I have an 11.25-11.5 D brannock size. For those of you who are interested, my experience with Wesco Mister Lou sizing is that the Bakers Boots advise of sizing 0.5 down and sizing up in width actually works. My horsehide Mister Lous were an 11E and I’m not sure if I could have gotten the fit better. For John Lofgrens, I was surprised at how wide the “D-width” was. I followed Standard and Strange’s advice of going 0.5 sizes down if you have a D-width foot. The Lofgrens were definitely roomier in the toe box. My feet don’t have a high instep, so it wasn’t very difficult to initially get my feet into the pass-through of the shaft, but over time I actually needed to get inserts. Even though this was a good fix, it still was slightly too roomy in the toe box for my liking and I ended up selling them. I just ordered my first pair of Role Club 1940 last engineers and I am absolutely stoked to get them. Engineer boots can be a long, expensive process of figuring out the minute details of your foot sizing and what engineer boot lasts are going to be perfect for your feet. If you are at all interested in them, DO NOT skip out on figuring out your sizing as best as possible. The Role Club website has a foot sizing diagram that can be very helpful for getting detailed dimensions of your feet to help in your engineer boot journey, but overall the best way to figure out if something is going to work is for you to actually try something on in person. This is especially true of you plan on purchasing a $2000+ boot, which means that it might even be best for you to fly to the shop itself and try them on before actually taking them home
Thanks! Chippewa made a great boot. Unfortunately they’re no longer making boots in the USA. I think they got bought out. I have a really nice pair of lace up w/ toe cap by Chippewa. Super nice!
@@trinityhandmade3864 meet ups with everyone in Nor Cal to feature everyones prized swag and rides would be cool in the future. I am over in Fresno, but would totally go!
Coming from TFL. Was hoping you would discuss the differences between different types of engineer boots (steel toe moto ones, double stitched PNW ones, super dressy Indonesian and Japanese ones, etc..) a bit more. And in general in what ways and how do engineer boots as a style differs from various other boot styles (for example tanker, cowboy, etc..). Also what you can get in different price brackets. For example as someone living in EU I'd say you have Sendra (Spain) in the 200-300eu bracket, Red WIng (US) in the 300-400eu bracket, Bright Shoemakers (DK, but make by Sendra in Spain) in the 400-500 bracket. After that there's a jump to the ~700-900 bracket where you start getting more stuff from US (Whites, Nicks..), Indonesia and Japan. And of course you can jump to the very high end with some US (Brian, Kreosote) and Japan bootmakers (Clinch,..). Personal grail for me would be a pair of Leather Things Motor engineers from Japan. But cool video nevertheless! Will be looking forward to the next ones, especially the leather jacket one (please discuss your Vanishing Point jacket in detail!).
Thanks for the input! We'll definitely be doing more sessions about Engineer Boots in the future. Both Jimmy and I have new boots on order, so we'll be coming back around again on this topic for sure! Also, yes! I'll be talking about my Vanishing Point jacket. I love that jacket, it's one of my favs!!
The boot that I have that fits me the best is the Viberg 2040 in size 10E. I'm looking for an engineer boot that has a round toe. Normal instep. Any recommendations?
Hey Brother, I know Iron Heart Germany has a pair of 10.5 in their “custom” Boss boot available. I just got a pair from them. Nice old school round toe biker boot. Grab them while they’re still available!
I’m looking for an all around engineer boot for both a daily and motorcycle wear interchangeably. Any help is appreciated. Found out my Iron Rangers aren’t good for riding due to the toe cap but I love them. My Origin Coronado hybrids are perfect for summer riding and daily wear.
I find that the Iron Ranger is not ideal for riding mostly due to their mini-lug soles tend to not have enough grip. In terms of engineer boots, any Wesco boot is pretty darn good.
Over forty years on two wheels and I have mostly Wesco and Chippewa. I prefer the taller boots for better shin protection. All mine for riding are 16" to 18". What are your thoughts on the taller engineer boots?
It’s time we as me started talking cool fashion. It’s not metro it’s practical. There is so much quality goods out there. Got red wing 2268 pt91s and getting blue tag vintage Herman’s coming. Real vintage engineer boots probably late 50s or before. If you love em wear em doesn’t matter the cost. What do you think of Herman Blue tag?
