I love taking Leena around from beginning to end. I wish Chrono Cross explored her relationship with Serge a bit more. The possibility of her developing feelings for an alternate universe version of the childhood friend she never had -- and an innate competitiveness and jealousy she'd subsequently feel against Home Universe's Leena -- would have been interesting topics to explore.
Learned some kool stuff here. Thanks! But sadly my final char choices were basically yours. Kid, Serge, Lynx, Glenn, Harle for the win. Didn't know Lena was a boss though!
@@awesomecommenter Leena, mostly. With the 6 dragons, you generally want a level 8 summon to obliterate 3 of the 6 dragon types, then rely on the red X Strike to deal with the blue dragon type. Someone like Kid, who is Red, is just redundant to X Strike.
@@Angelalex242 I would go for Fargo. He basically a better ver. of Kid with better Availability. By the time you got Kid back, you already used him so much for Pilfer ability already. When you are Lynx, Karsh and Fargo would be your friend. I mean if you want a subtitiue for Glenn when you are not recruited or you are Lynx? Karsh is one hell of a physical damage dealer.
@@deity4919 tell you the truth i rather have cross than trigger and i know i know what you like cross over trigger HERSEY but hear me out cross has the best music the best battle system charters you can get can make or break the game the elements system in the game can utterly destroy you opponents and help you and i like it cuz it loved the graphics and the story of cross better than trigger
Great video! My favorite character is Radius. I know he's not the best, but I really like mentor characters, and playing with mid-tiers is usually more fun for me.
Leena's strength in the game suggests she might have been intended to play a larger role in the story, but for whatever reason the devs chose not to pursue it. Perhaps due to money and time constraints.
@@Lennis01 Theres a fan theory that says that Leena is the daughter (or Grand-daughter) of chrono. Based on the color of hair and the fact that Guardia was destroyed by Porre forcing Chrono to (supousedly) flee the country. I repeat though, its a fan theory.
@@alfredobelloni3258 I would say it's much more than a fan theory. It makes complete sense. Crono's hair. Marle's eyes. Insanely strong magic. A birth year of 1004, making Crono and Marle around 20 when she's born. Guardia sacked. Miguel a god-tier swordsman who seems to know everything when you meet him. Una looking nothing like Leena. No trace of Marle at all, suggesting she didn't survive Guardia's sacking. (Dalton kills Marle with the Masamune, which causes the weapon to become cursed.) As far as I'm concerned, it's as good as canon since it fits together so well. Likely the only reason this wasn't written into the story was because they wanted EVERYTHING to revolve around Serge, and a storyarc about an exiled princess, even if she wasn't the main character, would have felt too trope. If so, it was a massive missed opportunity. People love the world of Chrono because of its rich ensemble of interesting characters (a bit too many in the case of Cross). Consider a situation where the only way to break the curse on the Masamune is for the right person to forgive the spirits who were forced to commit murder, and who better than the child of the person who died? Also consider that Leena would certainly take pity on child-spirits and would want to protect them from any further harm. What if LEENA was the character who ultimately ends up with the Masamune instead of Serge? Would this undermine Serge's story or complement it? It is shown at the beginning and end of Chrono Cross that Serge and Leena's relationship, if not exactly romantic, is kind of a big deal, so both characters should be people of some importance to the overall mythos. Leena's elevation in the story would also elevate the importance of Crono and Marle's love in Trigger. I could go on and on about this. (Hint: I take these ideas seriously enough that I might be able to influence some creative decisions if the Chrono series gets a proper remake or gets the movie treatment like several other game franchises have.)
@@alfredobelloni3258 You have no idea. ;) Maybe the world's dream will yet give us a miracle if we only believe. I think that's what Kato-san would say.
@@kaizoku8087 I mean there was very little character development other than the odd speech patterns they used. They felt underwhelming compared with the Chrono Trigger cast. That shouldn't have happened considering the devs could do so much more on the PS1. I think the game was probably rushed or didn't get the budget it deserved.
@@Lennis01 Speech patterns have nothing to do with character development unless if a situation causes them to change it (I.e.,if a character originally begins speaking irregularly/using slang then changed to proper that is ascension/development while the opposite is regression) and is usually used for comedic relief or advancement in plot. Compared? Or in tandem? Cross is another sequel to trigger since the original world,Radical Dreamers,is directly parallel to trigger’s events. Underwhelming? What was underwhelming about them? Everyone had their own purpose,their own story,some ambition even if they didn’t know it in the beginning. They went through their challenges along with Serge and company and relate back to each other and they all contributed in the end. Nothing is underwhelming about that. Rushed? Well,o don’t think a game with 40+ playable characters could be rushed. It’s budget was high from trigger so budgeting has nothing to do with it,just another way to tell a story,which is the whole premise to cross. It doesn’t follow traditional methods or themes which was its entire scope. That is why they decided for the recruitment of Glenn for not helping Kid when you are scared out of your mind from having to save a girl you don’t know well enough who pulls you into breaking into a mansion full of guards throwing stones at you while you hang on cliffs just to get into the god-forsaken mansion of terror!
Great video again! Personally like Chrono Cross a lot, but character-wise they could have really gone a bit more quality over quantity (it fits that as shown in the video, a lot of them are also useless in battle...).
Bruh did you just call guile goo-ee-low? Its pronounced guy-el like the street fighter character. Also Harle is pronounced har-lee as in harlequin, not har-ul.
Pip is one of my favorite character that I love to use often despite the broken bug that makes his stats completely garbage. But I’ve always played the game with an interest of characters over quality anyways so it never bothered me.
Miki has one of the best magic in the game. And only red caster. She is at least top tier. And she use gloves who is the best weapons for first playthrough cuz you got one spectre on tower. Just like marci,who is the best blue,there no debate about that,she is better than lenna.
