup cans etc... Are expendable, though, so prices go up the more you do it. Ideally you would have a small electric furnace to melt the metal and a small burnout oven, but prices go up considerably

  • @Calamity-Spice
    @Calamity-Spice 3 дня назад

    Zamak is called Mazak in the UK.

  • @eror151
    @eror151 2 месяца назад

    Would this process work with silver or metals that have to get to a higher temperature?

  • @thaddeusrobinson6866
    @thaddeusrobinson6866 9 месяцев назад +1

    I feel obliged to echo what others have said: ZINC RELEASES DEADLY FUMES WHEN HEATED! DO NOT CAST OR FORGE ANYTHING WITH ZINC INDOORS!

  • @Festivaljunkie
    @Festivaljunkie Год назад +1

    could one say cast a frame for a quadcopter that could be finished in a cnc or a jig/drill press?

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      Probably yes. Lots of those kinds of parts are cast, though they tend to be die cast for production purposes. You would probably want aluminum though to save weight and that doesn't flow as nicely into details, but you can get around that in a couple ways

  • @Scrap2Cast
    @Scrap2Cast Год назад

    Hey Paul! Been a sub for a long time and I gotta say, love your vids brother! Thanks for sharing the info in this video. Definitely going to try your method! 🙂👊🏼👍🏼🍻

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      Thanks and good luck!

    • @Scrap2Cast
      @Scrap2Cast Год назад

      @@PaulsGarage thanks, I’ll definitely need it!

  • @Kaimelar8
    @Kaimelar8 Месяц назад

    Would a water soluble PVA also work for this technique?

  • @deucedeuce1572
    @deucedeuce1572 Год назад

    They also sell wax filament. Every try that? (I've been wondering if it's worth buying or not, but by your description of the PLA ash that's left behind, it might be.)

  • @mrmollusk7367
    @mrmollusk7367 Год назад +1

    Are burnout resins expensive because they are more expensive to produce, or is it just not as in demand?

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      For resins I'm not sure, but this filament is probably more expensive because it's a niche product, so volumes are lower, there are no fillers that would benefit the printing process because those might leave ash, and there is higher quality control. At least that's what the marketing says. Who knows if its true lol it does work though

  • @BuckF0eJiden
    @BuckF0eJiden 10 месяцев назад +1

    The poly cast stuff is actually pretty strong by itself, too. I have a few 3d prints I'd planned on casting for an AR15 (foregrips and the like) that I just decided to keep as the plastic as they've held up to some decent abuse as they are.

  • @Bartspar68
    @Bartspar68 Год назад

    Hey Paul,, 7 min's in and I hit the subscribe button,, I like your style and your explinations..

  • @pepetrincado
    @pepetrincado 10 месяцев назад

    Helo Paul, some thing still i dont undestand... did you put the printed piece under water before you fill out the mold with metal casting? i know the PVA material cab be diluted on water but in your video i didnt saw that part, or maybe you replaced the PVA with the metal directly? whatever, thanks for your video!

  • @Starganderfish
    @Starganderfish Год назад +3

    Came across an interesting take on this idea from HEN3DRIK (ruclips.net/video/OYgn3tsJRWg/видео.html)
    1) Print the part in PVB like you did (smooth if you want)
    2) Electroplate the print in Copper
    3) Soak the part in IPA for a day or two will the PVB dissolves completely and your left with a very thin Copper "mould"
    4) Melt your metal (he used Tin which has an even lower melting point that requires no smelting or furnace at all but you could use the Zamak if you wanted)
    5) Pour the molten metal in the copper mould (copper melting point is well over 1000 degrees so it will be fine)
    ^) Allow to cool and you have a solid metal piece with the ultra-clean electroplated Copper exterior, which can be further plated with Nickel, Chrom, Silver, Gold etc.

    • @Information_Seeker
      @Information_Seeker Год назад

      there's also vacuum casting which I've seen done DIY with a homemade vacuum chamber and pump, thus pulling the metal into all the fine details of even small items such as rings

    • @Starganderfish
      @Starganderfish Год назад

      @@Information_Seeker oh! I like that idea as well!! I've seen people doing professional casting often use a vacuum table to pull th emolten metal into the moulds.

