Great video brother 🤘🏽 I feel like we got stuck with the bill of all the older channels and their logistics haha. And I think this space has lost its touch when it comes to the art and fun behind the tools we call cameras. And when comparing the S9 to its competitors, XE4, X100VI, A7C series.. I think the $1500 is very fair. I think the main issue being the S5II is severely under priced and lumix put themselves in the corner price wise
The S5ii for sure is under price (even though I am not complaining about that) it makes people compare the S9 way to much to the S5ii but they serve different purposes. I hated taking my S5ii on 12 mile hikes, and I did it with ease the other day on the S9. Sure there is limitations with this camera, but the price will eventually drop and be more "reasonable" in terms on price for most people especially in the used market
@@MatthewDangyou i think someone needs to compare this to the Fujifilm XE4… that’s the real competition. It was released years ago at $800.. if they released it these days it would Prbly be around $999-$1199. And the S9 is wayyyy more powerful with all its features.
Here's why I am okay with all their complaints about this camera. No EVF Never used it on my XT30 or other mirrorless camera. We are not in the film age anymore, it is required before but not anymore. Recording Limit I'm gonna use it for livestreaming mainly. And I can use external recording. For when I'm out, I'm not gonna record long sessions. No Grip Its going to be mounted most of the time. If used handheld, I'll probably hold it by the base of the lens more than gripping by the side. Price Its way cheaper in my country 145000 vs 105000 compared to S5ii with both of them having the 20-60 kit lens. Almost 50% less. No mechanical shutter I got a gig at a recording studio once. They asked me to take pictures and I ruined the recording because every shutter click was in the recording. I'm fine with silent shooting. Am I gonna buy it? Yes. I never had a full frame camera. And this is the first time that I'm considering buying one. A superb IBIS and with Panasonic timely switching to a phase detect last year, LUTs, dual ISO. Smaller. This is perfect.
The potential for banding or video flicker is a very real problem for me that I encounter a lot. I'm a Sony A7R5 user, but Id love a S9 just for the ibis, as I hate gimbals
The irony is that Gerald’s rant is all about reviews being biased, yet is entire take was biased m based from his experience with brands including LUMIX
Problem with Gerald is he rarely go outside his studio. Many reviewers like Gordon Laing or Richard Wong get cameras in the field, test it on real situation, especially Richard Wong who litteraly run a marathons to show AF speed or IBIS performance comparing them with different cameras with other brands. Gerald technical knowledge is incredibly, but hows that compare to real world and scenarios , when most of us will find more helpful than reading specs sheets? I find the same trend, but not on that scale with Black Magic Pyxis. Many users begs for box style camera with specs of BMCC6K they get and still rant about it. When i first buy a Canon 1000d for photography i just do it for fun, i didnt know there is other types of camera like full frame, but i really dont care, i had fun just making pictures with it. I try to improve my skills, and found internet forum, but what really was there - boomers who only talk and rant about specs, and i don't think they ever was passionate about create. Now i get deja vu because there is only talk about downsides, specs not even a single thought like what a fantastic things i can do we that. I dont talk about S9 or lumix in general, but every camera today is great, but people always want more and more, and think that gear do job for them. I know try to stay away from camera comunities because it hard to find anything inspirtational from it.
@@adidabax6809He's naive and has no concept of how marketing g works that's why. When I played college football we were a Nike. We basically advertised their gear every on GameDay and basically every day we walked across campus with our Nike gear on.
I watched tons of S9 reviews, I have not seen any bias, but I saw miss direction. The S9 got more negative than positive because reviewers complained about "why not" include this and that. You can't put everything SUV has in a small city car, don't you? Only bias review I saw is Undone himself. 😂 And he did not even touched the product yet, and mostly review things out of spec sheet.
I think Big Gerald really shat on a lot of people with careless words. I'm happy for you and everyone who got to have fun doing the thing they love. Happy Lumix have yall the fun experience, and i'm sad that something so trivial like camera reviews can "ruin" such a lovely experience. 😂 keep enjoying what you do friend!
I think you're just reacting to people who were sour graping for not being invited by Panasonic. I saw several videos, and all of them metnioned the cons of this camera.
Hahahaha, you all should not apologize for anything, You all did nothing bad. I understand all your reviews and everyone is intelligent enough to understand all review made by others. If they don’t like a product they will not buy. I’m 53 year and been following you for many years. I see that you are young guy beginning your career. Don’t be demotivated this whole discussion. I see it is very demotivated for you young people.
