Spottedleaf is USELESS (Warrior Cats)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Spottedleaf is just one of those cats that not many people feel strongly about, and it makes complete sense.
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I never thought about that, but Lionheart would have been such a good spirit guide for Fireheart! 💕
I’m currently making the first arc into episodes, any tips on how I can make Spottedleaf’s character better? If the prophecies aren’t very helpful should I cut them out? How can I make her a more likable character?
Should I potentially replace her with another StarClan cat who might deliver a prophecy better from time to time? Like what if Lionheart did give a prophecy, or maybe Redtail or Oakheart, Spottedleaf could still be there but it wouldn’t be every single time. And if he did see the spirits of the cats he’s chasing the truth about solving the mystery around their death - would that be cool?
Maybe make her relationship with FireHeart make more sense, like have them interact more, and help eachother while she’s alive. Make them atleast start realizing their feelings for eachother before she dies, and make their feelings make sense. If that won’t work for some reason, just make her a better guide, and cut out the love story all together
@@Zack-eq3ou I’m already on Book 3 - Forest of Secrets at this point :) So I can’t really go back to when she was alive, except in flashbacks, which could be possible. If Spottedleaf is meant to be a source of longing, he could remember a day that he spent with her that grew their connection when she was alive. Maybe he could have a conversation about it with someone, that could bring up this flashback.
Hi pinkbunnygirl43, I was wondering if I could do some voice acting for your lps warrior cats videos? I am a really big fan and your lps costom videos were what got me interested in warrior cats to begin with. I have already messaged you on amino and would love it if you got back to me. I'm always free. If you do decide to have me, just message me on amino and I would be so happy to do it :)
@@pinkbunnygirl43 can I voice act aswell?
I never of thought of that, but it’s a great idea!
Spottedleaf's main purpose is to pop up in dreams and show off her perfume.
She's the Erin's perfume sponsorship
mMmMmmMmMmMmmM *the sweet smell of spottedleaf*
Oh wow I got a heart from Akira... wowwww thanks!
XD
Lol......good point
Firepaw: Oh, Spottedleaf! Are you here to tell me who killed you?
Spottedleaf: No. Why would I do that?
That one moonkitti video perfectly summarizes this.
Ok but can we talk about the new cat designs? Like, these new designs are awesome! Missy Dakota did a wonderful job on them! And I can definitely see improvement in her art.
oh no akira has been infected by the RUclips statistics thing too
Ikr it's so annoying
@@swiatalicji9544 ye
They should have just made her evil
I agree!!!!!!!!
Yes.
YES!
"Spottedleaf is useless"
Evil spottedleaf fans (aka me): h o l d m y s t i c k
'Holds stick' Yes?
@@roibiiin wheeze
@@peckneckanimations Lol
Finally I found a comment Actually defending her
Didn't really understand the story, but yeah, a fan-
I absolutely love Spottedleaf
My god I love spottedleaf she is one of my favourite characters in warriors I love reading about her
My candles are made out of Spottedleaf’s fur
I love Spottedleaf and she isn’t useless
“SpottedLeaf is useless”
SpottedLeaf being my favorite medicine cat besides LeafPool :Ehe…I’m in danger
You know the drill.
Month (prefix)
1. Cinder
2.breeze
3.tiger
4.leaf
5.Cloud
6. Crow
7.Dewy
8.spotted
9.fire
10.swift
11.Blue
12.Primrose
Day (suffix)
1.leaf
2.star
3.paw
4.kit
5.star
6.Fur
7.frost
8.wing
9. Your a rogue,you dont get a suffix. NOOB.
10.leap
12.foot
13.light
14.heart
15.claw
16. Eye
19.tail
20.wing again
21. Rogue again (shut up im running out of ideas)
22. I’m renaming you to a kittypet called Fluffy
23. Kittypet named bite
24. Pelt
25. Pool
26.Moon
27.clan cat,but former loner/rogue/kittypet who kept their name. (Choosable!)
28. Choosable clan name!
29.Berry
30.Randomise your name sucka! Any rank.
