Kelvin Davis: Prisoner numbers, Oranga Tamariki, and whether New Zealanders are safer | Q+A 2023

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @food4thort
    @food4thort Год назад +28

    What a surprise! The prison population has been deliberately reduced and violent crime has correspondingly increased. He worries more about prisoners having beds than public safety. He isn't fit to be a Minister!

    • @claudiakayla7097
      @claudiakayla7097 Год назад

      yes I totally agree im a far north resident and these offenders are also double dipping in rental properties living with whatever whanau they can double dip off the rental properties they can use there family for and they tend to hide out in isolated communities like the far north I have seen a lot of unsavoury characters the police need to wake up and stop day dreaming its very concerning for all communities

  • @ducker09
    @ducker09 Год назад +2

    CO GOVERNANCE WILL DECIDE WHO GOES TO JAIL.

  • @imrananis6826
    @imrananis6826 Год назад +1

    Excellent homework by jack soo nice❤

  • @scottsquire1053
    @scottsquire1053 Год назад +10

    Labour answer to everything.........it was the last governments fault......no labour you are crooked in every way!!

    • @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj
      @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj Год назад +3

      Perhaps Kelvin can ask Grant Robertson for an increase in his budget for Corrections to buy more KFC and McDonalds.

    • @junk_rig_sailor1698
      @junk_rig_sailor1698 Год назад

      That is because is was the last governments fault. National always stuff up the country when they get into power, and Labour has to clean up those bunch of effwits mess.

  • @tommym6515
    @tommym6515 Год назад +20

    Kelvin, you can’t continually claim the separation of powers when the government is the one that makes the legislation for the courts. It’s not an equal footing. Your party with its majority rule have had the opportunity to create the laws which the courts decide whether the perpetrator has met your thresholds.

    • @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj
      @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj Год назад +5

      Kelvin is completely out of his depth.Thats why he is useless .He looked uncomfortable answering Tames questions.

  • @andreatodd3095
    @andreatodd3095 Год назад +12

    If a judge were to put themselves in the victims situation would they be happy with the sentence they dish out.???

    • @JohanThiart
      @JohanThiart Год назад +2

      Home detention where there is no safe home to return to is beyond stupid.

    • @andreatodd3095
      @andreatodd3095 Год назад +1

      @@JohanThiart yup, they know it but do nothing

  • @johndonwood4305
    @johndonwood4305 Год назад +2

    "The power of the lawyer... or government minister in this case, is in the uncertainty of the law"
    J. Bentham.

  • @lukeduke3001
    @lukeduke3001 Год назад +2

    Good questioning jack

  • @Chenglai888
    @Chenglai888 Год назад +17

    There is a need to build new prisons (now). There are no real consequences for offenders.

  • @roy7489
    @roy7489 Год назад +8

    Incompetence is the headline for this government, you can track KD results when he was Tourism minister and now this portfolio…

  • @raybreeze2841
    @raybreeze2841 Год назад +2

    Kevin did the labor party appointment you as the Maori prison population was about 60% noting them things are16 % of population the problem now VOILENT crime has increased I remember the time I was assaulted by a drunken Maori and he was never charged

  • @benkaa4915
    @benkaa4915 Год назад

    Good work Jack Tame. Kelvin Davis responded well in a difficult and vital situation.
    Ka Pai

  • @bernadettehoskins6557
    @bernadettehoskins6557 Год назад +1

    Typical of this Govt. 'NOT ME GUV!' Incompetence at its best. Roll on the election.

  • @bluemoon5662
    @bluemoon5662 Год назад +3

    But surely Judges have sentencing guidelines set by the Government, don't they?

  • @iansmith9706
    @iansmith9706 Год назад +4

    Get tough on crime kelvin , listen to the community, when they are locked up they can’t cause more damage to society,

  • @somchais2100
    @somchais2100 Год назад +4

    Poor ole Special K. Quick someone throw him a life jacket he's sinking fast.

  • @peteburgoyne9594
    @peteburgoyne9594 Год назад +3

    And the answer is “ it’s totally unacceptable “ this is what we hear from all labour ministers!
    We were told this department could only function if run by Māori!!

    • @libgapper9761
      @libgapper9761 Год назад +1

      Exactly and look at the results during labour term. They had a chance and they showed us all that no maori can't make society better if they run things

    • @diyguru9677
      @diyguru9677 Год назад +1

      @@libgapper9761 National selected a serious violent youth offender as their party candidate for Tauranga. The only difference, Uffindell is wealthy and white.

    • @andreatodd3095
      @andreatodd3095 Год назад +1

      Tried it .....doesn't work.....move on, lesson learned. Cuddling criminals to good behaviour might work for a two year old in some cases, but we do realise the crimes are adult men and women.