I loved this video, though it was a little eye-opening that I probably wasn't playing this game super optimally when I played it for the first time a few years back. Pip, Poshul, Sprigg, Mojo... Not only were those characters I used in my playthrough, but they were some of my personal favorites to use in the game. Heck, Poshul was even in the team I beat the final boss with alongside Radius and Serge. I'm not sure why I was so drawn to such bad characters. Maybe I enjoy a challenge? Maybe I heard they were bad and wanted to prove people wrong? Maybe I just liked how weird some of them were? But I guess it doesn't really matter because this is certainly the kind of game you can still have a lot of fun playing with a sub-optimal team, and it's kind of a testament to how well designed it is that you're able to do so!
As a kid I never had the heart to leave kid for dead. I wanted Glenn so badly but I couldn’t do it lol. Now I am playing through the “remaster” and now I have no such reservations lol.
I love Riddel and Miki but mostly for their character designs. Although Riddel is a fantastic magic user so she was always my favorite and never left my party. OMG I forgot about Guile... def best boy!
There is a difference with Serge and Lynx. Lynx final tech hits all foes Serge's hits one. The game is harder in the first playthrough with New Game+ being too easy. That being said Guile not having a meaningful grid until new game plus puts him in mid tier or upper low tier for not being powerful when it counts. As far as Red Innates are concerned Macha is actually the best overall from a stat perspective or at least tied with Miki and Draggy overall. Sprigg should be top tier because getting powerful Dopples like Taurminator, Gurgoyle, and Wight Knight make Garai and Miguel the two hardest bosses easier. Meaning she is powerful when it counts also she starts with Lagoonate which is more powerful than Lynx with Silver Swallow. Spriggan is also the key character needed to perform the Cuscus element trap trick for level 5 and 6 elements like Carnivore, Black Hole, Thunda Storm etc immediately after being in Lynx form. Draggy gets his level 7 tech earlier than most making him awesome besides Harle making him great.
Dude, I didn't use Sprigg, but I used Forget-me-not pot while fighting WightKnight, but it didn't save him as doppleganger or monster gran slam. Can you help me how to use the pot correctly?
Personally I think they marketed this game wrong. It was advertised as a sequel to Chrono Trigger. I would have preferred going into it as a stand alone game, then have my mind blown towards the end when CT is finally referenced. Guess I can't argue though, I bought it the day it came out because of Chrono Trigger, but it wasn't what I expected and took years for me to finally appreciate it.
I always love to pick Glenn and Harlee on the party! it’s quite surprising that they’re not just good for their looks but also good for the battleground
Aww come on a least put poschal up to low teir, as she is made purely for the beginning parts of the game. This little doggy is great help before you get kid.
9:00 did you just call Guile "gwee-low?" its guile, like street fighter, hes mysterious and he has guile, hence his name. Otherwise you graded them exactly how i would have. I hold Fargo in alittle higher esteem..His grid isnt THAT bad, He can steal from enemies and his Invincible skill is prolly the hardest hitting in the game (if used against opposite elem of course) When Harle joins Linx, its never good idea to have 2 black elem characters, IMO Glen is much more useful then Harle. Shes also not a perm character so if you invest in her and grow to love her..she just leaves, meaning you will always have to find a sub for her when she leaves. My perfect team was always: Serge, Leena Glenn, otherwise great vid man!
i disagree completely on the " its never good idea to have 2 black elem characters," and this is why; 1st, Harle rocks, best char in the game, 2nd, having 2 black innate at the same time powers them up.. 2 black innates means the field will stay black... 3rd, black elements are among the best.. now, if you find the game a little boring due to less elemental variety, that makes sense..
Serge, Glenn, Leena. However! If you put the work in, Pip is like ChuChu over there in Xenogears. You can make Pip OP, and Pip can use multiple exclusive elements. Like, say, Blue and Black.
I'd put Zappa in the mid tier just for his blacksmith ability. You can access the blacksmith ship anywhere from the world and didn't have to go to towns continuously.
Solid list. You should really learn how to pronounce the names though. It’s not Harl that sounds like Carl. It’s Harley…. Like harlequin….. and Guile. Like Guy. Not gweeloh. But that aside. Solid list. One of my all time favorite games and can’t wait to replay it
i cry when i look at PS2, PS3, PS4 and even PS5 Is there any game that has done such a thing? Ever? Ok there's Genshin Impact but it's a gotcha game but hey i'd throw 60-100$ just to get this game remake.
I was young and needed the main characters in at all times. So back then it was always who would be 3rd to Serge/Kid/Lynx/Harle and when only one of them was available, Leena comes in with an additional 3rd wheeler. I played it a few times over and the 3rd wheel bounced between Norris, Riddel, Grobyc, Fargo and Razzly.
Awesome ranking! I honestly don't know why they decided to put Sneff in as a playable character, and then give him all around trash stats, when his character design, goofy as it is, should mean that he'd be at least a good mage character...Lord knows the yellow innate is in need of good magic users.