31. Same as 30
I’m tigerstar hehe. Pls dont name yourself scourge if you get a pick >:c
I would like a Spottedleaf scented candle
wait who was Spottedleaf again
Moonkitti posted vs Bga posted
Me: *villager noises*
No no nooo she ain’t useless she creates a love triangle between firestar,sandstorm and spottedleaf 😂
Spottedleaf's only purpose is to cause drama between Firestar and Sandstorm. Change my mind.
Shes in 10 scenes and now shes an ulmighty cat who delivers prophecy to Fireheart
Tbh if I wanted to help someone I *would* give them misleading information and watch them struggle. It’s fun.
fun fact without spottedleaf the series wouldn’t exist because she told the fire will save the clan prophecy 👍
4:28 yeah obviously she’s not gonna tell him what’s about to happen. She warns him so he can prepare. It makes the story better, rather then saying (this is an example) “fire heart, you’re going to die because tiger claw will kill you byeeeeee” that’d make the story boring af
And lionheart would do the SAME THING.
Can u do another challenge video ?
Spotted leaf was useful in some parts of the story ya can’t just kick her out. She’s a nice cat who was good with herbs she also protected a cat from claw face so….ThErE! (Listen I didn’t read the whole series only three books, so I may be wrong..but I still stand strongly for people or in this case “cats’ “. Also your a great RUclipsr keep up the good work!😎😺🌸
I knew Akira liked roast things but WHEWWWWW she lit Spotty on f i r e
Just like that vinyl firgue
I wish the Spotted/Fire relationship was more of like a sibling connection. I think it would have been nice for Firepaw to connect to Spottedleaf because he misses his sister, Princess, and for Spottedleaf to connect to Firepaw while she mourns Redtail.
It would have worked so much better.
That is such an interesting suggest! It would have been awesome!
making an au based off this now- in my au tho they have a mother/son or mentor/apprentice relationship instead of a creepy med cat x kit relationship
I think she died too quickly. If she would've stayed alive for longer, there might've been room for more character development.
Spottedleaf has character development? W h a t?
@@munchkinchalateo I think they mean she died too soon in the first arc. Like she was there then dead. No purpose at all.
Yeah she was like "hi, ok imma treat ravenpaw then die" and firestar is like "oh u smell nice me loves uUuuUuu"
I don’t think she would of gotten any if she lived longer..her entire personality in the books was “wow new kitty pet boy 😍🥺❤️❤️❤️ also I smell nice” and I don’t think it would of improved if she lived longer
Yes
Okay so I feel like Firestar’s weird love for her is so strange and out of no where. Like, he saw her once and was like “oh, she’s pretty and smells nice” and then they have like two or three conversations and then she dies. How in the world are you madly in love with this person for years?!
Well, he was lso always looking for excuses to see Spottedleaf. He was definitely in love with her for a while, and her sudden death probably hit him hard because he had wanted much more chances to be with her. But then she kept appearing in his dreams and he probably felt a special bond with her because she is probably very comforting to see because he probably feels longing to be with her. Firestar did love her.
@ELLIE DOUGLAS Yeah, at first it felt a lot like a simple childhood crush but then it never went away. XD
Ever heard of love at first sight?
I always hated the fact that Firestar could never get over Spottedleaf. Like dude, you knew her for like two, three months and you STILL would have trouble deciding between her and Sandstorm, the cat who's been your mate for years. Also I agree that Firestar should have been guided by Lionheart, or even Redtail since it was Redtail's death Firestar was trying to figure out and bring justice to.
Spottedleaf’s only purpose: firestar’s hot ghost wife
A ghost wife? For me?
Wait, where is Fire Star
You smell pretty
@@kittenbluetail190 haha preeeeettty
@@chrysalisshard huh?