Though I think Lumix made some strange decisions with the S9, I’m really happy for you that you got to go to Japan! Must’ve been a great experience and there’s nothing wrong with being a Lumix shill 😅
for sure! The used market is also what everyone is comparing this camera to the S5ii. Once the Used or discounted market for the S9 starts this camera will make more sense for people for the price point then!
most of the S9 problems are solved by buying as S5II so obviously its a lower tier camera in terms of specs , but it suits many people who prefer this type of easygoing form factor but still in Full Frame with Open Gate recording that is perfect for social media with minimal or no editing. no other camera on the market offers this ! you want all the ports , unlimited recording , a mechanical shutter .. get an S5II
I already have an S5iiX myself but would love this camera as a walkaround with like a 50 mm pancake lens if they ever make one. Not that anyone would, but you could literally rig the S9 out and use an external monitor for unlimited recording. All these critics swear they are professionals, so they should already have an Atomos ninja. I never use the headphones jack personally because I use a zoom mic and monitor the audio externally and sync in post which is what a lot of professionals do anyway. The only real downside in my opinion is not having a mechanical shutter for flash photography outside, but I learned how to use continuous light in my photography classes before I ever learned how to use flash plus I tether when in studio sessions anyways.
lumix needs compact prime lens f2.8 and couple of fast zooms like tampon 20-40 for contact creator and travel video makers. it is almost a zve1 version of Sony a7c mark 2 with an amazing Ibis
Sorry Matthew you are wrong here. Does he care about you? No Does he know who you are? No. The point of debate is Lumix wanting to know first the title of video if he reviews the camera? And the way Lumix takes feedback, they get offended.
@@MatthewDangyoujust answer one question, if you are a creator and if Lumix asks you the title of video before posting and cut out content what they don’t like then are you even true to subscribers? No trip or no money can be bigger than your integrity.
They have never asked to review my videos, ask for me to title my videos, or change anything in that matters. Now I have done paid work with them for their channels and had to make revisions to videos. BUT that is what you do in the professional world. Imagine I made a video for a client and they asked me to change something. If I said no I would never work with that client again. So yeah if Lumix was a paid sponsor on my channel there is a fine like to how you should or shouldn’t title a video because they are PAYING you to make this video at the end of the day it was your decision to take the money to make a client video that lives on your channel. At the end of the day there is hundreds of different people working at Lumix. So it could have easily been someone higher up seeing Gerald saying a negative thing and they have higher say then say the marketing team. The marketing team or whomever was probably try to advocate to have Gerald come but they probably needed some help from him because of someone else having a problem🤷🏼♂️ simple as that. Not them trying them to make hype pieces, but he was in a 1 of 1 unique situation that creates lot of his fans to attack smaller channels and “discredit” us based on one video of a camera that we actually like. Kinda seems wrong for what has happened unintentionally, but even in this video I said I agreed with points he has said too, people just need to be grown ups and not tear down other people for no good reason.
Imagine how amazing this camera could have been if it didn't have all those negatives paired with the 18-40 lens on release date for under 2k. Shame Panasonic missed that opportunity.
True, hopefully they will give us some feature to control the temperature controls and that allows for longer record limits! I am excited for the 18-40mm lens though! I tried to make a VLOG while in Japan on the 24-70mm Lumix Lens....bad idea 😂
I just hated how the keyboard warriors forgot that not professionals exist. I just want a camera to take with me when I go on a hike, or a walk in a park. Who the hell brings headphones, mics and flashes to go for a walk? This was obviously targeted to people for casual use who want great quality final result. How did all these people forget 99% of the population? Professionals who have their studios and run photo/video businesses already have almost every camera targeted to them, just how hard is to graciously give the rest of us 1 choice? I'm just worried now that RUclipsrs like you will be afraid to say good things/make content about this camera, as the hate comments made everyone walk on eggshells. I want to buy this camera, and just hope that people will create content showing how to best use it and stuff, without feeling like they can't say good things about it or they will lose subscribers.
for sure! well good news I have a bunch of videos in the queue still on this camera including the entire menu system, my favorite feature, and some more content too!
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Me encantó el lanzamiento de la cámara: sobre todo ver lo que mis youtubers dé confianza podían lograr con ella en un lugar tan hermoso.😊
Gerald was doing what people do when they grow their business and think they are more important than they are. He's now mad and trying to harm people like you, Lumix, creators, and their customers. The reviews were very based. He's trying to take away advantages others get, he no longer does.
Gonna create and entire video around this idea hopefully should be out this Friday but I think I have an idea on how they could do it Short answer! Yes it should be easily possible
Nah! I actually didn't like the camera at first even though I had fun at Japan, but the more I did use it and start to understand the use cases is when I started liking it. Now this is for sure the only camera I would take on vacations
I enjoyed seeing the S9 launch videos. A little perspective here. I worked with 16 mm film. After you loaded the film mag into the camera - inside a dark bag so you won't expose the negative film to any kind of light..... you would be lucky to have 4 minutes of film to shoot with - and there was zero audio. That had to be done on a separate recorder. In short we shot feature-length films. With that chaotic workflow. The S9 has 15 minutes of 4K video.... I hate to say it, but the only limitations I see are the people and not the equipment. I think all the creators, with the short time they had with the S9 at lunch - gave a fair review of the camera. I agree with you about the price. It's too close to the s5 ii. Looking forward to more Lumix content.