    • @libgapper9761
      @libgapper9761 Год назад

      ​@@diyguru9677and what does that have to do with the sudden explosion of crime throughout the country? Both governments have had some bad examples but it's there policies that effect how our society runs

    • @diyguru9677
      @diyguru9677 Год назад

      @@libgapper9761 I know it's hard to believe considering news reports but crime numbers are actually down. The point is the hypocrisy. If rich white boys commit criminal acts of violence on sleeping children there's absolutely no news or legal consequences. The National Party chose to select a violent offender as their candidate without publicly disclosing his horrific past.

  • @grahamclark5766
    @grahamclark5766 Год назад +18

    Politicians always blame someone else, Judges are governed by political rules set by Govt.
    Commit the crime, do the time, judges are far removed from the real world of victims.
    Excuses, not action unfortunately, great salaries and perks and shiny pants are our politicians.

    • @junk_rig_sailor1698
      @junk_rig_sailor1698 Год назад +1

      Yep. Let's raise your taxes to pay for all the new prisons.

  • @overover..
    @overover.. Год назад +3

    I think you are exactly what New Zealand needs right now Jack Tame. You ask the questions that need to be asked, then stand firm when the answer is evaded. And more importantly you are one of the few in the NZ media ecosystem that will ask the tough question even if it reflects poorly on on your preferred political party. Great work

  • @andreatodd3095
    @andreatodd3095 Год назад +9

    Kelvin Davis.....sigh you can't have it both ways, but it seems you are trying your best to justify the current situation. Mr Davis, you have run out of time to do anything about youth facilities, you never intended to fix it, otherwise you would have.....too little too late.

  • @diyguru9677
    @diyguru9677 Год назад +1

    Has Sam Uffindell said anything about this?

  • @iansmith9706
    @iansmith9706 Год назад +2

    Hey kelvin when you blame the previous government did you know the previous government was labour ?

  • @adriandocherty778
    @adriandocherty778 Год назад

    The stupidity of asking the politicians these questions??🤦🏽‍♀️
    Why aren’t you asking the judges and lawyers??🤷🏽

  • @tigertiger1699
    @tigertiger1699 Год назад +4

    He should know the figures

  • @grahamgottard
    @grahamgottard Год назад

    Kelvin Davis is such an accomplished politician, he avoids giving a clear answer to any question. Nothing is his fault, pushes the blame onto others. Worries more about criminals than victims. Time for a change?

  • @ShaneMaslin
    @ShaneMaslin Год назад +1

    Triple bunking like our Hospitals.

  • @blertles3
    @blertles3 Год назад +4

    He’s really trying to wash his and his parties hands…

  • @SuperHone12
    @SuperHone12 Год назад +2

    Let's get cracking, Kelvin! 🎯 #TimeForChange

  • @jasonpoihegatama1347
    @jasonpoihegatama1347 Год назад +4

    it's not only the recruitment and training of staff it is the monitoring and complaints process with no accountability when legislation has been breached form staff this means all staff!. There must be issue also with client time management and training available for clients. What were they all doing in one room it should be band to be in each other's rooms

  • @pushpasteward3336
    @pushpasteward3336 Год назад +2

    Q&A has to interview Judges

    • @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj
      @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj Год назад +1

      That would be very interesting!!!! INCLUDE KELVIN AT THE SAME TIME.

  • @JohanThiart
    @JohanThiart Год назад +2

    The judge got this wrong! Sentencing someone to home detention where there is no safe home to return to is beyond stupid. How did the judge get this so wrong??
    I guess we should blame John Key……

  • @JimmyDoggy-b1c
    @JimmyDoggy-b1c 5 месяцев назад

    Judges also make wrong decisions . That’s doesn’t mean u must follow . We all are humans make mistakes & correct from the mistakes

  • @andrewwade8464
    @andrewwade8464 Год назад +1

    “We are going to fix it”…….6 years later…..who is responsible again Kelvin? Say again? 6 years. Times up

  • @ShaneMaslin
    @ShaneMaslin Год назад +1

    OMG what a train smash.

  • @andreatodd3095
    @andreatodd3095 Год назад +1

    In the private sector there is requirement for productivity when money is spent, however in civil service the same standards to not apply.

  • @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj
    @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj Год назад +1

    Kelvin.Just go and find another job for all our sake.

  • @claudiakayla7097
    @claudiakayla7097 Год назад

    yeah so all the gansters are out in public and could be at risk as well as these offenders on home detention could be loose cannons!!! and living in rental properties and residing in isolated communities and hiding out where they should not be!!! far north nz resident

  • @RhettCopland
    @RhettCopland 10 месяцев назад

    Good riddance to bad rubbish, had to be one of the thickest labour mps of all time.

  • @ShaneMaslin
    @ShaneMaslin Год назад +1

    Levels of violence????🤣🤣🤣 That will do me.