I feel that Spottedleaf in a way hurts Firestar. She doesn't let Firestar move on with his life and does it impact Firestar and Sandstorm as a couple? Who knows? I still don't understand how Firestar needed Spottedleaf killed off to know that Sandstorm is a much better choice
Cats go meow
@@gamingkitten47 Meow meow
@@Mc_Qiqi ikr meow meow
@@gamingkitten47 Meow meow mew mew
@@Mc_Qiqi meow meow the 2nd
Honestly, despite the fact that he died so quickly without meeting Firepaw, I think even Redtail would have been a better guide choice. Besides Ravenpaw, (and maybe Graypaw) Firepaw was the only one who knew the truth about Redtails death. It would make sense if Redtail tried to help Firepaw bring Tigerclaw to justice for his crimes. That and we could have gotten to know more about the dead deputy and what he was like. Other than in his weird and continuity error riddled novella, there isn't really any character to this supposedly great cat at all. Of course, that's just my opinion, I just wish Redtail's debt was better written.
Yeah! Like, I guess I'd count main series books over canon, but in Redtail's debt, I guess whoever wrote it didnt realize that rocks actually killed Oakheart, not Redtail.
It’s because fire heart rly crushed on her A.k.a. everything she says he’ll listen to
she
@@haxozr isn't red tail a he?
The first series isn’t the only time she appears she also appears as thunder clans medicine, cat in bluestars, prophecy at the end
When you see the title roasting a medicine cat, you know you’re in the right place.
Hello other sand wing
@@sushistudios5627 Ah, I see another SandWing has left Pyrrhia
LMAO YES-
I think she's just a badly executed stereotypical, ethereal female spirit guide. I feel like she should have laid off when Sandstorm became Firestars mate. At least Graystripe was officially mates with Silverstream, so he has a right to miss her.
Spottedleaf has nothing going for her, really. She's pretty, and that's all I can say for her. She's kind of just...there. She's a standard StarClan cat who's only purpose is giving useless, vague prophecies and is a simp for Firestar.
Totally agree. At least other star clan cats have you know, personalities. If somebody asked me to describe spotted Lief’s personality I really don’t think I could.
"if she breathes she-" wait spottedleaf's not breathing, i can't use that
Spottedleafs only purpose was to make thunderclan smell nice
@@bloopthecat5181 Spottedleaf is the owner (And only worker but we won't talk about that) of Thunder clan's Local Perfume store :P
true.. but you gotta admit it was pretty sad when she died- like faded away forever
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I almost forgot Spottedleaf, but then she randomly pops in into books and I'm ragiiiiiiing!
isn't she dead? I'm in the middle of the second boom lol
@@TopazDoesArt she is, but the dead cats can visit the living in dreams.
@@icarussarts oh like with starclan and stuff?
@@TopazDoesArt yeppe.
"beware a warrior who doesn't sleep." Why do I think that would be a perfect prophecy for like an evil Mothwing-
Omgosh yas
@@bloopthecat5181 lolz
Nono, it’s obvious that it means Spottedleaf keeps Fireheart from sleeping
Fun fact: moonkitti and Akira posted at the same time
😶
Spottedleaf got _so_ screwed over by the writers, yeah. Genuinely she's one of the characters that'd be easiest to write out for a movie adaptation. Like seriously, they could just give Bluestar the prophecy dream and have a missing medicine cat or something and the Yellowfang plot-point could still likely go off without a hitch. She had so much potential but was never allowed to live up to any of it! Whichever of the Erins decided that "character depth" means "was groomed since the tail-end of kithood by Thistleclaw to be his future m8" needs to know they did NOT help Spottedleaf not be boring and underdeveloped to people!
Honestly I think she would have been a widely loved character if she was just a normal, kind medicine cat like Cinderpelt. The whole Firestar-romance thing has no reason to exist and the books would have managed just fine without it.
Yeah, I actually really like Cinder 1. (You'll understand if you read far enough) she is just normal and kind. Yeaa, I knowwww, after a while she got Yellowfang's Character and stuff, but I quite like her.
I hate the topic, genuinely, but Spottedleaf’s heart shows some horrible things done to her. Unknowingly, she repeats the behaviour. I’d prefer if nothing of this had happened in the first place, but it makes sense. Spottedleaf was pretty oblivious to thistles behaviour, so it makes sense to, on accident, do this to Firepaw until he became Firestar and continue the cycle. It’s disgusting, but true.