I always find it interesting how people pronounce some of the character names. I pronounce Serge like 'hair day' so "Sair Gay" Guile "Guy ole" and Harle as "Har lee"
Good lord going through a tier list (a good exercise, don't get me wrong) reminds me how fucking terrible the characters are in this game. Whoever at Square thought cramming 45 shitty characters into this game should have been fired
I love this game, but they really could've cut half of the roster...So many dumb characters with no bearing on the plot that honestly make this game embarrassing to play sometimes. lol
Locking the player out of the ability to recruit Glenn, locking him behind one of the dumbest decisions in the game is plain stupid. Most first time players aren't going to say "ya let's abandon Kid and not save her". I always feel weird picking that option, makes Serge look like an absolute tool. But I must pick it cause Glenn is such a cool character
I have to disagree on some things here. First of all, the game's level up stats follow a certain generic pattern, but differ with each new game you start. Sometimes the RNG can be very beneficial to some characters, and/or very detrimental. I've had Serge (protagonist) with a Magic Defense stat of 7 (yes, base stat), for the majority of the game once. Or Karsh with an amazing Magic stat, while he's supposed to have it much lower. 1) Ranking Janice on the same level as Luccia. I've had Janice in my party from join to end, and while it's true that her magic stat *can* be rather low, in my experience during my many playthroughs of this game, it's been pretty consistently high. Not as high as true mages (Riddel, etc), but certainly higher than Luccia, who has some of the most consistent low stats in the game. Based on stats and consistency alone, I'd take Janice over Luccia any day, though I like both of them as characters. 2) Greco in mid-tier. Physical attacks are important for sure, but overall you'll be using 6 out of 7 points to attack and build up your grid, and then using magic (for those common non-strategic moments) With his extremely low magic stat in general, he'll end up dealing less damage than a character with decent-to-high attack *and* magic. I'd put him in low tier, personally. If you want a physical attacker, characters like Grobyc, Leah and Zoah are far superior. Greco's advantage is that you get him early. 3) Steena in mid-tier, "hard to justify her usage". I've had her in my end game party a lot, and she's amazing in both physical and magical offense. While perhaps not the absolute goddess, she is a welcome addition, despite her low-ish HP. RNG can wreck her sometimes, but she's definitely not as bad as you make her out to be. I'd put her (lower) top tier, myself, as availability isn't enough to place her this low, IMHO. There's still a chunk of the game to go at this point, including some optional content. 4) Karsh having "amazing stats". This is a minor disagreement, in that I agree Karsh is generally amazing overall, though RNG can really mess with him. I've had playthroughs where Karsh had an incredibly low magic stat. Sometimes even lower than Zoah's. Though I've also had playthroughs where Karsh's magic stat was on par with the fairly high magic stat of Serge. Top tier for sure, but potentially not *as* great as you'd want him to be, from playthrough to playthrough. So I wouldn't say he's "never a bad choice for your party". Only when he has atrocious magic stat thanks to RNG is he a worse choice than others. Something to keep in mind if you plan on using him. 5) Guile having an "awesome grid". To clarify, Guile has only a few slots available at lower level tiers, but it fans out into a large number of slots at high tiers. This means that early game, he only has a few spells to cast/consumables to use, far fewer than pretty much anyone else. That said, he's still a generally powerful mage (sturdy, as well), and the lack of slots aren't much of an issue early game, either. WandaIn is a pretty devastating skill, too. But depending on how you prefer to play, the lack of lower level magic slots can be a detriment. While it's amazing to cast lower level spells at such a high magic tier (CurePlus+5 or something), sometimes it's more beneficial to cast it at its intended third tier slot, thus not draining your entire grid for that turn, while the restoration is generally enough with the magic stat he has. Building up 6 tiers with physical attacks, and then casting CurePlus at third tier slot, will keep 3 magic tier levels available, to which the next series of physical attacks add to (up to 9). It's more of a mechanics issue, and depends on whether or not you utilize your lower level slots mid/late game. I personally do, as I find healing, buffs and debuffs a lot more valuable than lower level damage spells during mid/late game. That said, Guile is not a bad character at all. 6) Harle's top god tier spot. Overall, yes, she belongs here, despite her limited availability. It's a pretty significant chunk of the game where you can utilize her, after all. However, RNG can occasionally wreck her, particularly her magic stat. When that happens, I wouldn't recommend using her, unless the other characters available in that arc of the game are equal or worse. It's very possible characters like Radius, Norris or Karsh will outclass her magically thanks to RNG. But when RNGesus is on your side, and gives her decent stats, there's no real reason to avoid using her. 7) Fargo's top tier. Sometimes he can be amazing, but more often than not, his magic in particular is nothing great, even considering RNG. His Pillage skill is amazing, if not essential, but that's because both Kid and Mel, the only other characters with a steal-type skill, are not available for a sizeable chunk of the game. Physically, he's okay. Magically, he's below average to average in general. He'd likely be lower on the list if Kid was available, or if another powerful character had a steal-type skill. Say that I want to use Karsh and Riddel, I'd have to give up one spot for Fargo in order to obtain certain stolen items that aren't available anywhere else, such as the "plates". That, to me, is limiting and personally, I don't enjoy that. Certain semi-mandatory characters I'm ok with. Fargo..eh, I wish I could bring someone else, but the benefits of Pillage are too good to pass up. For that reason, I'd put him mid tier. 8) NeoFio's s***/low tier. In general, yes, she's not amazing. Though there's two sections of the game where you might consider using her: The search for the Hydra, and the Dwarves at Water Dragon Isle. Her green innate plus her fairly decent physical damage can destroy these encounters. RNG will ensure she's not *always* that great for those sections, but I've had it happen multiple times. Other than that, might want to switch to a different character. Honestly, Razzly is probably a better green innate pick (alongside Glenn, if you choose the route that doesn't include Razzly) than NeoFio in any case, but I just wanted to put it out there, based on my own experiences. 9) Zappa's low tier. In combat, sure, he's a physical powerhouse, but with low magic. Similar to Greco, who isn't available for a while when you recruit Zappa. That said, he brings the extremely valuable ability to call a Blacksmith anywhere you can save your game. While you might not recruit him for your battles, this one ability is more than enough reason to recruit him, and definitely factors into his overal usefulness. I'd put him mid tier, if not higher. 10) Sprigg, IMO, is at least mid-tier instead of low, due to her shapeshifting ability that can make her much stronger. Default Sprigg is fairly awful in terms of stats and grid (4 slots only, including skill). My main use for Sprigg is letting her defeat strong monsters around the map to use in the Monster Arena aboard S.S. Zelbess. The available monsters are the same as Sprigg's shapeshifting list, and any monster she personally defeats (I do this in default form just to be sure) is added to that list. Getting those monsters on the list greatly benefits in recruiting Janice. And since you can do both during the second arc of the game, why not? 11) "Why is Sneff in the game?". Come on. You can't beat Snefffffff's ffffffantastic magic show~
I would actually place Doc in Mid tier based on his final tech. It literally heals everyone completely and boosts the party’s Attack and Magic. I usually mitigate his ok grid by making him support/debuff.