I think you nail it about the price. I got the G9 for 400 bucks and have no complains about the contrast autofocus, and I am sure I'll be super happy with the g9ii when I get it for half of what it is today. And yeah you are not a sellout, is just that everyone that is given a 1600usd camera to play around will like it. I feel what Gerald was saying it's true though, but it's more about the state of social media where you HAVE to entertain to make money, and for cameras that's gear videos.
Started on the G7 as well. S5 and S1 now. I love the idea of the S9, having a stripped down version of an S5. They're good value cameras, and I don't wanna see Lumix go away. So by all means, be a shill! Save the brand.
I agree! Initially, I didn't see the point of the S9 as the S5II exists...but I'm thinking of getting one as I'd take it everywhere with me and I'd film more stuff and have fun - rather than overthinking everything as I do with my S1H.
For sure! And that is the perspective of a ton of other creators too! I wasn't sold on this camera when I first received it, but the more and more I use it the more I grow to really enjoy using it
Mr. Undone is undone. The whole thing is a foolish self-own which will only ruin his relationship with more brands. That essay needed to be thrown away and forgotten rather than recorded and posted. And it’s about time we let it go and moved on. The review system isn’t perfect but none are so let’s get back to making positive content.
The Real Irony is that Panasonic is giving for FREE the Lens everyone is complaining about. Just about every Camera BRAND has recycled just about everything in their Portfolio of GEAR. And nobody including Sony is giving anyone a discount on those newly released products. So picking on Panasonic when those that Review Sony GEAR have been far worse is more than just a bit Fishy. Then the nerve to Praise Sony at the end. Gerald must think folks are real Dumb.
A lot of the negative comments about this camera have been kind of weird and misguided. This camera isn't for me, I'll stick with my s5 and s5iix for now, but I don't get the hate. It's like people who drive a Ford Mustang getting mad at Ford for making the Fusion and then getting mad at the people who want to buy that car. It's a different segment for a different audience, they can both exist in the camera market.
1:27 nice quote Matthew…fan of Tom Holland huh? 😂 Thanks for sharing this video, I’ve enjoyed your content and will continue to do so. I think you give good honest feedback on products, lumix or not.
Give me the S9 and a manual focus Voigtlander lens and I will never pick up a GRiii again. Just sayin there is a place for this camera and I am looking forward to its release. Need something small and light to use for street that doesn't cost as much as a full frame Leica.
Hey Matt I think you are missing the point here. RUclips Creators like yourself keep calling this camera a CONTENT CREATORS Camera and its NOT . Its just a really cool full frame pocket ,travel point and shoot. a 10 minute record time makes it nothing more . I agree For what it is the Camera is Great! but no matter how many great features they pack into that tiny box the record limits make it what it really is ... A TOURIST CAMERA That's why you enjoyed it so much , both times you used it and had so much fun you were traveling. Try taking a 15 -20 min walk recording a Vlog or a sit down studio interview and you will get my point. B ROLL CAMERA AT BEST. LOW LIGHT street photography ABSOLUTLY! P.S. Love your channel , I have watched every Video and enjoyed them all.
Fair, content creator camera excluding YTbers with the record limit, my most recent video asking other creators though was filmed entirely on the S9 though, I am currently filming BROLL for an entire other video with the S9. For vlogging, most times I would never personally record over 15 minutes, but totally agree that this camera should have at least the ability to change the record limit to allow the camera to over heat which I will talk about in another video.
@@MatthewDangyou Thanks for the reply, I think someone like yourself that's been at this for a wile has the experience to get the footage one would need in a short amount of time , but for someone like myself getting ready to shoot my first video for my channel I would need much more record time as a beginner , the footage I have ready to go now took over 30min. Also if I could ever get my hands on a s9 I have a Mod that would remove the recording limit on that camera . I am surprised Lumix did not try figure this out first but they were probably in rush to market situation at the time.
@@krugerdesign For sure! Early days definetly took much much longer filming talking heads. But hoping I have an idea that could be theoretically added in a firmware update that could help this camera. Good luck on your first video as well!
I hope lumix will learn something from the s9... There's a reason cameras have A and P on the mode dial you don't need to dumb cameras down for people. I hope this camera is a success for lumix but it's definitely not for me...
Hahahaha, you all should not apologize for anything, You all did nothing bad. I understand all your reviews and everyone is intelligent enough to understand all review made by others. If they don’t like a product they will not buy. I’m 53 year and been following you for many years. I see that you are young guy beginning your career. Don’t be demotivated by this whole discussion. I see it is very demotivated for you young people. Gerard does not understand that this trip are for videographers and photographers. Gerard is only a reviewer, to my knowledge, and does not do professional videography or photography. Exactly, Gerard does not know when, how and which tone to say something. He looked angry because Lumix did not invite him. Robin Wong explained it correctly in his blogs. If you are not invited then you are not important as you think.