Yeah I also didn’t like it when they made cinderpelt have a crush on firestar THEY ARE APPRENTICE AND MENTOR AND I THINK WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY
Spottedleaf, aka the stalker Marie Sue. Her character would have been incredibly interesting If she was actually secretely evil, or If she became evil. It would have explained many things, and It would have fairly justified her second departure. What a missed chance.
Yes! The authors have bluestar telling her off I believe in the second arc somewhere saying his kits arnt hers and needs to stop being so hands on in matters involving them. Can you imagine what spottedleafs heart would have been like if we see her trying to sabotage firestar and sandstorms relationship? It would have given a new impact when she shields sandstorm in the battle with the dark forest cats. Like a redemption scene.
@@catandrobbyflores A redemption arc. See, even this idea is interesting. Really, too much wasted potential here.
Plus the evil spottedleaf aus would have become canon
@@bloopthecat5181 I think we never saw an actually evil medicine cat. The most we've ever seen was that one that killed Moonflower, though he wasn't exactly "evil" and in any case not by medicine cats standards, but by warriors stardards. A medicine cat, that exclusively trained has a medicine cat, truly gifted in his/her job and with a profound connection with Starclan... that turned "evil", using his/her power and influence over his/her clan mates would have been unique. A stalker powerful, respected and manipulative like Spottedleaf would have been also terrifying. She could have easily been a mastermind behind many tragedies, like the one involving Hollyleaf. She could have been a female Ashfur, only stronger and everlasting - until her redemption arc. I would gladly read something like this.
@@chichi77tim its lowkey sad that we cant have an evil medicine cat like what if a medicine cat didnt have connections with starclan but instead the dark forest. That would be cool
If Spottedleaf didn’t exist:
•Another medicine cat would have to be alive in Into The Wild, maybe Featherwhisker?
•Firepaw wouldnt have any other love interests besides Sandstorm
•Clawface could kill another cat instead of Spottedleaf
•Sandstorm wouldn’t be mad at Firestar in Firestar’s Quest
•Someone else could be the main prophecy deliverer of StarClan (Lionheart? Bluestar? Yellowfang?)
So, she really doesn’t have any use at all.
Featherwhisker would've been a great character to have taken Spottedleaf's place. And instead of being his waifu he could be like a father figure and spirit guide to Firepaw/heart/star.
He's caring and understanding and would maybe give an incentive for Firestar not to be the perfect protagonist from the beginning.
Apparently according to someone who asked what would have changed on Blog clan, Cinderpelt would have most likely been like Briarlight in that she would have stayed in the medicine den without being a medicine cat, and Yellowfang would have simply been an elder (If I remember correctly)
I partially agree with this. The Spottedleaf’s Heart Spottedleaf is actually interesting. But in the main series I think she is just horrible. She distracts Firestar from Sandstorm, and then she is just killed off completely in the Last Hope. Such a missed opportunity.
Bright guardian akira : * Uploads a video *
Me : * breaks mousepad from clicking on it so hard *
rip
I'm on mobile
she was sooo weird when she and firepaw kinda were like “i like u” to each other, he was an apprentice, she was a full on med cat, it was so creepy and i swear he has a mate now and its sandstorm, its just so BAD
Read spottedleafs heart! It’ll all make sense.
@@raygun1177 its because she was groomed by Thistleclaw right? I think they could explore this fact, like spottedleaf becomes a pedo because she was groomed when she was a kit and nobody said her this was wrong, but i think is not what they did here
Anyone realized that SPottedleaf was 4 years old when she "fell in love" with firepaw, and he was only a few moons?
spottedleafs heart says a bit more about why. this doesnt ofc make her behaviour any better though.
well, it wasnt her fault, she didnt know better, as thistleclaw showed her, "oh, yes, this is normal fine! totally normal fine!" and when she did realise, firepaw was like, "COME BACK I WANT KISSES" without letting her stay at peace. firestar's fault. it doesnt excuse her actions, but she didnt understand what she was doing.
I think spottedleaf was introduceed then killed off to show firepaw(and the reader) that this was no longer his calm soft kittypet life. There was going to be deaths, fights and heartbreak. To show him that he was going to be put through a lot. Back in his kittypet life he never had to worry about his friends dying but as a clan that's something he needs to learn.