He has low defense and his attacks are sub par. His specials are his most valuable abilities. End game gearing fixes a lot of problems across all characters.
Why you gotta put my best pal Pip on the shit list lol his character design is what drew me to him. Was always on my team! Chrono Cross is one of my favorite old school RPGs. Wish someone would take the good features of this game and bring it to modern times.
Van is an amazing character and probably one of the best in the game. His physical attack that damages all enemies is incredibly powerful, especially when combined with the fact that buffs (like hawkeye) on 1 stamina have the effect as buffs on max stamina. He and Guile (for similar reasons) will absolutely demolish most of the game.
I've been powerleveling Guile since I got him. He's absolutely broken. If you steal Magnify elements from those Door enemies inside Viper Manor towards the start and give them to Kid, he basically 1 shots so much. Then later, just trap some earthquakes in Hydra Marsh, and by the time you get to Fort Dragonia MF and you're basically wiping entire battles with 1 element
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I love taking Leena around from beginning to end. I wish Chrono Cross explored her relationship with Serge a bit more. The possibility of her developing feelings for an alternate universe version of the childhood friend she never had -- and an innate competitiveness and jealousy she'd subsequently feel against Home Universe's Leena -- would have been interesting topics to explore.
She also uses Frying pan- mankind's most destructive weapon
Acho que isso não aconteceu porque são muitos personagens no jogo, não teria como desenvolver uma história mais complexa para eles
Yeah, I think that's one of the downsides of making her optional
Especially since she is Crono and Marle’s daughter.
@@Celanoj Lmao. Btw Kid looks more like them kek
Learned some kool stuff here. Thanks! But sadly my final char choices were basically yours. Kid, Serge, Lynx, Glenn, Harle for the win. Didn't know Lena was a boss though!
This whole time I was running serge, pip and starky thinking I was cool cuz I had devil pip. Man lol
This game is a masterpiece.
Glad to know Marcy is actually good. Always picked her back then. Love to slap enemies!
Marcy is amazing in terms of gameplay
Riddel is best girl. Love her character design and techs.
Serge, Glenn, & Kid.... especially fighting the last dragon
Actually, you need not white, not green, not red for the third party member
@@Angelalex242 who would you normally use?
@@awesomecommenter Leena, mostly. With the 6 dragons, you generally want a level 8 summon to obliterate 3 of the 6 dragon types, then rely on the red X Strike to deal with the blue dragon type. Someone like Kid, who is Red, is just redundant to X Strike.
By the same logic, Radius and Viper are a good combo when you're Lynx, because they have a combo attack that does White damage.
@@Angelalex242 I would go for Fargo. He basically a better ver. of Kid with better Availability. By the time you got Kid back, you already used him so much for Pilfer ability already. When you are Lynx, Karsh and Fargo would be your friend. I mean if you want a subtitiue for Glenn when you are not recruited or you are Lynx? Karsh is one hell of a physical damage dealer.
I absolutely loved chrono cross. It gets too much needless hate.
Most people love the game....there are some that hate it because of the RPG elements and its doesn't relate much to Chrono Trigger.
I completely agree
Wholeheartedly agree, highly underrated game.
@@xhy720 The game sold more than 1m+ units and its still underrated? You better need to check your dictionary what underrated mean is.
@@deity4919 tell you the truth i rather have cross than trigger
and i know i know what you like cross over trigger HERSEY
but hear me out
cross has the best music
the best battle system
charters you can get can make or break the game
the elements system in the game can utterly destroy you opponents
and help you
and i like it cuz it loved the graphics and the story of cross better than trigger
Great video! My favorite character is Radius. I know he's not the best, but I really like mentor characters, and playing with mid-tiers is usually more fun for me.
Leena placing so high makes me so happy. I always chose to bring her along and keep her active in my party in every playthrough.
Leena's strength in the game suggests she might have been intended to play a larger role in the story, but for whatever reason the devs chose not to pursue it. Perhaps due to money and time constraints.
@@Lennis01 Theres a fan theory that says that Leena is the daughter (or Grand-daughter) of chrono. Based on the color of hair and the fact that Guardia was destroyed by Porre forcing Chrono to (supousedly) flee the country.
I repeat though, its a fan theory.
@@alfredobelloni3258 I would say it's much more than a fan theory. It makes complete sense. Crono's hair. Marle's eyes. Insanely strong magic. A birth year of 1004, making Crono and Marle around 20 when she's born. Guardia sacked. Miguel a god-tier swordsman who seems to know everything when you meet him. Una looking nothing like Leena. No trace of Marle at all, suggesting she didn't survive Guardia's sacking. (Dalton kills Marle with the Masamune, which causes the weapon to become cursed.) As far as I'm concerned, it's as good as canon since it fits together so well. Likely the only reason this wasn't written into the story was because they wanted EVERYTHING to revolve around Serge, and a storyarc about an exiled princess, even if she wasn't the main character, would have felt too trope. If so, it was a massive missed opportunity. People love the world of Chrono because of its rich ensemble of interesting characters (a bit too many in the case of Cross). Consider a situation where the only way to break the curse on the Masamune is for the right person to forgive the spirits who were forced to commit murder, and who better than the child of the person who died? Also consider that Leena would certainly take pity on child-spirits and would want to protect them from any further harm. What if LEENA was the character who ultimately ends up with the Masamune instead of Serge? Would this undermine Serge's story or complement it? It is shown at the beginning and end of Chrono Cross that Serge and Leena's relationship, if not exactly romantic, is kind of a big deal, so both characters should be people of some importance to the overall mythos. Leena's elevation in the story would also elevate the importance of Crono and Marle's love in Trigger. I could go on and on about this. (Hint: I take these ideas seriously enough that I might be able to influence some creative decisions if the Chrono series gets a proper remake or gets the movie treatment like several other game franchises have.)