I don't have a problem with him😂 but "With Great Power, comes great responsibility" too, and I mentioned that I agreed with his points in part of this video, but it did come with a lot of unneeded backlash to a ton of smaller channels to people trying to make honest reviews 🤷🏼♂
An easy solution would be ...When invited for a launch or given a camera ...to leave an obvious note on the corner of the video saying it is a sponsored video ...
Actually (at least for myself the beginning of the video says this video includes a paid sponsored/even though technically I lost money going to Japan and didn’t make money though) it was a week trip for me who runs my own business. So yeah free trip, long term loaner camera, free stay and all but a weeks worth of “actual work” was lost👍🏻
Using the guitar as a model, you need to learn it to sound great - or even good. There are no shortcuts. The same goes for art, cooking, etc. Why does a camera need to be so dumbed down? You want that? Pull out your phone.
Sure, but also as a musician for past 13+ years not every guitar is created to the same quality, and you can get more complex stuff for your guitar with boards and pedals. But there is still “beginner guitars” even though they all are still a guitar. So people need intro cameras to grow out of one day, but I still mentioned that I think the price is a little high for this camera nonetheless
@@MatthewDangyou fair. But you still need to learn the craft if it’s a Squier or a Custom Shop Les Paul. I personally went back to my LUMIX LX100 to fine tune the craft the hard way :) Thnx for your thoughts.
besides what Gerald has said, the Panasonic S9 Is just a bad camera. It has no hot shoe, no microphone Jack, no mechanical shutter and no evf, the price is kinda high for what it gives you.
I would be curious if everyone had the same opinion if the S5ii was priced at $2500 and the X $2700. But for sure I feel like the price of this camera is high, which I do mention, but the people who will want to use this camera aren’t gonna care about those things. My first camera form lumix didn’t have all those things either but once the used and discount market roles around is when I see more people buying this camera
@@MatthewDangyou actually i think if the price for s5ii/x was 2300/2500 that was justified due to high amount of features. my own complaint is that this cam looks exactly like a photo centric camera and has nothing of it in its body. maybe lumix had to use the same s5 body but with no evf and m.shutter. like the zve1. idk… i’m ready to spent a lot more than 1500, i wanted this camera so badly
My entire channel is dedicated to making content about Lumix cameras and how to use them. So sure, but there are other channels for Sony users, black magic, canon, etc. So when the next Sony camera gets released, are these the same type of comments those creators receive who review the camera? If not then the viewers who are commenting nonsense (without reviewing or watching people's full videos) are just sheep following a wolf
@@jaymills1720 That is a good perspective to have too! (granted I don't make a living off RUclips and my actual job is running a video production company)
Gh6 is king.s5iix runnerup. Pro services barnone. The only reason for unlimited record time is for like my situation where i record karate for hr n half . My 2 cent .🎉Thank You good for you ! I dont like to fly and ya cant drive ther
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Great video brother 🤘🏽 I feel like we got stuck with the bill of all the older channels and their logistics haha. And I think this space has lost its touch when it comes to the art and fun behind the tools we call cameras. And when comparing the S9 to its competitors, XE4, X100VI, A7C series.. I think the $1500 is very fair. I think the main issue being the S5II is severely under priced and lumix put themselves in the corner price wise
The S5ii for sure is under price (even though I am not complaining about that) it makes people compare the S9 way to much to the S5ii but they serve different purposes. I hated taking my S5ii on 12 mile hikes, and I did it with ease the other day on the S9. Sure there is limitations with this camera, but the price will eventually drop and be more "reasonable" in terms on price for most people especially in the used market
@@MatthewDangyou i think someone needs to compare this to the Fujifilm XE4… that’s the real competition. It was released years ago at $800.. if they released it these days it would Prbly be around $999-$1199. And the S9 is wayyyy more powerful with all its features.
Love lumix cameras and love your videos! Keep on doing what you are doing!
Thanks mate!
i find it sad that everyone thinks cameras MUST BE PROFESSIONAL AND WORKHORSE. I mean, photo and videography can and should ALSO be fun. 😅
Yes definitely but they are charging pro prices and lacking basic features competitors at the price point have
Here's why I am okay with all their complaints about this camera.
No EVF
Never used it on my XT30 or other mirrorless camera. We are not in the film age anymore, it is required before but not anymore.
Recording Limit
I'm gonna use it for livestreaming mainly. And I can use external recording. For when I'm out, I'm not gonna record long sessions.
No Grip
Its going to be mounted most of the time. If used handheld, I'll probably hold it by the base of the lens more than gripping by the side.
Price
Its way cheaper in my country 145000 vs 105000 compared to S5ii with both of them having the 20-60 kit lens. Almost 50% less.