*Me:* sees the title
*Also Me:* Yes.. yes she is
Alright, let me get the 3rd category straight. The memes are correct though.. Firepaw - Firestar does usually choose Spottedleaf over Sandstorm a lot of times. He usually only uses Sandstorm for motivation.. and yes, I'm going there, a distraction from Spottedleaf. Firestar does love Sandstorm, we're all sure of that, but will she ever replace Spottedleaf?
The cons sure outweigh the pros. Sandstorm deserves better.
Spottedleaf: The official Firestar simp
Firestar: The official Spottedleaf simp
Sandstorm now is evil
If I could rewrite Warriors, I probably would’ve had Redtail be the spirit who guides Firestar. Sunstar showed Redtail how he doesn’t have to worry about Tigerstar when Rusty came to ThunderClan, so I think he’d want to be there to help guide Firestar on the right track
I was in the 'hate her' camp on the poll. She serves no purpose and she _JUST!_ *_WONT!_* *_LEAVE!!!_*
My fav scene is when she dies!
@Wowie Zowie The one where she forever dies,because when you re-read her first one,you know she gonn be in all his dreams
She's honestly nothing more than a stalker who kept pushing herself on to a man who was significantly younger than her and who was actively happily married, going as far as watching his children. She had no need to be his guide at all, and it should've been Redtail (Or Lionheart). Her novella is disowned by the fandom, and she's useless in general. This is why I can't stand her.
I really hated Spottedleaf. She was a very minor character while she was alive. All she did was give herbs to Firepaw. And when she was a ghost, she only delivered prophecies and even though she was one of the main cats in Starclan, felt like she only went to him in his dreams, not for the sake of thunderclan, but just to see him. I never really saw her as a romantic partner for Firestar either. 4:25,
If this is true, I feel like if that was Spottedleaf’s goal, she could’ve just not gone to him in the first place. Showing how that her goal just might be to see Fireheart.
She was just a good smelling ghost homewrecker in my eyes
Is it bad that I kind of wanted her to die so she didn’t get closer to firestar? Idk but for some reason that’s how I feel
@@ameera.munshey I agree 100% believe me
@@ameera.munshey , I honestly wanted Spottedleaf to die too, or at least disappear. Good thing that happened in the last hope XD
Honestly if her goal was just prophecies why not give them to a medicine cat?? She was only seeing fireheart for them for personal reasons.
Yep, Spottedleaf honestly had a lot of potential, but ended up being an absolute trashbag of a character due to poor writing choices, she was killed off too early and we hardly even got any indications that Firepaw liked her before she died,,, her book, (spottedleaf's heart) is also an absolute wreck, not touching on the sensitive subjects but she has so much leaps in character, once she's mature, next childish, and she's supposedly young too, which makes her character in Firestar's quest even WEIRDER considering how strange it already is, there are times where we can actuslly like her and there are timed where she just sucked, she's a jumbled up mess of a character and i wish they put more effort into writing her because honestlyi felt like she could've been a great cat if they had tried harder,,, it's a shame she just went into waste...
I also think that her appearance in leafpool's wish is absolutely useless and unnecessary? She's everywhere in places that are most unneeded which just makes her more frustrating and annoying.
Just some personal opinions though, once again, great video Akira, you go girl!
Look, I'm a 13 years old, I just started to real the first series (I'm at vol. 4) and I don't think that any character has a bad character. So, I can say that I like Spottedleaf. I won't change my opinion.
@Peaches Thanks, buddy! I'm glad that are some people having different opinions! P.S. I tried to write "read", but my autocorrector changed it.
Firestar: Has a mate who stuck by his side and had his kits.
Also Firestar: wOaH mY cHiLdHoOd CrUsH wHo I bArElY tAlKeD tO wHiLe ShE wAs AlIvE lOoKs QuItE hOt.