@@Lennis01 Wow you've certainly done your homework. *SlowClap
@@alfredobelloni3258 You have no idea. ;) Maybe the world's dream will yet give us a miracle if we only believe. I think that's what Kato-san would say.
Wow these characters look amazing. Each one is so unique. Irenes and Marcy are soo pretty.
yea the character design in this game is one of the best ever
The character design is first rate. Now if only they were written as well as they were designed.
@@Lennis01 They we’re written pretty well. What was the issue?
@@kaizoku8087 I mean there was very little character development other than the odd speech patterns they used. They felt underwhelming compared with the Chrono Trigger cast. That shouldn't have happened considering the devs could do so much more on the PS1. I think the game was probably rushed or didn't get the budget it deserved.
@@Lennis01 Speech patterns have nothing to do with character development unless if a situation causes them to change it (I.e.,if a character originally begins speaking irregularly/using slang then changed to proper that is ascension/development while the opposite is regression) and is usually used for comedic relief or advancement in plot.
Compared? Or in tandem? Cross is another sequel to trigger since the original world,Radical Dreamers,is directly parallel to trigger’s events.
Underwhelming? What was underwhelming about them? Everyone had their own purpose,their own story,some ambition even if they didn’t know it in the beginning. They went through their challenges along with Serge and company and relate back to each other and they all contributed in the end. Nothing is underwhelming about that.
Rushed? Well,o don’t think a game with 40+ playable characters could be rushed. It’s budget was high from trigger so budgeting has nothing to do with it,just another way to tell a story,which is the whole premise to cross. It doesn’t follow traditional methods or themes which was its entire scope. That is why they decided for the recruitment of Glenn for not helping Kid when you are scared out of your mind from having to save a girl you don’t know well enough who pulls you into breaking into a mansion full of guards throwing stones at you while you hang on cliffs just to get into the god-forsaken mansion of terror!
Makes sense Harle is the best. 7th dragon god after all... No other chars are dragon gods... Just sayin lol.
......Har-lee. Not Har-ul......😶
Razzly lovers where you at?? Best Fairy!
Im here hahaha
The artstyle in this game is so good. All the texture work, the smooth animations, it's really impressive that it is running on the ps1.
Great video again! Personally like Chrono Cross a lot, but character-wise they could have really gone a bit more quality over quantity (it fits that as shown in the video, a lot of them are also useless in battle...).
Trimming it down to 12 rather then 45 would've been a better idea
I think they were trying a Suikoden type thing
@@stoneocean0065 Serge, Leena, Kid, Harle, Fargo, Norris, Glenn, Radius, Viper, Riddel, Starky, Karsh, Sprigg, and possibly Guile. Everyone else should be relegated to supporting character status.
Bruh did you just call guile goo-ee-low? Its pronounced guy-el like the street fighter character. Also Harle is pronounced har-lee as in harlequin, not har-ul.
Pip is one of my favorite character that I love to use often despite the broken bug that makes his stats completely garbage. But I’ve always played the game with an interest of characters over quality anyways so it never bothered me.
They fixed the glitch in the remastered. ^=^
@@sexyshinyashots Yep, Pip is fantastic in the remaster.
Other than mispronouncing half the characters lol, good list 👍
Miki has one of the best magic in the game. And only red caster. She is at least top tier. And she use gloves who is the best weapons for first playthrough cuz you got one spectre on tower.
Just like marci,who is the best blue,there no debate about that,she is better than lenna.
Oh. The era when Suikoden influenced a whole console RPG generation.
And just like in Suikoden, I used not even a quarter of who was available.
Broke my heart when you pronounced Harle's name as 'Harl', instead of 'Harley', like Harley Quinn / Harlequin.
And Guile. That was another interesting pronunciation
but she's french so I pronounce it harle Har-La
@@vargas0897and “Ju-NEEC” instead of fucking “Janice”.
janice and leah are a common names...idk how you mispronounce them so poorly lmao
Glenn is on screw kid tier.
Seriously who got this guy on their first run, i had to restart my entire game when i learned i missed out on him lmao
That Guile pronunciation is trouble
I loved this video, though it was a little eye-opening that I probably wasn't playing this game super optimally when I played it for the first time a few years back. Pip, Poshul, Sprigg, Mojo... Not only were those characters I used in my playthrough, but they were some of my personal favorites to use in the game. Heck, Poshul was even in the team I beat the final boss with alongside Radius and Serge. I'm not sure why I was so drawn to such bad characters. Maybe I enjoy a challenge? Maybe I heard they were bad and wanted to prove people wrong? Maybe I just liked how weird some of them were? But I guess it doesn't really matter because this is certainly the kind of game you can still have a lot of fun playing with a sub-optimal team, and it's kind of a testament to how well designed it is that you're able to do so!
As a kid I never had the heart to leave kid for dead. I wanted Glenn so badly but I couldn’t do it lol. Now I am playing through the “remaster” and now I have no such reservations lol.
I Still can't do it 😢
Glenn. End of video.
I love Riddel and Miki but mostly for their character designs. Although Riddel is a fantastic magic user so she was always my favorite and never left my party. OMG I forgot about Guile... def best boy!