No mechanical shutter
I got a gig at a recording studio once. They asked me to take pictures and I ruined the recording because every shutter click was in the recording. I'm fine with silent shooting.
Am I gonna buy it? Yes. I never had a full frame camera. And this is the first time that I'm considering buying one. A superb IBIS and with Panasonic timely switching to a phase detect last year, LUTs, dual ISO. Smaller. This is perfect.
The potential for banding or video flicker is a very real problem for me that I encounter a lot.
I'm a Sony A7R5 user, but Id love a S9 just for the ibis, as I hate gimbals
The irony is that Gerald’s rant is all about reviews being biased, yet is entire take was biased m based from his experience with brands including LUMIX
He also threatens to not be as biased in the future IF companies don't play with him. He was pitiful.
Problem with Gerald is he rarely go outside his studio. Many reviewers like Gordon Laing or Richard Wong get cameras in the field, test it on real situation, especially Richard Wong who litteraly run a marathons to show AF speed or IBIS performance comparing them with different cameras with other brands.
Gerald technical knowledge is incredibly, but hows that compare to real world and scenarios , when most of us will find more helpful than reading specs sheets?
I find the same trend, but not on that scale with Black Magic Pyxis. Many users begs for box style camera with specs of BMCC6K they get and still rant about it.
When i first buy a Canon 1000d for photography i just do it for fun, i didnt know there is other types of camera like full frame, but i really dont care, i had fun just making pictures with it. I try to improve my skills, and found internet forum, but what really was there - boomers who only talk and rant about specs, and i don't think they ever was passionate about create. Now i get deja vu because there is only talk about downsides, specs not even a single thought like what a fantastic things i can do we that. I dont talk about S9 or lumix in general, but every camera today is great, but people always want more and more, and think that gear do job for them.
I know try to stay away from camera comunities because it hard to find anything inspirtational from it.
@@adidabax6809He's naive and has no concept of how marketing g works that's why. When I played college football we were a Nike. We basically advertised their gear every on GameDay and basically every day we walked across campus with our Nike gear on.
I watched tons of S9 reviews, I have not seen any bias, but I saw miss direction. The S9 got more negative than positive because reviewers complained about "why not" include this and that. You can't put everything SUV has in a small city car, don't you?
Only bias review I saw is Undone himself. 😂 And he did not even touched the product yet, and mostly review things out of spec sheet.
I think Big Gerald really shat on a lot of people with careless words. I'm happy for you and everyone who got to have fun doing the thing they love. Happy Lumix have yall the fun experience, and i'm sad that something so trivial like camera reviews can "ruin" such a lovely experience. 😂
keep enjoying what you do friend!
oh.... i think Gerald was pissed off that Lumix were selling crap to idiots who didn't know any better.....
Like this if you're a LUMIX shill
😂I love you Dustin, but you forgot to like it yourself too
@@MatthewDangyounah I don't like my own comments. That'd be too biased
I think you're just reacting to people who were sour graping for not being invited by Panasonic. I saw several videos, and all of them metnioned the cons of this camera.
don't apologize brotha!! what an awesome trailer!!! i have the Panasonic S5IIx and Fuji x100VI
Hahahaha, you all should not apologize for anything, You all did nothing bad. I understand all your reviews and everyone is intelligent enough to understand all review made by others. If they don’t like a product they will not buy.
I’m 53 year and been following you for many years. I see that you are young guy beginning your career. Don’t be demotivated this whole discussion. I see it is very demotivated for you young people.
For sure! Thanks I appreciate the kind words!
Though I think Lumix made some strange decisions with the S9, I’m really happy for you that you got to go to Japan! Must’ve been a great experience and there’s nothing wrong with being a Lumix shill 😅
HAHAH Yeah for sure some interesting choices but the camera (for me) is perfect for travel and vlogging
the issue here is the price. it's too expensive for the limitations it has
for sure! The used market is also what everyone is comparing this camera to the S5ii. Once the Used or discounted market for the S9 starts this camera will make more sense for people for the price point then!
True. Bnew to bnew, its fairly priced.
most of the S9 problems are solved by buying as S5II
so obviously its a lower tier camera in terms of specs , but it suits many people who prefer this type of easygoing form factor but still in Full Frame with Open Gate recording that is perfect for social media with minimal or no editing.
no other camera on the market offers this !
you want all the ports , unlimited recording , a mechanical shutter .. get an S5II
I already have an S5iiX myself but would love this camera as a walkaround with like a 50 mm pancake lens if they ever make one. Not that anyone would, but you could literally rig the S9 out and use an external monitor for unlimited recording. All these critics swear they are professionals, so they should already have an Atomos ninja. I never use the headphones jack personally because I use a zoom mic and monitor the audio externally and sync in post which is what a lot of professionals do anyway. The only real downside in my opinion is not having a mechanical shutter for flash photography outside, but I learned how to use continuous light in my photography classes before I ever learned how to use flash plus I tether when in studio sessions anyways.