  • @2allbclear
    @2allbclear Год назад

    Rotometals has your video linked on their ZA-12 product page. Time to ask for some metal.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      Lol they asked permission to do that, and also sent me a surprise box with a t-shirt and stuff already because their sales went up. Rotometals rules. I'll be opening the box on stream probably next weekend. It's HEAVY

  • @Jacobk-g7r
    @Jacobk-g7r 8 месяцев назад

    Just had an idea. Use magnetic fields to hold up metal in a specific shape so the material in particle or fluid form can be held in a form. Then use electricity to weld the parts together because conductivity. Use ai so it can see the magnetic fields and send material into the mold. Hypothetically, you could use a medium and rotation to aid in the particles aim and integration plus use other forms of magnetism and force from the rotation of the medium to build more intricate structures and systems.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  8 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds like a cool idea! I knew a guy who used to work with plasma and said he used magnetic fields to shape and contain the plasma, very cool stuff. I'm not sure how you would shape the magnetic field in the tiny details, to my limited understanding the fields used currently stick to simple shapes like toruses but I could be wrong

  • @twentystarseven
    @twentystarseven Год назад +1

    Love your videos but I’m apparently extremely lazy. I bought some pvb minutes after watching this video. I placed my print directly into my molding sand and burned it out. Then poured a perfect casting with silver. You should try it.

  • @mattiasfagerlund
    @mattiasfagerlund Год назад

    If you only had one furnace, could you burn out the plastic then fill the mold with shot (small pieces of the casting metal) and let it melt inside the mold, or would that not work?

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад +1

      That might work, not sure though.

  • @dougsbir
    @dougsbir 5 месяцев назад

    can you melt that metal on the hob or in an electric tandoor oven?

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  5 месяцев назад

      No, it needs a bit higher temperature. Closer to 500c/900f to cast it

  • @AlwaysCensored-xp1be
    @AlwaysCensored-xp1be Год назад

    Yet another reason to try Zinc alloys. Always wanted to do white metal model trains. This plastic and Zamak might be better. I found white metal a little soft.

  • @littlebro7839
    @littlebro7839 Год назад

    If you hadn’t poured directly into the mould I.e. a pour basin and the turbulence thing you have do you think it would have filled a lot better?

  • @davib8963
    @davib8963 Год назад

    I bought a lot of PVB spools recently to experiment with. One thought was to try a silicone mold over a print, then dissolving the internal form with isopropyl over a month or so through a channel of some kind- I imagine it will not be quick. Could be totally bone headed, though i'd like to try it.

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      You never know until you try it out!

    • @eelcohoogendoorn8044
      @eelcohoogendoorn8044 Год назад +1

      I did try various experiments of this form; for parts that are hollow it will work decent; but if you have solidly printed detail bits with a high length/width ratio it can take very long. Also, how well this dissolving works strongly depends on temperature (and also moisture; do not use wet alcohol). Ive kept it in a slow cooker under the boiling point with good results, it cast with some really nice detail using zamak.

  • @HeliosFire9ll
    @HeliosFire9ll Год назад

    How does this process compare to resin prints and lost wax casting? Could you make rings, etc from this technique?

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Год назад

      The burnout and casting process is exactly the same. Whatever you can print with polycast filament (or castable resin), you can cast in metal. Layer lines come through though, so beware of that. Polycast smooths with alcohol (IPA) which helps. I have some more recent videos with lost resin casting, all using plaster, but FDM prints might be better with ceramic shell casting, since that works better for larger prints. Not saying you can't use plaster, but the plaster can get expensive in large quantities

  • @qoohenqoo
    @qoohenqoo Месяц назад

    Would bronze and silver work with this same method?

    • @PaulsGarage
      @PaulsGarage  Месяц назад

      Yes! I've heard silver has some issues with detail but this is indeed how jewelers do it

  • @AlexanderTzalumen
    @AlexanderTzalumen Год назад

    On, not to forget about this re:zamak
    It's nice and conductive, so it electroplates easily