Harle is amazing
For me pip with black element, black hole is the best element damage.
Pip is op with black element.
There is a difference with Serge and Lynx. Lynx final tech hits all foes Serge's hits one. The game is harder in the first playthrough with New Game+ being too easy. That being said Guile not having a meaningful grid until new game plus puts him in mid tier or upper low tier for not being powerful when it counts. As far as Red Innates are concerned Macha is actually the best overall from a stat perspective or at least tied with Miki and Draggy overall. Sprigg should be top tier because getting powerful Dopples like Taurminator, Gurgoyle, and Wight Knight make Garai and Miguel the two hardest bosses easier. Meaning she is powerful when it counts also she starts with Lagoonate which is more powerful than Lynx with Silver Swallow. Spriggan is also the key character needed to perform the Cuscus element trap trick for level 5 and 6 elements like Carnivore, Black Hole, Thunda Storm etc immediately after being in Lynx form. Draggy gets his level 7 tech earlier than most making him awesome besides Harle making him great.
Dude, I didn't use Sprigg, but I used Forget-me-not pot while fighting WightKnight, but it didn't save him as doppleganger or monster gran slam. Can you help me how to use the pot correctly?
I usually use Riddel and Leena. Sometimes i change Leena for Glenn. But Riddel is the best! And i never swap her with any other characters.
Poshul is a girl
Ah yes, 'Guilo', everybody's favorite Chrono Cross character...
I'm sorry... did u say GWEELO?!
Don’t know what you’re talking about…
Personally I think they marketed this game wrong. It was advertised as a sequel to Chrono Trigger. I would have preferred going into it as a stand alone game, then have my mind blown towards the end when CT is finally referenced.
Guess I can't argue though, I bought it the day it came out because of Chrono Trigger, but it wasn't what I expected and took years for me to finally appreciate it.
Every song in this game is beautiful
Ikr, make you dive right into the game!
Leena and Janice were my picks to go into battle with Serge. Glad to see I'm at least half good at picking teams.
I always love to pick Glenn and Harlee on the party! it’s quite surprising that they’re not just good for their looks but also good for the battleground
I like to go glenn and guile myself makes me feel the most like the old chrono trigger party.
Always goes with Glenn and 2 Einlanzers. I honestly don't know why he didn't talk about Glenn though.
The answer will always be Turnip. Anyone who says otherwise is just categorically, aesthetically, and spiritually W R O N G
True. I have no credibility now.
@@locloudanerpg its good you acknowledge this. The only path now is growth.
@@CuShorts I’m lost. I put Frog in the low tier on my Chrono trigger list. There’s no saving me now…
Guilo?
Aww come on a least put poschal up to low teir, as she is made purely for the beginning parts of the game. This little doggy is great help before you get kid.
9:00 did you just call Guile "gwee-low?" its guile, like street fighter, hes mysterious and he has guile, hence his name. Otherwise you graded them exactly how i would have. I hold Fargo in alittle higher esteem..His grid isnt THAT bad, He can steal from enemies and his Invincible skill is prolly the hardest hitting in the game (if used against opposite elem of course) When Harle joins Linx, its never good idea to have 2 black elem characters, IMO Glen is much more useful then Harle. Shes also not a perm character so if you invest in her and grow to love her..she just leaves, meaning you will always have to find a sub for her when she leaves. My perfect team was always:
Serge, Leena Glenn, otherwise great vid man!
I most definitely said Guilo. I have no excuses. Glad I hit the mark on this one.
@@locloudanerpg lol
Leena is indispensable in big fights.
How do you build Fargo?
i disagree completely on the " its never good idea to have 2 black elem characters," and this is why; 1st, Harle rocks, best char in the game, 2nd, having 2 black innate at the same time powers them up.. 2 black innates means the field will stay black... 3rd, black elements are among the best.. now, if you find the game a little boring due to less elemental variety, that makes sense..
Serge, Glenn, Leena. However! If you put the work in, Pip is like ChuChu over there in Xenogears. You can make Pip OP, and Pip can use multiple exclusive elements. Like, say, Blue and Black.
Did you pronounce "Guile" as "Gwee- Lo"?
Buckle up my friend. Mispronunciation might as well be my gamer tag.
@@locloudanerpg So the American dude with the flat-top in street fighter. You called him Gwee-Lo as well?
😂
I'd put Zappa in the mid tier just for his blacksmith ability. You can access the blacksmith ship anywhere from the world and didn't have to go to towns continuously.
Miki was underrated as a red. Didn’t really saw her name being mentioned a whole lot or looked as a competent characters.
Sprigg in low tier? Dopplegang straight up breaks the game.
GWEELO!?
WOOF. AFIAK it's pronounced like Aisle with a G in the front.
Other goofy pronunciations aside, fantastic breakdowns!
Grobic and Norris cuz I was a kid that played Chrono cross ungga bungga style
Final Party (From back in the 90s)
*Serge
*Leah
*Karsh
Musta loved them axes.
hahaha) it's my final party too)
hahah) it's my final party too)
@@FREAKMOONCHANNEL no kidding? Small planet, eh
@@bobgoblin7733 yes)
I dont care how bad he is Orcha for life!
Serge, Glenn and Leena was my perfect party. Sorry Kid, first I don't travel with you then I don't save you 😅 I just love those two too much
9:00 Guy-ul. Gai-ul. Like the character from Street Fighter 2.
Solid list. You should really learn how to pronounce the names though. It’s not Harl that sounds like Carl. It’s Harley…. Like harlequin….. and Guile. Like Guy. Not gweeloh. But that aside. Solid list. One of my all time favorite games and can’t wait to replay it
Your butchery of the characters names is God tier
i cry when i look at PS2, PS3, PS4 and even PS5 Is there any game that has done such a thing? Ever?