@@quentin6233 I’m sure many lumix full frame users will get one eventually but I think it’s first and foremost for new type of users
at the end of the day, to each their own. if you don't like the camera, it doesn't mean others should dislike it too. we all have our own preferences.
lumix needs compact prime lens f2.8 and couple of fast zooms like tampon 20-40 for contact creator and travel video makers. it is almost a zve1 version of Sony a7c mark 2 with an amazing Ibis
Sorry Matthew you are wrong here. Does he care about you? No Does he know who you are? No. The point of debate is Lumix wanting to know first the title of video if he reviews the camera? And the way Lumix takes feedback, they get offended.
They really don’t get offended about feedback though soooo👀
@@MatthewDangyoujust answer one question, if you are a creator and if Lumix asks you the title of video before posting and cut out content what they don’t like then are you even true to subscribers? No trip or no money can be bigger than your integrity.
They have never asked to review my videos, ask for me to title my videos, or change anything in that matters. Now I have done paid work with them for their channels and had to make revisions to videos. BUT that is what you do in the professional world. Imagine I made a video for a client and they asked me to change something. If I said no I would never work with that client again.
So yeah if Lumix was a paid sponsor on my channel there is a fine like to how you should or shouldn’t title a video because they are PAYING you to make this video at the end of the day it was your decision to take the money to make a client video that lives on your channel.
At the end of the day there is hundreds of different people working at Lumix. So it could have easily been someone higher up seeing Gerald saying a negative thing and they have higher say then say the marketing team. The marketing team or whomever was probably try to advocate to have Gerald come but they probably needed some help from him because of someone else having a problem🤷🏼♂️ simple as that. Not them trying them to make hype pieces, but he was in a 1 of 1 unique situation that creates lot of his fans to attack smaller channels and “discredit” us based on one video of a camera that we actually like.
Kinda seems wrong for what has happened unintentionally, but even in this video I said I agreed with points he has said too, people just need to be grown ups and not tear down other people for no good reason.
@@MatthewDangyou In my opinion it’s up to viewers to decide who’s working “with” or working “for” Lumix.
I guess I'm just confused as to why they didn't bring any tiktokers or content creators to Japan to test out a camera that was intended for them
They did actually but some of the "TikTokers" don't make reviews on cameras 😂Ethan Barber on Instagram came to the event and loves the camera
Imagine how amazing this camera could have been if it didn't have all those negatives paired with the 18-40 lens on release date for under 2k. Shame Panasonic missed that opportunity.
True, hopefully they will give us some feature to control the temperature controls and that allows for longer record limits! I am excited for the 18-40mm lens though! I tried to make a VLOG while in Japan on the 24-70mm Lumix Lens....bad idea 😂
Cool keep up the great content
Thanks!
I just hated how the keyboard warriors forgot that not professionals exist. I just want a camera to take with me when I go on a hike, or a walk in a park. Who the hell brings headphones, mics and flashes to go for a walk? This was obviously targeted to people for casual use who want great quality final result. How did all these people forget 99% of the population? Professionals who have their studios and run photo/video businesses already have almost every camera targeted to them, just how hard is to graciously give the rest of us 1 choice?
I'm just worried now that RUclipsrs like you will be afraid to say good things/make content about this camera, as the hate comments made everyone walk on eggshells. I want to buy this camera, and just hope that people will create content showing how to best use it and stuff, without feeling like they can't say good things about it or they will lose subscribers.
for sure! well good news I have a bunch of videos in the queue still on this camera including the entire menu system, my favorite feature, and some more content too!
Me encantó el lanzamiento de la cámara: sobre todo ver lo que mis youtubers dé confianza podían lograr con ella en un lugar tan hermoso.😊
Gerald was doing what people do when they grow their business and think they are more important than they are. He's now mad and trying to harm people like you, Lumix, creators, and their customers. The reviews were very based. He's trying to take away advantages others get, he no longer does.
do you think it's possible for Lumix to do a firmware update to increase the record limit?
Gonna create and entire video around this idea hopefully should be out this Friday but I think I have an idea on how they could do it
Short answer! Yes it should be easily possible
Very sensible video
Perhaps you got so much fun in Japan that it makes sense you are so happy about the it and everything related
Nah! I actually didn't like the camera at first even though I had fun at Japan, but the more I did use it and start to understand the use cases is when I started liking it. Now this is for sure the only camera I would take on vacations
I enjoyed seeing the S9 launch videos.
A little perspective here.
I worked with 16 mm film. After you loaded the film mag into the camera - inside a dark bag so you won't expose the negative film to any kind of light..... you would be lucky to have 4 minutes of film to shoot with - and there was zero audio. That had to be done on a separate recorder.
In short we shot feature-length films. With that chaotic workflow.
The S9 has 15 minutes of 4K video....