I found in Wesco engineers to go down a half size from 12D true in an 11.5 E width. I can wear a 12D in the Mr. Lou but the 11.5E is a better fit. My Lofgren pair and a different Japanese brand just went down to an 11.5D. I cannot wear the regular leather Lofgren engineers (cannot get them on one foot) but a pair in shinki horsehide fit fine.
I would consider them mid-upper tier. Mostly based upon the price point. Where as, you can still buy a factory mass produced engineer boot from about $300-$400. Wesco’s as you know are $600-$700.
Great video, just subscribed. Have you ever tried John Lofgren Engineers? I have his in horween natural cxl and Wesco Mr Lou in Maryam horsehide black teacore. My Lofgrens are more premium, and I like them more.
Yes I did actually have one pair of lofgrens and funny enough they were Ticho Blanco’s pre owned pair. JL are very high quality but they do come across as a factory built pair where as Mr. Lou’s feel way more like a handmade boot with their inconsistencies. I think I forgot to mention the Lofgrens in the video! So many dang boots I can’t even remember them all. Thanks for the watch!
John Lofgren makes a great boot! I’ve tried them on at Standard & Strange a few times over the years. The JL sizing is a little different for me, I typically wear a 8 1/2D in their boots. I especially love the combat boot!
That depends upon what you’re looking for and your size. There’s many options out there. Self Edge has some Flat Head in stock. Also, try Butterscotch LB he has Attractions Boots. Frequent the secondary market-check Fedora Lounge classified, some good deals pop up. Good luck!
I love the boots the biggest problem with costume boot sizing that your married to the boots because of reselling the boots I have been scammed with a pair used boots that the seller didn't disclosed that they made for their foot.
Nah I will pass on Roleclub, Lofgren, Mr. Lou, etc. way over priced and usually only available up to a size 13. If I want a pair of boots with leather I go for the Wesco Boss and harness. I have numerous pairs with different shaft heights even up to 36 inch for a pair of Boss, size 16. I like boots I can scuff, get dirty, etc.
I look at boots a little different. The Mr. Lou and some other engineers remind me of a southern gentleman boot. Possibly, a sort of western vibe as well. Have a couple pairs of custom Boss boots (no lug sole) that have a totally different look and vibe. One is a biker/work style boot and the other is more of a gentleman's type boot. Just my take on the different options. You can scuff and get them all dirty.
Hell yeah dudes
Thanks for checking it out Weston!
I love the buckle that engineering boots use. Could you please cut some in half so we can see who has great quality boots?
Got my first pair of Engineers yesterday. Very stoked about them. They are the original Wesco X S&S Van Cleef Engineer in Natural Essex.
Excellent choice!!
Some of us boot junkies never get engineer boots. We are doing the addiction with service / heritage boots. Just a different flavor.
I have an 11.25-11.5 D brannock size. For those of you who are interested, my experience with Wesco Mister Lou sizing is that the Bakers Boots advise of sizing 0.5 down and sizing up in width actually works. My horsehide Mister Lous were an 11E and I’m not sure if I could have gotten the fit better. For John Lofgrens, I was surprised at how wide the “D-width” was. I followed Standard and Strange’s advice of going 0.5 sizes down if you have a D-width foot. The Lofgrens were definitely roomier in the toe box. My feet don’t have a high instep, so it wasn’t very difficult to initially get my feet into the pass-through of the shaft, but over time I actually needed to get inserts. Even though this was a good fix, it still was slightly too roomy in the toe box for my liking and I ended up selling them. I just ordered my first pair of Role Club 1940 last engineers and I am absolutely stoked to get them. Engineer boots can be a long, expensive process of figuring out the minute details of your foot sizing and what engineer boot lasts are going to be perfect for your feet. If you are at all interested in them, DO NOT skip out on figuring out your sizing as best as possible. The Role Club website has a foot sizing diagram that can be very helpful for getting detailed dimensions of your feet to help in your engineer boot journey, but overall the best way to figure out if something is going to work is for you to actually try something on in person. This is especially true of you plan on purchasing a $2000+ boot, which means that it might even be best for you to fly to the shop itself and try them on before actually taking them home
Thanks for your input
wow.. when did this channel start??? I've watch like all the Trinity videos,, never realized this was a channel., subscribed asap
Thanks!