Ok there's Genshin Impact but it's a gotcha game but hey i'd throw 60-100$ just to get this game remake.
I was young and needed the main characters in at all times. So back then it was always who would be 3rd to Serge/Kid/Lynx/Harle and when only one of them was available, Leena comes in with an additional 3rd wheeler.
I played it a few times over and the 3rd wheel bounced between Norris, Riddel, Grobyc, Fargo and Razzly.
List is good...but Harle being number 1 while only being in 1/3rd of the game makes 0 sense.
Awesome ranking! I honestly don't know why they decided to put Sneff in as a playable character, and then give him all around trash stats, when his character design, goofy as it is, should mean that he'd be at least a good mage character...Lord knows the yellow innate is in need of good magic users.
I always find it interesting how people pronounce some of the character names. I pronounce Serge like 'hair day' so "Sair Gay" Guile "Guy ole" and Harle as "Har lee"
I always pronounce Serge as Serj... Guile is gayl (Street Fighter) and Harle as Har lee as well.
@@brotherdeimos Same except for Harle. I pronounced it with silent e.
I loved this game. Your missing Van's father Gogh. Skinny one not the fat version
Good lord going through a tier list (a good exercise, don't get me wrong) reminds me how fucking terrible the characters are in this game. Whoever at Square thought cramming 45 shitty characters into this game should have been fired
Spot on list.
I personally would put orlha/kid/fargo on god tier but that's just my own bias. lol
I love this game, but they really could've cut half of the roster...So many dumb characters with no bearing on the plot that honestly make this game embarrassing to play sometimes. lol
Some of your bad pronunciations really made me cringe, but your list is really solid
I play without elements (only techs) the best party members are Glenn, Serge and Viper.
Calling this game unpolished compared to trigger is ridiculous
The game has so many great characters.. I kinda wish it was a four character system instead of three 😅
Meeee too.
Probably too much to ask from the PS1. As it was, Chrono Cross pushed the system to its absolute limit.
I'm not surprised most of my favorites are in the mid to low tiers.
Sprig come with Lagoonate and that thing is stronger than anyone in the game for about 85% of it. It never misses and has decent stamina recovery.
I always used Serge, Kid, and Orhla cuz I liked their skills and design! I had no idea I had a busted team!
I still type "cha" at the end of things because I played this as a kid. Whatcha doing? Gotcha. Catcha later
sprig is OP when doppleganginhlg 1 of those sea crabs
My Favorite Party member is Serge, Nikki, and Grobyc
Steena stan!!!!
Serge, Glenn, whatever you need at the moment
i always change party member based on their stat and element i'll go for the high str mag and res
Optimal Party: Glenn, Guile and Serge.
1 Serge, Kid e Guile
2 Serge, Norris e Glenn
3 Serge, Kid e Harle
They all say the same thing, why have so many characters if they all have the same lines
I love Leena she’s my fave character
Lol. I dumped Harle from the party after I got Zappa.
Unh... where's Kid lol
I didn't watch yet, but it's Glenn right?
I thought of Pip as a minigame in a very fun and relaxing game
Locking the player out of the ability to recruit Glenn, locking him behind one of the dumbest decisions in the game is plain stupid. Most first time players aren't going to say "ya let's abandon Kid and not save her". I always feel weird picking that option, makes Serge look like an absolute tool. But I must pick it cause Glenn is such a cool character
For me is Razzly, with Serge and Kid
You messed up big on some of their names. Its triggering
please please square remaster this game!!!!!
Leah is better than Zoah in every metric that counts.
and i still remember how i got defeated again and again by cryosphinx due to wrong answer.
I have to disagree on some things here.
First of all, the game's level up stats follow a certain generic pattern, but differ with each new game you start. Sometimes the RNG can be very beneficial to some characters, and/or very detrimental. I've had Serge (protagonist) with a Magic Defense stat of 7 (yes, base stat), for the majority of the game once. Or Karsh with an amazing Magic stat, while he's supposed to have it much lower.
1) Ranking Janice on the same level as Luccia. I've had Janice in my party from join to end, and while it's true that her magic stat *can* be rather low, in my experience during my many playthroughs of this game, it's been pretty consistently high. Not as high as true mages (Riddel, etc), but certainly higher than Luccia, who has some of the most consistent low stats in the game. Based on stats and consistency alone, I'd take Janice over Luccia any day, though I like both of them as characters.
2) Greco in mid-tier. Physical attacks are important for sure, but overall you'll be using 6 out of 7 points to attack and build up your grid, and then using magic (for those common non-strategic moments) With his extremely low magic stat in general, he'll end up dealing less damage than a character with decent-to-high attack *and* magic. I'd put him in low tier, personally. If you want a physical attacker, characters like Grobyc, Leah and Zoah are far superior. Greco's advantage is that you get him early.
3) Steena in mid-tier, "hard to justify her usage". I've had her in my end game party a lot, and she's amazing in both physical and magical offense. While perhaps not the absolute goddess, she is a welcome addition, despite her low-ish HP. RNG can wreck her sometimes, but she's definitely not as bad as you make her out to be. I'd put her (lower) top tier, myself, as availability isn't enough to place her this low, IMHO. There's still a chunk of the game to go at this point, including some optional content.
4) Karsh having "amazing stats". This is a minor disagreement, in that I agree Karsh is generally amazing overall, though RNG can really mess with him. I've had playthroughs where Karsh had an incredibly low magic stat. Sometimes even lower than Zoah's. Though I've also had playthroughs where Karsh's magic stat was on par with the fairly high magic stat of Serge. Top tier for sure, but potentially not *as* great as you'd want him to be, from playthrough to playthrough. So I wouldn't say he's "never a bad choice for your party". Only when he has atrocious magic stat thanks to RNG is he a worse choice than others. Something to keep in mind if you plan on using him.