I hate to say it, but the only limitations I see are the people and not the equipment.
I think all the creators, with the short time they had with the S9 at lunch - gave a fair review of the camera.
I agree with you about the price. It's too close to the s5 ii.
Looking forward to more Lumix content.
Good video. Thanks. toronto canada.
The S9 looks interesting. But I'm sticking to Pan m43. No FF for me.
For sure!
I think you nail it about the price. I got the G9 for 400 bucks and have no complains about the contrast autofocus, and I am sure I'll be super happy with the g9ii when I get it for half of what it is today. And yeah you are not a sellout, is just that everyone that is given a 1600usd camera to play around will like it. I feel what Gerald was saying it's true though, but it's more about the state of social media where you HAVE to entertain to make money, and for cameras that's gear videos.
Started on the G7 as well. S5 and S1 now. I love the idea of the S9, having a stripped down version of an S5. They're good value cameras, and I don't wanna see Lumix go away. So by all means, be a shill! Save the brand.
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I agree! Initially, I didn't see the point of the S9 as the S5II exists...but I'm thinking of getting one as I'd take it everywhere with me and I'd film more stuff and have fun - rather than overthinking everything as I do with my S1H.
For sure! And that is the perspective of a ton of other creators too! I wasn't sold on this camera when I first received it, but the more and more I use it the more I grow to really enjoy using it
Mr. Undone is undone. The whole thing is a foolish self-own which will only ruin his relationship with more brands. That essay needed to be thrown away and forgotten rather than recorded and posted. And it’s about time we let it go and moved on. The review system isn’t perfect but none are so let’s get back to making positive content.
The Real Irony is that Panasonic is giving for FREE the Lens everyone is complaining about. Just about every Camera BRAND has recycled just about everything in their Portfolio of GEAR. And nobody including Sony is giving anyone a discount on those newly released products. So picking on Panasonic when those that Review Sony GEAR have been far worse is more than just a bit Fishy. Then the nerve to Praise Sony at the end. Gerald must think folks are real Dumb.
A lot of the negative comments about this camera have been kind of weird and misguided. This camera isn't for me, I'll stick with my s5 and s5iix for now, but I don't get the hate. It's like people who drive a Ford Mustang getting mad at Ford for making the Fusion and then getting mad at the people who want to buy that car. It's a different segment for a different audience, they can both exist in the camera market.
Do you still have the g9ii? I would like to see a test of it with the Viltrox EF Mii and the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8
I do! I don't have that lens sadly!
I love Lumix and I still use 3 GH5 cameras to shoot my short films...
1:27 nice quote Matthew…fan of Tom Holland huh? 😂 Thanks for sharing this video, I’ve enjoyed your content and will continue to do so. I think you give good honest feedback on products, lumix or not.
HAHAH didn't know that was from Tom Holland! Thanks Mate
@@MatthewDangyou oh really? That’s funny. Where did you get the quote from? Maybe he copied someone else
@@philrodfilms Maybe I just heard him say it and subconsciously thought I never heard it before 😂 but hey I don't mind, Tom seems cool
@@MatthewDangyou it’s a fantastic quote!
What they should really do, is make a flagship camera that small.
Give me the S9 and a manual focus Voigtlander lens and I will never pick up a GRiii again. Just sayin there is a place for this camera and I am looking forward to its release. Need something small and light to use for street that doesn't cost as much as a full frame Leica.
Hey Matt I think you are missing the point here. RUclips Creators like yourself keep calling this camera a CONTENT CREATORS Camera and its NOT . Its just a really cool full frame pocket ,travel point and shoot. a 10 minute record time makes it nothing more . I agree For what it is the Camera is Great! but no matter how many great features they pack into that tiny box the record limits make it what it really is ... A TOURIST CAMERA That's why you enjoyed it so much , both times you used it and had so much fun you were traveling. Try taking a 15 -20 min walk recording a Vlog or a sit down studio interview and you will get my point. B ROLL CAMERA AT BEST. LOW LIGHT street photography ABSOLUTLY! P.S. Love your channel , I have watched every Video and enjoyed them all.
Fair, content creator camera excluding YTbers with the record limit, my most recent video asking other creators though was filmed entirely on the S9 though, I am currently filming BROLL for an entire other video with the S9. For vlogging, most times I would never personally record over 15 minutes, but totally agree that this camera should have at least the ability to change the record limit to allow the camera to over heat which I will talk about in another video.
@@MatthewDangyou Thanks for the reply, I think someone like yourself that's been at this for a wile has the experience to get the footage one would need in a short amount of time , but for someone like myself getting ready to shoot my first video for my channel I would need much more record time as a beginner , the footage I have ready to go now took over 30min. Also if I could ever get my hands on a s9 I have a Mod that would remove the recording limit on that camera . I am surprised Lumix did not try figure this out first but they were probably in rush to market situation at the time.