The video the fandom waited 17 years for
Quiet rage actually made a very similar one last spring this was a good video don't get me wrong but quiet needs more love
If Spotted ever gets a plushie it better be scented
Conspiracy theory: The creators only write Spottedleaf's heart to make Spottedleaf more relevant or to make us pay more attention yo her
What does Spottedleaf do? Well she um like I forget. I just can't remember? Was important? Ohhhhh that's right! She stole all the Bath and Body Works fragrance mists and lotions!
Yes she does
You know I realized that most likely most of the people subscribed to people have their subscriptions private and that graph I think has its subscriptions be only the public ones.
Akira: Spottedleaf is useless!
Me: *always has been*
the world wasn't ready to have Fireheart crushing on the big buff Lionheart
"Spottedleaf needs a novella"
I want to know the reason for misleading firestar/heart. I want to understand her feelings. We need more than a cat that shows off her perfume. she could have/ had so much potential
She has a novella, Spottedleaf’s Heart
@@spyritsolz that shouldn't count.
@@spyritsolz Shhh... we don't talk about that here 😔🤚
But yes, (to everyone saying that Spottedleaf’s Heart doesn’t count) it WAS crappy and disgusting in my opinion. There are some people who don’t consider it canon, and that’s totally fine, but when addressing canon as whole, (as far as I know) Spottedleaf’s Heart is still canon. Therefore it should be acknowledged when discussing things that revolve around characters that appeared in and/or were influenced by the book, whether you want it to be canon or not.
But I totally agree that Spottedleaf’s Heart sucked. I was just pointing out that it existed. I hope I don’t come across as rude or anything, this is just what I think lol
@@spyritsolz no worries!
I really loved Spottedleaf...
I mean Spottedleaf shows up randomly from The New Prophecy to when she dies. I think the Erins just put her in cause they think she is a popular character.
Last time I was this early people still shipped Fire x Spotted
Wow that must be a while ago
I know this is totally off topic but-
KOKICHIIIIIIIII
@@fenicklawz6817 h e h e
Why is there three yt’ers uploading in the same 40 secs?
It's because you can schedule uploads on youtube. They probably just selected the same hour.
Moon and Akira planned it
It was all a conspiracy created by Blue berry muffins and Baked beans
@@roibiiin yeah. Yeah they did.
Spottedleaf honestly is my favorite character... I don't know why but she is
Exactly she's a pretty cat
The shippers aren’t gonna like this one.
Yep... I’m a shipper annnnnd I went nuts😶😑
@@piffny6666 Same, if this video was posted when I was first getting into the series, I would’ve gone BALLISTIC XD
@@onionmanpriority ha! Yeah😅😏
when spottedleaf was first introduced i thought, "well, since we dont know much about her theres still lots of room for character development." but then she was killed off and i just, i was so incredibly dumbfounded and then she just wouldnt. go. away. and i got so sick of her
The only reason I believe Spottedleaf was in the medicine den is because we needed a medicine cat before Yellowfang
Yes, she's just there to be a pretty little Kitty ghosty wifey
Day 10 of calling Akira Queen bc thats what she is!!!!
I thought Akira was a boy-
@@carissaewhite she came out as trans back in may!!!
I feel Spotted leaf excited for the sole purpose of making Thistle claw the bad guy. Other than that, she existed, was trying to glue herself to Fire continuously but failing miserably, died and died again. That's it, that's literally Spotteds life and you can't change my mind.
Come on Akira my man.. you hate every warrior cat lmao.
im kinda angry
SPOTTEDLEAF IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE CHARATERS :(
I hate Spottedleaf for a lot of reasons. One, she's annoying on so many different levels. Her character in both Into the Wild and Spottedleaf's heart is pretty much either a brat or a sweet annoying little wimp. Two, her whole relationship with Thistleclaw is creepy. He's a warrior. She was an apprentice. NOT OK! And finally, she makes she-cats look weak and powerless! If all your gonna be known for is a sweet smell and a pretty face, than why do you exist? My modo is: some girls turn heads but the best girls break necks. And, Spotted is the opposite of that message. I had a huge smile on my face when Mapleshade ripped her open!
Didnt brackenfur and fernpaw have a relationship starting after she nearly died after her mentor tries to kill her?