5) Guile having an "awesome grid". To clarify, Guile has only a few slots available at lower level tiers, but it fans out into a large number of slots at high tiers. This means that early game, he only has a few spells to cast/consumables to use, far fewer than pretty much anyone else. That said, he's still a generally powerful mage (sturdy, as well), and the lack of slots aren't much of an issue early game, either. WandaIn is a pretty devastating skill, too. But depending on how you prefer to play, the lack of lower level magic slots can be a detriment. While it's amazing to cast lower level spells at such a high magic tier (CurePlus+5 or something), sometimes it's more beneficial to cast it at its intended third tier slot, thus not draining your entire grid for that turn, while the restoration is generally enough with the magic stat he has. Building up 6 tiers with physical attacks, and then casting CurePlus at third tier slot, will keep 3 magic tier levels available, to which the next series of physical attacks add to (up to 9). It's more of a mechanics issue, and depends on whether or not you utilize your lower level slots mid/late game. I personally do, as I find healing, buffs and debuffs a lot more valuable than lower level damage spells during mid/late game. That said, Guile is not a bad character at all.
6) Harle's top god tier spot. Overall, yes, she belongs here, despite her limited availability. It's a pretty significant chunk of the game where you can utilize her, after all. However, RNG can occasionally wreck her, particularly her magic stat. When that happens, I wouldn't recommend using her, unless the other characters available in that arc of the game are equal or worse. It's very possible characters like Radius, Norris or Karsh will outclass her magically thanks to RNG. But when RNGesus is on your side, and gives her decent stats, there's no real reason to avoid using her.
7) Fargo's top tier. Sometimes he can be amazing, but more often than not, his magic in particular is nothing great, even considering RNG. His Pillage skill is amazing, if not essential, but that's because both Kid and Mel, the only other characters with a steal-type skill, are not available for a sizeable chunk of the game. Physically, he's okay. Magically, he's below average to average in general. He'd likely be lower on the list if Kid was available, or if another powerful character had a steal-type skill. Say that I want to use Karsh and Riddel, I'd have to give up one spot for Fargo in order to obtain certain stolen items that aren't available anywhere else, such as the "plates". That, to me, is limiting and personally, I don't enjoy that. Certain semi-mandatory characters I'm ok with. Fargo..eh, I wish I could bring someone else, but the benefits of Pillage are too good to pass up. For that reason, I'd put him mid tier.
8) NeoFio's s***/low tier. In general, yes, she's not amazing. Though there's two sections of the game where you might consider using her: The search for the Hydra, and the Dwarves at Water Dragon Isle. Her green innate plus her fairly decent physical damage can destroy these encounters. RNG will ensure she's not *always* that great for those sections, but I've had it happen multiple times. Other than that, might want to switch to a different character. Honestly, Razzly is probably a better green innate pick (alongside Glenn, if you choose the route that doesn't include Razzly) than NeoFio in any case, but I just wanted to put it out there, based on my own experiences.
9) Zappa's low tier. In combat, sure, he's a physical powerhouse, but with low magic. Similar to Greco, who isn't available for a while when you recruit Zappa. That said, he brings the extremely valuable ability to call a Blacksmith anywhere you can save your game. While you might not recruit him for your battles, this one ability is more than enough reason to recruit him, and definitely factors into his overal usefulness. I'd put him mid tier, if not higher.
10) Sprigg, IMO, is at least mid-tier instead of low, due to her shapeshifting ability that can make her much stronger. Default Sprigg is fairly awful in terms of stats and grid (4 slots only, including skill). My main use for Sprigg is letting her defeat strong monsters around the map to use in the Monster Arena aboard S.S. Zelbess. The available monsters are the same as Sprigg's shapeshifting list, and any monster she personally defeats (I do this in default form just to be sure) is added to that list. Getting those monsters on the list greatly benefits in recruiting Janice. And since you can do both during the second arc of the game, why not?
11) "Why is Sneff in the game?". Come on. You can't beat Snefffffff's ffffffantastic magic show~
I love this. What a great comment. Combine my list with your fixes and I think we’ve done our work here haha.
Oh crap I didn't tell Leena I remember her promise in my current playthrough, so now I can't get Maiden faith FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
I would actually place Doc in Mid tier based on his final tech. It literally heals everyone completely and boosts the party’s Attack and Magic.
I usually mitigate his ok grid by making him support/debuff.
He has low defense and his attacks are sub par. His specials are his most valuable abilities. End game gearing fixes a lot of problems across all characters.
Why you gotta put my best pal Pip on the shit list lol his character design is what drew me to him. Was always on my team! Chrono Cross is one of my favorite old school RPGs. Wish someone would take the good features of this game and bring it to modern times.
My favorite companion was glenn and riddel. But I switched glenn or riddel with fargo whenever theres an opponent i'd want to pillage.
Why not Kid
8:20 his accuracy is garbage though..
Van is an amazing character and probably one of the best in the game. His physical attack that damages all enemies is incredibly powerful, especially when combined with the fact that buffs (like hawkeye) on 1 stamina have the effect as buffs on max stamina. He and Guile (for similar reasons) will absolutely demolish most of the game.
I've been powerleveling Guile since I got him. He's absolutely broken. If you steal Magnify elements from those Door enemies inside Viper Manor towards the start and give them to Kid, he basically 1 shots so much.
Then later, just trap some earthquakes in Hydra Marsh, and by the time you get to Fort Dragonia MF and you're basically wiping entire battles with 1 element
Vans dogshit.
MAX HP: 770 (5.3% below average)
MAX STR: 75 (10.1% below average)
MAX RES: 70 (7.4% below average)
MAX MAG: 48 (0.3% above average)
MAX M.RES: 39 (3.5% below average)