@@krugerdesign For sure! Early days definetly took much much longer filming talking heads. But hoping I have an idea that could be theoretically added in a firmware update that could help this camera. Good luck on your first video as well!
If you watch 99% of Tik Tok, IG or Reel, most video last less than 1-2 minutes.
@@kentmemories Thats true, yet those platforms are mostly for people using just a phone to create
I hope lumix will learn something from the s9... There's a reason cameras have A and P on the mode dial you don't need to dumb cameras down for people. I hope this camera is a success for lumix but it's definitely not for me...
Hahahaha, you all should not apologize for anything, You all did nothing bad. I understand all your reviews and everyone is intelligent enough to understand all review made by others. If they don’t like a product they will not buy.
I’m 53 year and been following you for many years. I see that you are young guy beginning your career. Don’t be demotivated by this whole discussion. I see it is very demotivated for you young people.
Gerard does not understand that this trip are for videographers and photographers. Gerard is only a reviewer, to my knowledge, and does not do professional videography or photography.
Exactly, Gerard does not know when, how and which tone to say something. He looked angry because Lumix did not invite him. Robin Wong explained it correctly in his blogs. If you are not invited then you are not important as you think.
At no time should you never feel bad about taking a trip to Japan via LUMIX. Amazing opportunity 👍🏻Any naysayers are just bitter. 😢
if you have a problem with gerald undone, you should probably text him. If you don't have his number, you probably don't know him very well
I don't have a problem with him😂 but "With Great Power, comes great responsibility" too, and I mentioned that I agreed with his points in part of this video, but it did come with a lot of unneeded backlash to a ton of smaller channels to people trying to make honest reviews 🤷🏼♂
An easy solution would be ...When invited for a launch or given a camera ...to leave an obvious note on the corner of the video saying it is a sponsored video ...
Actually (at least for myself the beginning of the video says this video includes a paid sponsored/even though technically I lost money going to Japan and didn’t make money though) it was a week trip for me who runs my own business. So yeah free trip, long term loaner camera, free stay and all but a weeks worth of “actual work” was lost👍🏻
You should do a giveaway and let me win that giveaway 🤣 lol I want the camera but dropping 1499 is sick 😭
Wait for the used market or when Black Friday rolls around that is when I see people picking up this camera IMO
@@MatthewDangyou def going to wait!
Using the guitar as a model, you need to learn it to sound great - or even good. There are no shortcuts. The same goes for art, cooking, etc. Why does a camera need to be so dumbed down? You want that? Pull out your phone.
Sure, but also as a musician for past 13+ years not every guitar is created to the same quality, and you can get more complex stuff for your guitar with boards and pedals. But there is still “beginner guitars” even though they all are still a guitar. So people need intro cameras to grow out of one day, but I still mentioned that I think the price is a little high for this camera nonetheless
@@MatthewDangyou fair. But you still need to learn the craft if it’s a Squier or a Custom Shop Les Paul. I personally went back to my LUMIX LX100 to fine tune the craft the hard way :) Thnx for your thoughts.
besides what Gerald has said, the Panasonic S9 Is just a bad camera. It has no hot shoe, no microphone Jack, no mechanical shutter and no evf, the price is kinda high for what it gives you.
I would be curious if everyone had the same opinion if the S5ii was priced at $2500 and the X $2700. But for sure I feel like the price of this camera is high, which I do mention, but the people who will want to use this camera aren’t gonna care about those things. My first camera form lumix didn’t have all those things either but once the used and discount market roles around is when I see more people buying this camera
@@MatthewDangyou actually i think if the price for s5ii/x was 2300/2500 that was justified due to high amount of features. my own complaint is that this cam looks exactly like a photo centric camera and has nothing of it in its body. maybe lumix had to use the same s5 body but with no evf and m.shutter. like the zve1. idk… i’m ready to spent a lot more than 1500, i wanted this camera so badly
You have to pick a side. Are you going to bring objective content to your viewers or are you going to be a paid mouthpiece for Panasonic?
Truth: you guys are full time advertisers for brands.
My entire channel is dedicated to making content about Lumix cameras and how to use them. So sure, but there are other channels for Sony users, black magic, canon, etc.
So when the next Sony camera gets released, are these the same type of comments those creators receive who review the camera? If not then the viewers who are commenting nonsense (without reviewing or watching people's full videos) are just sheep following a wolf
@@MatthewDangyou yea that’s fine. I watch the videos knowing you guys make a living advertising.
@@jaymills1720 That is a good perspective to have too! (granted I don't make a living off RUclips and my actual job is running a video production company)
Gh6 is king.s5iix runnerup. Pro services barnone. The only reason for unlimited record time is for like my situation where i record karate for hr n half . My 2 cent .🎉Thank You good for you ! I dont like to fly and ya cant drive ther
And that is why they have those cameras too! Different cameras for different purposes :)