I honestly like the very thorough explanation of every boot. Awesome well informed boot(s) review!
Cool video, I am still wearing my steel toe Chippewas I got in the late 70’s.
Thanks! Chippewa made a great boot. Unfortunately they’re no longer making boots in the USA. I think they got bought out. I have a really nice pair of lace up w/ toe cap by Chippewa. Super nice!
Amazing content!!! Engineer boots is an absolute icon of man cave outfit! thank you for the effort!
Thank you!
I got a few pairs of engineers. Wolverine 10” all the way down to ankle height buckle boots. I love the design.
Instant subscription. Keep content coming.
Would love to see the Wesco naturals aging. Must looks fantastic.
Excited for this show! Would be cool to see guests on, as well. Engineers were a great topic for the first episode! Keep rockin’ guys.
Thanks, we have plans for guests too. There’s a fair bit of locals to Northern California that would be fun to host.
@@trinityhandmade3864 meet ups with everyone in Nor Cal to feature everyones prized swag and rides would be cool in the future. I am over in Fresno, but would totally go!
Fer sure!
Thanks for that. Looking forward to it.
Thanks for checking it out Dennis!
Looking forward to the lace up episode!
ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY PUMPED i found this channel !!!!! THANK YOU GUYS !!! learning ALOT !!
Hey, thank you brother! We’re having fun making them!
Photography here is amazing
Thanks Jon! Glad you like!
Coming from TFL.
Was hoping you would discuss the differences between different types of engineer boots (steel toe moto ones, double stitched PNW ones, super dressy Indonesian and Japanese ones, etc..) a bit more. And in general in what ways and how do engineer boots as a style differs from various other boot styles (for example tanker, cowboy, etc..).
Also what you can get in different price brackets. For example as someone living in EU I'd say you have Sendra (Spain) in the 200-300eu bracket, Red WIng (US) in the 300-400eu bracket, Bright Shoemakers (DK, but make by Sendra in Spain) in the 400-500 bracket. After that there's a jump to the ~700-900 bracket where you start getting more stuff from US (Whites, Nicks..), Indonesia and Japan. And of course you can jump to the very high end with some US (Brian, Kreosote) and Japan bootmakers (Clinch,..).
Personal grail for me would be a pair of Leather Things Motor engineers from Japan.
But cool video nevertheless! Will be looking forward to the next ones, especially the leather jacket one (please discuss your Vanishing Point jacket in detail!).
Thanks for the input! We'll definitely be doing more sessions about Engineer Boots in the future. Both Jimmy and I have new boots on order, so we'll be coming back around again on this topic for sure! Also, yes! I'll be talking about my Vanishing Point jacket. I love that jacket, it's one of my favs!!
Loving your channel guys. 😊
Thank you so much!
I just love boots, period.
Me too!!
The boot that I have that fits me the best is the Viberg 2040 in size 10E. I'm looking for an engineer boot that has a round toe. Normal instep. Any recommendations?
Hey Brother, I know Iron Heart Germany has a pair of 10.5 in their “custom” Boss boot available. I just got a pair from them. Nice old school round toe biker boot. Grab them while they’re still available!
I’m looking for an all around engineer boot for both a daily and motorcycle wear interchangeably. Any help is appreciated. Found out my Iron Rangers aren’t good for riding due to the toe cap but I love them. My Origin Coronado hybrids are perfect for summer riding and daily wear.
I find that the Iron Ranger is not ideal for riding mostly due to their mini-lug soles tend to not have enough grip. In terms of engineer boots, any Wesco boot is pretty darn good.
Over forty years on two wheels and I have mostly Wesco and Chippewa. I prefer the taller boots for better shin protection. All mine for riding are 16" to 18". What are your thoughts on the taller engineer boots?
Yeah, standard kit for most motorcycle police. Wesco did a big run of 10 inch Boss boots some years ago.
It’s time we as me started talking cool fashion. It’s not metro it’s practical. There is so much quality goods out there. Got red wing 2268 pt91s and getting blue tag vintage Herman’s coming. Real vintage engineer boots probably late 50s or before. If you love em wear em doesn’t matter the cost. What do you think of Herman Blue tag?