  • @jasonpoihegatama1347
    @jasonpoihegatama1347 Год назад +1

    if there was an issue of privatizing away responsibilities! How about have community groups caring for children removing responsibilities away from oranga tamariki?. Doing this is a big stuff up this model was moved away from years ago due to the abuse that was going on in these community groups, And when it was move away from there was the view the children who came into needing the care will be protected by the highest from of protect there is available the LAW. However the law does not get followed now as there is no accountability for someone breaching the laws.

  • @iansmith9706
    @iansmith9706 Год назад +1

    Hey kelvin there are less Maori in prison due to your policies and the crime rate is increased

  • @jasonpoihegatama1347
    @jasonpoihegatama1347 Год назад +4

    The system is OFF. It needs to be reset. There are people who will get sent to Jail over crimes with no proof. Per say someones girl friend tells police they were abused by there partner. And there is no marks and no witness. And the Guy says no she is lying. He will still get arrested. put on bail take up court time putting presser on courts and in most case will go to jail. ( And there are people who will get home detention where there is proof of serious violent crime.) And it not a overnight fix

  • @perryanderson9103
    @perryanderson9103 Год назад +3

    Omg do you have to do an i q test before you become a politician apparently not lol

  • @raybreeze2841
    @raybreeze2841 Год назад +3

    Nz should build a large Maori prison to house them

  • @rossr100
    @rossr100 Год назад

    Fake it till you make it Kelvin.
    Meantime, blame National... C'mon.
    Back to the union Camry for you come October

  • @imrananis6826
    @imrananis6826 Год назад +1

    Please invite jacinda for interview because she is main culprit...

  • @SuperHone12
    @SuperHone12 Год назад +2

    Hats off to Jack for his top-tier interview skills, making this one a step above the Reti chat! Let's appreciate Kelvin Davis' measured approach here, he's aiming to reduce prison populations - good on ya, Kelvin.
    But it seems we're strapping electronic monitors onto the wrong folks, the unstable and violent ones. The victims also appear to be forgotten, left in limbo while the courts play catch-up. And in the waiting, people are either slipping deeper into crime or buckling under stress - no win there.
    Jack's spot on, the surge in violent crime and the clear mental health issues, as seen in the recent shooting, are alarming. More focus on mental health could be a game-changer.
    It's encouraging to see Kelvin discontent with the pace of change. But buddy, it's time to cut through the red tape and be the catalyst! And let's not forget about the pressing issue of gangs in jails, creating more crime behind bars. Kelvin, let's start de-patching, separating, and cracking down on them.
    And don't even get me started on Oranga Tamariki. It's high time for some spring cleaning, Kelvin, and we're not just talking about dust bunnies. 🧹 #PushForChange

  • @alanshangguan3025
    @alanshangguan3025 Год назад

    He has no clue

  • @junk_rig_sailor1698
    @junk_rig_sailor1698 Год назад +1

    The people that are responsible for crime are the people that do the crime. The government in power at the time needs to try to make fair and equitable policies instead of just looking after the rich business round table toffs that National and Act cater to.

  • @jasonpoihegatama1347
    @jasonpoihegatama1347 Год назад

    needs to be better staff protocols and staff management. training will always need to be updated or refreshed

  • @overover..
    @overover.. Год назад

    "Everything we have done in corrections has been aimed at targeting our maori"... I would say everything this govt has done full stop fits the same description

  • @Innerlight320
    @Innerlight320 Год назад

    Not every home detention candidate goes on to gun murder . Anyone can cause harm with weapons glad our gun laws are in place . Life doesn’t happen in hindsight

    • @kyoteybear9439
      @kyoteybear9439 Год назад +1

      You do realise that gun laws don't prevent gun crime, for the simple fact that criminals don't follow laws in the first place. The answer is harsher penalties. Example, who would stash weed in their body board entering Bali? No one, because the last one that did that got 9 years!

    • @Innerlight320
      @Innerlight320 Год назад

      @@kyoteybear9439 And how many years did the Bali bomber get

  • @tigertiger1699
    @tigertiger1699 Год назад +2

    Davis has been a really good politician… hardly hear from or about

    • @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj
      @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj Год назад

      What planet are you living on ? He's bloody useless.

    • @joecollins2108
      @joecollins2108 Год назад +1

      The next Tui add

    • @tigertiger1699
      @tigertiger1699 Год назад +1

      @@joecollins2108
      How about you opinion 🤗

    • @zaksol7022
      @zaksol7022 Год назад +1

      Get real he wont even answer the questions,dodging them like a real labour politician

  • @jasonpoihegatama1347
    @jasonpoihegatama1347 Год назад +3

    getting views over tiktok or social media and the need to go viral on social media seems to be just as addictive as drugs and more of a driver than the crime itself. This has been seen in most other places in the world.