Tbf her relationship with Thistleclaw is awful but it's not her fault. Thistleclaw is the one who had the power in that situation. But yeah I really don't like her either.
@@catandrobbyflores I think you mean Dustpelt? Fernpaw was never almost killed by Darkstripe, her mentor at the time. Sorrelkit was though, and she became Brackenfur's mate a few books after becoming Sorreltail.
@@youinanalternateuniverse True. Thistleclaw did have most of the power in the situation. But she did have the power to say no, or at least tell someone what was going on. And that's where I fault her, or at least give her a little responsibility.
@@catandrobbyflores I promise I don't mean to sound rude, but does it matter? Brackenfur wasn't manipulating anyone where in contrast Thistleclaw was manipulating Spottedpaw/leaf into doing things she didn't want to, like going to the dark forest. Also, Thisleclaw already has a child! That shows their age gap. He also spent more time around her and her siblings as kits more than his own son. That should have been Spottedpaw's first red flag. He made up reasons why they should be "together" for when she became a warrior and that's scary. This entire situation is disgusting and inappropriate and even though it is not Spottedleaf's fault, I do hold her at least 25% responsible because she should have done something about it instead of running to the medicine den.
I feel very neutral about Spottedleaf. I don’t love her. I don’t hate her
Well, your opinion is interesting but I have to say that I don't share it. I'm not very far with the books, but I did read all the prophecy begin and Firestar's quest, so I will also use them as information.
When Spottedleaf appeared in into the wild, yes she was boring and the interaction with Firepaw was very small and they never said anything important in their conversation, but when Spottedleaf died everything changed. She started to visit Firepaw/hearth in his dreams and I don't think it's actually stalking as it just happens in Firepaw/hearth's dreams and she is not spying him or searching private information or such. She just wanted to pass more time with him and Firepaw/hearth also wanted to and the only way they could do that was the way it happend in the series.
About the prophecy, even the other accessors never gived important information, so I don't see why Spottedleaf should be considereted boring in that way. I also think it's cool try to guess what does the prophecy meaning and it gives the readers the will to continue reading the books because they get more and more interesting.
Also in Firestar's quest the relationship between Firestar and Sandstorm make me see Sandstorm even more bad that what I thought of her at the beginning. In into the wild we can all agree that she was some kind of a bully to Firepaw and she was always judging him beacause of where he was born despite how he was feeling. Then BOOM, mates! It was just rushed the way Sandstorm fell in love with him. The Erins probably selected them to be mates so that Firehearth/Star could have had kids and the series could continue. Of course they chooses Sandstorm beacause the readers already knew her from the first book. It's just like one of those 10 years old fantasy where the bully and the victim become mates. When the series continued every thing was quite ok I guess, but again in Firestar's quest she judged Firestar again beacause of his childhood crush, she didn't even know at first that Spottedleaf and Firestar were meeting in Firestar's dreams!
This is my opinion about her, but I won't judge other fans beacause of what they think.
Thank everyone who red all the text of my comment!
I really like spottedleaf and I wish she didn’t die so we could get to know her better
I forgot FireStar’s ghost wife existed-
You literally said you cried when she died and "Spottedleaf was ur favorite" in roblox to some girl-
@@munchkinchalateo I forgot about her after a while lmao
@@Chtc_Grc now can we play roblox or something after I brush my teeth-
Okay
the face you get when you LOVE Spottedleaf (like me) and watch this video... 😡😡😡........🤬!
I genuinely didnt understand the crappy FireSpotted "romance" until reading Spottedleaf's Honest Opinion. It really put things into view for me. If you havent read it, its a book by Vicky Holmes in Spottedleafs 1st person POV. Basically, it tells us about how Spottedleaf had a small crush on Fire but never intended to act on it. When she died, she had lost her chance at life, and she was in denial. She then dream stalked Fire and his family because she viewed them as her link to the living. She died young and was in denial about that. After reading that I genuinely appreciate Spottedleaf more, and I suggest you all read it as well!
I dont think that we REALLY needed Spottedleaf, but that book does put things into perspective for WHY she did the things she did.