Vintage is always cool.
Dudes, what are those copper pants you are wearing> They look similar to some darker tan 505’s I have, but with a richer color. They look awesome.
Hey, thanks a bunch! Mine are Iron Heart 17oz. Cotton duck 777’s- Jimmy’s are Rail Car and Fine Goods denim
Check out the denim episode we talk about our jeans a bit
@@themancaveclub thanks, I saved it for later.
Nothing will has beat the Clinch engineer
Yes, Clinch are beautiful boots. A little too dressy for me but, the craftsmanship is amazing
Never size down if you have wide feet
Correct!
COOL 😎
I found in Wesco engineers to go down a half size from 12D true in an 11.5 E width. I can wear a 12D in the Mr. Lou but the 11.5E is a better fit. My Lofgren pair and a different Japanese brand just went down to an 11.5D. I cannot wear the regular leather Lofgren engineers (cannot get them on one foot) but a pair in shinki horsehide fit fine.
Good info to share
I bought a pair of Frye engineer 12R. Are they considered mid tier or lower?
I would consider them mid-upper tier. Mostly based upon the price point. Where as, you can still buy a factory mass produced engineer boot from about $300-$400. Wesco’s as you know are $600-$700.
That new Role Club RTW drop was actually a new last.
Very cool! That was the Maryam horsebutt run right?
Oh, didn't realize that was on a new last.
@@trinityhandmade3864 Yup. It has a description on his site. I bought them without realizing. Thought they were the 2307
Great video, just subscribed. Have you ever tried John Lofgren Engineers? I have his in horween natural cxl and Wesco Mr Lou in Maryam horsehide black teacore. My Lofgrens are more premium, and I like them more.
Yes I did actually have one pair of lofgrens and funny enough they were Ticho Blanco’s pre owned pair. JL are very high quality but they do come across as a factory built pair where as Mr. Lou’s feel way more like a handmade boot with their inconsistencies. I think I forgot to mention the Lofgrens in the video! So many dang boots I can’t even remember them all. Thanks for the watch!
John Lofgren makes a great boot! I’ve tried them on at Standard & Strange a few times over the years. The JL sizing is a little different for me, I typically wear a 8 1/2D in their boots. I especially love the combat boot!
Hey guys just wondering what brand of Duck trousers your wearing?
Hello, Jimmy is wearing Rail Car and I’m wear Iron Heart.
Whites and John Lofgren make the best engineer boots/lasts in my opinion
Yes, they make beautiful boots! I hear through the grapevine… The Flat Head boots are made in the same factory as Lofgren.
Im looking to buy a pair of engineers, any wesco alternatives that I dont have to wait 2 years on??
That depends upon what you’re looking for and your size. There’s many options out there. Self Edge has some Flat Head in stock. Also, try Butterscotch LB he has Attractions Boots. Frequent the secondary market-check Fedora Lounge classified, some good deals pop up. Good luck!
Would you be interested in selling that framed poster in the background?
Not at this point. It’s a cool one!
@@themancaveclub yeah love it
There's only one place for leathers and do I even have to say it? Langlitz.
Love Langlitz Leather, but like many makers they do have their foibles...
I love the boots the biggest problem with costume boot sizing that your married to the boots because of reselling the boots I have been scammed with a pair used boots that the seller didn't disclosed that they made for their foot.
I agree... Bummer!
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Nah I will pass on Roleclub, Lofgren, Mr. Lou, etc. way over priced and usually only available up to a size 13. If I want a pair of boots with leather I go for the Wesco Boss and harness. I have numerous pairs with different shaft heights even up to 36 inch for a pair of Boss, size 16. I like boots I can scuff, get dirty, etc.
I look at boots a little different. The Mr. Lou and some other engineers remind me of a southern gentleman boot. Possibly, a sort of western vibe as well. Have a couple pairs of custom Boss boots (no lug sole) that have a totally different look and vibe. One is a biker/work style boot and the other is more of a gentleman's type boot. Just my take on the different options. You can scuff and get them all dirty.
36 inch boot is just comical lol thats built for bdsm