I’m like 90% sure Spottedfire has the same age gap as spottedthistle
@@viridiankat8527 Spottedleaf was older than Darkstripe who was described as old in the first arc, and Firepaw was barely 6 moons old when Bluestar adopted him, so probably.
@@viridiankat8527 That’s what I found odd. Thistle was called bad for it yet spotted was treated as perfectly ok for it?
@@testerwulf3357 I don’t think spottedleaf is in the right here. But she just repeated thistles behaviour, because she never knew it 2as wrong. This doesn’t make spottedleaf any better; but I think it’s something to look at.
In my opinion, Spottedleaf isn't as bad as people say. The only side most people look at of her is the "omg she loved Firestar!!!! He was only a "kitten"!! Bad bad!!!" Meanwhile you have incest goin and much more age gap couples lmao.
She was just wasted potential, which is disappointing (to me at least)
Ok, I agree w ur overall point that she was wasted potential; however, incest is unavoidable at this point in the series w pretty much everyone being related. On top of that, as long as the cats are both sexually mature/not children anymore (I consider this as any warrior) age gap doesn't matter. Ur talking abt why spottedleaf (a full on medicine cat adult) & firepaw (a brand new apprentice child) aren't a problem bc of their age then saying that age gap is a bigger problem
Shes still one of my favorites lol I was obsessed with her as a kid. I loved her name and my vision of her in my head.. so pretty! I was so sad that she was killed off to quick. I wasn't too big of a fan though with how much they kept coming back in the dreams and seeming to make FS forget about ya know.. his mate? I'll have to reread Into the Wild again and see if my opinions change now that I'm 25, but I restarted the books again about 5 years ago and from what I remember.. I still loved her!
To be honest I'm very attached to her.
*Sweet scent intensifies*
I never thought about Lionheart replacing her as Firestar's guide, it's a very interesting concept! He would have had a very, very sad death. The eternal mentor, almost a father to Fire, gone forever.
Great video, Akira! And Missy Dakota 's drawings are amazing, I love them.
While I do agree with everything thing you said, she was still a good medicine cat when she was alive
i know her-shes acyually the only cats death i cried for in the df battle, and i wasn't even that attached to her. sooo
At least Spottedleaf’s existence spawned a lot of awesome AUs, PMVs and MAPs
I'd like to just forget about spottedleaf, but i read the books, so unfortunately I can't. She's boring, a bit of a Mary Sue, and annoying. I was fine with her in the first arc, but after that it's like the writers were desperately trying to keep her relavent. Let her (double) die. She double died eventually, but in my opinion it should've been a lot sooner. That's my opinion anyways 🙃
YEEES!!!! i feel EXACTLY the same! I also don't understand why Firestar can't get over her! I mean, he only knew her for like...1 moon or so! Spottedleaf is number 2 of my most hated cats!
I know that nobody cares...buttttt....:
1. Idk her name in English, but her German name is Skystar lol. She is The original male Skystar's (who in germany is named Cloudstar 😂😂😂) third mate (arc 5)
2. Spottedleaf (arc 1)
3. Storm (arc 5)
Contratulaions on 90 000 subscribers Akira!!
Also Akira is like a goddess in the warriors community and provides us the BEST warriors analysies. Her videos always bring so much joy.
I've read too much fanfiction and roleplayed as Spottedleaf a lot, so I've built up a love for my own personal vision of who I think she should be and not who she actually is in the books. Also, I love tortoiseshell cats. I had one I named Nanaba.
Yes! She's uselles! She would be much more interesting if she were a mother figure for Firestar
Defenitly!
Oh bud, she’s more
interesting in Spottedleaf s heart..
SCREW SPOTTEDLEAF X FIREHEART, SCREW SANDSTORM X FIREHEART (but keep the kits) BUT SUPPORT SMUDGE X RUSTY!
The Erins could have definitely done better, but I actually think she's not that bad!
Agreed
Ok, in defence of spotted leaf, i actually really like her but she is quite forgettable
Well...spottedleaf did sacrifice her life for the kits and basically said she had let go of firestar when mapleshade tried to have her on her side so she could kill sandstorm, but she sacrificed her spirit life for sandstorm!